If you rally forts with Lohar then use Richard 2ndry and sleep till you kill the fort and play like everyone who is dub enought to bring charles rchard to field and get a lot more severly wounded troops.
Aethelflaed with Mina secondary is oretty good too. If you have aethelflaeds 4th skill unlocked, use a mixed army but have 70% of the army as Calvary then split the last 30%, 15% infantry and 15% archers. I did a solid 70k damage with aethelflaeds and Mina skill together with a 1 mil rally size. Definitely don’t sleep in this If your CC isn’t maxed, my Mina, CC, and aethelflaed aren’t even maxed.
Cav only > mixed army , i have tested and the difference in damage and injuries is huge (20-30% less injured ) with same number units . Not sure why stuff like this keeps upvoted look at cao cao raw stats you're losing all that on infantry or archers
Sent email to alliance 2 days ago about this topic so it's kind of funny that we were on same page. Just started kvk so this is and always will be a relevant topic. I guess the only critique I would give is that you should have emphasized why damage to barbarians is probably the most important stat when choosing commanders. If you didn't have minamoto skill maxed but had boudica or aethelfled damage to barbarian skill maxed then they might be better pick. Good video
One of my friends told me this Use a peacekeeping commander as primary and a commander who does a lot of damage secondary my personal fav is Boudica I have barb equipment on her expertises and athel secondary they destroy everything and lohar is better for barbs not forts I use lohar Alex for tank since I don't have Richard 😔
This video gave me more questions regarding pairings that I hoped you would have covered before ending the video... If you are using Cao Cao and Boudica, which one is better as primary? Same goes for the pairing of Cao Cao and Aethelflaed? Or the pairing of Aethelflaed and Boudica?
learn to think for yourself. Youre over depending on guides and following like a zombie. Which talent is better in battling? Support or mobility?? Skill or mobility?? I think the answer is clear
For aeth and boudica, I would go for aeth as primary because for the skill tree from boudica, its not impactful enough as aeth and boudica are not the optimal skill dealer
Aeth and boudica are debuffers so you wanna increase the uptime of these debuffs. That is by rage regeneration which the support tree is doing a better job than the skill tree
Minam +Cao cao/ Genghis khan + cao cao Aethe + cao cao aethe at 40-50 is stronger than maxed boudica at 60 Boudica +cao cao Only cav for fewest injuries , nothing else like seriously , just don't rally if you're gonna use Lohar or Belisarius
Always love these videos even if you been playing for months. This is very good information. I don't have Cao cao maxed but I run mina / boudica build and works really well . . .I never use lohar but he's ok for early game. Again thanks for the video!
Hey, you forgot markswoman! LOL. I'm 35M in a powerful Imperium Kingdom alliance so just a little guy there. But I'm the go-to guy for forts to an extent. Of course, I use Mina and CC usually. But I ran one or two just for fun with my markswoman and she kicked butt.
lolololo, hahaha. there is always that guy who like to do stupid things. i also use markswoman with full build peacekeeping and the rest archer talent. and she really is frinkin good. but im using him only on my farm account. 22M power. if i use her at my main account, im gonna be a laughing stock.. hahaha.
Awesome video Chisgule, I am still confused which commander should I use for Primary pelagius? or Scipio? for PvP and which talent should I focus? I am F2P, keep making more videos, thank you. ❤
Super helpful video with great flow from ideal right down to what's the best Macgyver you could do early game. Could you please help the rally commanders and leadership within the community, of a follow up clip about rally edict. Stay awesome 🍻
I might be head cannoning this way too much, but could you use an aethel/expertised Joan and a mixed rally for Barb forts? The amount of rage that would be generated and with the +30% buffs to everyone would have aethel going nuts, right?! Or am I lost in the sauce
Hi Chisgule, can you advise for 70 days old kd, what should I use for peacekeeping? As you said, I also use minamoto as both my peacekeeping and PVP commander, but I don't want to waste gems using talent reset every 2 weeks, neither do I want to spend 40-50 AP everytime i do barbs. But I also find that Boudica+minamoto (peacekeeping build) gives more injuries than Minamoto+caocao (cav build). Furthermore, both my caocao and aethelflaed are both not max skilled yet since the kd is only 70 days old. So what should i do?
Figure out how many marches you want for peacekeeping and go from there. I leave boud, beli, lohar as peacekeeping. If you need more you could use cc and aethel.
