Well, there truly isn't because it's a lie, it's simply impossible... The closest thing possible would be a hivemind, but even then it would need infinite range, perfect signal, and complete individual personality overriding. Humanity can't be trusted, them red star cultists are delulu.
@@BearLovesBeer233 I mean, it really wasn't. What many people call "communist countries" were socialist, as the idea was start with socialism and go towards communism. But as we can all see, it totally worked out lol
@@Indian_Tovarisch Cuban doctors are forced to work by the government and you'd never want to be taken to an average Cuban hospital. China is an absolute hellhole with a laundry list of atrocities and horrible living standards that would take forever to go over. I don't know much about Vietnam past the 70's but if its so great its weird all the Communists and Socialists in the West don't go there to live.
Clearly, that first guy was merely only trying to point out her mistake in only IMPLYING communist countries were shitty instead of EXPLICITLY stating that communist countries are shitty. What a helpful dude.
Famine in Kentucky and Appalachia (1890s) - Poverty in rural areas of the United States, especially in Appalachia, reached a critical point. In Kentucky and other parts of Appalachia, people experienced serious difficulties in accessing food. The Great Depression and the Hunger Marches (1930s). The Bonus Army (1932) - the hunger march of veterans of the First World War. Ford Hunger March or Ford Massacre (1932) - starving laid-off Ford workers take to the streets with economic demands. In 2009, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), about 14.7% of households (about 17.4 million) had difficulty accessing enough food (basicly it is famine). In 2020, more than 50 million Americans, including 17 million children, faced food insecurity, according to Feeding America. Something tells me that famine, as a problem, is such a thing that ideology plays a far from primary role in it. PS I think it would be better not to cite examples from Britain at all, because there were examples of famine there, especially in the colonies, on such a scale that UA-cam would ban me. =D
@@ganjaericco Just look up McCarthyism.... "something tells me that famine, as a problem, is such a thing that ideology plays a far from primary role in it." shall we continue playing this game?
@@SargeNuR Lysenkoism is communist pseudoscience that starved tens of millions of people to death in Ukraine, Russia, and China. McCarthyism was a political campaign to root out communists in America that killed absolutely no one. Your game is a joke.
I think it depends on the subreddit you're in or what Subreddit you're talking about. As a "Redditor" myself, I've only relegated my account to 1 or 2 Subreddits.
By "the fox girls" do you mean Kirsche and Smug Alana? Also, Lumi has always been very openly anti-communist. Her parents grew up in the Soviet Union, so it's only natural. Idk how familiar you are with the rest of Phase Connect, but it's filled with based women. Pippa literally built her career off being based (look up Pippa's drunk capitalism rant). Dizzy, Shiina and Airi also come to mind as well.
@@midknight9715 Absolutely crazy how so many of us escaped the USSR to countries where college children are now telling us we are wrong and it needs to be tried here. Nah fam, not again. Hold my .223
Yeah her parents grew up in the Soviet Union. According to her, if she ever brings up communism to them, her mom will just start crying, and her dad will start talking about all of his friends and family that died under the communist government. Needless to say, if Lumi ever started supporting communism, they'd probably disown her. There's a clip of her talking about it somewhere, but yeah. I'm sure part of the reason that Lumi is very anti-communist is because she probably grew up hearing the first hand accounts of her parents living under it.
@@midknight9715I think it’s telling how not a single person who has lived under communism ever argues for communism, and the only people who seem to argue in favor of communism are the people who were never exposed to it firsthand. I think I’ll trust the people who lived through communism more than the people who insist it’s a good system because common core told them so (despite having 0 historical precedence for that belief).
@@zachmercer1065 No one has lived through communism. It has never been implemented, for it is the end goal. You are confusing it with socialism, and even then, I'm willing to bet that many of the people who claimed to live under it are full of shit. It can be rather lucrative if you do it right.
@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 yes india has a very long history of communism in it From various parts of Hinduism sharing similarity to communist collectivist ideology to the CPI being indias oldest party after congress, indian communists also won the first democratic elections as a party in the state of kerala in 1950s defeating the congress in state elections,did a massive revolution against the Islamist ruler of hyderabad who had massacred Manny Hindus. CPI and CPI-M at their peak governed 3 states alone by sheer majority,and several others as smaller coalition partners Current the Left front(combined of dozens of socialist,left and commie parties govern the state of kerala which has highest literacy and least poverty rate in India. They also are alliance partners in state of Tamil Nadu,Telangana,Jharkhand CPI and CPI-M have several member of parliament currently from states of Tamil Nadu,kerala and Rajasthan where cpi-m won from the Sikar constituency.
@@Indian_Tovarischkarela literally exports their workforce, makes them work in capitalist countries and then send the money back to india. It's success is not because of socialism, it's IN SPITE of socialism. Socialism NEVER creates wealth - it destroys it.
@@jukeman9291 nah kerala has highest employment ratio in India proper too,kerala has high quality education,keratites have voted communists because the congress was shot after oommen chandy,really you think a Westoid like you would know more than a native indian I have visited kerala Kerala ended feudalism fastest in all Indian states and has implemented high development projects in terms of living standards Even large states like Tamil Nadu have good level of socialistic policies
Romanovs do not exists since death of the Peter II. It was German dynasty Holstein-Gottrops, hided by dynasty pact. Those dumb inbreds kept Russian people in extreme poverty and hunger several centuries, and maked them literally slaves, which worked for nobility (which also was mostly from foreigners).
