Now that’s cool. Someone still making the vintage dry suits all this time and looks like great quality as well. Thanks fir another tech tip and stay safe u and your family
This is the videos I like the most! Vintage + Alec Pierce + Scuba, learning history, having fun and expanding my scuba comprehension. Thanks! Will be great to see more videos of this mighty New Vintage Rubber Drysuit, like expierience of diving with udewear bit deeper like open water for example.
I would like to see a video on the man who takes all the jokes without the chance for any come backs. Let's meet Kevin! I think he deserves his own video at this point. Whether it's on At The Ranch or Scuba Tech Tips Let's meet the man behind the camera!
Oh Spencer, you don't want to see Kevin. He has a face only for radio!!! Hope we have many more years of tips before ending. I have lots of ideas to share but we are being very safe this year and only shooting every 3 months or so. Still have more coming to make you a safer and smarter diver.
I bought that drysuit, to use will diving as a HASMAT suit during the BP spill off Louisiana. IT worked great. Mine fit tighter, giving my gut a Sixpack .
Oh my gosh this was so cool!!!! Vintage diver in a vintage wetsuit with a vintage regulator. I felt like I was watching dive history, and the fact you can get all that stuff now just makes it even cooler! I was wondering how the diver handled suit squeeze with a rubber suit, then Alec answered my question: you don't. Ouch. I think I stick with my trilam, but this was a great video. Thanks Alec.
I've watched many of your videos Alex, but don't think I've seen you this happy before. You looked like a school kid who just got off for summer break! Great video, and good tag for Vintage Double Hose. I'm looking at some slightly older single hose regs and have been reading their info on rebuilding them. Great website.
Glad you like them Nat. I'm always happy when I can get back to my long ago youth using the old gear. I first started diving back in 1958 when using rocks to help descend was typical!
I'm amazed that it works with an integrated hood with the face seal - I fully expected that to leak like crazy. Looks like modern drysuit makers could learn a few tricks from the retro guys... That suit squeeze though - makes me wince just thinking about it!
The hood is snug all around like the cuffs and waist. There is some squeeze but because its still an open cuff, not fully closed like a modern dry suit, its not so bad.
More "proper" rubber dry suits are still made in Finland by family business called Sukelluspuku Loitokari Oy. They are made from a thicker rubber and have inflate and exhaust valves like a normal suit. The hood, gloves and boots are all integrated and the only seal against your skin is on the face like with the suit shown in the video. You can wear as much or as little undergarments as you need depending on the water temperature.
Did you know, a similar vintage-style chest entry latex drysuit is still regularly used by Chinese fishermen or pearl farmers. Surprisingly they are still made by a Chinese company of the apparent name "Donuawaders" (websearch it). Their suits are more loose fitting than western counterparts, and exist in black, beige or a kind of pink. Versions with or without hood and either boots or diving socks exist. Beside the classic chest entry (aka "tunnel entry") there is also a slightly more expensive variant (not sealed enough for diving?) with zip in front of a folded rubber gasket. Instead of "drysuit" these exotic things tend to be mostly offered under confusing Engrish names like "fishing waders" and can be only found on import websites like AliExpress or Taobao (or overpriced on eBay). The material they are made of is listed as 1mm Gyrosigma rubber.
I jumped in the middle of the video, just by accident (Min 4:40) aaaaaaaand THX God for letting us know that this is a scuba diving "drysuit", otherwise it could happen to think that's the latest model of a sexy latex jump suit out of the around the corner sex shop 😳🤣👌. Cheers
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Latex is not just for sex. Much earlier than all that "fetish" marketing, inflatable latex suits were used by spiritualists for trance to communicate with the spirit realm. Trance suits are still in use for meditation.
Someone is pulling your leg Alex. That's a fetish BDSM latex rubber suit lol. On a serious note, I had a buddy who had a dry hood and once forgot his under cap. He decided to continue and have the dive but because the hood sealed over his ears he ended up blowing out both ear drums with the squeeze
Oh I thought of that Auto but I actually used these suits for many years (not it the way your thinking!). The hood is very snug and ear problems may be a problem is you're not careful. Thanks for the feedback and laugh.
