"Unlike prophets, churchmen are the product of institutions. In the safety and permanence of institutions they put their trust. They resolutely oppose the prophets whom they accuse of disturbing their repose and rocking the boat." - Nibley
I feel like this topic is the reason that the Church has been on a temple building spree. When you come from a privileged background, and then you are employed in a cushy job for life with all your earthly needs fulfilled, you really only have to worry about eternity. So the solution is all their problems is to build temples. If the top leadership came from more profoundly humble places in life, they would remember that there are so many temporal needs that need to be fulfilled before a person can go on to worrying about their eternity. The usage of Church funds would likely dramatically change toward more humanitarian spending.
I firmly agree with this. If the temple is of God, then would God be more pleased with 1000's of temples or with all his children taken care of? I think the answer is obvious. Are we more pleased with great works of art, or our own children being taken care of?
@@uncorrelatedmormonismI don’t believe God dwells in temples made by man on his footstool for they did care more for the adorning of their temples then the poor and sick
Very clear discernment Emily. Our backgrounds and life situations absolutely influence our priorities of focus in life, and it is clear with these false shepherds as to where their priorities lie. @@elginmcbride Exactly. Acts 17:24 "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;" But he did say he will make his abode in those individuals who truly love and follow him (as man's tabernacle is not made with hands, but made by God and in the image of God): "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him" John 14:23
The greatest mortal prophet to walk the Earth lived in the desert, didn't shave, wore animal skins, and ate bugs. Yet he was endowed by heaven to overthrow the corrupt church of his day. That church began in purity, according to the lesser law. Over time it decayed, added to and took away from the commandments, changed the ordinances, and became corrupted by aspiring men. When the Israelites failed to ascend God's mountain in the desert, Moses and the high priesthood were taken from them. They were left with caretakers like Joshua, and then eventually kings like David. None of these leaders ever approached the same level of authority and power as Moses had, until John. Joseph Smith tried and failed to bring about Zion. D&C 124 specifically states that the high priesthood was taken from the church and that a temple (Nauvoo) was needed so that the Lord could restore it. That temple was never completed and therefore the church does not have that priesthood to this day. Joseph was murdered. His successor Hyrum was also murdered. Therefore, the church was left without a prophet, seer, and revelator. This is plainly stated in scripture and is indisputable. The idea that apostles ascend to the first presidency or that spiritual gifts automatically pass to the next senior leader in line is completely unsupported in the scriptures. Therefore, the church was again left in the care of lesser men. Brigham schemed his way to the top and, by many accounts, was like Saul. Powerful and rich, but without any spiritual gifts. A man cannot be a prophet when he specifically states (at the end of his life) that he'd never even seen an angel. That folly continued through his successors. What began in purity decayed steadily into the corporate church we see today. What remains is nothing like what Joseph established, drawing near to God with their lips but who display all the hallmarks of priestcraft. Whited sepulchers, indeed.
This is very true. Upon reflection, it is such a silly concept to think that apostolic seniority should be used to select the next prophet of God. God should be the one to select his next prophet, not the arbitrary time of who has been the apostle the longest. It is also very true that prophets of God shouldn't automatically look like successful men of the world. In the scriptures the prophets were almost always the weird ones on the fringe.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism I do agree with you. Unfortunately, this argument gets hit with the response that "Well, God DOES select his next prophet by controlling the outcome of who dies when!"
@@OmahaAreaLoya Yes this is the classic response however it is unfalsifiable so we really can't logically discuss it at all. This is the same concept that God would delete a prophet when he was going to stray.
It's all a moot point because Christ is the final Prophet, Priest, and King. He has no succor. If your bible has the word "church," it's a bad translation. It doesn't belong. Believers are Kingdom citizens (that's not of the earth, nor made by hands). There was no such thing as a great apostacy. His gospel is everlasting. There's so many false doctrines to unlearn as a "recovering mormon."
@@DangerMountain I do agree with you. However the word "apostasy" could be described as a general falling away. Certainly there were times were generally people were God's people and generally they were not.