@@XanderFenikkusu Okay, lets calm down...Monarchies did many times even more vile shit than the Comminists did....not a real improvement there... They are both extremely autocratic and repressive regimes
@@ratrakksstar4420 Это не одно и то же, но одно проистекает из другого. Ядро немецкого фашизма составляли прусские монархисты. Русские монархисты еще до революции составляли "черные сотни", а после революции толпами записывались в коллаборантские части типа РОНА и служили нацистам
@@Goran1138 с каких пор чёрные сотни являются фашистами? Они не выступали за корпоративную экономику. Фашизм не заключается в национализме, а в корпоративизме. Почему когда говорят о коммунизме используют определение данное самими коммунистами, а когда говорят о фашизме не используют определение которое было дано самим Муссолини?
@@ratrakksstar4420 Я же сказал, что не одно и тоже, хоть и имеется сильная преемственная связь. Черные сотни были протофашистами, так как базис в лице монополистического капитализма в Российской Империи только складывался и был еще обвешан кучей феодальных пережитков.
"There are no true communist countries anyway." Yeah, there are no Communist countries LEFT, because they all failed miserably. Well actually... There is North Korea. The shining beacon of success.
China is also still Communist. Even though their economy resembles capitalism, the whole thing is still run (and held back) by their Communist government.
And China, though that’s mostly because big business keeps shipping out work to their sweatshops instead of setting up shop in their own country, which would *shock of all shocks* improve the unemployment rates, but that would also mean businesses would have to pay them more too; so screw that. Might as well put every country in the world in their pockets out of fear of an economical crash. The anime waifus they’ve made after discovering the power of that are nice though.
To them, Communism hasn't failed the people. It was people who failed Communism. They weren't ready for it, ready for true Communism, hence the need to always try it again.
There was an article a while ago that claimed Venezuelan currency was so worthless that criminals couldn’t afford bullets. “We did it Patrick, we saved the city!”
@@CrizzyEyes That pinko redditor has gone "um source" under every-other-post [worst of all most of them are claims he could google and find the source for immediately]
Yeah. Eastern Europeans need nothing more than to hear once again about communism (and with absolute certainty, of course) from people who have no experience of that or the legacy of it.
Well that's blatantly not true. The USSR was a hellhole, but older Soviet citizens absolutely look back at that time period with fondness. You don't need to lie to discredit the USSR, just let history do it by itself.
@@owenchafer1083 yeah and yeltsin Era was a paradise Bruh ussr was the first cou try to send people to space,pioneered science,helped several countries with scientific progress, my own country India was saved by ussr because USA was full on supporting Pakistan would have a done an Iraq with india if ussr didn't come and saved us from USA by serving a large deterrent and sent nuclear submarines. You are a classic Westoid who loves the imperialist colonialist attitude the west still has.
That's blatantly false, yeltsin era was particularly painful for Russians due to the destruction of the public sector . The issue with the USSR was that it wasn't democratic, That's all there is to it .
@@Indian_Tovarisch I mean....I'm not going to deny how impressive the USSR was, nor the advancements and good it was responsible for but.....well, there's a reason why so many ex-soviet countries dislike communism. For every person uplifted by the system, you can find 2 more who had family killed or tortured. If we're only going to look at the good, we might as well excuse the US for all the atrocities it commited.
Man. Every clip i see from Lumi here. She just continues to keep being so based here. This girl is on another level here. Loving some of the clips from Lumi here ♥ 🐀
Whenever someone says that socialism works or that communism works, their examples are always countries with a mixed economy, countries that do rely on import AND export to sustain themselves. They never give you an example of a country that is just fine with pure socialism and communism.
Yeah ikr. It's either 1.it didn't work and fell. or 2. They had to go through extreme poverty until they finally decided to utilize some type of capitalist system in order to save their economy.
"You're implying that all communist countries are shitty." No, sweetheart, *anyone w/ two brain cells to rub together is **_SAYING_* that _all communist countries are shitty._
Why the anglosphere still make the same mistake? They misuse word "liberal" as a "leftist" synonym, it pisses me off Milei defines himself as a liberal and he refers socialists and social-democrats as "shitty leftists". Gringos got a big issue towards their patological love for euphemisms
@@SyamuNekoSanTheir "leftist" is capitalist that pretends to give a shit about human right. Apparently, the "human" in question doesn't include: the working class, foreign non white Christian countries.
"You're implying all communists countries are shitty" As a Pole, that listened to his parents, grandparents, and teachers, i have to say that it's the most idiotic statement I've heard, mind you, in Communist Poland we used to eat one orange on Christmas, because it was considered a luxury.
Communists: 'Nazism is a doomed ideology because Germany tried it and it didn't work'. Also communists: 'Russia and others tried communism and it didn't work? That doesn't speak to the viability of communism'.
Who is even saying nazism is bad because it didn't work? The issue people have isn't that it did or didn't work, but what it tried to do. Saying a system worked or not without specifying what you're measuring as success is useless. You can say feudalism/capitalism/fascism or communism did or didn't work all depending on what you define as worked. And if a country with that system collapsing or changing system is the sole arbiter, then we get to weird conclusions like "feudalism didn't work", even though it flourished for centuries
@@Raven_DemandDystopiaNazism's aims were the same as Communism: liberate the people from oppression by a small, overly powerful group by violent means, then institute an utopia where the formerly oppressed could be free, wealthy and proud of what they were working towards. They just disagreed on whom belonged to said oppressors. But yes, formal economic discussion isn't on whether they achieved their goals, but whether they work, today, optimally or close to it. And nothing other than laissez-faire capitalism does, feudalism included; the world simply didn't know better back then.