Latex is not BDSM! Much earlier than all that "fetish" marketing nonsense, inflatable latex suits were used by spiritualists for trance to communicate with the spirit realm. Trance suits are still in use for meditation. Against suit squeeze, you can blow air by mouth down through the lower rim of the hood into the suit, which takes some skill.
Hi Alec, I’m an older diver/ snorkeler. Barascubas and Aquanights out of Hamilton. I’m mainly snorkeling now and I’ve always used wetsuits. Dobsons,Bobs Sport n’Dive. I feel the cold a lot more now, especially my hands. I really don’t want to invest in an expensive dry suit but I’ve always wanted one. Could you please recommend an older or vintage dry suit I might be able to get. Thankyou
Hello neighbour. If you want to avoid the cost of a drysuit but need warm hands, then try heated wetsuits. Watch video S13E20 "Heated vest for divers" for core heating plus search for heated scuba gloves. There are a few (make sure they are wet and not for dry suits). I'm with you on loving diving but not the cold. These two heating units plus an excellent 7mm should keep you comfortable without a big ticket price. Give it a look and visit your LDS's for their ideas and fitting. A
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Thankyou very much Alex. I was Googling dry suits and I came across your channel. I will definitely check out the heated vests,accessories that are available. Also,I’ll subscribe to your channel…love the fact you’re local. You’ve got a great sense of humour. Our family,my parents,used to Dive at Toby and many of the local quarries in the 60’s and 70’s. You said,” hello neighbor,”do you live close by? You did mention Lake Simcoe in one of your videos.
I want the one where you can just step out of it and reveal your immaculate cream tux and bow tie. Seriously though, I can see suit squeeze being a real problem once you get past pool depths. Did people have to just eat a lot of Mexican food before diving?
Ha just like Arnold did in the movie True Lies!!! Squeeze can be a bit tight but as it's not completed sealed like a modern dry suit, you can pull out the cuffs to get air/water into reduce the squeeze marks.
Oh I dived with all the 'vintage gear' when it was new! It's only vintage looking back but todays gear is so much more comfortable, safe and easy to use. Not a lot I would like to see modernized, just in bigger sizes for my older vintage friends. Kevin's Aqua-Lung reg is a 1975 model upgraded by vintagedoublehose.com to modern standards. Still looks old but works so much better than the original.
I don't try to be but after 60+ years of diving and owning dozens of dive stores, I'm pretty set in my presentation style. Appreciate your watching and my crazy humour.
I am looking to one of these suits, first time getting a dry suit, all I have read on the net is that you will get squezed by the pressure of water, however since I saw you diving with this suit, is the squeze bearable to dive up to 5 meters with weights with a snorkel wearing this kind of suit?
There is no real squeeze like in a drysuit as water can enter to equalize. It's a snug fit to stop water flushing through but not problem on any recreational dive. Give them a try. Lot cheater, less maintenance than a proper dry suit. A
To get into such a suit, you may add silicone oil or water based lubricant to prevent tackiness. Do not pull by raw force (especially no fingernails), else it may tear.
Hi Alec.. They still use these types of drysuits in Norway. It is called Viking (fitting name) and it's Norwegian produced. The Company Viking of Stavanger, Norway started to make rubber scuba suits back in the 50-60s and was the only suits american oilworkers wanted to use while offshore diving in Norway back in the 70s. Here is an image of todays drysuit still in use images.finncdn.no/dynamic/320w/2019/1/vertical-5/23/5/138/764/855_919255858.jpg
Thats a big guy in a suit all right. The one I'm wearing is for warmer waters unless putting on layers underneath. It's not a dry suit but can be better than a wet suit is some instances. Thanks for sharing Tom.
Glad to help Miguel. Suggest watching my Vintage Scuba S05E12 where I cover cleaning, spraying and storing old rubber products. If you watch my Vintage Scuba series and see how many items are 50+ years old and still look great, its because of how I preserve and store items. Good luck sir.
Store latex completely dry in a dark box in an airtight PE/PP plastic bag because ozone and the combination of oxygen+UV light decomposes it. Do not let it come in contact with metal (particularly copper or silver), fat or oil (except silicone oil). Against stickiness add corn starch powder (talc damages the lung and makes allergic against latex). You may also use silicone oil, but it may be less effective because the starch also neutralizes small amounts of sulphuric acid that may get produced by the sulphur in decaying rubber.
