Texans fan here. I was watching you guys this week to learn more about the Chargers, and I think you guys do an awesome job. You were really knowledgeable about our team as well. One more good draft with Harbaugh and I think you guys can take over that division!
Take over the west division ? Dont fan our delusional expectations . Try taking over a division with mahomes and reid in it. Good luck with the chiefs next week.
Thank you so much. Very nice of you to comment in support of the show. Best of luck to the Texans. Josh and I are huge Alabama fans so we love your Head Coach and W. Anderson.
Thanks guys!!! It was really fun to watch the podcast every week this last season!!! I am truly disappointed with this loss though. As much as I know we weren't that talented I didn't think we would lose today. Especially the embarrassing way they did. I would have been really happy with a win today and a chance to face KC! Oh well!!! As a Chargers fan I am used to disappointment but after the loss in Jacksonville 2 years ago I really thought this team would win at least one playoff game. Things are looking up. We have a terrific coach but next year I think the expectations will go up. I hope they make a real leap next season!!!
Thank you very much for your fair assessment and keeping it real all this season. I hope everyone in your family is O.K. Lest be hopeful for the better seasons to come!
You guys are what keeps bolts football alive pls keep it up I’ll be here all off season and let’s keep this thing rollin baby. Big ups to Bryan LFG Vikings
Great season. We don't have the horses yet. Don't trash Herbert, Roman, Harbaugh, Minter. Our skill players are the worst in the NFL. PERIOD. We have ONE WR , that's it. QJ is a coach/QB killer. Retool in the draft, make moves with lots of cap, get a couple of FAs. LOTS of veteran turnover coming, too. It was a horrific performance today. But we made the playoffs ..... NOW WE SUCK? Come on.
Love the show. Became a fan of it this year. Everything you are guys are saying is right in line with how I feel. A lot of Charger podcast are way too optimistic even after these disasters. Keep up the great content. Bolt up!
Glad to see bolt fam showed up at the game. I thought we got robbed on the derwin james int and stroud grounding no call. Lets get herbo some help. Overall it was a successful season! #boltup
I would love to argue with you but I don't have an explanation for what happened. I think he's a great but he was terrible when the team needed him most.
This wasn't chargering. Our offense got exposed against a great defense. This needed to happen. Otherwise management would've been fine keeping what we got instead of aggressively pursuing top weapons.
This was never our year. We knew about our deficiencies this off-season but performed better than expected thanks to great coaching and draft/budget free agents. But Herbert was depending guys like Chark, QJ and Dissly to make plays with unblocked rushers in his face. Against the leading sack duo and allpro Stingley. Sucks we went out like this but overall the future still looks bright cuz for once I trust the coach and gm.
We've seen this offense struggle many times all season. Runs for negative yards, 3 & outs, and scoreless halves. Herbert was able to overcome most of them but the playoffs is a different game. And I love Herbert but it sucks that we have to wait a whole year for a chance for him to silence the haters.
you know what I agree with you guys today’s loss didn’t hurt as much as the Jaguar lost did… but you’re right David a loss is a loss… we definitely have a lot to work on. We have a lot of moves that need to be made and we have a lot of guys that need to be cut and a lot of guys that need to be drafted. We have too many holes in our team. but with that said I’m pretty proud out of our team on how far we made it with what little we had. Thanks again boys. I appreciate you guys we win together we lose together. Go bolts.!!!!⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
He wasn't 100% at fault. The lack of receiver talent and interior line showed. Roman didn't help with predictable plays. Herbert is 50% at fault for sure, but hardly a choker. He had a terrible game, and unfortunately, it was yesterday.
You guys are going to have to look toward the draft. WRs aren't going to wanna play in the Greg Roman offense. This is what Lamar went through for four years, with Roman. Terrible passing scheme, predictable running game that only his running made unpredictable, Bottom 5 WR rooms.
I think Dissly did enough to be a tight end 2 for us next year. He earned a spot because he did WAY more then what he thought he would do. Our lack of receivers and interior line really showed. This was another wasted year for Herbert (he deserve a lot of blame last night as well). Let's be honest, we didn't expect to be in the playoffs this year. We just didn't want to lose like this, but it was inevitable due to our exposed weaknesses.
We can't build a "Run First" offense and not be able to run. Then when that Run First offense can't move on the ground we expect Herbert to throw. QJ is not him. We need a WR1.
Bolts gave stingley a great day. 2 interceptions, forced a turn over on downs.. why go at this years All Pro corner back,? Couldn't we know he's a guy to avoid?
I have fought for Herbert tooth and nail since he’s been on the team. I know that the interior lineman and the WR/TE room is not a strength. However, no team has a completely perfect roster front to back. Especially with the defense winning the turnover battle and putting up a fight so strongly up front and handing you multiple turnovers and possessions. They should have bare minimum punched in at least one of those opportunities if not more. Herbert is going to get ripped to shreds all offseason and honestly longer than that and deservedly so I have no excuses for him this time. I am overall proud of this team’s progress I am not ashamed I am looking forward to the future. We’ve got a boatload of draft picks and a fortune of cap space to work with to turn this team into the perennial juggernaut that we all dream and envision this team being. It’s going to be an offseason of excitement with the moves that are coming in the near future roster wise and an offseason of pain for the fans having to deal with haters in the media and at large squawking at us for over a year here.
Herbert is basically the AFC's Dak Prescott. Great stats in Regular season only to be meltdown in playoffs. Doesn't mean it can't be changed tho. Lamar IMO was like that before the 2023 season and seems a more poised playoff QB now. Maybe with weapons, RB and Oline Herbert will finally justify the "Elite QB" status some crowned him with
@@vitigaymer1053honestly Jackson & Allen are in the same category as Herbert right now. If you can’t get to the Super Bowl then you aren’t a playoff success.
