Elliotte Friedman Provides Insight on Gauthier Trade
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2024
- The biggest blockbuster trade of the season so far went down between the Anaheim Ducks and Philadelphia Flyers. NHL Now brought in Elliotte Friedman to talk about the trade.
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I agree with Elliott. If Gauthier gave Briere a reason, he (and Jones) would have definitely listened and tried to find a way to fix it (within reason). I think Gauthier would have done really well in Philadelphia. I wish him well. I hope Drysdale wins the Norris Trophy as a Flyer.
If Philly not signing him to an NHL contract in March WAS the reason, it was already too late to fix it.
Making a big deal or nothing
Drysdale will win the IR report trophy
@@SurfinCowboy5615 Your mom won the most gallons swallowed award 😂
@@smeagol9119best part about that is you actually thought when you hit send “this is a banger of a comment” 😂😂 what a loser. In shambles over a decision a 19 year old made 💀
Elliott knows his shit. I remember when he was first on Hockey Night in Canada and wondered what he was doing there. He didn't play hockey. He wasn't a jock but somehow he developed the magic sauce to know what every team and every player that's in the mix is up to. He must be working 24/7 to keep on top of everything and that means he has to maintain relationships with all the GMs, Coaches, Agents and Scouts, plus all of the hockey media. The guy is impressive. I wonder how he makes his money but given his knowledge and connections he must be worth a ton of money.
Come on, what Elliott said is either made up or pathetic from the Gauthier camp. It makes no sense for that to be why he didn’t want to sign with the Flyers
You are so right...Elliotte is like bbl insider Ken Rosenthal on steroids. I've been listening to him forever and the guys just never wrong!
Elliot's speculation makes sense as to why Gauthier may have soured on the Flyers. However, if true it does bring into question the kind of advice he's getting from those handling him or his ability to consider the advice he's getting. One thing is for sure. He will have a target on him during his first season, especially in Philly.
Just like Eichel did when he left Buffalo. Then no one cared after a while.
@@mastersplinter483Eichel was already an established NHL player. To other players in the league that probably makes it different.
Not giving Briere any credit. Guy is scum for allowing his kids to throw down someone’s wheelchair and then to protecting him. He’s not to be trusted
Adam Fox did the same thing to Calgary .
@@user-md3ij9oc9q I kinda wondered if that might have something to do with it
No worries, I hear Philadelphia fans are very forgiving.
Lol
Most forgiving in all of sport....
Playing in California, why should he care? He plays in Philadelphia once per year.
@@Uuusssaaas If he's smart, he'll sit out that game in Philly. Not saying they would deliberately hurt him.... But there's a greater than 0% chance.... And it's Philly....I don't support any Philly teams and I know better than to poke that crowd
Yeah sending death threats to a teenager
His first appearance in philly is gonna be fun
Well he won't be in Philly very often playing for Anaheim...but, we don't forget
No matter what you, your family & agent does not even extend the COMMON COURTESY to even respond at all, especially when they traveled all the way to Sweden just to speak with you, that shows he & his camp are totally CLASSLESS and in life I cheer for class above all in people, let alone athletes~!! I was the biggest Gauthier fan until today when he lost all respect !!!
If it was ANY OTHER FRANCHISE, then I would agree with you. HOWEVER... I am old enough to remember a fella named Eric Lindros... and a VERY SIMILAR SITUATION. And I think to myself.... boy karma sure can be a funny thing!
what’s Gauthiers’ side of the story? Class would be hearing both sides before placing judgement
@@MOTU_CTR Karma or not at least Eric Lindros was upfront and honest about his feelings and not cowardice in avoiding all contact with the organization that tried everything and did not even give respect to have a conversation with former star NHL players in John Leclair & Patrick Sharpe shows immaturity, entitlement & CLASSLESSNESS!!!
@@CrashAntilles Because he wanted to turn pro this year and the Flyers wanted him to stay at BC to develop as a center... Either way, no matter what the reason, have the CLASS to speak up rather than totallly ghost the organization citing NO REASON at all...that is the issue !
@@aqn1976you don’t know that.
Being from Philly, my first thought is his reason was not wanting to live in or near the city. I moved to Vegas recently and should’ve done it as a teenager myself when I trained in the Mojave Desert while in the military. A world of difference to me and I fell in love with the desert immediately. I love Philly for it being the birthplace of this country, however it’s fallen very far from those glory days.
Great segment , i agree with yous.