Fort and Fortress are the same thing? Or not, because i didn't know if i need to use this commanders or if i need a open field barbarian commander like Belisaurus of the primary with Bairbars of the secondary (Sorry i'm trying to improve my english jaja)
I have 1 question... does lvl 4 forts give more exp doing duo like with your main and farm account or is it better to do lvl 5 forts with your ally please reply 🙏
I have a question about talent tree Skill. its about how latent power and naked rage, 1) does latent power increase skill Dmg of all active skill( like in Boudica 1st skill), or only work in skill like Pelagius 1st skill type? 2) is naked raged worth it? is killer instinct better than latent power and naked rage, i have been trying to build Boudica as my fort rally leader, 2:20 your Minamoto build make me confused
Interesting idea. Not sure if I have enough for a whole video. I use 5 peacekeepers as prime and aoe in some of the secondaries to pull Agro on bonus barbs.
1:17 Does Mina/Cao Cao have increased damage to Barbarian Forts too? The skill description says "barbarians" and I heard forts are considered "neutral units".
What about aethelfleda with Ramses and Aethe mor support spec for the slow speed buff at the end that trigger her 20% dmg instead of the peacekeeper or leadership skill
Video from long ago but just wondering if windset (marsh speed) or % barbarians damage is the most optimised ? lol, ikik this is mabe too far for barbarians forts..
urmm dude. only the lead commander is active. for others who is participating the rally , your commandr skill is muted. but, you can always use a commander that emphasizes holding bigger troops. such as scipio or any other commander that can hold bigger troops. also, try using a peace keeper as your primary. because participate a rally cost 150 but you will down to 140 if you use a peacekeeper.
Depends on your rally size and commanders and Alliance tech. It's difficult for lower players to rally larger forts. Most of what is available in zone 4/5 is possible. Also you can have people meet you at the fort to reinforce
your move speed talent kinda meh i have other build with only 1% less movement speed but while still able to maintain same speed while being hit and without move speed debuff
@@kittyhipster3305 Another mispronounced general is Sun Zi. Yet to hear a western youtuber pronounced it correctly. :) [Even Shinchi42 compromised and mispronounced to cater to the fans]
If you rally forts with Lohar then use Richard 2ndry and sleep till you kill the fort and play like everyone who is dub enought to bring charles rchard to field and get a lot more severly wounded troops.
Can we get a updated guide with gear/new commanders! Keep up the amazing work
Generic content not related to current in-game events I would have to say
Congratulations on your new baby Chisgule !!
Good sleuthing 😉
Chisgule Gaming congratulations man! Happy Thanksgiving 😊 keep up the amazing content!
Brent what a nutt hugger🤤
Aethelflaed with Mina secondary is oretty good too. If you have aethelflaeds 4th skill unlocked, use a mixed army but have 70% of the army as Calvary then split the last 30%, 15% infantry and 15% archers. I did a solid 70k damage with aethelflaeds and Mina skill together with a 1 mil rally size. Definitely don’t sleep in this If your CC isn’t maxed, my Mina, CC, and aethelflaed aren’t even maxed.
my mina is max and aethelflaed is max skill but lvl 50 but cheers for the info:)
Cav only > mixed army , i have tested and the difference in damage and injuries is huge (20-30% less injured ) with same number units .
Not sure why stuff like this keeps upvoted look at cao cao raw stats you're losing all that on infantry or archers
@@theroofwithoutahome2352 Hi, if I use cav only to rally fort, should i keep talent tree like chisgule suggest? Ty
Chisgule, when talking about rallying, you gotta mention Commander slot, Charge Captain! (From profile avatar pic->Commander)
Sent email to alliance 2 days ago about this topic so it's kind of funny that we were on same page. Just started kvk so this is and always will be a relevant topic. I guess the only critique I would give is that you should have emphasized why damage to barbarians is probably the most important stat when choosing commanders. If you didn't have minamoto skill maxed but had boudica or aethelfled damage to barbarian skill maxed then they might be better pick. Good video
Ty for the f2p info and beginner characters that some of us have
what about secondary commanders? can you make this video agian :D 2020 version ?
One of my friends told me this Use a peacekeeping commander as primary and a commander who does a lot of damage secondary my personal fav is Boudica I have barb equipment on her expertises and athel secondary they destroy everything and lohar is better for barbs not forts I use lohar Alex for tank since I don't have Richard 😔
2:04 In RoK money is time, my friend ;P
Who's the best secondary for Aethelflaed if I have expertized Boudica, Sun Tzu, Joan of Arc, Lohar and 5-3-4-1 Minamoto and 5-4-1-1 YSG ? thanks
This video gave me more questions regarding pairings that I hoped you would have covered before ending the video...
If you are using Cao Cao and Boudica, which one is better as primary?
Same goes for the pairing of Cao Cao and Aethelflaed?
Or the pairing of Aethelflaed and Boudica?
learn to think for yourself. Youre over depending on guides and following like a zombie. Which talent is better in battling? Support or mobility?? Skill or mobility?? I think the answer is clear
For aeth and boudica, I would go for aeth as primary because for the skill tree from boudica, its not impactful enough as aeth and boudica are not the optimal skill dealer
Aeth and boudica are debuffers so you wanna increase the uptime of these debuffs. That is by rage regeneration which the support tree is doing a better job than the skill tree
Boudica prime cal secondary. Aethelflaed prime cao second. Aethel prime Boudica second.
