ASBESTOS BANNED
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2024
- The Environmental Protection Agency has banned the only form of asbestos still in use: chrysotile asbestos (aka white asbestos). It's part of a family of toxic minerals linked to lung cancer and other illnesses that cause about 40,000 U.S. deaths each year, the agency says.
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I didn't realize we hadn't after we discovered how bad it is.
Lobbying my friend. They have money.
I mean, sounds like we tried to three decades ago, at least. Also, OSHA began to regulate asbestos in the workplace in 1971. I doubt everyone was twiddling their thumbs in the meantime...
It’s similar with lead, while other countries were banning it, the US was expanding its use in paint and gasoline.
Because not all uses are dangerous. I remember my highschool had asbestos tables in the science lab. Completely harmless because there are no loose fibers that could be breathed in but wouldn't be burned or damaged by chemical spills. Though we were warned to never sit on the tables. Apparently someone sat on them at some point and his sweat was enough to reactivate some acid that burned a hole in his jeans.
It isnt dangerous on its own. Its dangerous when it crumbles and goes airborne
It's the same with lead paints in the 1960s and 70s. They banned the use of lead paint, then paint companies complained that they needed to sell what they had left in stock, so the EPA allowed it to be sold for an extended period. Then, manufacturing companies bought loads of lead paint ( because it was one of the most effective paint primers ever made ) and petitioned to extend how long lead paints could be used since they had so much in stock, which the EPA allowed. Most metal structures today, like bridges, oil / gas pipelines, and oil/water towers that were painted at that time, still have lead primer on them. Once the primer is exposed to the elements, it then leeches into the ground water around them. The more you know.
Edit: @PugGrumbler thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice auto correct change it to the wrong banned.
Isn’t the primer under the paint, so basically as soon as the top layer of paint fades you have an ecological crisis dotted across US infrastructure???
@@tfpnation6925yep although I would be more worried about lead than asbestos
indeed its all poor goverment decions and studys showed low income childeren are affected more by lead then middle to higher class ones. wich in part makes their brain volume smaller.
@tfpnation6925 It's already an issue in refineries and power plants across the US. If a metal structures paint is peeling and you can see red but it's not rust, then what you are seeing is lead paint.
Edit: Also, yes, the primer is under the paint. I forgot to answer this question when I wrote the reply above.
@@samuelfisher3733 is this part of the reason why the navy is constantly painting its ships ? Because they use lead primer ?
Sorry this might be an extreme extrapolation, however I have a nuke plant friend who’s in and he’s talked multiple times about just how much paint the decks go through
I wasn't aware we were still even USING Asbestos.
It's natures wonder material and has all sorts of applications nothing else really cuts the mustard for.
Asbestos is great for all kinds of stuff. It's hazardous, though, so should only be used in controlled settings... Like a chlorine factory.
@@SpencerLemay yeah, like how Lead is still used in gasoline to prevent engine knock cause we couldn't find any other substitute? Oh wait yes we did it's called Ethanol.
@@Professional_FunHaverEntirely different comparison, each is different. There is no readily available and safe substitute like Ethanol for Lead.
@@user-nq2oz8tf2l actually, there is. It's called Refrasil, I used it when I was a shipyard fitter/welder.
Asbestos inspector here! Asbestos is also still used in a number of adhesives and mastics, mostly what's underneath ceramic and vinyl tiles, though it's also sometimes mixed into drywall and ceramic tiles. It also is still used as thermal system insulation (coating or coverings on pipes to keep them at a certain temperature). Though these uses for asbestos aren't dangerous for normal people they can still be extremely dangerous for contractors and construction workers.
Also it's a mineral. And there's three types of Asbestos still in use, not one as the EPA cited.
I work for a power company here in NZ.
Some old power meters are on asbestos switch boards which causes a huge pain whenever it comes up.
Isn't there a danger only when asbestos is in it's fibrous form though? I would expect that once used in a process to create something, like in chemistry, it would no longer be dangerous, and I would HOPE that anyone working with it would be using proper PPE.
No. Asbestos is banned in all construction materials. Don't pretend like you know what you are talking about. The only real concern right now is the Asbestos in makeup, which is unregulated. Asbestos is used to MAKE chlorine, so there is no reason it should be banned in thar industry.