@@disalazarg Again, whether something works can't be defined without a reference. That's like a measurement without units. Next to that, even with that defined, success is also dependent on the conditions of a society. Capitalism didn't replace feudalism because people changed their minds, but because the conditions changed. You can't have capitalism without capitalists after all
Except the second Vietnam got it's stuff sorted out it went just like China more capitalistic with some domestic versions of communism as dressing to benefit the government over the average citizen.
as someone who lived in a (former) communist country, i wish all americans would be teleported to Angola. shit was so bad that they are still recovering after switching to capitalism
@@alexeystarkov7504 Nah, Pol Pot. That dude was on a path of exterminating his entire country including his fellow communists and he wouldve absolutely succeeded in that if not for Vietnamise intervention and invasion to stop it. And this was the communist Vietnam It's an interesting read all the things he did, without doubt or any close competition Pol Pot was the worst leader of any country ever.
@@Medic99z No inequality, everyone is equal! you can't have social classes if there are no people to make up those classes! You also can't be hungry if you're dead!
True Communism is best represented by a beehive or an ant colony, there is no bourgeoisie (middle class), just a clear dividing line between the ruling class and the working class that cannot be crossed. It is inhumane, but efficient. Only though if those in the ruling class are the hypothetically perfect bureaucrat, and only if the working class is perfectly content with the idea that they are expendable pawns in a game where they will never be promoted. Communism doesn't work with humans, or more accurately it doesn't work with animals that possess higher level thinking.
@@CodeBlue2001 Selfishness isn't the point, it's self determination. You cannot turn an entire nation into one big happy family without making the choice for every man woman and child what it is they are going to do for their life. The working class can be suppressed, they can be controlled easily which is what is responsible for all of the things that make people say it's "not true Communism" but the true and final breakdown comes as even those in power are not able to hold it all together. The state has absolute power and absolute responsibility and they would need to be capable of running literally everything without being held accountable by anyone. I will never understand this inherent selflessness argument. You wouldn't be trying to destroy society if you thought people were inherently selfless, or is the plan to kill all the selfish people and then when your the only bad people left in the world kill yourselves? No, Communist believe in objective states of Good and Evil and so the ends justify the means when achieving your utopian vision. It is the same problem I have with religion, the implications of objective morality where a top down authority decides for you what is Good and what is Evil, and the consequences of your actions are either eternal paradise or eternal damnation. All of these implications if true would suggest that the ends absolutely justify the means and it isn't about being good or bad, it is about doing what you are told because you are coerced, if you don't have the ability to choose without coercion you can't be actually selfless, you can only act in your own best interest or be defiant no matter the cost.
"Clear dividing line betweem the ruling class and the working class that cannot be crossed", you said. Well, Khrushev will disagree with you. Son of the repressed food-lender who become next ruler of USSR after Stalin.
@@courtland4494 I'd say China is doing quite well right now, though they acknowledge the Great Leap Forward as a mistake. After all, you can't jump straight from feudalism to socialism. Deng Xiaoping knew this
@@courtland4494 also' there have been way more famines related to capitalism than socialism, such as the Bengal Famine, where the Soviets were the earliest to assist India in dealing with, while Britain didn't really care initially
Idk who she is, but this is BASED as fuck. Guess it took someone that actually lived in such a place to finally show the truth that some kept to themselves and others straight up deny. Very refreshing to see.
I'd wager an entire month's wages the chatter is referring to two of the nordic countries, Iceland, Norway, Demark, Sweden, one of those. And they aren't communist or socialist. They use the nordic model which is high in state welfare, but supported through capitalism. Socialism is total governmental control over wages, pricing, stock, shipment and all over aspects of availability. Denmark on the other hand has virtually no economic regulation to speak of. In a lot of ways it's actually even more of a free and open market than the United States has.
Probably brain-rotted by US conservatives calling everything they don't like "socialist" or "communist". At least I hope thats whats going on or that commenter is much sadder.
thank you for putting in this way, i hate people saying norway is a socialist country. we have universal healthcare and free education, thats not socialism, the government using the tax money we pay for beneficial things for its people, is not socialism, ITS CALLED A F'IN WORKING GOVERNMENT
@@pebzi- Honestly, I'm fine with the idea of a social safety net, the issue I take is government having anything to do with it. Though y'all seem to have it pretty well figured out. From what I can tell, corruption scandals in the nordic countries are pretty rare.
Capitalists use the same excuses when confronted with corporatism and the sharp decline of public services in the US during Reagan years. As someone who lives in Europe i'd be more embarrassed if my country couldn't provide atleast top level public services if we're supposedly the top nation in the world.
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“you’re implying all communist countries are shitty”
ladies and gentlemen, the smartest Twitch chatter
@@_Crush__ they’re are some real space cadets on there.
That's some real cope there by a capitalist
@@FineWine-v4.0 Cope and dilate, could be in South America, Europe or even Asia, all shitholes with lots of crime, trust me bro I live in one.
@@FineWine-v4.0 would rather be poor in a capitalist country than in a communist one
@@FineWine-v4.0 I'd love to hear what communist countries are doing okay.
"There are no true communist counties anyway"
Man that one always gets me 😂
Basically the “we never lost but we’re gonna win, trust us bro” take.
"It's okay, it wasn't real communism. We can try again in another country"
"You can't fly by flapping your arms really hard."
"Nuh uh, it's just that everyone who tried didn't flap hard enough."
Well, there truly isn't because it's a lie, it's simply impossible...
The closest thing possible would be a hivemind, but even then it would need infinite range, perfect signal, and complete individual personality overriding.
Humanity can't be trusted, them red star cultists are delulu.