@@YoungMan9427 man, I want to be as supportive as possible I truly do, but Herbert can’t even win a playoff game that everyone and their mother thought the Chargers were going to win. He can’t be in the same conversation with this game I’m sorry I’m a big Chargers fan and I can’t say it
@@ca_renegadeI’m still not over that first interception he threw. That’s what turned the game around. First I don’t know what he threw it to QJ. We had just gotten a pick in their territory and the very next play he throws that pick. He wasn’t even open in fact he was double covered. Not to mention it was a cross body throw and everyone knows QJ can’t make a contested catch
Don’t be too hard on Herbert, the Texans have done this all season. They forced Goff to throw 5 int’s, Jordon Love 3, Tua threw 3 and had a fumble. Their edge rushers are top in nfl.
Texan fan here . I think even a mid wr2 would help spread and take attention away from ladd . Herbert needs more protection . Lots of potential though i dont think tee is leaving cincy
Good take by Dave front office needs to upgrade the team in all areas no sugar coating it defense played well The offense needs an overhaul note on Herbert from the past I saw Fouts throw a bunch of picks against the Houston Oilers he bounced back I think he will.
Yessir I said the same thing that first pick is what turned the game around. We had just gotten a pick on their side of the field and on the very next play Justin throws it right back to them
@224ngc I seem to remember that happening regardless. So taking Alt didn't resolve that. Can't win when you can put points on the scoreboard. If Herbert had some people with hands then maybe wouldn't have to hold onto the ball trying to find Ladd. Our run game scared nobody. Not saying Alt isn't a future HOF'r kind of guy, but when you loose every single weapon both at RB ( Ekler may have lost a step, but he could make up for it in blocking and his hands) Every WR except a 3 or 4th receiver in Palmer. You need to replace them. SMH at Harbaugh infatuated in Herberts skillset only to hand off snd scramble for his life haha.
No, not everyone is talking trash. Football savvy people know we have a good team missing good (to great) players in key positions. The reason QJ looked bad, the reason Will Dissly looked bad, the reason Herbert looked terrible, was the same reason Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and other great QBs looked bad at times, poor offensive line protection. Our defense did great most of the game even without any help from the offense. We need at very least, good Offensive Linemen, but if they are great, that much better. Thank you Bozeman, thank you Salyer, Pipkin (and I would even add Zion but I'll give him a pass today) for your 2024 services. We need to draft (or via free agency) a great Center and at very least, one great Guard. Yes, we do need other positions, but Offensive Linemen is HUGE to the improvement of an 11-7 season with a terrible end. Herbert was either sacked or pressured all game long, even when we scored 6 points at the beginning, he was pressured, hence the reason we scored FGs and not TDs. Again, every QB, whether bad, good, or great will not have a good game if your O-line can't pass-block the rushing defensive players. It is a great thing that those crucifying Herbert are just casual fans and it will be Hortiz and Harbaugh making future decisions when it comes to Charger Football.
Thank you for this. I am so sick of the Herbert hatred. You can be critical of a player without vilifying them the way people have. He's not the only player on the team but he's the one that gets the hate.
You all were spot on with your analysis/criticisms. Herbert had probably his worst game of his career, but his weapons and the IOL did him no favors. That said, the offensive gameplan was pee wee football simple. I dont care if your receivers can't get open. Scheme them open! No quick slants (like the Texans!), no designed QB runs, no RB screens. And to top it off, Roman's play calling is atrocious (3 straight runs up the middle or 3 straight bombs downfield, etc). We'll see what happens after next year, but I imagine it will be more of the same from Roman... probably better because i expect there to be more talent on the team, but unless Roman reinvents himself, we may be talking about Harbaugh's biggest flaw: his blind loyalty to old friends. BTFU! Looking forward to April (sigh).
The play calling needs to change 360 next season. Bring in more screen plays, quick passes RPO, etc.. Dropping back for 2-3 seconds waiting for receivers to get open no longer works in today's game.
Chargers regress next year. Herbert's confidence is shaken badly after his 2 awful playoff losses. His career will show that, he will always be a loser in the biggest games.
We as fans need to rip him, let him hear it. Either he rises to the occasion or like you said he regresses. If he isn’t they guy then release him and draft a new QB
I always say beware of getting what you asked for. Any team making the playoffs is a good team above 500. So I expected that this could happen. This is the first year .lots of work to do.
@@guitarfool3881unfortunately he’s on a rookie contract. We just need to get more receivers so he becomes like a 4th string receiver and never sees the field. then after next year we can release him
Herbert will get 100% crucified by media and fans until next year. That's a LONG TIME. It comes with that massive salary. I hope he's ready. The Golden Boy is now badly tarnished.
We are all bummed out but we forget that this was a successful year to go in playoffs with this team.No receivers,no backs , no interior line.We lucky Herbert survived that game.This offense Cordinator can’t have him roll out or make him run,is more likely he gets hurt just standing back there and don’t have who to throw the ball to.We can not just blame Herbert,everyone should be accountable including coaches.Let’s see how it’s next year in Harbought second try
Cant believe you guys are saying youd rather have bowers over Alt! Alt was phenomenal this year and this line was still bad. Can you imagine how bad that line would have been without him? We definitely dont win 11 games without Alt. Herbert probably would have been on IR by week 8. Bowers is amazing but if this season proved anything its that the offensive line is more important than anything. With a good line we can dictate the game, we need a legit veteran center and draft a guard and we will be set! (After signing a WR like Higgins and drafting the TE from Michigan or Penn state).
In my eyes it’s a win-win. You either end up with a perennial all-pro tackle or tight end. Alt was fantastic, I want to see what options Herbert has next season because right now Bowers looks like the next Kelce.
It's funny, it was kind of a bye week for the Chargers. I'm trying to remind myself that Harbaugh was holding this thing together with bubble gum and toothpicks. The defense played well enough to win, but the offense was terrible. They'll kill the draft next year, and be improved next year. Herbet is still young, he has a long career ahead of him, and I think a lot of good years ahead for us.