Bryan Hayes from TSN says the Flyers handled it very badly. The guy is a mush. I'll never watch TSN while Hayes is on that channel. At least the NHL Network appreciates the difficulty for the franchise and how they handled it. I'm really happy Elliotte brought a new look into the picture. We've heard so many different rumors as to why Gauthier didn't want to play for the Flyers. He basically lost a year in the league because they couldn't sign him... It's just too bad he couldn't see that's part of the business, and he lost the year no matter what. If they Flyers wanted to be cruel, they could have held him up for 2 more years.
TSN (Overdrive) is horrible as media. they had Nylander on yesterday, kissed his ass, congratulated him. then today complained about his contract and money. back to business for Toronto media. Hayes is a bitter human being.
People forget this is a job for these kids. He's the only top 10 pick from the 2022 draft without a contract. That also means he's the only one who isn't a millionaire. He doesn't owe them anything. He definitely doesn't owe them an explanation. He was a top 10 pick a year and a half ago and he hasn't gotten paid. It's no wonder he wanted out. This is "old school" thinking on the part of the Flyers management and it's no wonder it made a new employee want no part of it.
@@pirtatejoe hack job take. he told them he didn't want to be a flyer almost a year ago in may 2023. they kept this under wraps to protect his trade value. it's not like this is sudden news to the front office. they've been working on trading him for a very long time. what better time to trade him at his highest value after a gold medal run.
@@pirtatejoehe could have had a contract if he didn’t ghost them. That was the plan.
@@pirtatejoe You are a dunce and have no idea what you are talking about.
if what is being said is true about what happened, I as a Flyers fan am happy that we traded him. I know he is talented and all but he is not the second coming of Wayne Gretzky or anything. Truly shows he has no patience and is still really immature. He would have been a huge part of the Flyers team for many years. I do like what we got back in Drysdale though.
Four sixty-minute performances in a row. I can't remember seeing that. I hope they can carry it through the tough games now.
Lol, the idea that hockey fans will forget about it. People still talk about Lindros, and the Nordiques haven't existed in 30 years.
Elliotte's the GOAT.
Ego!
It is the coach !!!!
With 32 teams in the NHL it is tempting for a kid's mind to wander to greener pastures however real or imagined.
let him play where ever D briere is awesome
FOX Is still Booed in Calgary. Fans never forget.
If he just dislikes the city or Torts,ok then
But if Elliotte is right about Cutter being hurt about not joining NHL no,he is a big baby drama queen
Good riddance
Either way he’s a baby. Good players like to be coached hard and pushed. Nhl has a few faithful fan bases and Philly is one of them.
They priotized tanking over playing a top 5 pick.. if he's so bad why wouldn't they just play him?
@@alijenkins6465they would have tanked even if he joined them at the end of the season, come on buddy.
@@alijenkins6465 Because if they sign him and play him, they burn up a year of his 3-year entry-level contract. Then he becomes RFA sooner, he becomes UFA sooner, in other words, he gets paid sooner (assuming of course he lives up to expectations). It wasn't about good or bad, it was about making the best decision for the team at the time, and wanting to preserve Gauthier's ELC for three whole seasons instead of just 2 and a fifth.
@@ellaella5537 then just let him join...
Freege! Dapper reporter. Always comes down to $$$. Cutter looks like a guy that loves money,
He’s definitely he a guy that comes from money
If that’s the case I think I understand. They probably came in, low balled him and said hey this is what we are giving you and nothing more. You can get an AHL contract. And then he was left shocked. And then subsequent conversations that proceeded were along the lines of are you ready to make that deal and be a flyer. To continue to rub it in.
Based on how the Flyers did this whole smear campaign I think they are a lot more at fault for souring the relationship than they’ve led on. Gauthier just said to them, “I don’t want to be a flyer or I’m not signing” and there is no wrong in that at all. He has that right, he can stay in college all 4 years and become a free agent as well. He has that right and he owes a team nothing. They are the ones that drafted him just because he plays hockey. He has no obligation to the city or the organization. And the audacity of them to act like he feels privileged is insane. He’s the one who put in the work to be a top 5 selection in the NHL. Not the fat money pocket lining suits.
This should be a disgrace to the Philadelphia organization. And even if he didn’t like torts he has that right as well. And he was honest with them and told them. He could’ve lied all 4 years and they would have gotten nothing.
This isn’t right.
Some fair points, but saying he gave them his reasons is not accurate as far as I understand. All the reporting I've seen indicates they still do not know exactly what changed.
I agree with the premise that young players, especially high draft picks, can and should be able to utilize the influence they have to determine the course of their careers. They have that right. But I think there is a right way to go about it and a wrong way to go about it, and in the absence of Gauthier's side of the story (which he is fully justified in withholding if he wishes), it's hard not to conclude that he and his camp handled this in about the worst way possible.