@@BearLovesBeer233 I mean, it really wasn't. What many people call "communist countries" were socialist, as the idea was start with socialism and go towards communism. But as we can all see, it totally worked out lol
0:25 When you gotta hit em with the Loom stare
those A10 eyes can singlehandedly denature marxist DNA
"You're implying all communist countries are shitty."
Well, THEY ARE!
Chian and vietnam meanwhile being manufacturing hubs
Cuba having largest anount of doctors
@@Indian_Tovarisch Cuban doctors are forced to work by the government and you'd never want to be taken to an average Cuban hospital. China is an absolute hellhole with a laundry list of atrocities and horrible living standards that would take forever to go over. I don't know much about Vietnam past the 70's but if its so great its weird all the Communists and Socialists in the West don't go there to live.
@@Indian_Tovarisch Typical communist cope.
@@Indian_Tovarisch Yeah, and they're shit still regardless. Cope!
@@Indian_Tovarisch Easy to be manufacturing hubs when you do things as cheap as possible and child labor.
"Just needs outside influence." For an economic theory that really likes to shit on religion, they're pretty prone to religious logic.
When you get rid of religion, you become the religion.
@@bug5654or rather, the government becomes the religion (this coming from a non-religious person.)
Woke people are more fanatical than any religious person I've ever met.
@@midknight9715 Which is why we need Catholicism.
Communism is based on marxism which is a religion.
Clearly, that first guy was merely only trying to point out her mistake in only IMPLYING communist countries were shitty instead of EXPLICITLY stating that communist countries are shitty. What a helpful dude.
Yea high IQ.
We need to make communists into good communists.
@@InquisitorJack I'll call Pinochet up. The only way is through rigorous helicopter training.
@IncredibleMD
Context?
What country was she referring to?
Redditors
“We’re just one more famine away from utopia! Why not give it another chance?” - Communists, two famines ago.
Famine in Kentucky and Appalachia (1890s) - Poverty in rural areas of the United States, especially in Appalachia, reached a critical point. In Kentucky and other parts of Appalachia, people experienced serious difficulties in accessing food.
The Great Depression and the Hunger Marches (1930s).
The Bonus Army (1932) - the hunger march of veterans of the First World War.
Ford Hunger March or Ford Massacre (1932) - starving laid-off Ford workers take to the streets with economic demands.
In 2009, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), about 14.7% of households (about 17.4 million) had difficulty accessing enough food (basicly it is famine).
In 2020, more than 50 million Americans, including 17 million children, faced food insecurity, according to Feeding America.
Something tells me that famine, as a problem, is such a thing that ideology plays a far from primary role in it.
PS I think it would be better not to cite examples from Britain at all, because there were examples of famine there, especially in the colonies, on such a scale that UA-cam would ban me. =D
@@SargeNuR Just look up Lysenkoism
"something tells me that famine, as a problem, is such a thing that ideology plays a far from primary role in it."
@@ganjaericco Just look up McCarthyism....
"something tells me that famine, as a problem, is such a thing that ideology plays a far from primary role in it."
shall we continue playing this game?
@@SargeNuR Lysenkoism is communist pseudoscience that starved tens of millions of people to death in Ukraine, Russia, and China.
McCarthyism was a political campaign to root out communists in America that killed absolutely no one.
Your game is a joke.
@@SargeNuR imagine comparing McCarthyism to fucking Lysenkoism of all things.
This level of commie whatabaoutism should be punished in schools.
Redditors are a blight
I think it depends on the subreddit you're in or what Subreddit you're talking about.
As a "Redditor" myself, I've only relegated my account to 1 or 2 Subreddits.
as if these 4channers are better
@@blackjacka.5097 they are. It's a low bar though. Reddit is full of the worst scum on the internet.
@@blackjacka.5097 At least 4channers are sometimes funny.
@@Juhno Yeah, the quadrillionth chris-chan joke in the last 5 minutes is le 4chan funny.
База, лимонная женщина права.
“The lemon woman is right” I love the Russian language 😂
Боже, Царицу храни
based.
The lemon woman knows
Нет
First the fox girls and now this? So many based vtubers are coming out of the woodwork. I love it.
By "the fox girls" do you mean Kirsche and Smug Alana? Also, Lumi has always been very openly anti-communist. Her parents grew up in the Soviet Union, so it's only natural. Idk how familiar you are with the rest of Phase Connect, but it's filled with based women. Pippa literally built her career off being based (look up Pippa's drunk capitalism rant). Dizzy, Shiina and Airi also come to mind as well.
@@midknight9715 wait lumi is russian?!
@@crawlingboy Yes lol. I mean she was born in Boston, but both her parents are very Russian.
@@midknight9715 Absolutely crazy how so many of us escaped the USSR to countries where college children are now telling us we are wrong and it needs to be tried here. Nah fam, not again. Hold my .223
@@blackittyluv yeah for real
Talking shit about commies AND redditors, lemon woman love
Patrick Star: "What's the difference??"
@@OverlordPleinair
Corporate wants you to find the difference between [commie] picture and [redditor] picture.
They're the same picture.
Before video: not Lumi fan
After video: now Lumi fan
respect o7
Yeah her parents grew up in the Soviet Union. According to her, if she ever brings up communism to them, her mom will just start crying, and her dad will start talking about all of his friends and family that died under the communist government. Needless to say, if Lumi ever started supporting communism, they'd probably disown her.
There's a clip of her talking about it somewhere, but yeah. I'm sure part of the reason that Lumi is very anti-communist is because she probably grew up hearing the first hand accounts of her parents living under it.
