HP LaserJet 4L and 4ML printers

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  • Опубліковано 3 гру 2024

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  • @lunamonkey
    @lunamonkey Рік тому +1

    I’ve completed this channel and the algorithm thinks I need this one again.

  • @lect0n7
    @lect0n7 6 років тому +20

    The HP LaserJet 4L is the greatest consumer/home level printer of all time

  • @austinstrunk
    @austinstrunk 12 років тому +1

    About 10 years ago I found a 4P in my neighbors trash. It is very similar to this printer. To this day i still have it (and use it as my primary printer) with the ORIGINAL toner cartridge. The toner cart is pretty expensive compared to others on the market, however if I get 10 years of life out of one, I have no problem buying a new one when the time comes.

  • @gregem6696
    @gregem6696 2 місяці тому +1

    I have this printer till now ( sept. 2024 ) My dad bought it in 1994, cost was about equal of PC computer 486 class. Very good product , one of first with PCL language, easy to print MS_Windows and DOS-true direct not emulation. Simply to use, not so speedy, only 4 ppm but it is enought for homeworking or small office . It can print also on stickers and heavy cartoon because flat way transfer sheet. And EXCELLENT eficcency (over 3000 pages on one toner cartridge !!! ) with option to refill toner powder - without electronic chip like now.

  • @acid_8
    @acid_8 7 років тому +2

    This was the first printer my parents got for us that was bundled with the first Pentium 60. It really was top of the line and this LaserJet 4L outlived most electronics in our house.
    This printer was awesome.
    The LaserJet 4L lasted us up until like 2004, and I think it was because we scrapped the desktops in the house and went directly with notebook/laptops which dumped the printer ports.
    I remember printing every school assignment and project from early grade school throughout high school. One thing we noticed was the factory OEM toner it came with somehow printed a lot more than the subsequent replacement HP toners we bought. I have a feeling that HP made better or higher yield toners way back then to grow the brand for its high quality laser printers. At some point they realized they were missing out on repeated revenue as the original toner must have printed well over 10,000 pages.
    Great printer, they have USB to LPT adapters now, wouldn't mind bringing this back from the attic and taking it apart. Thanks for the video.

  • @thecheeze850
    @thecheeze850 12 років тому +2

    That takes me back! Short term fix is to buy a small bottle of Roller Rejuvenator and apply to the part to make it sticky again - I have fixed many a printer with it! Agree with the comment on the 5L and 6L ... the problem was the supply 'tray' was exposed on top of the printer also leaving it open to collecting dust which would 'slick up' the feed rollers - bad design unless you keep it covered while not in use.

  • @ram4343
    @ram4343 8 років тому +2

    This was good! Thank you! After 4 min 30 sec. approxematly I got the solution. One skrew remived, and I discovered a little pice of paper which I removed. The 4L is now as good as new. It is from 1995! Still going strong!

  • @michaelnager6059
    @michaelnager6059 6 років тому +1

    I had a 4L when it first came out and I loved that little thing to bits.
    I wish I still had it and recently looked to see if I could perhaps pick one up, just for the nostalgia value, but alas they are gone forever.

  • @fwshaw
    @fwshaw 10 років тому +9

    I bought a LaserJet 4L in June of 1993. It has working flawlessly for home use until a near by lightening strike occurred and damage it and a lot of other computer equipment in the neighborhood. I found and purchased a used LaserJet 4L on eBay. It was well used and had lots of paper jams. I removed the formatting PCA (printed circuitboard assembly) from the eBay printer and replaced the lightening damaged one in my original printer. It worked again. I now have it connected to an AirPort Express router via parallel port to USB port cable. My original LaserJet 4L has a new life as I can now print from my laptop wirelessly via my WiFi network.

    • @lect0n7
      @lect0n7 6 років тому

      that'll be something like what I'm headed for... I've got masters degrees in Electrical Engineering & Computer Science from MIT...I'm working on making it so I can print from my iPhone to my 4L...