So many people freak out over that, and it's silly. The "ascend" hand signal is properly a thumb pointed up and *moving* up and down. A stationary thumb up or one thrust forward is a "Fonz." ;-)
@@seikibrian8641 Actually, I was being ironic. Still, if there’s an official dive sign, you should stick to it. Things can get messy when everyone makes variations and expects the others to figure out what they mean.
Here is were to get what I'm wearing: ▶︎ Hydroglove: www.HydroGlove.com - Drysuits, Accessories, Rain/Wet Weather Gear, Swim Wear - All-rubber frogman suits for collectors, surfers and vintage divers.
My inspiration for scuba was Mike Nelson from "Sea Hunt". I wanted to dive with sharks, catch the bad guys and kiss a girl after the dive. Only 2 of the 3 came true!
Great video!!! I consider you a very professional person, albeit personable. Being professional, do you ever find yourself diving a thumbs up when you should give the OK sign? The reason I ask, you seem like the kind of guy that would give a thumbs up when encouraging people to say "good job."
Even though I don't like cold water anymore, used to love ice diving, there is still great diving in cool to cold waters. From British Columbia up to Alaska on the west coast has amazing critters, wrecks and icebergs. If you can be comfortable in a dry suit or thick wetsuits, give it a try or watch from shore. Thanks for watching.
AFAIK you could blow air into the suit by pulling the neck seal over the mouth, which however takes some skill. The entire suit is a bit acrobatic, but I am surprised that Chinese fisherman and pearl farmers still regularly(!) wear similar latex things known as "fishing waders", apparently made by Donuawaders.
I ordered one of these hydroglove drysuits A YEAR and 1/2 ago. Nothing but crap, 1st suit he sent had patches all over it and it had pin holes in the legs. Horrible service, horrible product. I wouldn't recommend this company to anyone. I finally requested a refund because I still didn't have my suit and it didn't look like I ever would get it. Excuse after excuse.
That is disappointing. My version for this demo was fine. Keep at them for satisfaction. If nothing soon, contact me at aleccpeirce@gmail.com with a summary of the problem. I'll take it to him. A
Oooh! Now I understand those old pictures! Thanks for telling us about it 😊
Happy to help!
That double hose looks beautiful!
It's Kevin's restored 1975 Aqua-Master. Look back at a past Tech Tips to see its modern features in detail.
Wow! Who would have thought rubber! Great video. I had a smile on my face from start to finish!😃
Glad you enjoyed it! I wore these suits for many years, kept me dry, not too warm, but that's all we could afford.
Now that’s cool. Someone still making the vintage dry suits all this time and looks like great quality as well. Thanks fir another tech tip and stay safe u and your family
I am Will. I'm a little surprised at the number of divers who did not know these were still used. An inexpensive alternate to a modern dry suit.
So it is a vintage moment can make your eye shine from the young Alec in 2020 enjoy old modern equiment.
Thanks very much Alesio.
This is the videos I like the most! Vintage + Alec Pierce + Scuba, learning history, having fun and expanding my scuba comprehension. Thanks!
Will be great to see more videos of this mighty New Vintage Rubber Drysuit, like expierience of diving with udewear bit deeper like open water for example.
Wow, thank you!
I would like to see a video on the man who takes all the jokes without the chance for any come backs. Let's meet Kevin! I think he deserves his own video at this point. Whether it's on At The Ranch or Scuba Tech Tips Let's meet the man behind the camera!
Oh Spencer, you don't want to see Kevin. He has a face only for radio!!! Hope we have many more years of tips before ending. I have lots of ideas to share but we are being very safe this year and only shooting every 3 months or so. Still have more coming to make you a safer and smarter diver.
I bought that drysuit, to use will diving as a HASMAT suit during the BP spill off Louisiana. IT worked great. Mine fit tighter, giving my gut a Sixpack .
Well that's a use I had not thought of before. Thanks for letting me know Toby and for watching.
Awesome video! Old days were so cool!
They were a time of great innovation and experimenting. How many divers today would put on an all rubber 2 piece drysuit and be glad to have it?
NICE VEDIO. HELLO FROM EGYPT
Thanks and welcome. Loved diving the Red Sea years ago.
Oh my gosh this was so cool!!!! Vintage diver in a vintage wetsuit with a vintage regulator. I felt like I was watching dive history, and the fact you can get all that stuff now just makes it even cooler!