You must be a raiders fan ,be careful not to bite your tongue.Remember they said the same about Payton Manning ,John Elway and other greats,keep hating.
1:16 Two things I learned today. QJ Is who i thought he was. Even Herbert can be the cause of us losing. This is probably the worst game I've seen him play, EVER. In high school, college or NFL.
fucking sick to my stomach......weve never lost a goddamn wildcard game, especially not a blowout like this. its year FIVE, and our Qb jut can't fucking win a goddamn playoff game.....WTF is going on??? Herbert deserves 10000% the shitstorm of hate coming his way from the haters.
Herbert is a great qb and obviously this loss is not completely on him. No run game, IOL getting beat on 4 man rushes, and only 1 WR that shows up accounting for over 80% of offensive production. That all being said, you cannot have the worst performance of your career in that spot. 1 pick was not on him, the rest were bad throws or terrible decisions. Herbert is far more accurate, decisive, and a better decision maker than he showed tonight. It just sucks that we have to wait 8 months for him to try and prove it again. I mean come on, Herbert throws 4 int's in one game and 3 all season? Don't know if it's the pressure or just having no weapons around him, but he has to be better.
@@Yourrrroutahere the int’s themselves are terrible yes, but that doesn’t mean he’s not top 5. Burrow has had 4, Allen and Mahomes have both had 3. It’s the moment/ spot in the playoffs that is the issue.
@@cnance3564 yeah exactly and that’s why he’s not top 5 and you most likely will never win anything with him as your qb 5 years no playoff wins no 1st team no MVP just great for social media
Herbert is the new Rivers, he’ll never win. Herbert should’ve been traded last season, they need to trade him to the patriots for the #1 pick, dump that salary.
So I went back and watched the interceptions, one while slightly behind dissly it hit his hands and then was picked 75% dissly 25% Herbert. One was over thrown but QJ could have batted it away if he wasn’t inept. Another one was under thrown that’s all on Herbert 100% as well as the other over throw. With this being said yes Herbert didn’t play well at all, but I seen him make some miraculous throws as well that maybe only he Josh Allen and mahomes can make. He left it all out on the field he was getting his ass kicked. This is the worst team he will have under harbaugh the future is bright. This team technically overachieved by winning 11 games and making the post season as the 5th seed this season was ultimately a success. Ik it’s been 6 years since we’ve seen our boys win a playoff game but we’re about to see them win many playoff games now. This was good for harbaugh and Herbert get this out of the system now, look at it be critical learn from it and then flush it. Bolt up boys and stay frosty the sun will rise again tomorrow and the day will be attacked with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ⚡️ ⬆️ brothers stay 🥶
If Charger fans are ok with entertaining 10-win seasons with zero Superbowl's than Justin Herbert is your guy. If you actually want to win Championships, then they need to get rid of this loser ASAP. Even with weapons around him, Herbert won't win big games because he's a Beta QB. We need an Alpha who wants to win, not this Herbert loser.
@@chadtravis7832 Quarterbacks are incredibly difficult to find, look at the Raiders, do you want to be them? The Bolts need to run the ball and protect Herbert. They'll improve through the draft and free agency. Just be patient. Andy Reid took over the Chiefs in 2013. It doesn't happen overnight.
We as fans gotta stop with our next year, next year delusions 😭 until I see them beat a good team next season I’m silent, not getting my hopes up. Now to get heartbroken from the padres 😅
The offensive line had most of the fault. 3 of 4 sacks came from the interior. Herbert is to blame too but most of the offense has to be blamed. No WR other than Mcconkey showed up. I'm optimistic for the future and also believe this will be the worst roster Harbaugh has. He had a bunch of one year band aid contracts. I give Herbert one more year to prove he can win in the playoffs. Also, the Jaguars loss was worse, being up 27 points and losing is way worse.
Food for thought 🧠 Mathew Stafford is 36/37 Years Old & He Didn’t Win his FIRST Playoff Game until he was 34 Years Old 👈 Herbert is 26/27 so the Future is stiil bright for Herbert, Harbaugh & the Los Angeles Chargers. Harbaugh FIRST Year of his 5 YEAR Contract improved the Team with a 11-6 Season Record with a OFFENSIVE SKELETON ROSTER. Los Angeles Chargers have good Cap Space for this upcoming 2025 Season With Harbaugh & Herbert under Contract for the next several Years The Future should be good. Keep Battling! 🎺 Da Da Dah Dah Da Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈
Love Chargers since I started following football around 1983 Like all the players have a jersey with 54 on which when I got it was Billy Ray Smith Just hope J Herbert is not the Nate Keating of QB’s Go Chargers ⚡️⚡️⚡️
36:01 I like Ladd very much and will be in league for a long time if he can stay healthy. However he's not a 1 unless he can bulk up and not lose a step. He's a def 2 or slot guy.