@@Chisgule Thanks a lot! Much appreciated.
congratulations chisgule! love your content and I wish you and your family the best!
Thanks for the video now I am going to use your builds for my commanders
Minam +Cao cao/ Genghis khan + cao cao
Aethe + cao cao aethe at 40-50 is stronger than maxed boudica at 60
Boudica +cao cao
Only cav for fewest injuries , nothing else like seriously , just don't rally if you're gonna use Lohar or Belisarius
Wow thanks, now I know that a lvl 50 Æthelflæd & Cao Cao is stronger than a lvl 60 Boudica & Cao Cao.
I want to find a woman that is as thick as Boudicca
SIMP @Lone Ranger
I want to find a hot man as Richard 😂
Always love these videos even if you been playing for months. This is very good information. I don't have Cao cao maxed but I run mina / boudica build and works really well . . .I never use lohar but he's ok for early game. Again thanks for the video!
Dracarys Devil what Kingdom are you in?
@@mightoe19 I am in 1315. . Kvk ends in 4 days. My in game name is: . ПлохоDevil
Aetheflead/Boudica works good to forts?
Hey, you forgot markswoman! LOL. I'm 35M in a powerful Imperium Kingdom alliance so just a little guy there. But I'm the go-to guy for forts to an extent. Of course, I use Mina and CC usually. But I ran one or two just for fun with my markswoman and she kicked butt.
This has a lot to do with tech. If your alliance has good tech and so do you, pretty much any commander pair will work.
@@DevilsKnights No doubt. My tech is all nines and my alliance tech is complete.
lolololo, hahaha. there is always that guy who like to do stupid things. i also use markswoman with full build peacekeeping and the rest archer talent. and she really is frinkin good. but im using him only on my farm account. 22M power. if i use her at my main account, im gonna be a laughing stock.. hahaha.
Thx for talent tree aetheflead..
Is Minamoto still best if you can't max out his skills? Where can you be on skills for him to still be the best?
Nice video. Love all these tips and tricks
Awesome video Chisgule, I am still confused which commander should I use for Primary pelagius? or Scipio? for PvP and which talent should I focus? I am F2P, keep making more videos, thank you. ❤
Dude , I love your intros!!!
what are the best talent trees for Cao Cao and belisarius for rallying forts as primaries or secondaries?
Super helpful video with great flow from ideal right down to what's the best Macgyver you could do early game.
Could you please help the rally commanders and leadership within the community, of a follow up clip about rally edict.
Stay awesome 🍻
is this still the best boudica build for forts to this day?
If you want to counter charles richard just use Aethlflead YSG and you have a best rally pair for countering Charles richard it is good against.
Great channel, great contents, thanks for the tips 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
So if I dont have minamoto my best pick is primary Cao Cao and secondary aethelfled ? Troops: Cav only ?
if i use aethelfled for rallying fort, who is the good pairing for her?
I might be head cannoning this way too much, but could you use an aethel/expertised Joan and a mixed rally for Barb forts? The amount of rage that would be generated and with the +30% buffs to everyone would have aethel going nuts, right?! Or am I lost in the sauce
Chisgules exp of rallying numerous lvl 10 forts in kvk must have come in handy for data collection for creating this video 😂😜
Great game, great info....tys goods tips.
Whaat is going on governor 😂😂
Hello, are Aethelflaed and YSG is good for barbarian forts?
Very helpful
Remake with primary and secondary commander recommendations please
Hi Chisgule, can you advise for 70 days old kd, what should I use for peacekeeping? As you said, I also use minamoto as both my peacekeeping and PVP commander, but I don't want to waste gems using talent reset every 2 weeks, neither do I want to spend 40-50 AP everytime i do barbs. But I also find that Boudica+minamoto (peacekeeping build) gives more injuries than Minamoto+caocao (cav build). Furthermore, both my caocao and aethelflaed are both not max skilled yet since the kd is only 70 days old. So what should i do?
Figure out how many marches you want for peacekeeping and go from there. I leave boud, beli, lohar as peacekeeping. If you need more you could use cc and aethel.
I have Aethel for primary commander, do I need to use Beli or Boudica for secondary?
what if i can use sun tzu and bjorn ironside they good when rally forts ?
is Minamoto as a primary and belisarius as secondary good for barbarians and forts?