@@tylociraptor8131 cant speak for in chemistry but when its fibrous form the issue comes with drilling and other situations.
Now ideally everyone interacting with it would be properly trained and use the correct PPE however sometimes you just dont know that asbestos is involved with a job, so you run a risk of drilling through a wall and into asbestos without being aware.
I work in a USPS distribution center and the floor tiles use an asbestos adhesive. They have to be replaced fairly frequent since the forklifts pivoting tend to displace or simply tear them.
There's also still lead paint in the doorframes
The wild part is That asbestos isn’t any type of chemical per se, it’s literally just a type of fibrous rock. The fibers are so small that they can pierce individual cells and cause complications such as cell death (lung scarring) or cancer (increased chance of corrupted cells dividing).
Isn't it a type of serpentine?
@@clarehidalgo yep
And because it is naturally occurring and pretty common, there will still be very low level exposure even after all the absestos we have used has been disposed of.
I really believe plastics will be the next big health crisis, being so inert, the microplastics could conceivably get lodged in places where the body can't easily get rid of it, and it causes irritation.
"Isn't any type of chemical" said the person who doesn't know the definition of chemical
@@Professional_FunHaverasbestos is not a chemical, it's a group of naturally occurring mineral fibers
I chemically scarred my lungs due to exposure to chloramine gas, and the chlorine used in the pool used asbestos. I have to have regular chest xrays every 10 years now.
Isn't that the gas that you get from mixing bleach and ammonia. I don't think it has anything to do with the asbestos.
@@olstar18Abestus contains high amounts of ammonia. It's literally used to create ammonia sulfide.
Asbestos is not a chemical, but a mineral and it's used in chlorine production to separate the cathode and anode during the chemical reaction.
"Chloramines are formed by reaction of chlorine used to disinfect swimming pools with ammonia and urea introduced into the pools by human perspiration, saliva, mucus, urine, and other biologic substances, and by insects and other pests. Chloramines, especially trichloramine, are responsible for most of the "chlorine smell" of pools, as well as for skin, eye, and respiratory irritation." (from wikipedia)
Nothing to do with the non-reactive asbestos used in the production of the chlorine you used. Asbestos doesn't contain any ammonia as the other guy said. It is the small asbestos fibers themselves that cause asbestosis (asbestos scarring of lungs(not chemical) and mesothelioma (a type of cancer).
I hate to nitpick, but… Can something you do once a decade really be considered “regular”?
@@dammitdan1662Regular just means that a thing happens in the same amount of intervals, such as a chest x-ray that is always done every 10 years, is done regularly, as in, there is no change in when it's done.
Really took this long
The US is living 50 years in the past. They're so far behind in every possible way.
@@abebuckingham8198The military;
Right-wing judges care more about profits than lives.
aaaa 300th :D
I don't really get the point. Asbestos is only dangerous when breathed in and can be used safely. Ban it from places people live, but does it matter if it's used in an industrial chemical plant to make a toxic chemical that is prized for it's anti-life qualities?
Whenever people argue for less government regulations this and lead are my go to. If companies could get away with it we would still have rivers catching fire from polution and trash burning in the streets.
Look at Boeing honestly. Somebody saved money and bad shit happened. Who knew that a free market would not in fact solve itself
@juliusdauksys2183 you'd think anyone with a brain but apparently that standard is too high.
the free market solves all. think about it Capitalistic Feudalism how cool wouldnt it be being an serf for amazon.
@davidschrauwen1536 or we get Boeing and people marketing opioids as if they aren't addictive
People say that it should be voiced directly from the people.. Like, do you think 1 random guy is able to stick up to a company like the gov can? No lmao
I can't believe the GOP has taken the brave and insane position of "pro-asbestos". Although to be fair, after "pro-lead in drinking water" nothing shocks me.
Lead poisioning is just a "myth" you know?
Well nobody gonna vote for us without a little Brian damage
Lol... What? You have a very vivid imagination.
@@sumduma55no a member of the gop literally made a statement about lead poisoning being an ‘assumed’ risk of lead in the water or something.
@@patrickstump4681you do realize that not every Republican just votes for any GOP member right? There's idiots in this party like there's idiots in the Democrat party.
