This is a fascinating document of Sutherland's early singing which certainly shows the potential that had been identified in her large and steady vocalization. For those below, no one ever argued that she should be a Wagnerian due to her diction so the arguments are really moot. It was the size, eveness across its range and its superbly integrated sound that made professionals think she was a potential Wagnerian. As for "always being able to recognize" an accent, I have lived overseas in more than one country and visited many. I have been asked if I was British, German, Dutch, Danish, and Swedish but never, interestingly was I asked if I was American.. So much for "always" recognizing an accent.
She actually first drew attention to herself at Covent Garden in the early 1950s as Agathe in 'Der Freischutz , in which I saw her on tour (those were the days) in Manchester. AND a couple of nights later she turned out as a Walkure for Goodall in a production in which Anny and Hilde Konetzni both appeared - with Anny's Brunnhilde having a demanding time navigating Leslie Hurry's cardboard-rock sets. There were no complaints about her German!
@@scottgrunow5201 You must have had a better seat than I did. But Brunnhilde doesn't need to shield herself from Wotan in Act II. And in Act III all of Wotan's crew are on parade armed to the teeth. She gets to lie down under her shield at the end of a lot of hard work, but doesn't have to sing when she does. This was April 1954. When I told an old Covent Grden hand of the 1930s that I'd seen Hilde Konetzni's Sieglinde (Sylvis Fisher also sang it on that tour and he had been her concert manager)he nearly dropped his drink, and went into a rhapsody about the way she moved - presumably in the thirties. In 1954 she appeared to have filled out more than a little.
Thank you. This is a very unique experience Sutherland sounds great singing in German. I'm not a fan I probably would be if she stayed with the German repertoire.
I understand her decision to specialize in the bel canto repertoire and coloratura; but she often had to over lighten her voice in order to sing those roles. I really like her in this kind of repertoire (and other roles like Donna Anna, Elettra, Queen of the Night) which showcased her voice's power, range, and flexibility. She would've been amazing as the Empress in Die Frau Ohne Schatten.
Thank you ! What a unique hearing-experience hearing J.S. singing in German. It's the only example I've heard that explains why she would have been considered a great Wagnerian before the Conductor re-directed her to Bel-Canto. I'm not necessarily a fan, but this example & the sucessful transition proves what great vocal-skills she had in the earliest days. Many Thanks !
Cliff Gaither how can you tell with her poor diction. It could be Dutch for all we know. I've never been a fan of hers as well I find her very boring no emotion to her voice no pathos and excuse the diction. Sorry if I offended anyone. Arnold Bourbon Amaral
@@arnoldamaral7406 :: Can't argue w / your opinion about her diction. It wasn't good in Italian & I imagine it wouldn't be in German, but at least I could tell it was "German", a language rarely performed in, in her case. J.S. maybe vocally boring to you ( no pathos ), but the operatic-quality of her voice is at least there. It can't be easy to transition to very different styles in operatic music. In the earlier part of her career, she did have a wonderful quality of sound, I think. _( No offense taken as you are probably right :: I wouldn't know "Dutch" about the language. I don't know the Dutch language but after listening to oper@ for a while now, I can at least detect Italian from German from French from Russian. )_ Your experience w / opera is well-known here & elsewhere & I, like you, am not a fan of Joan Sutherland but give her a break -- at least here ( ? )
@@arnoldamaral7406 So why are you always one of the first persons to comment on videos of Sutherland's (not just even watch them, I mean commenting too)? Do you have so much spare time that you can listen to the singers you like and also to the ones you dislike and give your unsolicited opinion about them all? Wow lucky you (or maybe not). :-P Just wondering: do you speak fluent German? I don't, but I instantly recognized several German words in Sutherland's singing, and it was immediately clear to me she is singing in German. At least she is singing the words in some way, not just vocalizing over what should be phrases as some other sopranos did, you know... lol
Cliff Gaither a well educated German lecturer told me one is very bad English how bad her German was. It made me laugh. You can always hear an accent in a second language. Always. That’s life.
