The full story is that herbie actually misheard miles! Miles actually told herbie not to play the BOTTOM notes (the white keys), but herbie still found meaning in the gibberish.
I've always heard that "bottom notes" referred to the low end of the piano, so that those notes wouldn't clash with the bassist's playing in that lower range
My long gone father was a jazz player. From the time I got home from school to going to bed, jazz playing on his HiFi. We had very little furniture but a huge collection of albums, reel to reel tapes and the HiFi. Herbie and Miles. Two of the greatest. Never get tired of listening to them.
Truth be told, I've been trying to solo omitting the 3rd and the 7th for quite some time now, but it's close to impossible to make it sound organic. There's a chance that Herbie is the only one who's able to do that properly.
I love Miles but I appreciate him "backwards". I love more his later stuff because that's what Hancock meant. Even though Mile's sound was funky but so interesting and entertaining. Those unexpected notes and melodies from his songs like in Hannibal were not the usual expected notes you hear in jazz songs. Even though unexpected they were beautiful and opened your mind. Those notes and melodies fit like a glove into the overall song.
Interesting. For me it's the late 60s Miles sound that amazes me. The complete silent way sessions with sessions like "the ghetto walk" or the album Miles in the Sky or Nefertiti. The catalogue of his is so vast.
Maybe I haven't opened my mind enough yet but the late 50s stuff is my favorite, particularly the Relaxin' album it has the perfect blend of melody and improv along with a vibe that the album name articulates very suitably
Lenny on the Turnpike in Danvers Mass right next to Beverly Massachusetts where I grew up. Other who headlined there: Jay Leno, Bette Midler and her pianist Barry Manilow.
JAZZ PLAYERS ARE GREAT PLAYERS BUT I'VE FOUND BY WORKING WITH THEM, many of them Overthink Music. My oldest Brother is a Musician and he Told me years ago there are 4 types of Musicians & they are as Follows: 1. SONGWRITER 2. STUDIO 3. LIVE 4. KARAOKE A Great Player with no Catalog is just That a Great Player with no Catalog. A musical genius is the Player that also Has a Catalog full of mostly hits.
And when creating improvisations, borrowing into what you know and translating it into your own style makes it all sound more professional and actually forces you to grow musically.
@@stanleybroniszewsky8538 Over Thinking isn't good it takes to Long to get things accomplished. Adding to what we already know makes Us better players no Doubt.
I have always thought of the black keys to be the butter notes because they make chords and combos that actually sound good. I find it funny Miles' definition is the opposite, as the white keys are just that to most people who have learned piano normally. It's good advice he gave, it really makes a difference. Opens up more space between octaves, you can easily switch key with playing the same melody when you get the hang of both.
He actually said "Don't play the BETTER notes"...cause at that time Herbie was outshining Miles when they played improvisational type arrangements...he wanted Hancock to play a more minimalist type "comping" similar to Bill Evans.
I grew up on Herby Hancock in the 70s. Living in the Chicago IL Key Valley, I was subjected to jazz and tent revivals . I am halfway to 70 yrs young and beginning now to revisit ~ The wonderful world of jazz
The full story is that herbie actually misheard miles! Miles actually told herbie not to play the BOTTOM notes (the white keys), but herbie still found meaning in the gibberish.
"Meaning in the gibberish" sounds like a cool name for a lofi jazz album
I've always heard that "bottom notes" referred to the low end of the piano, so that those notes wouldn't clash with the bassist's playing in that lower range
@@jaycielleThey mean the root note of each chord.
@@TheSilence1exactly, the root notes…
There are so many other notes to concern yourself with as the keyboard player.
He meant the low notes of the piano. Most likely because it can get in the way of the bass player
He does Miles' voice so perfectly.
Better than Miles ever could.
Excellent, just great.
As a bass player, it's an honor to read your comment Mr. Carter!
As a bassist, same here!
Miles was operating on a level higher than most of his contemporaries, a true genius 🙏🏾
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.
How would you know?
Yeah, he was pretty good for a trumpet player.
One genius giving another one the dope....
Miles, Herbie, Wayne...
THANK YOU, guys!
Bill Evans to brah, huge influence on Kind of Blue 💙
Herbie is legend too!
My long gone father was a jazz player. From the time I got home from school to going to bed, jazz playing on his HiFi. We had very little furniture but a huge collection of albums, reel to reel tapes and the HiFi.
Herbie and Miles. Two of the greatest.
Never get tired of listening to them.
There's a running underground competition amongst musicians on who can impersonate Miles voice and mannerisms best...