Unlike in 1832, when Jesus Christ referred to His nascent Church as ““…the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually“ (D&C 1), the LDS Church devolved into what the Holy Ghost now refers to as a “dead faith” (DE#53). Executive managers call themselves prophets, seers, and revelators, but don’t function in that capacity. Would to God they would perform this role.
@uncorrelatedmormonism That's a good point. The church has evolved in a zillion different ways since that time. But somehow that scripture is meant to prove that this current version of the church is 100% correct. 🤷♀️
@@emilysnow6757 My stake president actually told me that. He basically said how can I disagree with the church when God himself said the church was perfect. How do you have a discussion with a person who thinks like that?
No man can Serve God and Mammon... especially the self-proclaimed anointed of Christ's Church on the Earth. Money and Power were not the way of The Master.
This is perhaps one of the most telling signs of the organization being run by businessmen and doctors, and not of God- how integrated money is in every aspect of the church and how much is being amassed, when Jesus said to not build up treasures on earth. If one seeks to apply Jesus' true teachings from the Gospels, you see that the Mormon church contradicts almost every single one
A list of the highest paying tithing contributors in the stake is often used by general authorities when choosing a new stake presidency. This should come as no surprise to anyone.
I have heard that before. It wouldn't surprise me. There does seem to be a correlation between leadership callings and job. This could be because of income or leadership abilities. However, having leadership abilities doesn't necessarily make a good spiritual leader. Often, I would think it makes a worse spiritual leader.
@@uncorrelatedmormonismthat makes sense. And, in the business world, efficiency is celebrated and rewarded. Spiritual leadership is incompatible with the concept of efficiency as every person is different and may require a different approach. The church may be more efficient these days, but is it more spiritual?
@@robocoxogreat reflections. It's true, the Spirit leaves when business efficiency and money become the things that run the "kingdom." When Jesus said all along, "my Kingdom is not of this world."
Not only are leaders admired and praised by members of the church and the world for their successful careers and achievements, but if you notice, they haven't had any opposition in their lives either. Have leaders become like the leaders of the church when Christ was upon the earth? Only the highly educated and successful elites could become the leaders. Remember, Christ did not come from among them in the church. Christ was considered an outsider. They considered Him an enemy. Question.... Why does the Lord say, He is going to send another servant and prophet to take back His vineyard (church), throw down their tower (Salt Lake Temple) and scatter them. Do the leaders today parallel the leaders of Christ time. Were not the leaders and Jews scattered and their temple thrown down and destroyed not long after Christ death. I believe history is repeating itself, just in a different way. Instead of the Jews, it's the Mormons, and instead of Christ, it's a servant. This servant and prophet is the last one who will actually usher in the second coming of Christ. This servant, like Christ, would be considered an outsider. Like Christ, his identity has been hidden until it's his time. Christ was among the leaders and the people, and they knew him not. Not til it was His time. I believe this last servant is now among the people, and they know it not. But sonn they will. For it will be this last servant time.
I have noticed this. I am not sure specifics about the last servant; however I doubt he is going to be among the top leadership and people think. Being in the top leadership warps people's minds. As you said they have no opposition and go from adoring fan base to adoring fan base. I suspect the last servant is going to be a nobody that simply seems to have all the right answers. People will hate him, but they will fear his truth more. At that time people will have to decide do they trust in God more, or the organizations of men more. It will be a very hard challenge for a lot of people.