Whow!!!!!!Schech is amazing
This is a fascinating document of Sutherland's early singing which certainly shows the potential that had been identified in her large and steady vocalization. For those below, no one ever argued that she should be a Wagnerian due to her diction so the arguments are really moot. It was the size, eveness across its range and its superbly integrated sound that made professionals think she was a potential Wagnerian. As for "always being able to recognize" an accent, I have lived overseas in more than one country and visited many. I have been asked if I was British, German, Dutch, Danish, and Swedish but never, interestingly was I asked if I was American.. So much for "always" recognizing an accent.
Schech! What a voice
I am fainting. Love Joanie.
I know Im kinda off topic but do anyone know of a good site to stream newly released tv shows online ?
@Warren Ricardo I use Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
Hermosa voz de la Sra Sutherland hoy descansa en la tibieza del manto de la Mater Chile 🌹😂
She actually first drew attention to herself at Covent Garden in the early 1950s as Agathe in 'Der Freischutz , in which I saw her on tour (those were the days) in Manchester. AND a couple of nights later she turned out as a Walkure for Goodall in a production in which Anny and Hilde Konetzni both appeared - with Anny's Brunnhilde having a demanding time navigating Leslie Hurry's cardboard-rock sets. There were no complaints about her German!
Anny at that time had no notes above A and covered her face with her shield during the ho yo to ho to distract from the notes she ducked
@@scottgrunow5201 You must have had a better seat than I did. But Brunnhilde doesn't need to shield herself from Wotan in Act II. And in Act III all of Wotan's crew are on parade armed to the teeth. She gets to lie down under her shield at the end of a lot of hard work, but doesn't have to sing when she does. This was April 1954. When I told an old Covent Grden hand of the 1930s that I'd seen Hilde Konetzni's Sieglinde (Sylvis Fisher also sang it on that tour and he had been her concert manager)he nearly dropped his drink, and went into a rhapsody about the way she moved - presumably in the thirties. In 1954 she appeared to have filled out more than a little.
Thank you. This is a very unique experience Sutherland sounds great singing in German. I'm not a fan I probably would be if she stayed with the German repertoire.
I understand her decision to specialize in the bel canto repertoire and coloratura; but she often had to over lighten her voice in order to sing those roles. I really like her in this kind of repertoire (and other roles like Donna Anna, Elettra, Queen of the Night) which showcased her voice's power, range, and flexibility. She would've been amazing as the Empress in Die Frau Ohne Schatten.
Thank you !
What a unique hearing-experience hearing J.S. singing in German. It's the only example I've heard that explains why she would have been considered a great Wagnerian before the Conductor re-directed her to Bel-Canto. I'm not necessarily a fan, but this example & the sucessful transition proves what great vocal-skills she had in the earliest days.
Many Thanks !
Cliff Gaither how can you tell with her poor diction. It could be Dutch for all we know. I've never been a fan of hers as well I find her very boring no emotion to her voice no pathos and excuse the diction. Sorry if I offended anyone. Arnold Bourbon Amaral
@@arnoldamaral7406 ::
Can't argue w / your opinion about her diction. It wasn't good in Italian & I imagine it wouldn't be in German, but at least I could tell it was "German", a language rarely performed in, in her case.
J.S. maybe vocally boring to you ( no pathos ), but the operatic-quality of her voice is at least there. It can't be easy to transition to very different styles in operatic music. In the earlier part of her career, she did have a wonderful quality of sound, I think.
_( No offense taken as you are probably right :: I wouldn't know "Dutch" about the language. I don't know the Dutch language but after listening to oper@ for a while now, I can at least detect Italian from German from French from Russian. )_
Your experience w / opera is well-known here & elsewhere & I, like you, am not a fan of Joan Sutherland but give her a break -- at least here ( ? )
@@arnoldamaral7406 So why are you always one of the first persons to comment on videos of Sutherland's (not just even watch them, I mean commenting too)? Do you have so much spare time that you can listen to the singers you like and also to the ones you dislike and give your unsolicited opinion about them all? Wow lucky you (or maybe not). :-P Just wondering: do you speak fluent German? I don't, but I instantly recognized several German words in Sutherland's singing, and it was immediately clear to me she is singing in German. At least she is singing the words in some way, not just vocalizing over what should be phrases as some other sopranos did, you know... lol
Arnold Amaral but you feel better now and these days that’s important.
Cliff Gaither a well educated German lecturer told me one is very bad English how bad her German was. It made me laugh. You can always hear an accent in a second language. Always. That’s life.
Shows how sizeable Sutherland's voice was.