@@midknight9715I think it’s telling how not a single person who has lived under communism ever argues for communism, and the only people who seem to argue in favor of communism are the people who were never exposed to it firsthand.
I think I’ll trust the people who lived through communism more than the people who insist it’s a good system because common core told them so (despite having 0 historical precedence for that belief).
@@zachmercer1065 Erm Akchually cOmMuNiSm HaS nEvEr ReAlLy BeEn TrIeD¡
@@Bigdude0444because there is no country dumb enough to try it
@@zachmercer1065 No one has lived through communism. It has never been implemented, for it is the end goal. You are confusing it with socialism, and even then, I'm willing to bet that many of the people who claimed to live under it are full of shit. It can be rather lucrative if you do it right.
Based anti-communist Vtuber.
Dumb.
@@Indian_Tovarisch Interesting username, comrade.
@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 yes india has a very long history of communism in it
From various parts of Hinduism sharing similarity to communist collectivist ideology to the CPI being indias oldest party after congress, indian communists also won the first democratic elections as a party in the state of kerala in 1950s defeating the congress in state elections,did a massive revolution against the Islamist ruler of hyderabad who had massacred Manny Hindus.
CPI and CPI-M at their peak governed 3 states alone by sheer majority,and several others as smaller coalition partners
Current the Left front(combined of dozens of socialist,left and commie parties govern the state of kerala which has highest literacy and least poverty rate in India.
They also are alliance partners in state of Tamil Nadu,Telangana,Jharkhand
CPI and CPI-M have several member of parliament currently from states of Tamil Nadu,kerala and Rajasthan where cpi-m won from the Sikar constituency.
@@Indian_Tovarischkarela literally exports their workforce, makes them work in capitalist countries and then send the money back to india. It's success is not because of socialism, it's IN SPITE of socialism.
Socialism NEVER creates wealth - it destroys it.
@@jukeman9291 nah kerala has highest employment ratio in India proper too,kerala has high quality education,keratites have voted communists because the congress was shot after oommen chandy,really you think a Westoid like you would know more than a native indian
I have visited kerala
Kerala ended feudalism fastest in all Indian states and has implemented high development projects in terms of living standards
Even large states like Tamil Nadu have good level of socialistic policies
BASED LUMI!
That's our Romanov Princess. Always looking for ways to try and re-instate the Romanovs.
Based monarchist
Romanovs do not exists since death of the Peter II. It was German dynasty Holstein-Gottrops, hided by dynasty pact.
Those dumb inbreds kept Russian people in extreme poverty and hunger several centuries, and maked them literally slaves, which worked for nobility (which also was mostly from foreigners).
What if it's not her real last name?
@@oriongear2499 Dude. Its just a running joke in the community is all. Don't take it seriously.
@@XanderFenikkusu Okay, lets calm down...Monarchies did many times even more vile shit than the Comminists did....not a real improvement there...
They are both extremely autocratic and repressive regimes
All hail the last Romanov! May she rule a hundred years!
The Romanov monarchy will never come back. COPE
@@bluegamer4210что за каша должна быть в голове чтобы считать монархизм и фашизм одним и тем же
@@ratrakksstar4420 Это не одно и то же, но одно проистекает из другого. Ядро немецкого фашизма составляли прусские монархисты. Русские монархисты еще до революции составляли "черные сотни", а после революции толпами записывались в коллаборантские части типа РОНА и служили нацистам
@@Goran1138 с каких пор чёрные сотни являются фашистами? Они не выступали за корпоративную экономику. Фашизм не заключается в национализме, а в корпоративизме. Почему когда говорят о коммунизме используют определение данное самими коммунистами, а когда говорят о фашизме не используют определение которое было дано самим Муссолини?
@@ratrakksstar4420
Я же сказал, что не одно и тоже, хоть и имеется сильная преемственная связь. Черные сотни были протофашистами, так как базис в лице монополистического капитализма в Российской Империи только складывался и был еще обвешан кучей феодальных пережитков.
1:21 Damn, lemon woman out here going for the jugular...
And she's right. Commies be gone!
"There are no true communist countries anyway."
Yeah, there are no Communist countries LEFT, because they all failed miserably.
Well actually... There is North Korea.
The shining beacon of success.
China is also still Communist. Even though their economy resembles capitalism, the whole thing is still run (and held back) by their Communist government.
I mean at this point NK can be considered a kim monarchy that uses socialist policies as a tool to enforce people to be obedient.
@@Karznax Yeah I'd say that's an accurate assessment
And China, though that’s mostly because big business keeps shipping out work to their sweatshops instead of setting up shop in their own country, which would *shock of all shocks* improve the unemployment rates, but that would also mean businesses would have to pay them more too; so screw that. Might as well put every country in the world in their pockets out of fear of an economical crash.
The anime waifus they’ve made after discovering the power of that are nice though.
Shining in what way? They have to conserve electricity so their capital still has lighting at night.
Top 10 Successful Communist Countries:
Thanks for watching!
China?
@@ClipsOfVTubers LOL
LMAO even
@@ClipsOfVTubers literally got sucessful after STOPPING BEING ONE...😅
@@ClipsOfVTubersThe shining example with American capitalist fast food places all over the country.
But what about the most communist Democratic Kampuchea?
To them, Communism hasn't failed the people. It was people who failed Communism. They weren't ready for it, ready for true Communism, hence the need to always try it again.
It's been tried in basically all Asian countries, and all of Eastern Europe. Open eyes.
ALL Asian countries? Are you that ignorant? Or do you make yourself to be since you can't argue further than "communism = bad"?