  • @MMWA-DAVE
    @MMWA-DAVE 10 років тому +4

    Black roller is a transport roller and will last the life of the machine, the grey half moon pickup will be the worn item. It will have a worn flat spot at the first contact area. I used to service HP laserjets in the 90's but i don't recall exactly how to change that roller, I seem to recall a bit of disassembly is required. I also seem to recall you could purchase the whole pickup/feed assembly as a unit which included the grey and black rollers if you wanted to do this. I dont know if parts are still available though, they started discontinuing 5 series parts a few years ago so I doubt it.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife  12 років тому +2

    According to the specs, the 4ML comes with 2 MB of RAM, while the regular 4L came with 1 MB but can be upgraded to 2 MB.

  • @1990chrism
    @1990chrism 3 роки тому +4

    I've literally just won an eBay auction for this exact model of printer, really glad it has the VWestlife and the ReviewTechUSA seal of approval.
    still a few new old stock toners knocking about as well , so managed to get myself a replacement toner for £14 too.

  • @NPCdude01
    @NPCdude01 11 років тому +1

    Very nice Printer. I have one of these at my school, made in April 1994. Prints very nicely, also with original toner.

  • @NJRoadfan
    @NJRoadfan 12 років тому +1

    Big fan of the PX engine printers here. A 4MP resides on my desk, and a 4P sits in the basement as spare parts. These printers are impossible to kill and you can't beat the $20 toner carts. The only bad thing to these printers is the pokey 4ppm. The 4P adds on the LCD display+controls, RS-232/Parallel interface, 600dpi mode, and 2MB of RAM, Postscript can be added with a rare ROM SIMM. The 4MP adds built in Postscript, Localtalk, and 6MB RAM. Both can be upgraded with SIMMs to 20+MB of RAM.

  • @alanlewis82
    @alanlewis82 12 років тому +1

    I actively use a HP 6P Laserjet and is set up on printer sharing through an XP box on our wireless network. These printers are solid.

  • @jjjjentges
    @jjjjentges 12 років тому +1

    My LaserJet 5 just passed 570,000 pages today. Go for it!

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv 12 років тому +2

    I recently retired a 4L after many years of reliable service :)

  •  Рік тому +3

    I regret getting rid of mine. Best printer I ever had.

  • @TGRVOnline
    @TGRVOnline 11 років тому

    The HP LaserJet 4L reminds me of the HP LaserJet we used to have in 2007, it was a huge HP LaserJet with Fax/Scan/Print. It printed either up, or through the front!

  • @warrenmacdonald1372
    @warrenmacdonald1372 8 років тому +1

    I purchased the 4L's brother the 4P (which I figured stood for "personal") in 1994. Same toner cartridge but 600 dpi and it cost $700 more ($1,595 CDN) than the 4L, so they had to justify that extra cost somehow other than a better engine, and one of those ways was the paper output tray. On the 4P it is a 100 sheet tray, and on the 4L it's a 50 sheet tray. But look closely at the tray on the 4L and you'll see a raised area that pretty well looks like about 50 sheets of paper! (this raised area isn't on the 4P) So on the box, HP could announce that the 4P had a larger output tray and hopefully swing people to buy the 600 dpir unit. The 4P also had a LCD backlit screen with many buttons so it looked nicer. I still have it, it works fine, but it's in the closet, having been replaced by a faster m/c. Great video Kevin.

  • @craftingqueen7596
    @craftingqueen7596 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this video! I learned a lot! I watched it because I was given an HP LaserJet 4L & was looking up reviews about how it works. Happy to see it works so well! 😊

  • @rufinawyndaria8698
    @rufinawyndaria8698 9 років тому +1

    11:40 I can already see streaking on the paper and I think it could be from some toner residue on the ejecting rollers.

  • @StevenSmyth
    @StevenSmyth 11 років тому +5

    I had the Apple version of this, the Personal Laserwriter 300. I was using it for desktop publishing, and it came stock with 2MB of RAM. Some of the documents I was printing were too much (EPS art from Freehand, Type 1 Postscript fonts, etc.) and the printer would frequently run out of memory. I bought an 8MB RAM upgrade and that did the trick. It also had the little doors on the side and only had the Apple serial connector, but it did support LocalTalk over PhoneNet so I hooked it into my AppleTalk network, which had a Power Mac 8500 with a 604 upgrade. Good times.

