Siskel & Ebert Classics - 11/10/89 - The Little Mermaid, Steel Magnolias
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Plus HARLEM NIGHTS and VALMONT in this kickoff to the '89 holiday movie season. As a reminder, if you're looking for the latest home video reviews -- from Blu-Rays of classic catalog titles to the latest releases -- be sure to check out my own review site at www.andyfilm.com
I love the old commercials! 😁
Those stood out to me too. Back then, there was something a little more wholesome about them. Not to mention these days, most commercials are for insurance or pharmaceuticals.
@@footofjuniper8212true,however those chocolate cherries were 🤮
@@footofjuniper8212almost creepy how wholesome they were
20:20 I'm assuming this came off of local Boston or Hartford TV...the Bank of New England commercial with the Spenser author + a Celtics legend from the Bird era being a dead giveaway...
Steel Magnolias was my sister's favorite movie, may she RIP. And Ouiser was her favorite character.
I'm kind of glad that Gene's audio got cut off when he was talking about "Steel Magnolias"
haha at first i thought it was my bluetooth speaker crapping out, glad i wasn't the only one
In hindsight Roger really nailed it in regards to Eddie Murphy's career trajectory. By the late 80's Murphy had earned an insane amount of goodwill and creative power. That credibility ensured his survival through a few bad movies but one bad decision after another eventually caught up with him. I think Murphy fell into the trap of believing his own legend. The guy was huge because he was both funny and appealing to audiences. Like the scene in Trading Places when Murphy subtly breaks the fourth wall after Ralph Bellamy's character explains to him that bacon can be found in a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich. THAT is the Eddie Murphy who endeared himself to audiences. But after a while, he stopped winking at the audience. What followed were basically ill conceived vanity projects to showcase a type of talent he simply didn't possess. That's not to say funny people can't move into dramatic roles with great success. Adam Sandler gave a wonderful performance in Punch Drunk Love. But he also had Paul Thomas Anderson in the director's chair. Eddie Murphy was ultimately calling the shots by the time Harlem Nights came out. If Murphy had humbled himself and allowed a talented filmmaker like PTA to lead the way, things might have been different.
REST IN PEACE:
HARLEM NIGHTS: Della Reese, Redd Foxx, Richard Pryor, Danny Aiello, Thomas Mikal Ford, Charlie Murphy, Robin Harris, Mark Lipsky, George Bowers
THE LITTLE MERMAID: Kenneth Mars, Samuel E. Wright, Buddy Hackett, Paddy Edwards, Ben Wright, Will Ryan, René Auberjonois, Howard Ashman
STEEL MAGNOLIAS: Olympia Dukakis, Sam Shepard, Bill McCutcheon, Ann Wedgeworth, Bibi Besch, Herbert Ross, Ray Stark, Georges Delerue, John A. Alonzo
VALMONT: Milos Forman, Christopher Palmer, Miroslav Ondříček
Now add Pat Carroll to the _The Little Mermaid_ collection, I'm sorry to say.
Now i remember what the "tracking button" on VCRs are for.
6:17 first commercial break
7:51 start of the little mermaid segment
14:25 star of the Steel Magnolias segment
25:15 recap (they rant about how much they love Little Mermaid)
Harlem Nights had such potential. There aren't a lot of period movies about the Harlem Renaissance era. And to add in some noir-style elements, with Murphy and Prior's humor, it should have been awesome. But sometimes an idea sounds good on paper but just doesn't execute.
Are you kidding? Harlem Nights has always been a bonafied CLASSIC in the black community. It's by no means a perfect movie, but what it lacks in the more "expected" means of storytelling, it more than makes up for with it's no holds bar comedy from it's all-star LEGENDARY cast. You can't even count the quotable lines on one hand & even calling it cult classic would be criminal.
Gene Siskel mentions the racism, but yeah, what would you expect from a movie inspired by the Harlem Renaissance & loosely based on real events? The world around that era was an unforgiving reality for many; not polished & wrapped up in a PC bow because that was the genuine attitudes of the time--some of which many of the older castmembers actually experienced.
I respect Gene & Roger's opinions, but I gotta admit, I feel some sort of way about two white guys dictating the attitudes of an entire era; as if suggesting how they should feel.
I was happy to hear one of Ebert's main criticisms was that people back then just didn't talk like they do in the movie, because that is what occurred to me immediately when I heard the dialogue in the first clip. I haven't seen it myself, but you would think they at least could have made an effort to sound a LITTLE like people from that era.