@@Koan__ Communism is bad LMAO
@@Koan__ He definitely couched that "all" with a "basically". Argue in good faith.
No True Communism Fallacy.
When even the Vtubers shit on Reddit tankies, you know it's just over.
nah
@@CodeBlue2001 yuh
Was over from the start
Man, that silent judgy look, I love this lemon.
That guy who wrote he lived in 2... Holy crap 😨
He either just wanted to be sure or thought he escaped the first time.
Bro is obviously lying and making it up
He said **lived**, past tense. Even the tankies don't want to live there.
@@ghoulbuster1Or you know, they move around - or is that too unbelievable for this generation?
@@GabeNsApostle In a communist country you're not allowed to leave.
It’s like people in chat forget that she is descendent of Russian royalty
Ok but is she really though? I wouldn't be surprised if she was, but is she really THE last Romanov? It would be epic if she was.
Chat: The bloodline must continue....
@@wylandnares8642of course not, it would be 5 minutes to doxx her otherwise
imagine being connected with the Romanovs working at Phase Connect. Lumi is so based
@@wylandnares8642ignore the trolls lumi and i are preserving the romanov line for the day when eastern europe shall again fall under our yoke
BASED. The spirit of Eisenhower lives in Lumi.
There was an article a while ago that claimed Venezuelan currency was so worthless that criminals couldn’t afford bullets.
“We did it Patrick, we saved the city!”
You think that’s bad? I read back in 2018 that Venezuelan currency was so worthless, World of Warcraft in game currency was 7 times more valuable
@@andrewjones6583 I'm gonna need a source for that, chief.
@@CodeBlue2001 You can literally Google it
@@CodeBlue2001 judging by how common "WoW powergamer" is as a career choice in poor countries, it's really not that far fetched at all
@@CrizzyEyes That pinko redditor has gone "um source" under every-other-post [worst of all most of them are claims he could google and find the source for immediately]
As a Venezuelan.. that we had to use dollars bc our bolivar became so worthless and we make like 8$ per month officially..
Yeah
I need to move to venezuela i could live like a king
Damn, Phase has the perfect waifus.
Based lemon woman
The fat electrician felt a disturbance in the force. And he felt happy.
Ah another fat electrician enjoyer, my hats off to you!
Based lemon woman.
based lumi take.
Can't wait for twitter to try and fail to cancel her.
There are many things that concern me about Lumi. But then she goes and reassures me!
She's GigaBASED.
Lumi's chat will have a blast in North Korea. I'm sure they won't have any complaints
@@bluegamer4210 womp womp
@@bluegamer4210 you can get the general idea of what a place is like when they shoot their own people for trying to leave
North Korea isn't communist, they're juche
Yeah. Eastern Europeans need nothing more than to hear once again about communism (and with absolute certainty, of course) from people who have no experience of that or the legacy of it.
Funny how everyone who’s lived under the system doesn’t want to live under the system.
I m indian and i want to live in it
Nehrus revisionism and modis crony capitalism will rot india
Well that's blatantly not true. The USSR was a hellhole, but older Soviet citizens absolutely look back at that time period with fondness.
You don't need to lie to discredit the USSR, just let history do it by itself.
@@owenchafer1083 yeah and yeltsin Era was a paradise
Bruh ussr was the first cou try to send people to space,pioneered science,helped several countries with scientific progress, my own country India was saved by ussr because USA was full on supporting Pakistan would have a done an Iraq with india if ussr didn't come and saved us from USA by serving a large deterrent and sent nuclear submarines.
You are a classic Westoid who loves the imperialist colonialist attitude the west still has.
That's blatantly false, yeltsin era was particularly painful for Russians due to the destruction of the public sector .
The issue with the USSR was that it wasn't democratic, That's all there is to it .
@@Indian_Tovarisch I mean....I'm not going to deny how impressive the USSR was, nor the advancements and good it was responsible for but.....well, there's a reason why so many ex-soviet countries dislike communism. For every person uplifted by the system, you can find 2 more who had family killed or tortured.
If we're only going to look at the good, we might as well excuse the US for all the atrocities it commited.
How can one lemon be so based?
Man. Every clip i see from Lumi here. She just continues to keep being so based here. This girl is on another level here. Loving some of the clips from Lumi here ♥ 🐀
Whenever someone says that socialism works or that communism works, their examples are always countries with a mixed economy, countries that do rely on import AND export to sustain themselves. They never give you an example of a country that is just fine with pure socialism and communism.
Yeah ikr. It's either 1.it didn't work and fell. or 2. They had to go through extreme poverty until they finally decided to utilize some type of capitalist system in order to save their economy.
I'm not a communist (as much as I'm not a capitalist) but you're confusing both socialism and communism with autarky. Careful.
@@rizkydarmawan6540 i ain't confusing shit.
I'm 32 and I've never heard the term autarky in my life
Yeah. Social Capitalism works, but regular Socialism can’t really work on a grand scale.
Damn. Lumi based based based.
I hope Funny Valentine puts the Tzarina back on her throne.
Man I hope that silence was because she banned him, now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to subscribe.
Thank you for the support comrade, now face the wall
She should’ve offered those dudes a helicopter ride
PINOCHET MENTION!!!!
I should watch her more
"You're implying that all communist countries are shitty."
No, sweetheart, *anyone w/ two brain cells to rub together is **_SAYING_* that _all communist countries are shitty._
Ask them to name a single non-shitty "communist" country and you'll hear nothing but silence.
@dudebruh8534 they will sometimes have an answer, but it is just a capitalist country that like the color red lot
My minecraft server comprised of my brother and cousin would beg to differ.