It’s so predictable man as fans we try to stay optimistic about our team players but when is this team going to learn about the injury prone players it’s just annoying at this point. Not knocking on the players themselves but as a team us fans are frustrated with the endless cycle of b.s feel good story line injury prone players. Just sign reliable productive players period… no more injury prone players it always comes back to hurt us can’t keep repeating the same mistakes when it comes to injury prone players just because they are cap friendly and have feel good b.s stories. At the end the Team struggles because of this…..🧠
Well that sucked to go down like that, but I’m proud of them to just to get hear in year one of Harbaugh. Like Dave said this will be the worst roster under Harbaugh. The future is bright. Bolt up
Justin Herbert will be fine 2-3 of those Interceptions weren’t Herbert fault they were bobbled by the Catching Receiving players. & food for thought 🧠 Mathew Stafford is 37 Years Old & He Didn’t Win his FIRST Playoff Game until he was 34 Years Old 👈 Herbert is 26 so the Future is stiil bright for Herbert, Harbaugh & the Los Angeles Chargers. Harbaugh FIRST Year of his 5 YEAR Contract improved the Team with a 11-6 Season Record with a OFFENSIVE SKELETON ROSTER. Los Angeles Chargers have good Cap Space for this upcoming 2025 Season With Harbaugh & Herbert under Contract for the next several Years The Future should be good. Keep Battling! 🎺 Da Da Dah Dah Da Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈
Y’all don’t be so sad Rex Ryan predicted this would be like a bye game for y’all and the national media said you would slaughter the Texans and CJ Stroud it’s ok there’s always next year I hope everyone’s home is safe and sound see ya next year..🤗✌️
11:41 Whoa there Dave. BIG difference when comparing Hawk Tua to Herbert. First and foremost Tua has weapons. Herbert Has a rookie 5ft nothing 100lb wet WR that plays like a champ, but those two can't make the run game respectful. Tua is a fraud, if we had Miami receiving Corp, be lighting up the scoreboard. Sorry I left Miami to come here because of the sole reason they drafted that pretender instead of Herbert haha
All i can say is if they have to spend tons of money on all world players so the so called Elite Herbert can win a PO game then they should make him take a huge pay cut. maybe just spend lots of money on big time players and sign a Joe Flacco type of QB and stop overpaying for a overhyped average QB
Regardless of the outcome you should be proud of your team coming from a raider fan to have that huge turn around in 1 year with a couple more weapons you guys will be even better next year unlike what i deal with a bunch novelty fashion statements with our organization and its dumb fans.
Texans fan here. I was watching you guys this week to learn more about the Chargers, and I think you guys do an awesome job. You were really knowledgeable about our team as well. One more good draft with Harbaugh and I think you guys can take over that division!
Beat the Chiefs for us brother, I just want to see ANYONE beat those mfers at this point. Can't wait for our rematch next season at SoFi!
Take over the west division ? Dont fan our delusional expectations . Try taking over a division with mahomes and reid in it. Good luck with the chiefs next week.
Thank you, Anthony!
Thank you so much. Very nice of you to comment in support of the show. Best of luck to the Texans. Josh and I are huge Alabama fans so we love your Head Coach and W. Anderson.
HUGE part of watching chargers football is this podcast. Thanks boys hell of a season
Thank you brother!
Thank you so much for the kind words.
Justin Herbert with one of the all time worst playoff performances EVER. I miss Philly Rivers.
He's Elite though! Like staley was a guru. LOL
Thanks guys!!! It was really fun to watch the podcast every week this last season!!! I am truly disappointed with this loss though. As much as I know we weren't that talented I didn't think we would lose today. Especially the embarrassing way they did. I would have been really happy with a win today and a chance to face KC! Oh well!!! As a Chargers fan I am used to disappointment but after the loss in Jacksonville 2 years ago I really thought this team would win at least one playoff game. Things are looking up. We have a terrific coach but next year I think the expectations will go up. I hope they make a real leap next season!!!
Thanks for sticking with us this season. This team will be revamped and ready to roll next season. I can’t wait to see how Hortiz changes this up.
I 100% feel the same way.
Thank you very much for your fair assessment and keeping it real all this season. I hope everyone in your family is O.K. Lest be hopeful for the better seasons to come!
Thanks Ricardo. We’ll be here all off season too.
You guys are what keeps bolts football alive pls keep it up I’ll be here all off season and let’s keep this thing rollin baby. Big ups to Bryan LFG Vikings
Thank you so much.
Great season though boys, thanks for the great content! Looking forward to the draft and free agency! SB 2025!
Thank you!
Thank you guys all year for the laughs. I'll for sure be catching all the offseason shows. Y'all ruined me for other Chargers podcasts 😂
I'm so sad, I think I'll have another drink.
I will never bet on the Chargers again…🤦♂️
@@ShillOutBro its ok, mario.
Great season. We don't have the horses yet. Don't trash Herbert, Roman, Harbaugh, Minter.
Our skill players are the worst in the NFL. PERIOD. We have ONE WR , that's it. QJ is a coach/QB killer.
Retool in the draft, make moves with lots of cap, get a couple of FAs. LOTS of veteran turnover coming, too.
It was a horrific performance today. But we made the playoffs ..... NOW WE SUCK? Come on.
It was a bad game but next year’s roster will be better. I can’t wait to see what Hortiz does this offseason
We suck
Love the show. Became a fan of it this year. Everything you are guys are saying is right in line with how I feel. A lot of Charger podcast are way too optimistic even after these disasters. Keep up the great content. Bolt up!
Thank you so much. We want to the team to win too but we aren't going to sugarcoat storylines.
Love this show & my team!!! ⚡️⚡️ Mario thank you for all the editing you do!! 🙌 & sending all the prayers to Bryan/Brian- Go Vikings! 💜
Thank you supporting us the entire season.
Glad to see bolt fam showed up at the game. I thought we got robbed on the derwin james int and stroud grounding no call. Lets get herbo some help. Overall it was a successful season! #boltup
Yep, can’t wait to see what the future holds for this team
I didn’t make the live but you guys have given me solace when I had none. Thank you
Thanks for always being with us, Sean.
I’m off the Herbert train boys
i’m done defending him that’s for sure , until he proves otherwise , he can’t win against good teams / big games . He’s over paid too
@@vileproductions8511 This was his 2nd big game and you're throwing in the towel ??? GTFO ! Bye
Yup me too. He better take a pay cut
@@mr.reservation8 Bye 👋
I would love to argue with you but I don't have an explanation for what happened. I think he's a great but he was terrible when the team needed him most.
An absolute embarrassment..
This wasn't chargering. Our offense got exposed against a great defense. This needed to happen. Otherwise management would've been fine keeping what we got instead of aggressively pursuing top weapons.
Positive spin on a squandered potential playoff run
This was never our year. We knew about our deficiencies this off-season but performed better than expected thanks to great coaching and draft/budget free agents. But Herbert was depending guys like Chark, QJ and Dissly to make plays with unblocked rushers in his face. Against the leading sack duo and allpro Stingley. Sucks we went out like this but overall the future still looks bright cuz for once I trust the coach and gm.