  • @zgtrophy
    @zgtrophy 11 років тому +1

    People, If this doesn't help, the other solution is video: fix sticking solenoids hp 4L paper jamming issue. Thank you for the good video and information. I'll try to make better grip of black roler either by benzin or maybe with sandpaper. Black roler near D roler is very smooth/sleapery. Btw my problem is the paper getting stuck on first draw/page everytime, nothing is printed. This is happening after one time it draw many paper at once, maybe 20pages,and it got stuck.

  • @francistheodorecatte
    @francistheodorecatte 12 років тому

    Many moons ago we had a 4ML for our Mac Quadra, but I had to throw it out after a cheap toner cartridge cracked and emptied its contents all over the inside of the printer. I've actually been using a LaserJet 1150 that I pulled out of a dumpster. side cover is cracked from getting dopped on top of a pile of Optiplex GX2xx Dells, and I had to spend $50 on a replacement toner cartridge, but it's printed over 1300 pages with only one jam from someone overfilling the paper tray.

  • @obsoletegeek
    @obsoletegeek 8 років тому

    Ahhh yes, I recall the 4x series. The desk at my first IT job had a HP LaserJet 4 sitting next to it. It was almost 15 years old at the time, and it smelled like old capacitors when it was running! I later found out that sitting next to that printer all day was a form of "new employee hazing"

  • @chefsolidOriginal
    @chefsolidOriginal 12 років тому +1

    Loved how even the hoover you had was retro! lol

  • @lmull3
    @lmull3 12 років тому

    those were workhorse printers. an insurance company i've done IT work for a few times has a couple of those and they're still working fine to this day.

  • @sandmanxo
    @sandmanxo 12 років тому

    It looks like these were built a lot better than the 5L and 6L were. I always stayed away from anything with an L at the end of it in the HP line because of how bad they were built. I'm glad I can pick up 4000/4050 printers now for $20 each with a jetdirect card. They last forever and the toner is dirt cheap too, and are my printer of choice until my supply of them dries up.

  • @Galfonz
    @Galfonz 9 років тому

    I have a 4 ML. Quality wise it is the best home printer I've ever owned. It lasted for almost 12 years before it started jamming up. If you can find the a Mac running OS 7 and the printer software for it (ha ha) you can configure it to print the detailed test page similar to the 4M. The 4ML will do both HP language and postscript.

  • @naturalenergycompany7170
    @naturalenergycompany7170 2 роки тому +1

    I agree this printer is fabulous. I have one query - I have recently purchased a new toner cartridge but it doesnt have the usual pull off tab to release the toner. the printing is therefore blank.
    Does anyone have any thoughts on how I can release the toner - or does this suggest it has not been filled?
    many thanks

  • @LachambredeNico
    @LachambredeNico 12 років тому +2

    I hava a HP Laserjet 4 plus L 116 000 pages on it still going strong

  • @alistairstuart2009
    @alistairstuart2009 11 років тому +2

    you made a 15 minute video about a printer interesting! well done :-)

  • @MrComputerfan
    @MrComputerfan 9 років тому

    Good Demonstration! Just found a 4L on the Recycling Place today, it does not jam but it doesn't print clearly nomore, maybe the cartridge needs to br replaced...

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  9 років тому +1

      MrComputerfan Usually replacing the toner cartridge will get it to print clearly again.

  • @markmagana9537
    @markmagana9537 9 років тому

    Great printer back in the day!

  • @cgillyard
    @cgillyard 12 років тому

    I use to repair them back in the days.

  • @IzzatSwandaru
    @IzzatSwandaru Рік тому

    Thanks for review this printer, i was remember my dad work over home to borrow printer from office use hp laserjet 4l & hp laserjet (i didnt remember but hp laserjet for A3)
    Their work drafter in Autocad 2000, 2004 & 2007 until now use 2010 😂
    Thanks for make this video

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX 9 років тому

    I have the same model great think about this printer is really in can print from DOS and even from a famiclone keyboard with parallel port I was amazed!
    Only problem with mine is that if I print more than 2 or 3 pages aways one of them stuck in the middle of process :( just like yours , so I have to replace this rubber?