@@jspotter89 well reports have said him and his agent or maybe just his agent said they’re not signing.
But still even if they didn’t say anything - Reports said conversations went cold after their last engagement - we could say that “inaction is action”.
And I still think that not answering is still fine as well. Gauthier was drafted because they wanted him. Not the other way around. He owes them absolutely nothing. Not even a handshake if he doesn’t want to. And that should never be seen as disrespect either. Because they wanted him.
People think that’s petty because they think it’s a privilege to play in the NHL because they don’t have that talent. But it’s the same as anything else. You put in the work to be a supreme talent at anything. You’d want to choose to be wherever you want. Lewis Hamilton for example. It’s just these pro sports try to flex their prowess over young boys and take them and pluck them from what they know and love and force them to love a city and town and organization they don’t know and might not care about.
Some people are fine with that. Gauthier put his head down and kept on trucking and let his agent handle it. I think he’s a man amongst boys for that.
Elliot lookin Fly
I’m not passing judgment on Gauthier until I hear what he has to say. I haven’t heard his side, at least not directly from him. Just a bunch of speculation and Twitter bullshit talk.
I will say this, though. I find it very hard to believe that he would refuse to meet with Daniel Brière in Sweden if something hadn’t happened that we weren’t aware of.
Huge loss for Anahihem. Flyers didnt lose anything lol. Right handed offensive defensmen are not easy to come around.... him plauing in a defensive sytem with torts, is the perfect match made in heaven. Prob to flyers mangemnt, briere smelling the cup. Love it.
Anaheim has a shit load of defensemen.
They were more than happy to take the deal. I know that’s not what you wanna hear because it doesn’t fit your narrative, but it’s true.
Bro doesn’t realize drysdale spends more time on IR than the ice. Flyers aren’t going anywhere for the next decade. Poverty franchise. Based off your spelling, I’m guessing your a Philly Public School product.
@@SurfinCowboy5615 I'm actually from NJ. X Rangers fan... As I see it flyers are making the playoffs epically grabbing Jamie. If he playing he producing. Having a right defensmen epically offensive is huge in today's league. He definitely top 4 and eventually can be top 2. Flyers are only going to get better... Anaheim is kinda on the rocks and you can say they have a good future but it's just a theory. Flyers are here to stay and adding a huge piece is only.going to improve their chances.
@@BrownKnee666 Flyers are 2 points ahead in the Wildcard in January. Do you know so little about hockey that you think that means they are heading for the playoffs? Save this message and come back to me in April. Drysdale has 46 points in 124 games played. That is literally the opposite of “if he’s playing, he’s producing.” Love you casuals that just spout out complete BS.
@@SurfinCowboy5615 dude he is a defeamen scoring in 1/3 of his games in Anahiem where they have sucked ever since losing Getz or Getz last 2 years....this is a good player man. U complain about Dry but Cutter never stepped in the NHL ice. On top of that Flyers will add ANOTHER prospect as well... so like I said a proven top 4 YOUNG RIGHT D, and a 2nd for a prospect with ego problems.
Aside from hockey I'd prob want dry in the locker room over cutter. So that's also a win.
Flyers will prob get in at this pace they do not show signs of slowing down. Ya I'd love to laugh at u when they make it in. Casuals. I'm 30 dude and played hockey my whole life and coached. I won college Champs and captain of hs. Very successful hockey career. But u can hate all u want man if that makes u feel good.
Two Points... Why does Elliotte look like he is about to forgive my sins through a one way window. Second, This is a Lindros situation... When you come to Philly, keep your head up kid!!
Nothing like the Lindros situation. It’s different. Might be even worse imo
@@yurk21The only people claiming it's different than the Lindros situation are Flyer fans. Hometown hypocrisy, anyone?
@@yurk21 Its definitely worse than the Lindros situation. Lindros wasn't a coward about it, he made his intentions to not play for the Nordiques clearly and publicly. Yeah, it was a slight against the franchise and the fans, but not the total disrepect that Gauthier showed the Flyers. I'm not even a fan of the Flyers. The way he handled (or, refused to handle) the situation is disrepectul to the whole league and all the players who want to play in it, and goes against the traditions and values of the sport.
@@MOTU_CTRthe only people that think it's the same as Lindros are people not old enough to remember.
1) Lindros was a generational player with immense hype and Cutter is just a guy.
2) Lindros was public with his intentions up front.
@@protest9093and Lindros told Quebec BEFORE the draft and said don’t draft him. Quebec was a dying franchise. Philly now is a great franchise and a big market. Cutter is a drama queen
They should have traded him to Pittsburgh.