Fort and Fortress are the same thing? Or not, because i didn't know if i need to use this commanders or if i need a open field barbarian commander like Belisaurus of the primary with Bairbars of the secondary (Sorry i'm trying to improve my english jaja)
I have 1 question... does lvl 4 forts give more exp doing duo like with your main and farm account or is it better to do lvl 5 forts with your ally please reply 🙏
I have a question about talent tree Skill.
its about how latent power and naked rage,
1) does latent power increase skill Dmg of all active skill( like in Boudica 1st skill), or only work in skill like Pelagius 1st skill type?
2) is naked raged worth it?
is killer instinct better than latent power and naked rage, i have been trying to build Boudica as my fort rally leader, 2:20 your Minamoto build make me confused
Nice vid Chis as always
tysm
Does the trophy hunter also gives bonus for forts?
Hey chis can you make a video on 5 marches for grinding barbs With similar march speeds, very useful for KvK
Interesting idea. Not sure if I have enough for a whole video. I use 5 peacekeepers as prime and aoe in some of the secondaries to pull Agro on bonus barbs.
1:17 Does Mina/Cao Cao have increased damage to Barbarian Forts too? The skill description says "barbarians" and I heard forts are considered "neutral units".
yes they do, its written barbarians and neutral units = guardians, forts, ,marauders etc
i need help with an answer guys if i set up a barb fort rally march with an aethel will i need mixed troops or 1 troop march
Depends on your skill tree
Does the accessory Savage Totem work against barbarian forts?
What about aethelfleda with Ramses and Aethe mor support spec for the slow speed buff at the end that trigger her 20% dmg instead of the peacekeeper or leadership skill
best secondary commander pairing for barb forts?
Does Trophy Hunter works for Barbarian Forts Aswell?
does minamoto do extra damage on just barbarians or barbarian forts as well?
both
What is march for
Video from long ago but just wondering if windset (marsh speed) or % barbarians damage is the most optimised ? lol, ikik this is mabe too far for barbarians forts..
% damage against barbs is the way to go
Hi Chisgule! Are there better commanders to take when some other alliance member is leading the rally ?
urmm dude. only the lead commander is active. for others who is participating the rally , your commandr skill is muted. but, you can always use a commander that emphasizes holding bigger troops. such as scipio or any other commander that can hold bigger troops. also, try using a peace keeper as your primary. because participate a rally cost 150 but you will down to 140 if you use a peacekeeper.
@@legend-vh3pi Thanks
Come on guys lets get 100k subs
Im using sun bjorn to rally forts, only inf and its doing better than if i were to use peacekeepers, tho thats prob because of the equipment :p
I love Mina and double C.
Whatever you do, never bring an healing commander
Still up to date?
Regarding Cao Cao, when using him as a secondary for Forts, would you use the exact same skill tree as Minamoto and not the mobility?
Talent tree on secondary commander doesn't count
I use Athel ysg
Lohar is mazing if u max out 5551 in day 2 i guess
When is the kvk on your kingdom chisgule?
No one knows. We assume December.
it wasn't a great job....you were awesome!!! ^_^ thanks a lot sir
mina as main with AEthelflaed as sec good enough?
Yeah that’s a decent combo.
Does anyone know if the Savage Totem also works on barb forts?
If you craft that gear, you have way bigger problems :-)
Why not Aethielfields + mina or cc?
You can. Aethel wants mixed and those both want cavs but if you had an expertised Mina you’d use it with aethel for sure
Build for bel ?
When helping rallies, people yelled at me for bringing siege units :( should I never use siege units for helping rallies?
No siege units.
Unless you're reinforcing, and you're already on the spot so your siege won't slow their overall rally march speed on the way
Attila and takeda guide plz
I rallied forts with charles martel and richard
Ohh god, that’s not a combo I would recommend lol
@@Chisgule ill do better on this account now😆
watch out with eathel her aoe will draw barbs in range.
True! Bonus barbs haha
but a f2p player cant be a fort rally leader in kvk 😗
Depends on your rally size and commanders and Alliance tech. It's difficult for lower players to rally larger forts. Most of what is available in zone 4/5 is possible. Also you can have people meet you at the fort to reinforce
I see Mina I click like
your move speed talent kinda meh i have other build with only 1% less movement speed but while still able to maintain same speed while being hit and without move speed debuff
with the gear bonus to cav (30%) would it not be better to use those talants for march speed instead of peacekeepers talants?
@@themood1984 I was talking about his cc move speed build that he said
Who else always hear insted of Cao cao I her taw taw
Chisgule pronounced the name correctly. It is Chinese transliteration "pinyin" spelling . Many youtubers mispronounced as "cow cow".
Yes, he pronounces really well, very close to Chinese pronunciation!
@@kittyhipster3305 Another mispronounced general is Sun Zi. Yet to hear a western youtuber pronounced it correctly. :) [Even Shinchi42 compromised and mispronounced to cater to the fans]
I had to stop watching as your forced yourself to justify anything Lohar.