We don't just vote for people because they're GOP
@@stratejic1020Sort out your party, democrats don't have a MAGA wing.
Reminder that Project 2025 explicitly says it wants to get rid of the EPA. Please read that document and vote to protect this organization.
Whoa, now that sounds like a shift to authoritative rule in the US...
Man, if only we voted to keep an agency that is so slow in doing its job, that every company already got rid of asbestos except the 8 they said still do in this video. Yes, get rid of the USELESS EPA. Agenda 2025, Trump 2024
No @@mfmageiwatch No
@@mfmageiwatchbro just. Really?
@@mfmageiwatchor actually fund them. The right’s been sabotaging that agency for decades.
I love how corporation's rebuttal to the gov't trying remove, limit, or ban things bad for our health is, "bUt iTs hArD to dO sOmEthIng eLse!".
The alternative being prohibitively costly is actually a very logical reason to oppose something.
@@SpencerLemay Right. But alternatives become cheaper over time with advancements in tech and manufacturing. And we knew about this issue for decades.
Neither cost nor production difficulties are a hindrance for these companies when it comes to EU sales. They already produce non asbestos chlorine for the global market.
Same with food manufacturers that produce toxic waste free products to the global market The same factory they produce toxic sludge for the US market.
@@SpencerLemayIn this case, use FUCKING FIBERGLASS
@SailorYuki
This is what I point to when some folks say something cannot be done in America. If the Europeans can do it, why can't we? We only have one government to convince and work with, it should be easier than convincing how many European governments to agree on something?
Well it's about damn time! Now we need a push from government to go around and remove as much as possible. Admittedly I'm not big on expanding government. I just don't see how a non government organization would be capable of mustering the funding, the authority, materials to replace what they remove, etc.
I'm usually for increased government spending on civilian jobs programs, but asbestos is best left undisturbed at this point. If you want to remove it from a building, it's best to just take out the whole building. The removal process would release asbestos particles into the air. When it's in the solidified spray-on form of fireproofing you see in buildings, it's safe because it can't get in to the lungs. When knocked off for removal, it becomes dangerous
@@redjoker365 oh believe me I know, there's been a number of remodels people have wanted me to do. Of course they didn't want to pay for hazmat gear or sprayers to keep the dust down during removal and clean up. Nevermind the extra hazard pay I required on top of that for the obvious risk
@@StrangeTerror asbestos sickness is just a myth. Spread by democrats who hate the mining industry. No studies actually proved any health effects linked to asbestos.
You know asbestos is a mineral that is dug up from the ground. So if you dig in the dirt, you may be exposing yourself to asbestos. It is a naturally occurring mineral.
I do believe we have over reacted to asbestos. It should be in common use that it was in the 1950s but it does have many really useful properties.
No one is dying from asbestos due to companies making chlorine. People die from remodeling old houses that have asbestos and this ban will do nothing to prevent this.
Plus, it's just the EPA. Vey important, but very powerless.
Government shouldn't put corporate profits over the health of its citizens.
I generally agree...
@@Sure_You_BetchaSadly it’s like telling me, a fat kid to not eat cake…
Asbestos is a natural accruing if you go roll around in dirt you will be exposed to it
There is a monetary worth to life, and they weigh them. There was a document that got leaked after a massive airplane scandal. Not the recent Boeing one, I think it was new autopilot software that forced planes into nosedives, and they didn't train pilots or inform them about the new software because it would be expensive
The list weighed how much money it would cost to train them, versus how much money the ensuing wrongful death lawsuits would cost. It was cheaper to let people die, so they didn't do the training, went forward with the new software, and multiple planes went down. I believe all of them killed everyone on board because of the severity of the malfunction
They were right, it was cheaper. It took a while to find out what even happened because they had skirted the regulations where they had to notify about these big changes, and after the crashes the planes were completely destroyed. The only reason for them to not do the training was money, that is the only thing. These companies do not care about you or your safety, because they will literally put a price they're willing to pay to let you die
It really feels like a dystopian nightmare
Thr government shouldnt put sticking it to private industry over the ability of their citizens to eat. Too much regulation hurst everybody and poorly thought out regulation is just as bad if not worse
And here’s yet another example of why we need to keep a president that doesn’t want to disempower, defund, and/or dismantle the EPA. The EPA protects not only the environment (which is apparently too abstract for some people to care about even though we all should) they also protect human life and health!