Win or lose management was going to give Justin new weapons. The Texans defense is good but they aren’t as good as the Chargers made them look.
We've seen this offense struggle many times all season. Runs for negative yards, 3 & outs, and scoreless halves. Herbert was able to overcome most of them but the playoffs is a different game. And I love Herbert but it sucks that we have to wait a whole year for a chance for him to silence the haters.
Great defense?! Stop it!
Thanks for this.
you know what I agree with you guys today’s loss didn’t hurt as much as the Jaguar lost did… but you’re right David a loss is a loss… we definitely have a lot to work on. We have a lot of moves that need to be made and we have a lot of guys that need to be cut and a lot of guys that need to be drafted. We have too many holes in our team. but with that said I’m pretty proud out of our team on how far we made it with what little we had. Thanks again boys. I appreciate you guys we win together we lose together. Go bolts.!!!!⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Thank you Donald.
Gotta call herbert for who he truly is, a generationally talented choker. I’m surprised he can even eat without choking on something
He wasn't 100% at fault. The lack of receiver talent and interior line showed. Roman didn't help with predictable plays. Herbert is 50% at fault for sure, but hardly a choker. He had a terrible game, and unfortunately, it was yesterday.
Damn, tough room.
well guys been fun thanks for the entertainment all season, I'm shedding myself of everything football until the draft no more Charger videos for me
Thanks for sticking with us. I’ll see you soon
@@joshpalet enjoy your new life congrats on the nuptials
You'll be back before the draft. You can go without the NFL for 4 months. It's impossible.
Herbert improved this year in one thing. I dont recall the defensive line batting down balls thrown over the middle of line this season
Perhaps though the middle of our line didnt slow their tackles enough that they gave up trying to get to herbert, and pause to bat passes down.
You guys are going to have to look toward the draft. WRs aren't going to wanna play in the Greg Roman offense. This is what Lamar went through for four years, with Roman. Terrible passing scheme, predictable running game that only his running made unpredictable, Bottom 5 WR rooms.
I think Dissly did enough to be a tight end 2 for us next year. He earned a spot because he did WAY more then what he thought he would do. Our lack of receivers and interior line really showed. This was another wasted year for Herbert (he deserve a lot of blame last night as well). Let's be honest, we didn't expect to be in the playoffs this year. We just didn't want to lose like this, but it was inevitable due to our exposed weaknesses.
😭😭I was at the game left when they went up two scores.
We can't build a "Run First" offense and not be able to run. Then when that Run First offense can't move on the ground we expect Herbert to throw. QJ is not him. We need a WR1.
Only the Eagles and Ravens could actually run a run first offense and even that option will be over in a few years. This is a passing league.
HERBERT finally above .500 regular season now in 0-2 playoff hole, slander going to be merciless
Yep
How Is it slander if it’s true? 🤔
Bolts gave stingley a great day. 2 interceptions, forced a turn over on downs.. why go at this years All Pro corner back,? Couldn't we know he's a guy to avoid?
@@14kindred Right? Makes no sense.
I have fought for Herbert tooth and nail since he’s been on the team. I know that the interior lineman and the WR/TE room is not a strength. However, no team has a completely perfect roster front to back. Especially with the defense winning the turnover battle and putting up a fight so strongly up front and handing you multiple turnovers and possessions. They should have bare minimum punched in at least one of those opportunities if not more. Herbert is going to get ripped to shreds all offseason and honestly longer than that and deservedly so I have no excuses for him this time.
I am overall proud of this team’s progress I am not ashamed I am looking forward to the future. We’ve got a boatload of draft picks and a fortune of cap space to work with to turn this team into the perennial juggernaut that we all dream and envision this team being.
It’s going to be an offseason of excitement with the moves that are coming in the near future roster wise and an offseason of pain for the fans having to deal with haters in the media and at large squawking at us for over a year here.
Herbert is basically the AFC's Dak Prescott.
Great stats in Regular season only to be meltdown in playoffs.
Doesn't mean it can't be changed tho. Lamar IMO was like that before the 2023 season and seems a more poised playoff QB now.
Maybe with weapons, RB and Oline Herbert will finally justify the "Elite QB" status some crowned him with
@@vitigaymer1053honestly Jackson & Allen are in the same category as Herbert right now. If you can’t get to the Super Bowl then you aren’t a playoff success.
Awfull game ! Not the end of the world . GO CHARGERS !!!
@@YoungMan9427 man, I want to be as supportive as possible I truly do, but Herbert can’t even win a playoff game that everyone and their mother thought the Chargers were going to win. He can’t be in the same conversation with this game I’m sorry I’m a big Chargers fan and I can’t say it
@@ca_renegadeI’m still not over that first interception he threw. That’s what turned the game around. First I don’t know what he threw it to QJ. We had just gotten a pick in their territory and the very next play he throws that pick. He wasn’t even open in fact he was double covered. Not to mention it was a cross body throw and everyone knows QJ can’t make a contested catch
Don’t be too hard on Herbert, the Texans have done this all season. They forced Goff to throw 5 int’s, Jordon Love 3, Tua threw 3 and had a fumble. Their edge rushers are top in nfl.
Loser take.
Pain. Just pain. Pay Higgins whatever tf he wants. Don’t even question it.
100%
Texan fan here . I think even a mid wr2 would help spread and take attention away from ladd . Herbert needs more protection . Lots of potential though i dont think tee is leaving cincy
@@SpaceCityBallers713stop lying to these people 😂. Herbert is a choke artist. Great game by you guys today. We will see yaw next week in KC 👍🏽👍🏽
@@Mr.Hall3850 😂🤣😒
Good take by Dave front office needs to upgrade the team in all areas no sugar coating it defense played well The offense needs an overhaul note on Herbert from the past I saw Fouts throw a bunch of picks against the Houston Oilers he bounced back I think he will.