Bless me Father for I have sinned
The only sweater the kid wants to wear is the one with the dollar sign logo ? Wow
Kid wanted his shot at the show, Verbeek will give him that.
No kid demanded to join NHL for last 15 games in +1 draft year burning an ELC and was so entitled couldnt wait all of 5 months to start NHL career.
Drysdale is made of glass, played 18 games in 18 months. Also, start the clock on when Torts benches him for his poor defense, you just know he will. Torts is gonna Torts, especially with young players.
No-one knows what Gauthier will become, he hasn't even played professional hockey yet. But all the stuff about it following him around for his career is pure garbage, plenty of young players have refused to sign with their drafting team. Adam Fox refused both Calgary & Carolina, it hasn't affected him in the slightest. I think more young players will do it, rather than waste the early part of their careers in the crappiest teams in the league.
😅😅😅😅😅😅
Let me mention his abysmal 7.7% shots to goals percentage he put up in this “superb” gold medal World Cup win. For anyone wondering bedard was 20.5%
Logan Cooley was 15%. In comparison.
Cutter plays small on the boards and is gonna lose even more time to get the puck off in the NHL. Time will tell though
He was a HORSE 4 th US team, & hs mates Luvd him! some times pucks don’t go in, hs % is usualy prty gd! but he found ways to b tied for th Points lead in tht Torny, & if u thnk he was soft in thoz gms, u wern’t wtchn
@@rogerchaufornier9916 he is no bedard
Corect! he’s not Bedard! nothng like hm! very few r, have ben, or wil b! 1st of all, he’s not tht type of playr, but prty phkn gd, thnk John LeClair!
It was torts.an anything that screws over filthy philly than it was good..
Quitter Gauthier picked the wrong fanbase to upset (I.e. JD Drew) lol he sounds like a drama queen and a brat. For once in 20 years, Crosby isn’t public enemy #1 in Philly lol
My cousins husband played for the Phillies while the JD Drew thing was going on. He once told me that people where throwing batteries at JD when he came back to play in Philly for his first game.. OUCH
Yeah a fan base he’ll see once a season unless they meet in a cup final. Oooh, stupid take.
As a Flyers fan, the Flyers brass screwed this up royally. Who cares about cap problems in 2023-24 as the team was rebuilding. You don’t play around with a guy with this upside, even if he’s a diva. You get him signed because he and Michkov were our future.
This is just another example of why the Flyers haven’t won a Cup for 50 years. Whether it’s Clarke in the 90’s refusing to address the goaltending situation when you have Lindros. Whether it’s signing Bryzgalov and trading Bobrovsky. Whether it’s taking Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar. They always screw up the big moves.
Go root for another team casual.
Bobrovsky was not very good on the Flyers. I don't blame them for that trade.
Holy shit boys. An actual sane Flyers fan.
@@21sledCasual? Lol. The biggest problem is Flyers fans don’t criticize the team enough and always circle the wagons, I actually saw fellow Flyers fans blaming Kevin Hayes. Lol. The Management F-d up big time and the fans need to call Briere and Jones out. We let a top prospect go because we were worried about the salary cap in rebuild season.
@@scottarmen9097Bobrovsky was a rookie in 2010-11 and had a good season until he hit the rookie wall that year and faded. They went out and signed Bryz that summer, then traded Bob the next year. Typical Flyers as they don’t let these guys develop and the player comes back to haunt them on another team (Remember Patrick Sharp and Justin Williams). The team has had NO patience and Bobrovsky is exhibit A.
Saying it had nothing to do with Torts is laughable I'm not saying he's the main reason but it certainly factored in.
I wouldnt wanna play for torts either would probavky make him a 4th line grinder would have like to see his side or if hes looking out fir his best interest
OMG he was drafted at 18..EIGHTEEN! We gotta remember how young that is. There is a reason the Blackhawks gave Connor Bedard a large 50Yr old "body man" to escort him around. Mature or not, at 18 he's unsophisticated and way too young to take on a scrum of 8 or 10 reporters every time he enters or leaves a rink. Hey y'all, did any of you do something at 18 that you regretted at 21 or 25 or 40? I find you (and me) guilty as charged.
Keven Hayes and the Boston Clique influenced
People forget Kevin Hayes refused to sign with the team that drafted him. Whether it was specifically about Philly, I wouldnt be surprised if Kevin told Gauthier that you have a choice and any blowback isnt the end of the world
@@shaman9 if its hayes it wasn't just him. The BC boys stick together
Hayes came out and said he had nothing to do with and only took the kid golfing once at the teams request. Also Hayes never asked out of Philly he was a salary dump that was originally supposed to be part of the sanheim deal
People are acting like this doesn't happen a lot. Players don't sign with the team that drafts them quite often. Who cares if he didn't want to play in Philadelphia? He doesn't owe the fans anything. The Flyers could have lost him for nothing, instead they got a defenseman & a draft pick. It's not like Gauthier demanded to be traded to Toronto or Vegas, he's going to Anaheim.