Good thing they allow chemicals to be transported via rail and purposely combusted to create chemical clouds! The current presidency/executive office does not care about the EPA.
If they actually did that, I'd be all for it. Often times though they often just force companies to skirt protections in other ways. One example of this is why car companies no longer manufacture small utility trucks. The EPA rules have made it not cost-effective to build a small truck in order to encourage better environmental fuel economy. Instead, what they actually encouraged is companies to ignore the intent by simply building a bigger truck because bigger trucks are allowed bigger carbon footprints.
You people really love to assume a bunch of shit so I'll just add some stuff to this statement.
1. My point isn't that the EPA shouldn't exist, but that it isn't a benevolent organization that we should put all our effort it.
2. I do not think "defund" campaigns are effective, and neither have I ever advocated.
3. I am way more neutral on this subject than all the haters attacking me for stating some pretty obvious devil advocate shit.
4. I highly recommend everyone to stop trying to view things as good or bad, and look at everything thing with nuance. There is a benefit and con to evry organization. Think on both sides of the coin.
@@evmarekaj this is a gross simplification of a complicated policy topic. Regardless, the EPA does an INSANE amount to protect our environment and health. It's asinine to act as if it's not a net good because it can't wave a magic wand and delete big trucks from existence without action from either Congress or state legislatures. The EPA does a lot but its job is administration. Not legislation. Go talk to your legislators about it instead of shaming the ones doing their best to save the world with their hands (budgets) tied behind their backs.
@spencerlively3049 the epa leaves places worse than they were.
We need to dismantle the EPA. Asbestos was already banned from use in all public and non commercial buildings. That doesn't make it a useless mineral for industry. Risk is lower than the benefits.
Is it me or do judges block a lot of things that are good?
*Conservative judges
A lot of them do and sometimes it's blatantly political unfortunately, or because they're bought like politicians.
Sometimes though our legal system just sucks and isn't set up to allow us to do good things. So in those cases judges are ruling correctly, and to get things changed we have to dig deeper and change whatever prevented it.
A vast majority of the time this occurs is when the executive branch gets told by congress they won't pass 'X' initiative. So then the executive goes to make a new federal regulation to bypass congress. Then a hard-line judge gets all uppity and altruistic when it gets national attention and blocks it, or, they really are just following what the bounds of the law states.
We live in an era where congress passes so few laws in comparison to how fast the world is changing due to technology that this scenario is commonplace.
@@PappyP*Judges. Both sides do it.
Yes, yes, yes
Corporate America when u tell em they can't poison people anymore:😮
It's not even that. This is corporate America when you tell them to stop using one of the many poisons at their fingertips.
America: Profits > lives.
Fun fact, there is such thing as blue asbestos, and there is an entire deserted town that is covered in blue asbestos. Also, a lot of people died.
Wait what?! How did they get covered in asbestos? XD
@@pedromoura1446Asbestos is a naturally occurring mineral that just sits around in nature. When you dig it up it makes dust which is when it becomes dangerous. Asbestos is perfectly safe when left undisturbed.
@@pedromoura1446It's a rock and when you dig it up it makes dust.
@@SpencerLemay huh... I had to check (nothing personal but this IS the internet) and you're quite right... I always thought asbestos was fabricated like glass fibre is...
Being extremely killable by such a common naturally occurring material seems like a major biologic oversight XD
@@pedromoura1446 Look up Wittenoom, Western Australia.
I hate living in the Profit Experiment.
Never ceases to amaze how third-world the US is.
Similar things happen in other first world countries. It's called lobbying and corruption.
So third world that your on an American website using a phone with an American operating system. Try going one day without using the internet with an American website and see how far you go
I am guessing your time in actual third-world countries is somewhere between very little and zero.
@@Blaze6432 Those are mainly Californian innovations. Don't pretend like the rest of the country is that advanced.
Living in Europe gives me a much greater degree of assurity in my health and safety.
Judges shouldn't have that much power.
They kinda should...
That's the entire point of judges is to prevent law makers from passing laws that contradict other laws.