Justin Herbert is the optimal QB when conditions are optimal
Exactly he can’t cary a team when shit hits the fan
I hope that he’s able to will this team to wins going forward
Same for any other QB.
@@fredcano7310not true lol
@@Jwan_solo completely true
I went to game I’m sad but I’m still a bolt ⚡️ and the trainers gave my son mcconkeys gloves
That's awesome.
Time to reflect, Herbert was still able to bring this roster to a playoffs. We don’t have the dudes, PERIOD!
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This loss worse then the Jags loss,NO beat down is good!
Herbie and Roman stunk it up.
Add harbaugh for his picks, trades, and free agents and keeping bosa and QJ
Idk how the chargers bounce back from this hopefully next season is better 🤦🏾♂️⚡️🆙
They’ll bounce back.
I think when it comes to Justin. He has a hard time getting out of his play book. And doing what he knows needs to be done
I don't know what happened in this game. He looked one way for 17 games and then all of sudden he looked like Easton Stick.
That 1st INT and 3rd and 16 were Killers !!! They were not winning a SB this year anyway . On to the draft !!!
GO CHARGERS !!!
Yessir I said the same thing that first pick is what turned the game around. We had just gotten a pick on their side of the field and on the very next play Justin throws it right back to them
Be a worst than 5 like this years. Be a 20 something. Tougher schedule now too coming.
4:36 We need to go hard @ Higgins, Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams.
37:04 Dave 💯 no hesitation Bowers all day every day.
Not sure of that if QB is on his back no completions ⚡️⚡️⚡️ Go Chargers
@224ngc I seem to remember that happening regardless. So taking Alt didn't resolve that. Can't win when you can put points on the scoreboard. If Herbert had some people with hands then maybe wouldn't have to hold onto the ball trying to find Ladd. Our run game scared nobody. Not saying Alt isn't a future HOF'r kind of guy, but when you loose every single weapon both at RB ( Ekler may have lost a step, but he could make up for it in blocking and his hands)
Every WR except a 3 or 4th receiver in Palmer. You need to replace them. SMH at Harbaugh infatuated in Herberts skillset only to hand off snd scramble for his life haha.
No, not everyone is talking trash. Football savvy people know we have a good team missing good (to great) players in key positions. The reason QJ looked bad, the reason Will Dissly looked bad, the reason Herbert looked terrible, was the same reason Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and other great QBs looked bad at times, poor offensive line protection. Our defense did great most of the game even without any help from the offense. We need at very least, good Offensive Linemen, but if they are great, that much better. Thank you Bozeman, thank you Salyer, Pipkin (and I would even add Zion but I'll give him a pass today) for your 2024 services. We need to draft (or via free agency) a great Center and at very least, one great Guard. Yes, we do need other positions, but Offensive Linemen is HUGE to the improvement of an 11-7 season with a terrible end. Herbert was either sacked or pressured all game long, even when we scored 6 points at the beginning, he was pressured, hence the reason we scored FGs and not TDs. Again, every QB, whether bad, good, or great will not have a good game if your O-line can't pass-block the rushing defensive players. It is a great thing that those crucifying Herbert are just casual fans and it will be Hortiz and Harbaugh making future decisions when it comes to Charger Football.
Thank you for this. I am so sick of the Herbert hatred. You can be critical of a player without vilifying them the way people have. He's not the only player on the team but he's the one that gets the hate.
You all were spot on with your analysis/criticisms. Herbert had probably his worst game of his career, but his weapons and the IOL did him no favors. That said, the offensive gameplan was pee wee football simple. I dont care if your receivers can't get open. Scheme them open! No quick slants (like the Texans!), no designed QB runs, no RB screens. And to top it off, Roman's play calling is atrocious (3 straight runs up the middle or 3 straight bombs downfield, etc).
We'll see what happens after next year, but I imagine it will be more of the same from Roman... probably better because i expect there to be more talent on the team, but unless Roman reinvents himself, we may be talking about Harbaugh's biggest flaw: his blind loyalty to old friends.
BTFU! Looking forward to April (sigh).
Herbert is not mentally tough enough. Fool me once, shame on you…
The play calling needs to change 360 next season. Bring in more screen plays, quick passes RPO, etc.. Dropping back for 2-3 seconds waiting for receivers to get open no longer works in today's game.
They need talent on the offensive side of the ball to run a real offensive playbook.
Chargers regress next year. Herbert's confidence is shaken badly after his 2 awful playoff losses. His career will show that, he will always be a loser in the biggest games.
wouldn’t be suprised at this point . i’m done defending him
We as fans need to rip him, let him hear it. Either he rises to the occasion or like you said he regresses. If he isn’t they guy then release him and draft a new QB
Damn, as a sports fan I disagree.
Yes sir soft.what a embarrassment to us fans🤷
I always say beware of getting what you asked for. Any team making the playoffs is a good team above 500. So I expected that this could happen. This is the first year .lots of work to do.
They’ll clean up this roster
Fact is ..your O Line was TRASH ... Justin Herbert was running for his life ...
I wish Herbert was running. He was staying in the pocket taking big hits
he wasn’t running at all he stood there like a tree
Don't forget QJ !!! A Receiver that can't catch 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 PLEASE , NO QJ Next year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@guitarfool3881unfortunately he’s on a rookie contract. We just need to get more receivers so he becomes like a 4th string receiver and never sees the field. then after next year we can release him
@@408Charger They can trade him . Maybe for a 12 pack ???
Herbert will get 100% crucified by media and fans until next year. That's a LONG TIME.
It comes with that massive salary. I hope he's ready. The Golden Boy is now badly tarnished.