This last servant is not coming to bring peace as thought during Christ time when He was upon the earth. The Jews throught the Messiah was going to bring peace. Instead, He brought division and destruction. I believe this servant is coming to bring division among the church and its members also. He is bringing judgment and punishment that will begin in the Lord's house. And from there it will go upon this nation and then to all nations. As for the gathering, the only one who can gather in the righteous and the tribes of Israel is the Lord Himself. For no man has that power or authority to do so. Either on this side or the other side. For Christ is the only one who knows one's true intent, and the pure in heart. He is also the only who knows who Israel is and where the they are located. @uncorrelatedmormonism
@@keith5459 quite sound understanding of the role and station of that servant. You are correct of course, he will be called directly of God, having communed directly with Him, and will be prepared as a shaft in His quiver. He will break all the molds that are of men and of culture in the Lord's House, which frankly, is almost all of them at this point. He will teach the pure and simple Doctrine of Jesus Christ and will always point to his Master, and not himself: 'behold my servant, in whom I rejoice; my chosen son, with whom I am pleased: he shall go forth from darkness into light, to be a light to the remnant of my people, and a scourge to the wicked of that generation. The sons of the earth shall behold my arm, which I shall bear unto them; unto the ragged and marred apprarance they shall say, there is a wild one among us, there is a scourge in our midst- go ye out from among us, yea, purge us no more. Yet shall my hand bring justice to the nations, and my covenant shall judge with equity the meek. In that day shall the pride of men fail them, and the Lord alone shall be exalted. My son shall speak no word of his own glory, for he shall be raised to know he hath no glory, having lived among filthy men; nevertheless he shall say unto men: prepare ye the way of the LORD, for the day cometh that shall burn as an oven. For my right hand shall do my work in that day, yea, shall my hand prepare unto me a fortified and strengthened City of Priests, that my rest among men may be glorious.'
The truth will be given to another people..or the church will change. Hopefully both. It appears both are happening due to the honesty and love of many members. Its the lords and the members church...not the leaders. Peace.
It does seem that God operates through a partnership with man. God wants to make us "godly", however he seems to allow it to be done in a human way. I think this is the beauty in how God operates. He creates distinct entities or forms and then brings them to his level. I would imagine his realm is filled with all sorts of different entities that are uniquely godly while also being uniquely themselves.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism agreed, by allowing human error and limits in knoweldge to be involved with our learning..he allows us free agency and shows us wisdom and love..intent...the heart etc..is above knoweldge. imo of course.
The test of a prophet found in Deuteronomy is enough to prove these men false teachers of the gospel. Their lies are easily tracked in this modern age, and they are dishonest in their daily dealings with finances. Money and God shouldn’t even be in the same sentence.
@@kittiemarie1235 I mean we all have a connection to God. There are Prophets with a big P, and prophets with a little p. I think God chooses the Prophets, however everyone that believes in Jesus can have the gift of prophecy and should be prophets in their realm.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism hmm, I don’t think everyone receives the gift of prophecy. I think some people do, but others have gifts of healings, while others gifts of teaching. I do think that if one claims to be a prophet they are servants of God and therefore they speak to what God says, which is a calling that not everyone can or should have. What verses make you believe everyone has the ability to be a prophet? Big P or little P.
@@kittiemarie1235 Let me clarify again. I think everyone has the ability to receive prophecy for themselves. I don't think God limits that. However, I do think that not everyone has every spiritual gift. The scripture that comes to mind is Numbers 11:29. Everyone who wanted was invited up the mountain to commune with God, however everyone was afraid of the responsibility that would ensue.
Nelson has likely changed the church more than any other leader than Brigham Young - I think that's a more correct statement. Brigham changed the order of things 180°.
Brigham made a ton of changes for sure. However, a lot of things we attribute to Brigham were Joseph. This though is too much for a lot of people to think about so they blame everything on Brigham.
The abominations of polygamy and secret combinations and priest craft this could be the great and abominable church that must be shook awake or would be drug to hell at Christ coming
@@uncorrelatedmormonism indeed but the change will be judgment for those who prostitute the name of Christ to support wars based on lies who pretend to uphold the law of the land and the one that will burn them covering up sra
I was NOT born a Mormon. I realize that women do NOT live up to THEIR Potential as Acts 2:17-19 tells. "17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: (handmaidens ARE WOMEN) 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:" Smoke are Mushroom Clouds I have warned about FOR DECADES. No LDS Leaders "REALLY' WARN of Nuclear War on our Doorstep now. 10/11/24 Except me, click and see FREE how to Survive. Comment #41
"Unlike prophets, churchmen are the product of institutions. In the safety and permanence of institutions they put their trust. They resolutely oppose the prophets whom they accuse of disturbing their repose and rocking the boat." - Nibley
This is interesting consider Nibley was firmly "in the boat".
They are now in the world and of the world..... Babylon owns them....