I agree there are judges that make some incredibly stupid, sometimes bias decisions but they absolutely should have that much power. Imagine congress, the president, or an agency just being able to ignore judges. That would get very authoritarian very quickly.
@@maxhunter4053like redefining a short barreled rifle?
@@jamesrogers1105 Idk if you are even referring to judges or legislators, let alone the law/ruling you are referring to. Stop making a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with guns a gun debate.
There's really no reason why asbestos shouldn't be used in a controlled industrial manner, with proper safeguards to ensure it doesnt escape whatever vessel/part it's being used in.
There are far, far more environmentally damaging and toxic substances that haven't received any attention because everyone is still freaking out over asbestos.
yeah, just putting a blanked ban on it is kinda...
Like, even the most dangerous and enviromentally damaging substances are only actually "dangerous" or "enviromentally damaging" if they aren't handled properly.
An extreme example would be radioactive material used in nuclear reactors... OBVIOUSLY very harmful to basically anything if not properly handled, much more so than Asbestos.
Consequently there are countless checks, legal barriers and required licenses needed to work with the stuff, thats good.
But its NOT compleately banned, and for good reason, because in some applications it can be very useful like creating ginourmous amounts of cheap and relatively "enviromentally clean" energy in nuclear reactors.
Who the hell cares if some chemical factories use Asbestos during clorine production as long as that Asbestos stays in the Chemical plant where it belongs and the people working with it have proper savety measures and protective equipment in place.
People aren't freaking out over it, it's just that the people who are worrying about it for the rest of us are always worrying about it whenever we check in on them (they're doing their job!).
But Asbestos scary!
Bad White rock is bad and if you don't like banning it forever you are BAD!
It should be mandatory these corporation's and lawmakers have to heavily use the products they allow on the market
Wtf are you going to do with all that chlorine? It's entire purpose is to kill things in water. Did you even watch the video?
This video is talking about asbestos being used in a literal poison factory. What are you even saying?
@SpencerLemay its not at all. Its saying its used in car parts, so every time you or a mechanic handles that part there is a good chance they are being exposed to asbestos. It's also used in conjuction with chlorine, so that chlorine supply is contaminated with asbestos, which is then put into our water supply. Everyone in those chemical plants, chlorine distributors, water facilities and whoever drinks that water is being exposed to asbestos. That 40 thousand dead a year isnt dying from nothing
@@SpencerLemayI can help with your reading & comprehension issues!❤
They mean if any authority votes to continue the use of dangerous chemicals or products, they should be forced to use the products those products are used on when possible so they have firsthand experiance with the danger & dont see it as some vague threat as it is easy to do without immediate exposure.
Like hearing about injuries in a courtroom vs seeing them. Theres just a human bias about it.
They do use the product: the public water supply, sanitized by chlorine. This is basically a non-issue.
I live in military housing, recently moved from one home to another. They told me they were very concerned about asbestos being in my old home as it was built in the 40s, lead paint and everything. They came and did their tests and told us nothing. We tried to call the number given and were repeatedly hung up on before they BLOCKED mine and my husband's number. My son spent 2 years and my daughter spent the first 6 months of her life breathing that in. We are certain of it. And now i have no idea who to call or what to do 😅😅
Maybe try contacting the consumer protection bureau
You can file an IG (inspector general) complaint, I'm not sure who the contact would be for your particular situation, but either your chain of command or whoever your sponsor/spouses chain of command should know.
Also might be something to bring up with the chain of command before filing an IG complaint. If might not go anywhere, but at least you can say you informed them of the issue.
That said, provided the asbestos and paint were "undisturbed" (a big IF, especially with kids in the house), you SHOULD be okay. I would still not want to live in those conditions, especially with children. I would 100% take a housing allowance over dealing with on base housing, even if it means buying a trailer home. At least I'd own it and know when it was built and what was in it.
Try to find a lawyer and sue the shit out of them
The health risks of asbestos are no joke but the stuff is basically magic when it comes to fire suppression, it just flat out doesn't burn.
“Nooo let us keep using asbestos to make chlorine for your drinking water”
No get it the f out of there what are you doing
Never did I think that a "chlorine industry," first off, existed; second, was one of the main antagonists of human health.
Actually they're one of the protagonists, clean drinking water is so insanely vital to health its not even funny.