He’ll be back
We are all bummed out but we forget that this was a successful year to go in playoffs with this team.No receivers,no backs , no interior line.We lucky Herbert survived that game.This offense Cordinator can’t have him roll out or make him run,is more likely he gets hurt just standing back there and don’t have who to throw the ball to.We can not just blame Herbert,everyone should be accountable including coaches.Let’s see how it’s next year in Harbought second try
Cant believe you guys are saying youd rather have bowers over Alt! Alt was phenomenal this year and this line was still bad. Can you imagine how bad that line would have been without him? We definitely dont win 11 games without Alt. Herbert probably would have been on IR by week 8. Bowers is amazing but if this season proved anything its that the offensive line is more important than anything. With a good line we can dictate the game, we need a legit veteran center and draft a guard and we will be set! (After signing a WR like Higgins and drafting the TE from Michigan or Penn state).
In my eyes it’s a win-win. You either end up with a perennial all-pro tackle or tight end. Alt was fantastic, I want to see what options Herbert has next season because right now Bowers looks like the next Kelce.
It's funny, it was kind of a bye week for the Chargers. I'm trying to remind myself that Harbaugh was holding this thing together with bubble gum and toothpicks. The defense played well enough to win, but the offense was terrible. They'll kill the draft next year, and be improved next year. Herbet is still young, he has a long career ahead of him, and I think a lot of good years ahead for us.
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Guys it was a good year
We gotta get Tee Higgins and focus on LOS in the draft
I’d take Higgins in a second
Yall gotta change yall name to the chokers😂😂😂
Your mom chokes on you know what.😅😂
You must be a raiders fan ,be careful not to bite your tongue.Remember they said the same about Payton Manning ,John Elway and other greats,keep hating.
@JoseLuisRosas-o4d he's a scrub.
I am not a Chargers fan, but I thought the Chargers would win this game.
Chargers gonna Charger 🤷♂️
Unfortunately
1:16 Two things I learned today. QJ Is who i thought he was. Even Herbert can be the cause of us losing. This is probably the worst game I've seen him play, EVER. In high school, college or NFL.
I hope the coaching staff and the gm look real closely to this game film. So they know how needs to be replaced
They will
fucking sick to my stomach......weve never lost a goddamn wildcard game, especially not a blowout like this. its year FIVE, and our Qb jut can't fucking win a goddamn playoff game.....WTF is going on??? Herbert deserves 10000% the shitstorm of hate coming his way from the haters.
Yaw lost a wildcard game to Trevor Lawrence and the jags. And it was more embarrassing than this game. wtf are u talking about?
And who hates the chargers? 😂 more like pity bro. There’s nothing to hate at all
Herbert is a great qb and obviously this loss is not completely on him. No run game, IOL getting beat on 4 man rushes, and only 1 WR that shows up accounting for over 80% of offensive production. That all being said, you cannot have the worst performance of your career in that spot. 1 pick was not on him, the rest were bad throws or terrible decisions. Herbert is far more accurate, decisive, and a better decision maker than he showed tonight. It just sucks that we have to wait 8 months for him to try and prove it again. I mean come on, Herbert throws 4 int's in one game and 3 all season? Don't know if it's the pressure or just having no weapons around him, but he has to be better.
It’s on him 4 int is abysmal he will never be a top 5 qb
@@Yourrrroutahere the int’s themselves are terrible yes, but that doesn’t mean he’s not top 5. Burrow has had 4, Allen and Mahomes have both had 3. It’s the moment/ spot in the playoffs that is the issue.
@@cnance3564 yeah exactly and that’s why he’s not top 5 and you most likely will never win anything with him as your qb 5 years no playoff wins no 1st team no MVP just great for social media
@@Yourrrroutahere the sample size is not big enough to make that broad of a statement. He’s not in year 12, it’s year 5.
Herbert is not great,he is a good,solid QB
Herbert is an enigma! Shiny Penny!
Herbert is the new Rivers, he’ll never win. Herbert should’ve been traded last season, they need to trade him to the patriots for the #1 pick, dump that salary.
We need Herbert. The Patriots already have a QB. I guarantee the Titans would give up the number one pick for Herbert.
Laddiator the lone bright spot on offense, also how many of four picks on Herbert?
All of them
The Dissly drop was a perfect pass
So I went back and watched the interceptions, one while slightly behind dissly it hit his hands and then was picked 75% dissly 25% Herbert. One was over thrown but QJ could have batted it away if he wasn’t inept. Another one was under thrown that’s all on Herbert 100% as well as the other over throw. With this being said yes Herbert didn’t play well at all, but I seen him make some miraculous throws as well that maybe only he Josh Allen and mahomes can make. He left it all out on the field he was getting his ass kicked. This is the worst team he will have under harbaugh the future is bright. This team technically overachieved by winning 11 games and making the post season as the 5th seed this season was ultimately a success. Ik it’s been 6 years since we’ve seen our boys win a playoff game but we’re about to see them win many playoff games now. This was good for harbaugh and Herbert get this out of the system now, look at it be critical learn from it and then flush it. Bolt up boys and stay frosty the sun will rise again tomorrow and the day will be attacked with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ⚡️ ⬆️ brothers stay 🥶
Didn’t see this coming.
If Charger fans are ok with entertaining 10-win seasons with zero Superbowl's than Justin Herbert is your guy. If you actually want to win Championships, then they need to get rid of this loser ASAP. Even with weapons around him, Herbert won't win big games because he's a Beta QB. We need an Alpha who wants to win, not this Herbert loser.
NOT TRUE !!! He's 0-2 in the post season and he's a bum , REALLY ??? Bad game , but not the end of the world .
He did get over being under . 500 in his career in the nfl. I guess hes won , what 2 or 3 more than hes lost as a charger.
Wow that pick 6 justin threw with under 20 seconds in the third quarter. My Gosh, it was a stinkaroo pass.
@@chadtravis7832 Quarterbacks are incredibly difficult to find, look at the Raiders, do you want to be them? The Bolts need to run the ball and protect Herbert. They'll improve through the draft and free agency. Just be patient. Andy Reid took over the Chiefs in 2013. It doesn't happen overnight.
18:28 salyer needs to go as well.
