i have the opposite problem and cant get it to sound good through my tube amp. ive tried the FX Return and also tried running it before the amp, and both sound terrible.
Jason, you start off by showing us a global feature to turn OFF if we want to run into a power amp and real speaker...but then show us a capture of your Archon 50...and you do not reveal the rest of your signal path. Are you running guitar into TONEX and straight into a 1/4" input on your interface? Are we hearing an unprocessed tone? It sounds good...but WHY does it sound good? I would love a video where you start by downloading a couple amp captures (no cabinets), and show us live, how EVERYTHING is set on the TONEX pedal as you go from the download to using the fx return on an amp. And while you have an actual amp (Dirty Shirley seems like a good candidate), could you additionally show us captured overdrive and distortion pedals and sampling them into the front end of an amp...again directly showing us in real time the various setting within the TONEX that results in a natural sound? I was excited (as many users probably were) to be able to dowload 150 overdrive, distortion, and fuzz pedals into the TONEX, but to end up hearing tones that all have the same character to them. Thank you!
Thank you Jason! This was a setting I wasn't aware of. I'm going through a rig rebuild where I use both the ToneX pedal and a Soldano Astro 20 as a preamp, (switched through the two loops of an HX Effects), then feed into the Astro for either playing through a cab or using the Astro's IR loader direct. Using this setting saves me from re-saving all my ToneX presets without cabs, which is what I was planning on doing.
I encounter the same issue with various modeling pedals: the sound quality is poor when played through any speaker cabinet. While using headphones or connecting to a PC, the audio is excellent, but it deteriorates significantly when routed through an active speaker. Has anyone found a solution to this problem? This challenge is the primary reason I haven’t transitioned from my tube amplifier setup, as nothing compares to the combination of a quality head and passive cabinet. I am eager to embrace modeling technology, but this issue is currently holding me back.
Yeah, on some presets it sounds like crap unless you turn the cab model off, while with others it sounds like crap unless you have the cab model on, at least in my experience. Weird…
Jason, great explanation. I had to learn this by trial and error. I'm one of those folks that runs my tonex pedal into a fryette power station into a real Marshall cabinet with greenbacks. Like you mentioned, sounds bad with cabinet speaker emulation/IR running in combination with a real cabinet. So nice to have a global setting so that all tonex pedal captures can have the cabinet turned off.
@@WHATTHECOVER I run a 4 cable method from my ISP Decimator noise gate. My pedal board effects go to the fxloop of the power station. Guitar goes into a couple pedals which goes into INPUT TONEX. The TONEX OUTPUT goes directly to the power station INPUT. (make sure to change power station input to LOW). Sound is amazing! I'm liking some of the tonex models better than my real amp heads.
I have the tonex one. It sounds good, but I'm having an issue. I do have the cab active, and I've adjusted the global gain and volume a lot, but the clean tones that I have as my dual models from the tonex software sound significantly more overdriven and crunchy when I plug in the pedal and play it out of my PA or head phones compared to how they sound when I'm browsing in the software. What's up with that?
I'm feeding my Tonex pedal into the fx return of my fender gtx100. When I disable the cab it sounds awful. So, even though I'm playing through a real cab I still need the cab sim of Tonex.
@alexdenton6586 lol You should do the same with your back up hard drives too. Sounds smart 🤓. My headrush board has and eject option to safely eject it, not tonex. I'm not rich, can't afford new computer hard drive or tonex pedal each second day.
Great video! I’m having an issue with the Tonex PC application. My tone models and collections are gone. The titles are there but no presets show when I click on it. I had backed things up and then hit restore library when I accidentally overwrote a preset on my Tonex pedal. I wanted to revert it back, but everything else is gone except for the pedal’s presets and a small amount of random presets. I can’t access downloaded signature Joe Satriani collection or Tonex Max collections either. Any assistance would be appreciated.
but if using a guitar cab the cab section of the tone x should bypassed right? i have a boss gt 1000 as multi effects and a black star amped 1 poweramp and the tone x, how would you recommend doing the connection? tank you.
not sure if its me but I have all cabs including helix on and I run it to my amped1 then into blackstar 212 cab and it sound good imo.I have turned to can off when using a twin model then I adjust ot to match my blackstar cab but I rather use helix tonex cabs to blackstar because it sounds pretty close to my frfr headrush monitor.
I know, it sucks too only see the name of your preset 1 time then you can't see the rest of the name again, unless you turn to another preset and come back. I wish they would have fixed this.
Mine's quiet or as loud as an amp. You have a clean tone? Quiet. You have a cranked marshal with a boost in front? You get some noise, but the gate takes care of that, so idk man
i have the opposite problem and cant get it to sound good through my tube amp. ive tried the FX Return and also tried running it before the amp, and both sound terrible.
Jason, you start off by showing us a global feature to turn OFF if we want to run into a power amp and real speaker...but then show us a capture of your Archon 50...and you do not reveal the rest of your signal path. Are you running guitar into TONEX and straight into a 1/4" input on your interface? Are we hearing an unprocessed tone? It sounds good...but WHY does it sound good?
I would love a video where you start by downloading a couple amp captures (no cabinets), and show us live, how EVERYTHING is set on the TONEX pedal as you go from the download to using the fx return on an amp. And while you have an actual amp (Dirty Shirley seems like a good candidate), could you additionally show us captured overdrive and distortion pedals and sampling them into the front end of an amp...again directly showing us in real time the various setting within the TONEX that results in a natural sound? I was excited (as many users probably were) to be able to dowload 150 overdrive, distortion, and fuzz pedals into the TONEX, but to end up hearing tones that all have the same character to them.