@@Benzonaboil the water…
@@user-si2tz5vb9o not 100% effective and for it to be healthy sitting in a resevour to go to your tap it needs chlorine so you dont get cholera and other water born disease.
I mean- unless you wanna live in a 3rd world nation where water kills 30% of people
@@BenzonaNot when it comes to asbestos apparently.
@@user-si2tz5vb9o Do you seriously think that mass boiling of water is remotely practical for municipal water supplies?
Here in Australia too, every park is closed, Mardi Gras almost didn’t happen cus of asbestos in the mulch
Omg it’s been almost 100 years since we KNEW that it killed the people on the wizard of oz set. HOW did it take so long??
Because we are talking about banning it from use in industrial chemical factories using it to make literal poison. This video is designed to play with people's emotions rather than logic and the comments prove it.
@@SpencerLemayeh? Chlorine being used in drinking water is very standard, don't see how that's poison. The chlorine is moderated afterwards, so it's fine
@@SpencerLemay hang on, are you saying that it's unreasonable for these people to get emotional about their government allowing the use of a material that has been proven for a very long time to cause health problems? For things that, though industrial, are things that they can easily be exposed to? Drinking water, pools, the dust from brake pads - most people are going to be exposed to those things often. I disagree with your idea that this is meant to illicit emotion. It's a short form video so yeah, they may have summed it up a bit, but they laid out the facts along with logical questions from common people about why it hadn't been done before. I think the emotion is natural, and not the main reason this video was made. Have you seen some of the videos on the internet?? 😬
@@jessicawall5801 yes when you are being manipulated to believe shit that isn't happening. The industrial usage of asbestos is very minimal and when it is utilized there are multiple safeguards adopted when working with it. The last of which being PPE. This video is acting like there is asbestos being sprayed all over your farms or some shit. When in actuality that isn't the case.
@@jessicawall5801 Mildly confused here- you’re saying that both pools and drinking water contain asbestos?
I bet it was a conservative judge
Don’t even gotta say it, man. Most people already know.
no
@@MichaelMcDoesntExist I want conservatives and Trump-supporters to acknowledge it
"pro business"
Definition of conservative. Conserve the old traditions, no matter how outdated or destructive.
I’m curious to see how the car parts manufacturers figure this one out. A lot of brake pads and clutches use asbestos.
i'm sorry, what? 😳
the brake pads? as in, the stuff that breaks down into dust that then goes into the air? THOSE brake pads?
you mean to tell me that ASBESTOS is part of the crap that we're breathing in almost all the time?!
The same way they figured it out in Europe and the rest of the world decades ago.
Hope the alternatives are effective and safe enough to be a reasonable switch, chemical production is a wild beast.
Whines in corporate: But changing our product will cost money! Something that we have an abundance of!
I’m a roofer in the UK and the amount asbestos used for roof work on houses is incredible. All these mass produced houses from the 50s and 60s are riddled with it. I was off sick for a month after a reroof job we had because my lungs were so tight after stripping the asbestos. Shortness of breath and pain when breathing rlly knocked me on my arse
Until 1999
The funny part is that Western Australia, one of the areas where asbestos was mined already was ahead of the curve. Hell, WA also has major research on the negative effects on Asbestos, waaaay ahead of the curve
The manufacturers of it must have not made their payments on time to the big guy.
The last I heard of Asbestos, I was playing Portal 2.
It's also so dangerous that existing installed versions of it (e.g. floor tiling) aren't mandated to be removed because of the lower risk of just leaving it alone with proper precautions.
blue asbestos literally wiped out a small mining town in australia and ppl are still debating about its use 💀
Blue asbestos literally caused Australia to have its own Pripyat. There’s a little town in WA that doesn’t appear on any maps and was abandoned because the asbestos mines nearby had huge piles of the stuff sitting nearby and it kept blowing into town
I fully thought this had been done years ago.
Asbestos is also in makeup. It’s in the mica that makes the makeup glittery.
To be clear though, that’s a contamination when it happens. It happens when a cosmetic company buys cheap mica since they are often found/mined in the same locations. It’s not _supposed_ to be in it.
It's also a contaminant in baby powder. J&J got into a huge class action over it not too long ago.