I feel like this topic is the reason that the Church has been on a temple building spree. When you come from a privileged background, and then you are employed in a cushy job for life with all your earthly needs fulfilled, you really only have to worry about eternity. So the solution is all their problems is to build temples. If the top leadership came from more profoundly humble places in life, they would remember that there are so many temporal needs that need to be fulfilled before a person can go on to worrying about their eternity. The usage of Church funds would likely dramatically change toward more humanitarian spending.
I firmly agree with this. If the temple is of God, then would God be more pleased with 1000's of temples or with all his children taken care of?
I think the answer is obvious. Are we more pleased with great works of art, or our own children being taken care of?
@@uncorrelatedmormonismI don’t believe God dwells in temples made by man on his footstool for they did care more for the adorning of their temples then the poor and sick
The church has destroyed (er.. restored) the gospel with idol worship (er.. temple worship).
Wow 👏
Very clear discernment Emily. Our backgrounds and life situations absolutely influence our priorities of focus in life, and it is clear with these false shepherds as to where their priorities lie.
@@elginmcbride Exactly. Acts 17:24
"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"
But he did say he will make his abode in those individuals who truly love and follow him (as man's tabernacle is not made with hands, but made by God and in the image of God):
"If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him"
John 14:23
The greatest mortal prophet to walk the Earth lived in the desert, didn't shave, wore animal skins, and ate bugs. Yet he was endowed by heaven to overthrow the corrupt church of his day. That church began in purity, according to the lesser law. Over time it decayed, added to and took away from the commandments, changed the ordinances, and became corrupted by aspiring men.
When the Israelites failed to ascend God's mountain in the desert, Moses and the high priesthood were taken from them. They were left with caretakers like Joshua, and then eventually kings like David. None of these leaders ever approached the same level of authority and power as Moses had, until John.
Joseph Smith tried and failed to bring about Zion. D&C 124 specifically states that the high priesthood was taken from the church and that a temple (Nauvoo) was needed so that the Lord could restore it. That temple was never completed and therefore the church does not have that priesthood to this day. Joseph was murdered. His successor Hyrum was also murdered. Therefore, the church was left without a prophet, seer, and revelator. This is plainly stated in scripture and is indisputable. The idea that apostles ascend to the first presidency or that spiritual gifts automatically pass to the next senior leader in line is completely unsupported in the scriptures.
Therefore, the church was again left in the care of lesser men. Brigham schemed his way to the top and, by many accounts, was like Saul. Powerful and rich, but without any spiritual gifts. A man cannot be a prophet when he specifically states (at the end of his life) that he'd never even seen an angel. That folly continued through his successors. What began in purity decayed steadily into the corporate church we see today. What remains is nothing like what Joseph established, drawing near to God with their lips but who display all the hallmarks of priestcraft.
Whited sepulchers, indeed.
This is very true. Upon reflection, it is such a silly concept to think that apostolic seniority should be used to select the next prophet of God.
God should be the one to select his next prophet, not the arbitrary time of who has been the apostle the longest.
It is also very true that prophets of God shouldn't automatically look like successful men of the world. In the scriptures the prophets were almost always the weird ones on the fringe.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism I do agree with you. Unfortunately, this argument gets hit with the response that "Well, God DOES select his next prophet by controlling the outcome of who dies when!"
@@OmahaAreaLoya Yes this is the classic response however it is unfalsifiable so we really can't logically discuss it at all. This is the same concept that God would delete a prophet when he was going to stray.
It's all a moot point because Christ is the final Prophet, Priest, and King.
He has no succor. If your bible has the word "church," it's a bad translation. It doesn't belong.
Believers are Kingdom citizens (that's not of the earth, nor made by hands).
There was no such thing as a great apostacy. His gospel is everlasting.
There's so many false doctrines to unlearn as a "recovering mormon."
@@DangerMountain I do agree with you. However the word "apostasy" could be described as a general falling away. Certainly there were times were generally people were God's people and generally they were not.
Unlike in 1832, when Jesus Christ referred to His nascent Church as ““…the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually“ (D&C 1), the LDS Church devolved into what the Holy Ghost now refers to as a “dead faith” (DE#53). Executive managers call themselves prophets, seers, and revelators, but don’t function in that capacity. Would to God they would perform this role.
I think it is interesting when people use that scripture to indicate the LDS church is permanently true and can do no wrong.