Yea, LOL they all are in competition: Jarrett, Holland, Hancock, Mclaughlin, DeJohnette, Miller, Carter, Liebman ...... the list goes on.
Truth be told, I've been trying to solo omitting the 3rd and the 7th for quite some time now, but it's close to impossible to make it sound organic. There's a chance that Herbie is the only one who's able to do that properly.
I love Miles but I appreciate him "backwards". I love more his later stuff because that's what Hancock meant. Even though Mile's sound was funky but so interesting and entertaining. Those unexpected notes and melodies from his songs like in Hannibal were not the usual expected notes you hear in jazz songs. Even though unexpected they were beautiful and opened your mind. Those notes and melodies fit like a glove into the overall song.
My journey w/ Miles began w/ the Amandla album and Hannibal is my favorite song on it!
Kind of Blue for me is his best as a trumpet player and We Want Miles as a band leader his later work was too slick for me tbh
Interesting. For me it's the late 60s Miles sound that amazes me. The complete silent way sessions with sessions like "the ghetto walk" or the album Miles in the Sky or Nefertiti. The catalogue of his is so vast.
Maybe I haven't opened my mind enough yet but the late 50s stuff is my favorite, particularly the Relaxin' album it has the perfect blend of melody and improv along with a vibe that the album name articulates very suitably
Miles philosophy is it's not what you play that matters ,it's what you don't play .
Miles Davis has influenced guided or fathered an incredible amount of young musicians. Ask Marcus Miller
Miles greatest protege...Herbie rocks.
Ive been on a steady diet of Herbie as of late, my how times in music have changed.
There’s another video of a musician making a mistake when with Miles and after throwing him a look, Miles played around the mistake.
Thanks for sharing Mr.HH
Bravo
Miles Davis is arguably the GOAT . He is too me, anyway. But Miles had MAD RESPECT for Herbie.
Miles probably thought "well, not what I meant, but good for you"
Lenny on the Turnpike in Danvers Mass right next to Beverly Massachusetts where I grew up. Other who headlined there: Jay Leno, Bette Midler and her pianist Barry Manilow.
So, stay out of the bass players way? Is that what he means? Like a rhythm guitar playing triads on the bottom three strings? Anybody?
If only he 'd just said: "Pardon Miles, the _what_ notes?
JAZZ PLAYERS ARE GREAT PLAYERS
BUT I'VE FOUND BY WORKING WITH
THEM, many of them Overthink Music.
My oldest Brother is a Musician and he
Told me years ago there are 4 types of
Musicians & they are as Follows:
1. SONGWRITER
2. STUDIO
3. LIVE
4. KARAOKE
A Great Player with no Catalog is just
That a Great Player with no Catalog.
A musical genius is the Player that also
Has a Catalog full of mostly hits.
And when creating improvisations, borrowing into what you know and translating it into your own style makes it all sound more professional and actually forces you to grow musically.
@@stanleybroniszewsky8538
Over Thinking isn't good it takes to
Long to get things accomplished.
Adding to what we already know makes
Us better players no Doubt.
Miles was often buttered.
Genius sighting
Thats some great advice
Holy crap
This is similar to Bill Evans' approach to playing. Omitting notes and using open chord voicings. Great minds think alike.
Not shabby. Congratulations on you understanding the comment of the great Miles Davis.
I have always thought of the black keys to be the butter notes because they make chords and combos that actually sound good. I find it funny Miles' definition is the opposite, as the white keys are just that to most people who have learned piano normally.
It's good advice he gave, it really makes a difference. Opens up more space between octaves, you can easily switch key with playing the same melody when you get the hang of both.
Miles was even a master minimalist in his advice 🤯
He is the truth 🙂
So goated
He actually said "Don't play the BETTER notes"...cause at that time Herbie was outshining Miles when they played improvisational type arrangements...he wanted Hancock to play a more minimalist type "comping" similar to Bill Evans.
Love it !
Beautiful ❤ - love HH - Thelonius took skipping notes 🎶 to the extreme…
By that standard, I’m the greatest ever since my current solos have zero notes.
@@HQBergeron That’s the difference between you and Thelonius - he knew when to skip and was a master of syncopation.
many years ago Herbie told the story
;;) ❤
I grew up on Herby Hancock in the 70s. Living in the Chicago IL Key Valley, I was subjected to jazz and tent revivals . I am halfway to 70 yrs young and beginning now to revisit ~ The wonderful world of jazz
And "Rockit" was born.....
I totally loved that video. It was strange to watch but also so entertaining.