Philly and JT. Who wants that ?
Seems like the kid could have benefited from a coach like Torts who would have shown him that no one is bigger than the team.
Out of respect for the flyers ‘ he should give them the reason why he don’t want to play for them’ obviously there’s a reason
Glad to see him traded to Ducks.no class.good luck with those sitting ducks.
Hope Deslauriers breaks this kids back when the flyers play the ducks. Wish nothing but bad luck for this kid throughout his career. Thinking he is Sid or ovie when he has proved nothing yet.
Great story. However, it doesn’t add up. Briere said 2-3 months after they drafted him he told them he didn’t wanna be a Flyer. The draft is in the summer. Great story but again seems like Elliott spreading nonsense to sound more important than he actually is.
I was just thinking that. I don’t think Danny B would purposely lie about that.
he was drafted in 2022 it was last may he decided he didn't want to play ..... hope that clears it up for you
@@samsawhney34582-3 months after the draft is November-ish. Elliott claimed this happened in March 2023. Learn to read
This is a horrible trade 4 the flyers, lets drafted a Dmen in the first rd we can't drafted Dmen or trade 4 one....
C’mon guys, be real. It’s the coach and no one in their right mind would ever admit that. It doesn’t need to be said.
Idk, if I’m a big time prospect I’m not too worried about the coach given that most coaches don’t last 3 years with the same team
I would not play for torts either!
Because you’re too soft.
If you draft a player who refuses to sign they need to compensate the team that drafted them somehow.
Maybe the player carries a million in cap space per season for the original team that drafted them until they reach ufa status.
Maybe the team that eventually signs them gives up their next first round pick.
They were compensated: they got a defenseman & a 2nd round draft pick.
Caps please don't do this to Ryan Leonard. If this is how the kids are nowadays you gotta plan ahead
So now when top players end up to teams they don’t want. Then they ask for a trade and a team loses out. This crap started with baby lindros back in the day.
Philly is a rough city. So I can understand not wanting to play there. I know I wouldn't want to live there if I didn't have to.
He’d live in a rich, well-off neighborhood. He’d be fine lol
Philly metro area has some of nicest areas in country and is where tons of player retire. Every huge city has some bad areas like LA, NY, Chicago etc.
I think it’s pretty obvious why he didn’t want to play and live in Philly… who in their right mind would ever willingly live in Philly. Not that California is much better.
You sound like a fun person. And from Florida, the place where they burn and ban books like it is the 1800s. Yeah Florida is definitely much better
Most Philly players live in South Jersey.
@@Fourrings80 The entire east coast is a shithole. From Miami to maine. I traveled up and down i95 for years for work. I worked in just about every major city along i95. Spent months if not years in jersey, washington dc and philly area. Nothing but trash and needles collecting at metro stations.
There are nice suburbs like in South Jersey if you know where to look. Plenty of shit areas too.@@FloridaHockeyFan
How bout dat jaw tho
This is Lindros all over again but this time done to Philly
nope not even close . cant compare the 2 situations
This is continuing a dangerous trend. It’s making the NHL Draft irrelevant and showing draft picks that they can be free agents from jump street. Could you imagine if all the top draft picks in baseball decide that they want to play for the Yankees and Dodgers? The owners need to agree that there is only one way for a player to enter the league and that is through the team that drafts them.
Careful no they were tanking, why would you be worried about the cap this year lmao so silly.
Philly is shit place to be cheesesteak fetterman it’s Philly I don’t blame the kid
Drysdale is injury prone so far in his career. He's not a shutdown guy you'd think Danny could get something better than a guy who could possibly end up a bust.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Connor Bedard just broke his jaw by a mediocre hit. Is he now injury prone and a bust?
@@HardcityRaindrops played 8 games last year and has only played ten this year lmao yeah you're right I'm totally wrong dude.
@@alijenkins6465You are wrong. Because you have no idea how a player’s future will turn out. So instead of thinking of the worst why don’t you just shut up.
Flyers getting a great young d man. Dude can fly- Ducks fans v sad about him leaving
@@HardcityRaindropsthe guy is prone man and the hit on bedard was clean goof ball
Elliotte always broadcasting from his closet.
Spoiled,ego maniac,we,will see!
Quitter Gauthier
If he had provided a reason, then fine. But because he broke his word, that means he's a coward
Gauthier has been a simp and it will stick for a log while.