What is DE #53?
@uncorrelatedmormonism That's a good point. The church has evolved in a zillion different ways since that time. But somehow that scripture is meant to prove that this current version of the church is 100% correct. 🤷♀️
@@emilysnow6757 My stake president actually told me that. He basically said how can I disagree with the church when God himself said the church was perfect.
How do you have a discussion with a person who thinks like that?
@uncoryou dont. They want to dictate, not discuss.... this video is superm, Im a new fan @relatedmormonism
No man can Serve God and Mammon... especially the self-proclaimed anointed of Christ's Church on the Earth.
Money and Power were not the way of The Master.
This is true. It seems like a hard balance between being in the world and of the world.
This is perhaps one of the most telling signs of the organization being run by businessmen and doctors, and not of God- how integrated money is in every aspect of the church and how much is being amassed, when Jesus said to not build up treasures on earth. If one seeks to apply Jesus' true teachings from the Gospels, you see that the Mormon church contradicts almost every single one
A list of the highest paying tithing contributors in the stake is often used by general authorities when choosing a new stake presidency. This should come as no surprise to anyone.
I have heard that before. It wouldn't surprise me. There does seem to be a correlation between leadership callings and job.
This could be because of income or leadership abilities. However, having leadership abilities doesn't necessarily make a good spiritual leader. Often, I would think it makes a worse spiritual leader.
@@uncorrelatedmormonismthat makes sense. And, in the business world, efficiency is celebrated and rewarded. Spiritual leadership is incompatible with the concept of efficiency as every person is different and may require a different approach. The church may be more efficient these days, but is it more spiritual?
@@robocoxogreat reflections. It's true, the Spirit leaves when business efficiency and money become the things that run the "kingdom."
When Jesus said all along, "my Kingdom is not of this world."
Not only are leaders admired and praised by members of the church and the world for their successful careers and achievements, but if you notice, they haven't had any opposition in their lives either.
Have leaders become like the leaders of the church when Christ was upon the earth?
Only the highly educated and successful elites could become the leaders.
Remember, Christ did not come from among them in the church. Christ was considered an outsider. They considered Him an enemy.
Question....
Why does the Lord say, He is going to send another servant and prophet to take back His vineyard (church), throw down their tower (Salt Lake Temple) and scatter them.
Do the leaders today parallel the leaders of Christ time.
Were not the leaders and Jews scattered and their temple thrown down and destroyed not long after Christ death.
I believe history is repeating itself, just in a different way. Instead of the Jews, it's the Mormons, and instead of Christ, it's a servant.
This servant and prophet is the last one who will actually usher in the second coming of Christ.
This servant, like Christ, would be considered an outsider. Like Christ, his identity has been hidden until it's his time.
Christ was among the leaders and the people, and they knew him not. Not til it was His time.
I believe this last servant is now among the people, and they know it not. But sonn they will. For it will be this last servant time.
I have noticed this. I am not sure specifics about the last servant; however I doubt he is going to be among the top leadership and people think. Being in the top leadership warps people's minds. As you said they have no opposition and go from adoring fan base to adoring fan base.
I suspect the last servant is going to be a nobody that simply seems to have all the right answers. People will hate him, but they will fear his truth more. At that time people will have to decide do they trust in God more, or the organizations of men more. It will be a very hard challenge for a lot of people.
This last servant is not coming to bring peace as thought during Christ time when He was upon the earth. The Jews throught the Messiah was going to bring peace. Instead, He brought division and destruction.
I believe this servant is coming to bring division among the church and its members also.
He is bringing judgment and punishment that will begin in the Lord's house. And from there it will go upon this nation and then to all nations.
As for the gathering, the only one who can gather in the righteous and the tribes of Israel is the Lord Himself. For no man has that power or authority to do so. Either on this side or the other side. For Christ is the only one who knows one's true intent, and the pure in heart. He is also the only who knows who Israel is and where the they are located.
@uncorrelatedmormonism
@@keith5459 quite sound understanding of the role and station of that servant. You are correct of course, he will be called directly of God, having communed directly with Him, and will be prepared as a shaft in His quiver.