  • @RobDJ1000
    @RobDJ1000 8 років тому

    Could you use the apple connector and also have it connected to windows via the parallel port at the same time

  • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
    @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 10 років тому +2

    I have an HP Laserjet 5 and I want to find a way to get it to work with an old Mac, as I'd like to be able to print from my 90s and 80s Macs. (Ex. PowerMac G3 beige, Macintosh IIci, Macintosh Classic II). Is there a parallel printer serial adapter to Apple's Apple Talk serial port?

    • @themaritimegirl
      @themaritimegirl 9 років тому

      maccollectorZ (Commenting Account) An HP J2341A AppleTalk card would be just the thing. You can get one for under $15 shipped on eBay, and it goes into the JetDirect slot on the back of the printer.
      Do you think you could make a video of that printer?

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 9 років тому +1

      ***** While it's not too necessary for me, it WOULD be cool to print with it. However, I have since acquired an Apple LaserWriter (blanking on the model name - it's tucked away), and have been able to print from my Performa 5215CD. Sadly, the only driver I have found for it does not fit on a floppy disk. My Performa is the only Mac I have that has an existing driver installation. Anyway, the Laserjet 5 would still be nice to print from. I'd like to--for once--be able to print from an SE or Classic II or something. The difficult(?) part would be finding a driver--assuming that MacOS doesn't have it built-in.
      Thanks for your reply, BTW. I could maybe make a video of it for you. I've been a bit reluctant to make videos, so far, this summer. I'll see if I can do it after I get a couple other videos out of the way that I have already planned.

  • @joelcr250
    @joelcr250 12 років тому

    I just bought a Samsung ML2510 laser printer built in 2008 off craigslist for $40 yesterday.

  • @RueAriarhod
    @RueAriarhod 4 роки тому +2

    My father owned a 5L for a month. A MONTH! Those things were the worst!

  • @RalphCQ
    @RalphCQ 12 років тому

    lol I had some Canon Bubblejet or something back in those days... the thing stopped working, and one day when it got stuck, I punched it and the whole front of it fell down, the ink cartridge and everything fell out.

  • @MrEp5
    @MrEp5 7 років тому

    These things are a beast!

  • @deeppurplefan9648
    @deeppurplefan9648 3 місяці тому

    What is the name of the song in the background at the beginning?

  • @DanielPinel
    @DanielPinel 8 років тому +5

    Why does it say "USB" on the back? There is no USB.(DUH)

  • @edisonpendelton1417
    @edisonpendelton1417 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @bzqp2
    @bzqp2 3 роки тому +1

    Any tips on how to install it on Win 10? I'm serious here - I have it lying around, it's still good so why not use it.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  3 роки тому +3

      It should just work. It uses standard PCL.

    • @bzqp2
      @bzqp2 3 роки тому

      @@vwestlife thanks, will try!

    • @cassac8996
      @cassac8996 3 роки тому

      did you manage to fix the installation? I am looking for the drivers in the HP page and I have not had any luck to install it in my Windows 10

    • @cassac8996
      @cassac8996 3 роки тому

      If you can do it, I hope you share the information on where I can download the installation driver. Thank you!

    • @bzqp2
      @bzqp2 3 роки тому

      @@cassac8996 Should work without any drivers to be honest. I just gave up since mine turned out to have some hardware issues and I didn't want to be bothered with the cable adapters.

  • @topher6_9
    @topher6_9 4 роки тому +1

    That printer is 2 months older than me.

  • @H3adcrash
    @H3adcrash 12 років тому +2

    Cool! we had one of these between 99-11 :P

  • @AgilityReAnimatedStudios
    @AgilityReAnimatedStudios 8 років тому

    HP JAMS a lot. The 5L & 6L were DEFINITELY notorious. Will we see something in the vein of the "Will it staple?" video beyond the 6L? a "Will it do this?" vwestlife series?