@@josephg6863
Or the good ol' "it's not real communism" hoodwink.
@@dudebruh8534The USSR.
Lemon LOVE
Commie HATE
As a chubby electron guy says “communism works great when its backed by capitalists!”
And they said Lumi couldnt get any hotter
Every time I hear Lumi speak I want to marry her more.
We need her to sing "Ain't I Right" by Marty Robbins
Nick the Fat Electrician would like a word:
Get filtered tourist
Ah the whole “real communism has never been tried” angle… as someone who’s family escaped communism, I hate American liberal’s takes on anything lol
When did your family escape, if I may ask.
Are you a Jew ?
It was tried and it was awesome.
Why the anglosphere still make the same mistake? They misuse word "liberal" as a "leftist" synonym, it pisses me off
Milei defines himself as a liberal and he refers socialists and social-democrats as "shitty leftists".
Gringos got a big issue towards their patological love for euphemisms
@@SyamuNekoSanTheir "leftist" is capitalist that pretends to give a shit about human right. Apparently, the "human" in question doesn't include: the working class, foreign non white Christian countries.
"You're implying all communists countries are shitty"
As a Pole, that listened to his parents, grandparents, and teachers, i have to say that it's the most idiotic statement I've heard, mind you, in Communist Poland we used to eat one orange on Christmas, because it was considered a luxury.
Someone needs to show this to the Fat Election. He would love this.
Communists: 'Nazism is a doomed ideology because Germany tried it and it didn't work'.
Also communists: 'Russia and others tried communism and it didn't work? That doesn't speak to the viability of communism'.
Who is even saying nazism is bad because it didn't work? The issue people have isn't that it did or didn't work, but what it tried to do.
Saying a system worked or not without specifying what you're measuring as success is useless. You can say feudalism/capitalism/fascism or communism did or didn't work all depending on what you define as worked. And if a country with that system collapsing or changing system is the sole arbiter, then we get to weird conclusions like "feudalism didn't work", even though it flourished for centuries
@@Raven_DemandDystopia Then the same applies to communism, for what they did (more people died under communism than under Nazism).
@@insertnamehere001 If as many contries had nazism ideology and for as long period of time as communism it would be way worse. Bad comparisent
@@Raven_DemandDystopiaNazism's aims were the same as Communism: liberate the people from oppression by a small, overly powerful group by violent means, then institute an utopia where the formerly oppressed could be free, wealthy and proud of what they were working towards. They just disagreed on whom belonged to said oppressors.
But yes, formal economic discussion isn't on whether they achieved their goals, but whether they work, today, optimally or close to it. And nothing other than laissez-faire capitalism does, feudalism included; the world simply didn't know better back then.
@@disalazarg Again, whether something works can't be defined without a reference. That's like a measurement without units.
Next to that, even with that defined, success is also dependent on the conditions of a society. Capitalism didn't replace feudalism because people changed their minds, but because the conditions changed. You can't have capitalism without capitalists after all
Vietnam is more socialist.
The chain of evolution from the theory be : feudalism-> capitalism-> socialism-> communism.
Except the second Vietnam got it's stuff sorted out it went just like China more capitalistic with some domestic versions of communism as dressing to benefit the government over the average citizen.
I love this lemon.
as someone who lived in a (former) communist country, i wish all americans would be teleported to Angola. shit was so bad that they are still recovering after switching to capitalism
Not me, I already hate communism X) So of course I'm not disagreeing with you, but were things better under Portuguese rule?
I love shitting on communism
You and me both
Ohh lemon woman I came for acidity but got BASED instead
WTF I love Lumi now.
Oh god, not the "WELLL TRUE COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED DERPPPP" guy.
You earned yourself a venezuelan sub, lemon girl. Very based takes.
Que molleja primo
I wake up
Immediately get another reason to love loombi
She is so based
Lumi speaks, I listen. Bring back the red scare
True communism is everyone dead😂
Perfect equality
Stalin was the closest one fr then lmao
@@alexeystarkov7504
Nah, Pol Pot. That dude was on a path of exterminating his entire country including his fellow communists and he wouldve absolutely succeeded in that if not for Vietnamise intervention and invasion to stop it. And this was the communist Vietnam
It's an interesting read all the things he did, without doubt or any close competition Pol Pot was the worst leader of any country ever.
As an added benefit unemployment also falls to 0% if everyone is dead. Yay
@@Medic99z No inequality, everyone is equal! you can't have social classes if there are no people to make up those classes! You also can't be hungry if you're dead!
True Communism is best represented by a beehive or an ant colony, there is no bourgeoisie (middle class), just a clear dividing line between the ruling class and the working class that cannot be crossed. It is inhumane, but efficient. Only though if those in the ruling class are the hypothetically perfect bureaucrat, and only if the working class is perfectly content with the idea that they are expendable pawns in a game where they will never be promoted.
Communism doesn't work with humans, or more accurately it doesn't work with animals that possess higher level thinking.
Human nature is not inherantly selfish, if that is what you are getting at. Plenty of human are inherantly selfless. This is just a pitiful escuse.
@@CodeBlue2001 Selfishness isn't the point, it's self determination. You cannot turn an entire nation into one big happy family without making the choice for every man woman and child what it is they are going to do for their life. The working class can be suppressed, they can be controlled easily which is what is responsible for all of the things that make people say it's "not true Communism" but the true and final breakdown comes as even those in power are not able to hold it all together. The state has absolute power and absolute responsibility and they would need to be capable of running literally everything without being held accountable by anyone.