I was wondering how the diver handled suit squeeze with a rubber suit, then Alec answered my question: you don't. Ouch. I think I stick with my trilam, but this was a great video. Thanks Alec.
Sure is but they are made better today. Lots of fun vintage diving.
Against suit squeeze, you can blow air by mouth down through the lower rim of the hood into the suit, which takes some skill.
I've watched many of your videos Alex, but don't think I've seen you this happy before. You looked like a school kid who just got off for summer break!
Great video, and good tag for Vintage Double Hose. I'm looking at some slightly older single hose regs and have been reading their info on rebuilding them. Great website.
Glad you like them Nat. I'm always happy when I can get back to my long ago youth using the old gear. I first started diving back in 1958 when using rocks to help descend was typical!
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter But boy sometimes you need a lot of rocks
I miss good old vintage scuba videos
Working on new ones. Have to make more as they are Kevin’s favourites.
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@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter You have made my day Sir
I'm amazed that it works with an integrated hood with the face seal - I fully expected that to leak like crazy. Looks like modern drysuit makers could learn a few tricks from the retro guys... That suit squeeze though - makes me wince just thinking about it!
The hood is snug all around like the cuffs and waist. There is some squeeze but because its still an open cuff, not fully closed like a modern dry suit, its not so bad.
The company also does one that seals at the neck like a normal suit
Against suit squeeze, you can blow air by mouth down through the lower rim of the hood into the suit, which takes some skill.
More "proper" rubber dry suits are still made in Finland by family business called Sukelluspuku Loitokari Oy. They are made from a thicker rubber and have inflate and exhaust valves like a normal suit. The hood, gloves and boots are all integrated and the only seal against your skin is on the face like with the suit shown in the video. You can wear as much or as little undergarments as you need depending on the water temperature.
That sounds like a warm option. Thanks for sharing.
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Did you know, a similar vintage-style chest entry latex drysuit is still regularly used by Chinese fishermen or pearl farmers.
Surprisingly they are still made by a Chinese company of the apparent name "Donuawaders" (websearch it). Their suits are more loose fitting than western counterparts, and exist in black, beige or a kind of pink. Versions with or without hood and either boots or diving socks exist. Beside the classic chest entry (aka "tunnel entry") there is also a slightly more expensive variant (not sealed enough for diving?) with zip in front of a folded rubber gasket.
Instead of "drysuit" these exotic things tend to be mostly offered under confusing Engrish names like "fishing waders" and can be only found on import websites like AliExpress or Taobao (or overpriced on eBay). The material they are made of is listed as 1mm Gyrosigma rubber.
Did not know that, thanks for sharing. For us vintage divers, this is the same as 1960's home made suits but fit at don't leak. Take care.
dude thank you so much for this comment! I'm definitely getting one of these!
I jumped in the middle of the video, just by accident (Min 4:40) aaaaaaaand THX God for letting us know that this is a scuba diving "drysuit", otherwise it could happen to think that's the latest model of a sexy latex jump suit out of the around the corner sex shop 😳🤣👌.
Cheers
Well my wife thinks I'm sexy, but also crazy so it averages out. Thanks for watching and sorry for the scare.
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter
"I'm sexy and I know it..." 😉
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Latex is not just for sex. Much earlier than all that "fetish" marketing, inflatable latex suits were used by spiritualists for trance to communicate with the spirit realm. Trance suits are still in use for meditation.
@@AerialTheShamen Can you please share some of whatever you are smoking with me?
@@VoorTrekker88 Drugs are sin! I never abuse any.
Someone is pulling your leg Alex. That's a fetish BDSM latex rubber suit lol. On a serious note, I had a buddy who had a dry hood and once forgot his under cap. He decided to continue and have the dive but because the hood sealed over his ears he ended up blowing out both ear drums with the squeeze
Oh I thought of that Auto but I actually used these suits for many years (not it the way your thinking!). The hood is very snug and ear problems may be a problem is you're not careful. Thanks for the feedback and laugh.
Latex is not BDSM! Much earlier than all that "fetish" marketing nonsense, inflatable latex suits were used by spiritualists for trance to communicate with the spirit realm. Trance suits are still in use for meditation.