Incorrect, cosmetic grade mica isn't meant to have asbestos contamination in it. There is also a distinct difference between the two, with mica being both lab made and naturally occurring as a mineral sheet while asbestos is a silica sheet.
I live in the UK and am shuddering at the thought of ASBESTOS being related to DRINKING WATER in any way, shape or form. It's like they're asking for ”Flint, Michigan 2: Asbestos Boogaloo."
The only use I have for it now in the UK is getting period accurate brake shoes for my car. Can't really say I'm too upset honestly, it's a material the should be left in the past
Companies should not be given room to have a grace period if anything they should be fined into the ground for ever resisting when it comes to public health matters like this it's insane
That's an awful idea. Everyone should have a right to speak and being punished for arguing for yourself is a pretty anti-democratic idea.
Secondly, how is this even a public health matter? Asbestos was already banned from being used outside specific industrial uses, and in those industries people can just wear PPE.
I feel like a cat watching the pom poms flicking around
I’ll take “today I found out I have adhd or I am a cat reincarnated” for 500 belly rubs, Alex.
This loop is 🔥 The WaPo short-form content is top tier. Excellent work!
Better late than never I suppose
Unless you died from it.😂😂😂 then it was just never.
The feds were late to the party. Pretty much every state has effectively banned it since the 1970s. Mining was banned decades ago. You'll be hard pressed to find any place using asbestos unless it was built before the 1978 or so.
Wow finally!
"Five more years".... Yep.... profits before safety, as per f'ing usual with this country of corporate greed....
Did you pay attention to the reason why?
“Now we can say…” is the most telling part of this. It’s not about helping anyone. It’s about being able to say you did something no matter how genuinely meaningless.
The queen of looooping
It's not a chemical. It's a mineral. It can be completely filtered out of finished products, and other things can replace it easily enough. It's just that it's cheap and easy to mine, so this is a 'waah my record profits' problem.
Asbestos is a chemical
It is Mg3Si2O5(OH)4
"We're taking the poison out of our cereal"
"Why can’t we have cereal the AMERICAN way anymore! They hate our FREEDOM and LIBERTY!"
Reminder not to trust companies and that some (preferably smaller) government intervention is needed. Otherwise we get shit like this
God America is truly a capitalist nightmare
murica
I worked as an environmental inspector. Asbestos can only be disposed of at certain landfills in specific cells. I asked the landfill managers if they had seen a dip overtime in acceptance of asbestos (as you'd think all that was coming in was from old businesses so we'd eventually dispose of all of it). They were the ones who told me it's still used in car parts, so if anything, asbestos disposal has just increased over time.
That loop was absolutely seamless
Funny thing is that asbestos isn’t even that dangerous so long as you aren’t stupid about handling it
Asbestos is not a chemical it’s a mineral.
Right, because materials don't ever produce chemicals. Nope, never happened...
I believe it’s both. Mineral is more of a geology term.
@@nhut8787 Minerals *are* chemicals. Everything, by definition of being made of atoms, is chemicals. "Chemical" is synonymous with "element," just being much broader and including compounds. Everything is chemicals, but not everything is elements
@@SnoFitzroywell, everything except a perfect vacuum, radiation and several subatomic subatomic particles you propably won't hear about outside of university level physics.
But the point still stands, minerals are under the umbrella term of chemicals.
Although you're not wrong cause it is indeed a mineral...A mineral is a naturally occurring chemical compound... And Chrysotile or white asbestos is Mg3(Si2O5)(OH). 🎉
The amount of schools and office buildings that still have asbestos is insane
Renovating _old_ old buildings is a treat, we have to evacuate the site every time asbestos is found so a specialized team can come in with pressure chambers and suits to clean it out
in the 1990s when i was serving in the US Navy it was illegal to install asbestos in US Navy ships in the US .
SO , when we had to switch out old asbestos with new asbestos that covers hot pipes, we did that in Spain .
EPA: "We want to protect Americans!"
Federal Judge: "Screw that, we need to protect my money!"
"If you or a loved one has ben diagnosed with mesothelioma you may be entitled to financial compensation."
This is all I ever think when I hear asbestos.