He will break all the molds that are of men and of culture in the Lord's House, which frankly, is almost all of them at this point. He will teach the pure and simple Doctrine of Jesus Christ and will always point to his Master, and not himself:
'behold my servant, in whom I rejoice; my chosen son, with whom I am pleased: he shall go forth from darkness into light, to be a light to the remnant of my people, and a scourge to the wicked of that generation.
The sons of the earth shall behold my arm, which I shall bear unto them; unto the ragged and marred apprarance they shall say, there is a wild one among us, there is a scourge in our midst- go ye out from among us, yea, purge us no more.
Yet shall my hand bring justice to the nations, and my covenant shall judge with equity the meek. In that day shall the pride of men fail them, and the Lord alone shall be exalted.
My son shall speak no word of his own glory, for he shall be raised to know he hath no glory, having lived among filthy men; nevertheless he shall say unto men: prepare ye the way of the LORD, for the day cometh that shall burn as an oven.
For my right hand shall do my work in that day, yea, shall my hand prepare unto me a fortified and strengthened City of Priests, that my rest among men may be glorious.'
Home run!! Excellent video!!
Thank you.
The truth will be given to another people..or the church will change. Hopefully both. It appears both are happening due to the honesty and love of many members. Its the lords and the members church...not the leaders. Peace.
It does seem that God operates through a partnership with man. God wants to make us "godly", however he seems to allow it to be done in a human way.
I think this is the beauty in how God operates. He creates distinct entities or forms and then brings them to his level. I would imagine his realm is filled with all sorts of different entities that are uniquely godly while also being uniquely themselves.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism agreed, by allowing human error and limits in knoweldge to be involved with our learning..he allows us free agency and shows us wisdom and love..intent...the heart etc..is above knoweldge. imo of course.
Man Clubs 😊❤God is With me..I can manage my own life 😊❤
True prophets and apostles are also often killed... been some time since that's happened.
The test of a prophet found in Deuteronomy is enough to prove these men false teachers of the gospel. Their lies are easily tracked in this modern age, and they are dishonest in their daily dealings with finances. Money and God shouldn’t even be in the same sentence.
If they are prophets, then they are prophets in the same sense as everyone else.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism in what sense do you mean everyone else?
@@kittiemarie1235 I mean we all have a connection to God. There are Prophets with a big P, and prophets with a little p. I think God chooses the Prophets, however everyone that believes in Jesus can have the gift of prophecy and should be prophets in their realm.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism hmm, I don’t think everyone receives the gift of prophecy. I think some people do, but others have gifts of healings, while others gifts of teaching. I do think that if one claims to be a prophet they are servants of God and therefore they speak to what God says, which is a calling that not everyone can or should have. What verses make you believe everyone has the ability to be a prophet? Big P or little P.
@@kittiemarie1235 Let me clarify again. I think everyone has the ability to receive prophecy for themselves. I don't think God limits that. However, I do think that not everyone has every spiritual gift.
The scripture that comes to mind is Numbers 11:29. Everyone who wanted was invited up the mountain to commune with God, however everyone was afraid of the responsibility that would ensue.
Good observations
Nelson has likely changed the church more than any other leader than Brigham Young - I think that's a more correct statement. Brigham changed the order of things 180°.
Brigham made a ton of changes for sure. However, a lot of things we attribute to Brigham were Joseph. This though is too much for a lot of people to think about so they blame everything on Brigham.
The abominations of polygamy and secret combinations and priest craft this could be the great and abominable church that must be shook awake or would be drug to hell at Christ coming
All things not based on true principles will need to be corrected. This does also include the LDS church.
@@uncorrelatedmormonism indeed but the change will be judgment for those who prostitute the name of Christ to support wars based on lies who pretend to uphold the law of the land and the one that will burn them covering up sra
Demons.
I was NOT born a Mormon. I realize that women do NOT live up to THEIR Potential as Acts 2:17-19 tells. "17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: (handmaidens ARE WOMEN)
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:" Smoke are Mushroom Clouds I have warned about FOR DECADES.
No LDS Leaders "REALLY' WARN of Nuclear War on our Doorstep now. 10/11/24 Except me, click and see FREE how to Survive. Comment #41