Thank you!
Thank you Jason!
This was a setting I wasn't aware of.
I'm going through a rig rebuild where I use both the ToneX pedal and a Soldano Astro 20 as a preamp, (switched through the two loops of an HX Effects), then feed into the Astro for either playing through a cab or using the Astro's IR loader direct.
Using this setting saves me from re-saving all my ToneX presets without cabs, which is what I was planning on doing.
I encounter the same issue with various modeling pedals: the sound quality is poor when played through any speaker cabinet. While using headphones or connecting to a PC, the audio is excellent, but it deteriorates significantly when routed through an active speaker.
Has anyone found a solution to this problem? This challenge is the primary reason I haven’t transitioned from my tube amplifier setup, as nothing compares to the combination of a quality head and passive cabinet.
I am eager to embrace modeling technology, but this issue is currently holding me back.
Thanks for the help, this corrected by issue
do you see a practical application using tone models straight into a real guitar amp with preset cab turned off?
Yeah, on some presets it sounds like crap unless you turn the cab model off, while with others it sounds like crap unless you have the cab model on, at least in my experience. Weird…
Jason, great explanation. I had to learn this by trial and error. I'm one of those folks that runs my tonex pedal into a fryette power station into a real Marshall cabinet with greenbacks. Like you mentioned, sounds bad with cabinet speaker emulation/IR running in combination with a real cabinet. So nice to have a global setting so that all tonex pedal captures can have the cabinet turned off.
Hey ! Are you plug the guitar inside the INPUT TONEX, and the TONEX OUTPUT inside the FXLOOP return of the Power Station ?
@@WHATTHECOVER I run a 4 cable method from my ISP Decimator noise gate. My pedal board effects go to the fxloop of the power station. Guitar goes into a couple pedals which goes into INPUT TONEX. The TONEX OUTPUT goes directly to the power station INPUT. (make sure to change power station input to LOW). Sound is amazing! I'm liking some of the tonex models better than my real amp heads.
@@cscoioscscoios2768 thanks for the detailed answer !
I have the tonex one. It sounds good, but I'm having an issue. I do have the cab active, and I've adjusted the global gain and volume a lot, but the clean tones that I have as my dual models from the tonex software sound significantly more overdriven and crunchy when I plug in the pedal and play it out of my PA or head phones compared to how they sound when I'm browsing in the software. What's up with that?
I'm feeding my Tonex pedal into the fx return of my fender gtx100. When I disable the cab it sounds awful. So, even though I'm playing through a real cab I still need the cab sim of Tonex.
How do you eject your pedal from your computer? There's no options anywhere.
Did you try to unplug it ? It worked for me
You’re welcome
@alexdenton6586 lol
You should do the same with your back up hard drives too. Sounds smart 🤓.
My headrush board has and eject option to safely eject it, not tonex. I'm not rich, can't afford new computer hard drive or tonex pedal each second day.
@ it should be fine unplugging it
Great video! I’m having an issue with the Tonex PC application. My tone models and collections are gone. The titles are there but no presets show when I click on it. I had backed things up and then hit restore library when I accidentally overwrote a preset on my Tonex pedal. I wanted to revert it back, but everything else is gone except for the pedal’s presets and a small amount of random presets. I can’t access downloaded signature Joe Satriani collection or Tonex Max collections either. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Where would you want the cab light off? Thanks! Great videos ❤
If you’re running into a rig using a guitar cab (not full range cab), you’d want it off.
@@regortex3364 Thank you
but if using a guitar cab the cab section of the tone x should bypassed right? i have a boss gt 1000 as multi effects and a black star amped 1 poweramp and the tone x, how would you recommend doing the connection? tank you.
not sure if its me but I have all cabs including helix on and I run it to my amped1 then into blackstar 212 cab and it sound good imo.I have turned to can off when using a twin model then I adjust ot to match my blackstar cab but I rather use helix tonex cabs to blackstar because it sounds pretty close to my frfr headrush monitor.
Is there a way to get the screen to constantly scroll? Or is there the one option of scrolling once and then staying put?
I have often thought this. I don’t think the option exists currently.
I know, it sucks too only see the name of your preset 1 time then you can't see the rest of the name again, unless you turn to another preset and come back. I wish they would have fixed this.
anyone have this issue with the tonex one with tips for a fix?
Another thing to check - make sure you never run one cab IR into a second cab IR. It will sound godawful.
Having the same issue with TONEX One. I know how to get to the global Cab mode , but I do not hear any difference between cab on or off. Any idea????
How do you expect anyone to help out if your signal path is a mystery?
Nr is very strange... oscilates at the end...
0:55--00:57----Fellow Canadian detected....Cheers Eh.
applies to all modelers etc.. :)
Thanks Jason
I sold mine, one died after a month, the second one was so noisy you could hear it over the gate.
it's not the pedal , it is the power supply ! I had the same problem .
@@rudolfbagusat9267same, I resolved the issue by replacing my pedalboard power supply with one that had properly isolated outputs
@@rudolfbagusat9267 I'll stick with my Helix, but thanks for letting me know.
Mine's quiet or as loud as an amp. You have a clean tone? Quiet. You have a cranked marshal with a boost in front? You get some noise, but the gate takes care of that, so idk man