Against suit squeeze, you can blow air by mouth down through the lower rim of the hood into the suit, which takes some skill.
Hi Alec, I’m an older diver/ snorkeler. Barascubas and Aquanights out of Hamilton. I’m mainly snorkeling now and I’ve always used wetsuits. Dobsons,Bobs Sport n’Dive. I feel the cold a lot more now, especially my hands. I really don’t want to invest in an expensive dry suit but I’ve always wanted one. Could you please recommend an older or vintage dry suit I might be able to get. Thankyou
Hello neighbour. If you want to avoid the cost of a drysuit but need warm hands, then try heated wetsuits. Watch video S13E20 "Heated vest for divers" for core heating plus search for heated scuba gloves. There are a few (make sure they are wet and not for dry suits). I'm with you on loving diving but not the cold. These two heating units plus an excellent 7mm should keep you comfortable without a big ticket price. Give it a look and visit your LDS's for their ideas and fitting.
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@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Thankyou very much Alex. I was Googling dry suits and I came across your channel. I will definitely check out the heated vests,accessories that are available. Also,I’ll subscribe to your channel…love the fact you’re local. You’ve got a great sense of humour. Our family,my parents,used to Dive at Toby and many of the local quarries in the 60’s and 70’s. You said,” hello neighbor,”do you live close by? You did mention Lake Simcoe in one of your videos.
this video i think is a tech tip and vintage scuba
I thought about it for Vintage Scuba but I know lots of west coast divers who still use an all rubber suit today. Thanks for watching Matthew.
alec that is a good modern twist on a old drysuit
I want the one where you can just step out of it and reveal your immaculate cream tux and bow tie. Seriously though, I can see suit squeeze being a real problem once you get past pool depths. Did people have to just eat a lot of Mexican food before diving?
Ha just like Arnold did in the movie True Lies!!! Squeeze can be a bit tight but as it's not completed sealed like a modern dry suit, you can pull out the cuffs to get air/water into reduce the squeeze marks.
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter you'd let water in? Not where I dive, at least not on purpose!
Hi alec
The adage everything old is new again.
Double hoses ,now rubber dry suit.
What other vintage gear would you like to see again ?
Oh I dived with all the 'vintage gear' when it was new! It's only vintage looking back but todays gear is so much more comfortable, safe and easy to use. Not a lot I would like to see modernized, just in bigger sizes for my older vintage friends.
Kevin's Aqua-Lung reg is a 1975 model upgraded by vintagedoublehose.com to modern standards. Still looks old but works so much better than the original.
Alec Love your videos!!! Time for a collaboration with Divers Ready! Please!!!
That is the only other SCUBA youtube channel I watch besides this one. Alec is a lot funnier though.
Maybe one day but for now I'm not taking any chances with COVID. I'm old and have lots more to share. Thanks for watching Richard.
I don't try to be but after 60+ years of diving and owning dozens of dive stores, I'm pretty set in my presentation style. Appreciate your watching and my crazy humour.
Could you imagine the squeeze on a tek dive
Ouch, its not 100% sealed so not as bad as a modern drysuit going deep.
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter can you do some vids on Rebreathers for us silent divers
I am looking to one of these suits, first time getting a dry suit, all I have read on the net is that you will get squezed by the pressure of water, however since I saw you diving with this suit, is the squeze bearable to dive up to 5 meters with weights with a snorkel wearing this kind of suit?
There is no real squeeze like in a drysuit as water can enter to equalize. It's a snug fit to stop water flushing through but not problem on any recreational dive. Give them a try. Lot cheater, less maintenance than a proper dry suit.
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I have a hard enough time getting in my regular drysuit, I think trying to get myself in one of those would dry me nuts.
It can be a two person job if your not flexible (like me).
To get into such a suit, you may add silicone oil or water based lubricant to prevent tackiness. Do not pull by raw force (especially no fingernails), else it may tear.
Hi Alec.. They still use these types of drysuits in Norway. It is called Viking (fitting name) and it's Norwegian produced. The Company Viking of Stavanger, Norway started to make rubber scuba suits back in the 50-60s and was the only suits american oilworkers wanted to use while offshore diving in Norway back in the 70s. Here is an image of todays drysuit still in use images.finncdn.no/dynamic/320w/2019/1/vertical-5/23/5/138/764/855_919255858.jpg
Thats a big guy in a suit all right. The one I'm wearing is for warmer waters unless putting on layers underneath. It's not a dry suit but can be better than a wet suit is some instances. Thanks for sharing Tom.