We as fans gotta stop with our next year, next year delusions 😭 until I see them beat a good team next season I’m silent, not getting my hopes up. Now to get heartbroken from the padres 😅
The offensive line had most of the fault. 3 of 4 sacks came from the interior. Herbert is to blame too but most of the offense has to be blamed. No WR other than Mcconkey showed up. I'm optimistic for the future and also believe this will be the worst roster Harbaugh has. He had a bunch of one year band aid contracts. I give Herbert one more year to prove he can win in the playoffs. Also, the Jaguars loss was worse, being up 27 points and losing is way worse.
Offensive line.
19:03 I sure hope not Josh. Didn't want him to begin with. I knew the second he was hired this offense was doomed, especially Herberts career.
Mack retiring dammit
Food for thought 🧠
Mathew Stafford is 36/37 Years Old &
He Didn’t Win his FIRST Playoff Game
until he was 34 Years Old 👈
Herbert is 26/27 so the Future is stiil bright for Herbert, Harbaugh
& the Los Angeles Chargers.
Harbaugh FIRST Year of his
5 YEAR Contract improved the
Team with a 11-6 Season Record with a OFFENSIVE SKELETON ROSTER.
Los Angeles Chargers have good Cap Space for this upcoming 2025 Season
With Harbaugh & Herbert under Contract for the next several Years
The Future should be good.
Keep Battling!
🎺 Da Da Dah Dah Da Da Charge!!!
⚡️🐴 🏈
Love Chargers since I started following football around 1983 Like all the players have a jersey with 54 on which when I got it was Billy Ray Smith Just hope J Herbert is not the Nate Keating of QB’s Go Chargers ⚡️⚡️⚡️
I realize not all his fault QJ dropped a crucial pass ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Fulton is ass. Irritated me to see him cover Collins.
So frustrating
I don't expect him to be a charger next year. He's been bad all year
Rivers was never THIS bad. But Ladd played out of his mind.
Ladd is awesome. I’m not ready to give up on Herbert but damn that was frustrating.
Our qb choked and the whole offense did to ....
No players better blame it on the fires
36:01 I like Ladd very much and will be in league for a long time if he can stay healthy. However he's not a 1 unless he can bulk up and not lose a step. He's a def 2 or slot guy.
Josh no I didn't think they would win today. I hoped i was wrong. And that they would play a good game. Got nothing
I was confident in today’s game. I didn’t think they wouldn’t show up at all. Embarrassing
It’s so predictable man as fans we try to stay optimistic about our team players but when is this team going to learn about the injury prone players it’s just annoying at this point.
Not knocking on the players themselves but as a team us fans are frustrated with the endless cycle of b.s feel good story line injury prone players.
Just sign reliable productive players period… no more injury prone players it always comes back to hurt us can’t keep repeating the same mistakes when it comes to injury prone players just because they are cap friendly and have feel good b.s stories.
At the end the Team struggles because of this…..🧠
I miss rivers 😢
Well that sucked to go down like that, but I’m proud of them to just to get hear in year one of Harbaugh. Like Dave said this will be the worst roster under Harbaugh. The future is bright. Bolt up
Phillip rivers is better than
...almost any other retired qb not in hall of fame
You can't defend anyone our running backs didn't do anything the only player that did his job was a rookie in ladd....
Justin Herbert will be fine
2-3 of those Interceptions weren’t
Herbert fault they were bobbled by the
Catching Receiving players.
& food for thought 🧠
Mathew Stafford is 37 Years Old &
He Didn’t Win his FIRST Playoff Game
until he was 34 Years Old 👈
Herbert is 26 so the Future is stiil bright for Herbert, Harbaugh
& the Los Angeles Chargers.
Harbaugh FIRST Year of his
5 YEAR Contract improved the
Team with a 11-6 Season Record with a OFFENSIVE SKELETON ROSTER.
Los Angeles Chargers have good Cap Space for this upcoming 2025 Season
With Harbaugh & Herbert under Contract for the next several Years
The Future should be good.
Keep Battling!
🎺 Da Da Dah Dah Da Da Charge!!!
⚡️🐴 🏈
Good match for the Chiefs🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Y’all don’t be so sad Rex Ryan predicted this would be like a bye game for y’all and the national media said you would slaughter the Texans and CJ Stroud it’s ok there’s always next year I hope everyone’s home is safe and sound see ya next year..🤗✌️
Red is full of hot air
11:41 Whoa there Dave. BIG difference when comparing Hawk Tua to Herbert. First and foremost Tua has weapons. Herbert Has a rookie 5ft nothing 100lb wet WR that plays like a champ, but those two can't make the run game respectful. Tua is a fraud, if we had Miami receiving Corp, be lighting up the scoreboard. Sorry I left Miami to come here because of the sole reason they drafted that pretender instead of Herbert haha
Herbert is a fraud you will see in 4 years
Just here to remind you Herbert has the same record in the play offs as Derek Carr 😂
All i can say is if they have to spend tons of money on all world players so the so called Elite Herbert can win a PO game then they should make him take a huge pay cut. maybe just spend lots of money on big time players and sign a Joe Flacco type of QB and stop overpaying for a overhyped average QB
Herbert was awful. I’ve argued & argued he’s top 5, however I can no longer. I have no “big win” to support my claim. Long offseason begins again
yup ! done defending him, he gets PAID a lot of money . Until he proves other wise he can’t beat good teams
Yall let them off the hook…Should have been up by 20 in first half…..
Regardless of the outcome you should be proud of your team coming from a raider fan to have that huge turn around in 1 year with a couple more weapons you guys will be even better next year unlike what i deal with a bunch novelty fashion statements with our organization and its dumb fans.
Trade him for mccrarthy
They would have lost by 40 to the Ravens
100%
They played the ravens and it was not this bad.
Chargers gonna Charger! Harbaugh or Staley, no difference..
Next year what a joke, never, Herbert is a loser. Can't change that, it is his fate.