Little Mermaid 👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Valmont 👍🌟🌟🌟
Steel Magnolias 👍🌟🌟🌟
Harlem Nights 👎🌟
Bro they thought Sebastian was gonna become as iconic as Jimminy cricket 😭😭😭
Under the Sea is a great moment. I prefer Les Poissons and Kiss the Girl. They were right though, this was a great return for Disney to animation
Harlem Nights 👎 (two thumbs down)
Little Mermaid (two thumbs up, way way up; timeless classic) 👍👍
Steel Magnolias (two thumbs up) 👍
Valmont (two thumbs up) 👍
Agree 💯%
It just occurred to me that everything Gene and Roger are saying about The animated Little Mermaid, I'm saying the same thing about the new Live-Action Little Mermaid! Word For Word!
Gene was not only right about the resurgence of animated films in the 90s but animation in TV is about to take off as well.
That 'renaissance' wasn't perfect though. Adult contemporary versions of movie songs in the charts, and the disappointing box office of Rescuers Down Under led to no more theatrical sequels, but instead direct-to-video sequels.
RIP Samuel E Wright and Pat Carroll
The advertisements are absolutely adorable or my goodness. I haven't seen a lot of commerical from the 80's!
I totally agree with them on their assessment of Eddie Murphy's movie. Around this time RAW, Eddie's last stand up movie, came out and it was raunchy too. And don't get me started on the hatred of women dynamic in these bodies of work. Given what we've heard about him over the years, it gives context as to why he writes what he does imo 🤔
Steel Magnolias wasn't a bad movie but Julia Roberts character grated on my nerves. The Little Mermaid will always be a great cartoon!
I like The Little Mermaid and Steel Magnolias.
It's not reggae, guys. It's calypso. Two totally different genres.
I know Harlem nights was a real big disappointment back in 1989 (35 years ago), but in my opinion, it's a guilty pleasure of mine in my opinion.
26:00 Right here Gene mentioned his mistake
It’s a borderline crime that Harlem Nights wasn’t good despite the absolute murderers row of comedic stars in it
Eddie Murphy's first -- and tellingly last -- directorial outing. For a reason.
I like Harlem Nights as a guilty pleasure, don't care what anybody says and I don't give a shit about The Little Mermaid.
Why comment if you don't care so strongly?
Strongly agree. I'm a child of the '80s and I've never seen The Little Mermaid. If one of my nieces demanded that I sit down with her and watch it or she'd never talk to me again, I'd say nice knowing you. However, Harlem Nights is funny. There's a lot of talent up there on the screen, and I loved seeing Eddie, Richard, Della and Redd bat the comedy ball back and forth.
@@gspendlove I respect your opinion man, did you ever get to see Back To The Future Part II and National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation back in 1989, btw.
@@oldfashionedguy1368 Didn't see NLCV or BTTF II till later, when they were on video. A childhood friend of mine named Jason absolutely loved BTTF back in '85, and saw it so many times he could quote from it. I hadn't seen it yet and he kept telling me, "You gotta see it, you gotta see it." He was so looking forward to seeing Part II and what was happening with Marty's kids, but he died after heart surgery in 1988, when he was 19 years old. And all I could think about while I was watching Part II was how much he would've loved all the twists and turns in that story. So I couldn't properly enjoy it because I wished he could've been watching it with me. I thought the second Vacation movie....well, stunk, basically, so I didn't want to see CV. TBH, I was so indifferent to it I was barely aware of its existence. But when I did catch it years later, I thought it was pretty good (and funny!), a vast improvement over EV.
You are a sad, strange little man and you have my pity. Farewell
Harlem nights made 95 million against a 30 million dollar budget
What’s your point?
Eddie Murphy y Prior juntos hacían 95 millones así la película fuera sobre sentarse a ver cómo seca la pintura de una pared
$60M was a major dud for Murphy at that point. But beyond that, Roger didn't say the movie wouldn't be successful; he said eventually Murphy's goodwill would no longer be enough to guarantee box office success. It didn't take long for him to be proven correct, from the mid-'90s through the 2000s, almost all of Murphy's hits were animated films or reboots of existing franchises (e.g., The Nutty Professor).
I think I'd rather eat that old woman's lumpy gravy than watch any of these movies.
Any of them? Including *The Little Mermaid*?
These guys don't feel creepy siting in a theatre watching a film aimed at pre-teen girls?
No, because it's a film aimed for the whole family. All genders and ages can enjoy it.