    • @lolman123401
      @lolman123401 8 років тому

      he did a 6l video if you didn't see it already ;)

    • @AgilityReAnimatedStudios
      @AgilityReAnimatedStudios 8 років тому

      The 6L was almost a month old on VWestlife and the 'Tube now. Who knows what non-printer thing will be the Trend Setter electric stapler and HP LaserJet 6L printer's sucessor?

  • @Browningate
    @Browningate 10 років тому

    If the printer leaves a lot of excess toner on the page after having left it sitting for several years, does it just need a new cartridge of toner?

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  10 років тому

      If it's been sitting for that long, you'll need to clean it and run it for a while before you can really judge whether or not the toner needs to be replaced.

    • @Browningate
      @Browningate 10 років тому

      vwestlife
      It seems like I had it apart a couple years back for a cleaning and I have printed a number of pages just to get its juices flowing, and still no luck. It seems like the image repeats at times too.

  • @jjjjentges
    @jjjjentges 12 років тому

    April 1996. Mine was made in December 1997.

  • @IamFat32
    @IamFat32 12 років тому

    will you fix the 4L?

  • @fuzzymonkey87
    @fuzzymonkey87 12 років тому

    Had one of these too! Good printer.

  • @jjjjentges
    @jjjjentges 12 років тому

    Not really. You will notice jamming in the fuser area when It needs to be replaced.

  • @rufinawyndaria8698
    @rufinawyndaria8698 9 років тому

    12:26 There's the residue streak again!

  • @NJRoadfan
    @NJRoadfan 12 років тому +1

    Did they ever sell that $130 CRT iMac in Union? If you want to see steep prices, head over to the Goodwill.... yikes.

  • @RetroVintageItems27
    @RetroVintageItems27 12 років тому

    I like how you say corner which with your NJ accent it sounds like: "conea."

  • @hakemon
    @hakemon 12 років тому

    I have one if these still. Lol. Mine doesn't work anymore.

  • @locluke77
    @locluke77 12 років тому

    got mine right on my desk

  • @fuzzymonkey87
    @fuzzymonkey87 12 років тому

    Haha. We did the same. Replaced the printer instead of getting new toner. Inkjets never look as sharp....

  • @SUNDRIEDTOMATOESBraydenOlson
    @SUNDRIEDTOMATOESBraydenOlson 7 років тому +1

    I get the feeling you sit at home printing out test pages and giggling to yourself day and night

  • @joelcr250
    @joelcr250 12 років тому

    Its good to repair things, rather than throw it all out like a wasteful consumer.

  • @macg86
    @macg86 12 років тому

    looks a lot like my old Apple Laserwriter 4/600, probably because both were made bei Canon.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife  12 років тому

    Look up "HP LaserJet 5" on Wikipedia. ;-)

  • @kd1s
    @kd1s 7 років тому +1

    Yes indeed, HP printers go through pickup rollers every 100000 to 200000 pages.

  • @fyredragon69
    @fyredragon69 8 років тому

    Are monochrome printers known for good quality or lazer printers?

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 8 років тому

      I have never seen a monochrome inkjet, but yes I definitely prefer monochrome lasers over inkjets, does depend what you're going to print on it mostly though.

    • @fyredragon69
      @fyredragon69 8 років тому

      So printing a inky B&W photo isnt the best idea?

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 8 років тому

      ***** Shouldn't matter too much depending on what you're doing with the photo, but lasers don't make the page wet like inkjets do. If you want a photo printed it would be best to do it at a store and just use the laser at home for work/school related or other things. Entirely depends on your situation and what's best for you though.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  7 років тому +1

      Most laser printers *are* monochrome printers, so I don't understand your question.

  • @stonent
    @stonent 8 років тому

    The M series printers all could do Adobe PS as well as PCL.

  • @MihaiGradin
    @MihaiGradin 7 років тому

    What happened with the 4L?

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  7 років тому +2

      The power supply failed so I got rid of it.