Hi Alec, I spoke to you about the Bauer KA10B dive compressor not so long ago. If you are interested I have got it going and have listed it on eBay!
Repeat comment.
Hey Alec, it is Miguel from the Conc republic (Florida). What is the best way to preserver rubber products, at home?
Glad to help Miguel. Suggest watching my Vintage Scuba S05E12 where I cover cleaning, spraying and storing old rubber products. If you watch my Vintage Scuba series and see how many items are 50+ years old and still look great, its because of how I preserve and store items. Good luck sir.
Store latex completely dry in a dark box in an airtight PE/PP plastic bag because ozone and the combination of oxygen+UV light decomposes it. Do not let it come in contact with metal (particularly copper or silver), fat or oil (except silicone oil). Against stickiness add corn starch powder (talc damages the lung and makes allergic against latex). You may also use silicone oil, but it may be less effective because the starch also neutralizes small amounts of sulphuric acid that may get produced by the sulphur in decaying rubber.
Was that a thumb up for saying ok at 7:15 ? I'm shocked!!
Oh my bad. Good eyes Leo!
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Never mind, it can happen to the best - obviously. 😁
So many people freak out over that, and it's silly. The "ascend" hand signal is properly a thumb pointed up and *moving* up and down. A stationary thumb up or one thrust forward is a "Fonz." ;-)
@@seikibrian8641 Actually, I was being ironic. Still, if there’s an official dive sign, you should stick to it. Things can get messy when everyone makes variations and expects the others to figure out what they mean.
WHERE CAN I BUY ONE OF THESE RUBBER DRY SUITS
Here is were to get what I'm wearing:
▶︎ Hydroglove: www.HydroGlove.com
- Drysuits, Accessories, Rain/Wet Weather Gear, Swim Wear
- All-rubber frogman suits for collectors, surfers and vintage divers.
I dove one of these a few years back. I stayed completely dry.
They can be lots of fun but getting into them may require two people. Glad you like this video.
Does it have a P valve?
No, on piece bottom with feet. But what real diver needs that?
Who inspired you when you went "long diving" for the first time?
My inspiration for scuba was Mike Nelson from "Sea Hunt". I wanted to dive with sharks, catch the bad guys and kiss a girl after the dive. Only 2 of the 3 came true!
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter hahaha good to hear. Love your videos keep putting them out and by the way you inspire me.
Great video!!!
I consider you a very professional person, albeit personable. Being professional, do you ever find yourself diving a thumbs up when you should give the OK sign? The reason I ask, you seem like the kind of guy that would give a thumbs up when encouraging people to say "good job."
Sometimes I get too excited but still use the OK signal. Thanks for watching Erikk.
If the water is cold enough for a drysuit, I don't need to be in it. Also, I dislike the way a drysuit squeezes you like a vacuum-bagged chicken leg.
Even though I don't like cold water anymore, used to love ice diving, there is still great diving in cool to cold waters. From British Columbia up to Alaska on the west coast has amazing critters, wrecks and icebergs. If you can be comfortable in a dry suit or thick wetsuits, give it a try or watch from shore. Thanks for watching.
AFAIK you could blow air into the suit by pulling the neck seal over the mouth, which however takes some skill. The entire suit is a bit acrobatic, but I am surprised that Chinese fisherman and pearl farmers still regularly(!) wear similar latex things known as "fishing waders", apparently made by Donuawaders.
here ebcause i want a suit thats plastic free
If you want plastic free, this is an all rubber suit. Enjoy.
I ordered one of these hydroglove drysuits A YEAR and 1/2 ago. Nothing but crap, 1st suit he sent had patches all over it and it had pin holes in the legs. Horrible service, horrible product. I wouldn't recommend this company to anyone. I finally requested a refund because I still didn't have my suit and it didn't look like I ever would get it. Excuse after excuse.
That is disappointing. My version for this demo was fine. Keep at them for satisfaction. If nothing soon, contact me at aleccpeirce@gmail.com with a summary of the problem. I'll take it to him.
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@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter He already gave up on making one for me and refunded my money.