My dads a safety officer for a hospital and for the longest time he has been doing asbestos checks. That man’s cough is crazy, so loud and raspy and painful sounding. He even had to get a cancerous tumor removed from his tongue/mouth years back
My dad talks about how, in high school, they passed a block of asbestos around their science class.
Someone ought to check that judge's bank statements 33 years ago lol
There are toooons of asbestos tiles in schools and military buildings. In a lot of cases, they've been around so long that people forget they are made of asbestos and when the tiles crack from wear, nobody knows how dangerous they are.
after all those medical warnings i saw on tv as a kid, i thought it was already banned
U.S. Government: "We've banned the bad thing."
Big Business: "But that's going to inconvenience us and you won't like it when we're inconvenienced."
U.S. Government: "You're the boss!"
Remember kids, asbestos can be picked up off of the ground in some places. It is still mined to this day in Canada.
I wish this short mentioned how commonly you come across it in buildings, ESPECIALLY public schools. In addition, these asbestos tiles often stay broken for months before anyone comes to replace them.
If a tile simply lays somewhere broken it isn’t hazardous. If it keeps breaking off it is a bit- given it’s indoors. Asbestos isn’t dangerous if it’s one time exposure, or if the asbestos stays intact, only when the particles become airborne it’s considered a safety hazard.
@@tobiasthengs They're floor tiles, usually. Often in high-traffic areas. And breaking it sends dust around, it's not just been sitting there broken magically. You can go work around children and broken asbestos tiles and see if you still feel like it's totally fine.
I love how most of these videos end/loop on "We can say..." Really shows how some politicians will only fulfill their promises on a technicality.
My little ADHD brain cannot focus with all of that pencil waving going around in the back.
just goes to show how corporations are the ones that really are in charge in America
Denmark banned asbestos in 86. How are Americans only getting to this NOW?!
As an apes student we’ve learned a good bit about this and though it may seem silly for some it’s good progress towards a greener healthier world
Does that mean I can get the government to pay for the removal of the asbestos tiles on my house? Lol
They used to use it in wall plasterboard in older houses, specifically in larger cities. Many of those houses had to be renovated or just demolished.
Bro the barracks at every army installation
I don’t think people realize just how much power these federal judges hold. All it takes is one greedy judge, and a company with a big enough wallet to cause a situation like this. Around 40,000 people a year dead, for 33 years, equals 1.3 million lives lost, all from a single decision, from a single Judge.
Can't wait for the supreme court to overrule this 🙄
The problem with U.S.A is that money rules - and perhaps the excess of liberty and lack of proper regulation on certain things (like weapons and environment - but it could be argued that is also because of money rules). That’s it. They probably would have a pretty much more advanced society if they managed to control that.
The fact we still put chlorine is water is nuts in general
That burnt popcorn and mesothelioma smell when you're bad with the clutch.
If our government is so lenient over something like asbestos, just imagine what they're allowing in the FDA.
It’s always corporations complaining about expenses - while they are poisoning the land air sea and people.
Nice one USA the greed of companies will forever topple the health of consumers
Asbestos is actually an interesting one. It's dangerous in the manufacturing process, and the procedures for avoiding issues from it are actually pretty simple, now that we know there are issues. It is also the best way to prevent buildings from burning down. If you used asbestos siding on your house, you're pretty much exempt from wild fire damage. Smoking kills 480,000 people a year, making it 10 times more dangerous than asbestos. However, you can still get it at every gas station.
Over here in the uk saying the word asbestos on a construction site is like saying the word bomb in an airport. It’s a one way ticket to get it closed down indefinitely.
Aspestos mittens for changing hot machine gun barrels. Don’t know if that’s actually what they were made of or not but we used them a ton. RIP our lungs
As someone who has used asbestos gloves and then been forced to switch to nonasbestos gloves and then burned my hands. Unintended consequences are unpleasant.
Now that polymer-based membranes have been developed, it is possible to produce industrial amounts of chlorine without asbestos.
Man clutches are going to be even more expensive now
the mesothelioma ads finally worked
There are a lot of complex chemicals with tough jobs that are poisonous to humans.
It can be hard to say which should or shouldnt be banned and when, especially when their use can range from perfectly responsible to criminally negligent.
Banning it would only be good if it actually poses reasonable danger in its current applications. I hope that was taken into account and not just that it’s a ‘scary bad thing’