    • @maryandtrooper
      @maryandtrooper 7 років тому

      My 4L just came back on after YEARS! Couldn't bring myself to toss it. Thought I'd try one more time to find a way to fix it when it wouldn't turn on. Came across your video, and was ready to give up. Went back one more time, and voila! IT CAME ON! Have no idea why. I am SO happy. Just need to get it to work with my MacBook Air. Could use some help. I just love this printer. I have the newer HP LaserJet Pro P1102 Wireless, but still prefer my 4L. No comparison in print quality. Will it work with my MacBook Air? Thanks so much for your video.

    • @jakeblasdell5758
      @jakeblasdell5758 6 років тому +1

      I would buy a parallel to USB cable, and plug it in to the USB port on your wireless router, then you should be able to set it up on your Macbook
      Hope this helps!

  • @afwvenus5801
    @afwvenus5801 5 років тому

    I am from Indonesia and I really want to buy this printer. how to buy it

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  5 років тому

      I don't have it anymore. And besides, it's an American model so it only runs on 120 volt AC mains power.

    • @afwvenus5801
      @afwvenus5801 5 років тому

      @@vwestlife Thank you my brother

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX 9 років тому +1

    I found the FIX video but I can not copy and paste for unknown reason :(
    So type "fix sticking solenoids hp 4L paper jamming issue" here in you tube :) this is the answer !!! I fixed mine :))))

  • @павелбеликов-з9в
    @павелбеликов-з9в 7 років тому

    Hi . I have also had this printer . But I can not find drivers for it for Windows 10. Whether they exist at all? And what you use the system?

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife  7 років тому

      Just use the Windows 7 driver or whatever the latest version you can find is.

  • @павелбеликов-з9в
    @павелбеликов-з9в 7 років тому +1

    windows 10 itself found the driver , when checking available updates ))

  • @LankyFrankey
    @LankyFrankey 12 років тому +2

    Kinda looks like a US SNES :P

  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 8 років тому

    Is that a Hoover Constellation I see?
    EDIT: video answered my question lol

  • @Appleboy78165
    @Appleboy78165 11 років тому

    I had the 4L about 10 years ago. Then it died :(

  • @seagateprisma
    @seagateprisma 8 років тому

    why this printer so easy cracked casing

  • @H3adcrash
    @H3adcrash 12 років тому

    Oh yes. They are built like tanks. We tossed ours out when the toner got spent. And a new toner, even a pirate tonaer was 170 bucks... so we bought a new printer/copier/fax/scanner for 100 bucks instead.. lol

  • @techtron2376
    @techtron2376 9 років тому +2

    LOL "Plastic Lexmark piece of junk"

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 8 років тому +1

      +Techtron23 Ah yes good news! I got a HP laserjet 5L for free from my school, it works but needs new toner, will post a video possibly soon!

    • @techtron2376
      @techtron2376 8 років тому

      Sony Trinitron At an ICT room in school I found 5 Philips 150S4 LCD monitors from the early 2000's! Unfortunately I wasn't able to get one today (the classroom closed before I was going there to get one of the monitors), but I will see what happens tomorrow.

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 8 років тому

      Techtron23 Funnily enough my school is chucking out about 20 monitors! LCD monitors from around 2009 I can't get any though, they got this weird system and they're registered to something

    • @techtron2376
      @techtron2376 8 років тому

      Sony Trinitron Really, they're throwing them away?

    • @realgroovy24
      @realgroovy24 8 років тому

      Techtron23 Yeah! I find it absolutely insane that they're throwing them away, sure putting them up on Trademe or whatever is more hassle and the school has some weird thing about giving away hardware also because they say everyone will be asking for this and that but I doubt it but yeah, oh yes good news I got two HP NX6310 laptops and I am typing on one right now at school, (business grade luckily!) I managed to get a charger second hand for $5, I've had them for ages but kept them just sitting in my spare room for ages and never bothered to look for one until now, and yeah the Macbook has officially been retired, good thing about these HP NX6310's is that both of them were only used just a few times in their lifetime! So it is basically a new (old) laptop

  • @missiondemolition
    @missiondemolition 5 років тому

    I Have A Laserjet 4 NOT A 4M.