I will never understand this inherent selflessness argument. You wouldn't be trying to destroy society if you thought people were inherently selfless, or is the plan to kill all the selfish people and then when your the only bad people left in the world kill yourselves? No, Communist believe in objective states of Good and Evil and so the ends justify the means when achieving your utopian vision.
It is the same problem I have with religion, the implications of objective morality where a top down authority decides for you what is Good and what is Evil, and the consequences of your actions are either eternal paradise or eternal damnation. All of these implications if true would suggest that the ends absolutely justify the means and it isn't about being good or bad, it is about doing what you are told because you are coerced, if you don't have the ability to choose without coercion you can't be actually selfless, you can only act in your own best interest or be defiant no matter the cost.
"Clear dividing line betweem the ruling class and the working class that cannot be crossed", you said. Well, Khrushev will disagree with you. Son of the repressed food-lender who become next ruler of USSR after Stalin.
"That's not true communism"
The Fat Electrician would love to debate you on that.
Uh oh, reddit and twitter are gonna cancel her
Reddit and Twitter are liberal as hell, what are you talking about. Hell, Twitter is going fascist if anything
@@CodeBlue2001 "twitter is going fascist"
I want whatever you're smoking
"Reddit is liberal"
Understatement
@@facehurt7606 Have you seen the news section? It's a nightmare
@@facehurt7606 What do you mean
@@facehurt7606 Oh, yeah I knew about that. It's terrible
Good title comrade. You are promoted
And then what happens? She gets sent off to some war to fight for some country that hates her?
I think I just found my new favorite vtuber
based based based bases based
Calling out commies and redditors? Someone get me a ring, I'm bringing this one home to mama.
Freakin' tankies, I swear. Romanov Lumi is based.
No idea who she is, but that's an insta-follow
каиеко гцму, heir to the romanov throne, lemon thief and also my wife (real)
@@hello-rq8kf Your wife? She's my wife!
@@StarboyXL9 Your wife? She's my wife!
@@USELESSDCK Your wife? She's my wife!
@@hello-rq8kf I am not gonna pull a communism joke about claiming someone's wife
Loomi, the vtuber we deserve 😂
She's too real for that. Christ, I'm in love. Is this that parasocial thing y'all been talkin' about?
But real communism has never been tried... or some other...
Holy crap, someone said it unironically while I was typing.
It factually true, since it is the end goal. Do not confuse it with socialism. It is a classic anti-communist talking point.
@@CodeBlue2001Don't overdose on that copium, comrade. They still need your body as fodder for the Greater Leap Forward.
@@courtland4494 I'd say China is doing quite well right now, though they acknowledge the Great Leap Forward as a mistake. After all, you can't jump straight from feudalism to socialism. Deng Xiaoping knew this
@@courtland4494 also' there have been way more famines related to capitalism than socialism, such as the Bengal Famine, where the Soviets were the earliest to assist India in dealing with, while Britain didn't really care initially
@@courtland4494 Words have meaning.
"The first 56 times were trash and bad but the 57th time!" -Chatter
Idk who she is, but this is BASED as fuck. Guess it took someone that actually lived in such a place to finally show the truth that some kept to themselves and others straight up deny.
Very refreshing to see.
People are saying she's royal/royalty, but I highly doubt she's that.
Venezuela has been burning cash for at least a decade right now.
I'd wager an entire month's wages the chatter is referring to two of the nordic countries, Iceland, Norway, Demark, Sweden, one of those. And they aren't communist or socialist. They use the nordic model which is high in state welfare, but supported through capitalism. Socialism is total governmental control over wages, pricing, stock, shipment and all over aspects of availability. Denmark on the other hand has virtually no economic regulation to speak of. In a lot of ways it's actually even more of a free and open market than the United States has.
Probably brain-rotted by US conservatives calling everything they don't like "socialist" or "communist". At least I hope thats whats going on or that commenter is much sadder.
thank you for putting in this way, i hate people saying norway is a socialist country. we have universal healthcare and free education, thats not socialism, the government using the tax money we pay for beneficial things for its people, is not socialism, ITS CALLED A F'IN WORKING GOVERNMENT
@@pebzi- Honestly, I'm fine with the idea of a social safety net, the issue I take is government having anything to do with it. Though y'all seem to have it pretty well figured out. From what I can tell, corruption scandals in the nordic countries are pretty rare.
Totally! Socialism is when the government.
Gotta love the "There are no true communist countries" line.
There are no communist countries, and this is not an excuse, but a fact, but to know this you need to study
@@Hugo1749-g8q sure thing, pal.
*rEaL cOmMuNiSm hAs nEVeR bEeN tRieD*
They actually said the thing lol
Ianque burro
Where's Liberty Prime when you need him...?
It does not exist cause it's fake just like everything you Believe in.
Her take is very based, people need to learn that any system that hates free will is a cesspool controlled by the worst of humanity.
I swear I felt my brain dissolve itself with each message that came by. Again. THIS KEEPS HAPPENING AAAAA
base anti-communist vtuber she'll get my vote.
Based Lumi W take
I don't see any problem here
Good Lord, that was great, lmao. I'm saving that rn.
Nothing is free, bro has to get over himself
"It's never been tried" is the most embarrassing statement in political theory. It's been 176 years and you haven't achieved step one!?
Capitalists use the same excuses when confronted with corporatism and the sharp decline of public services in the US during Reagan years.
As someone who lives in Europe i'd be more embarrassed if my country couldn't provide atleast top level public services if we're supposedly the top nation in the world.
Next video of lemon woman "I want to say sorry to my China viewers" in John Seena style 😂😂😂
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