I’m Canadian and I’m frustrated also. It seems both our customs people feel they need to flex their muscles. Too bad common sense and common decency is no longer common. Last year I tried to drive to Arizona and US customs wouldn’t let me drive in. However I could ship my car to the US then I could fly in. Only government people could come up with a plan like that. I grew up 25 miles from the US border and we always used to be treated well by both sides. Unfortunately those days seem to be gone.
This is all for domestic population control by the US. Congress wants a National ID but dare not vote for it because of massive opposition to any National ID. Thus Congress changed the law after 9/11 requiring for the first time ever for Americans going to Canada to have a passport. Congress also passed the "Real ID Act" to force states to upgrade their driving licenses (Congress did the same in the 1980s forcing Pennslyvania and Vermont to issue photo driving licenses, those two states, to continue to get federal funds for highway construction aftr the mid 1980s, had to switch from paper licenses to photo licenses. Photo licenses are a pain, in the old days all you had to do was renew your license once a year and the state would mail you a new paper license. No need to go to the local DMV to get a photo taken for the license. This push became worse after 9/11 and Canadians were just additional people harmed by this push. The main attack was on US Citizens.
@@paulmentzer7658 Yes, as America becomes an authoritarian hybrid democracy, there is more and more emphasis on keeping Americans in the country. Especially professionals, like doctors. During the Trump years, a steel cable and posts were built along the Northwest border. That is the same start of the Berlin Wall. People think that Trump wanted to build a wall to keep Mexicans out. I was erected to keep American in eventually. If Trump's coup had worked, I have no doubt that they would be going full speed ahead with walls on both borders. That's what authoritarian governments do. What do people do when their government becomes intolerable? They leave. To those Trump lovers of the 2nd amendment, do you really think that an authoritarian government is going to let you keep your guns?
@@colmcillegardner2144 Give all the land back to the natives and have the white folk and descendants of other immigrants pay ground rent to the natives.
In the 80's in college, we could drive into Canada with our driver's licenses. There was a checkpoint. It took slightly longer than a manned tollbooth when those existed. And Canadians could come the other way with their driver's licenses. Then 9/11 happened and we all went crazy. And for some reason, we have not only stayed crazy but upped the crazy. Between Canada and the US. Because...reasons.
Ah yes, I too wish for the good old days before 9-11 and Americans became full of fear that terrorists were going to invade at every border point. As John said we could cross the border both ways with just a driver's licence, no need for passports etc. We Canadians can still re-enter Canada with just our drivers licence or even our health card at land crossings (before Covid that is, now everything is nuts until the pandemic is behind us.) However, to get into the US we have to show our Passports or have a Nexus card but hey so do Americans so we don't feel too bad.
It was a better world back then ! The USA and Canada have been slowly turning communist ! Now two bozos are running our countries ,Biden and Trudeau ! My father left Yugoslavia for freedom and work. Now that it is Croatia I would be better off there !
@John Crossman,, because Sleepy Joe now let's in every Tom, Dick and Harry on our Southern border, so of course Canada is concerned who enters their country from America .
I'm a Canadian who lives in Toronto. I feel genuinely sorry for our American friends and neighbors that have to go through this border nonsense at Angle Inlet! There's no way that American's should have to cross into Canada and go through customs several times a day just to travel to the rest of the U.S! It's lunacy! Our two countries should work together to create a solution here! I can pretty much guarantee that the majority of Canadian's would feel the same!
@amymason156Is it that the American government can't afford infrastructure or is it that they're too busy investing billions of dollars on food, shelter, and health insurance for the millions of illegal immigrants that live in America and wasting more billions of dollars playing "world police" over conflicts that are none of our business?
It wasn't Canada that tightened the borders after 9/11. You could drive to the US using a Canadian driver's license and Americans could enter Canada with a US driver's license before that change. So yeah, no thank you. Either you have reciprocal arrangements or you continue with what we have now.
I live in Buffalo and we used to have a family cottage in Fort Erie Ontario, 20 minutes away. Traffic was the only restriction. We sometimes crossed several times a day. The suggestion that local residents getting an ID makes the most sense. The locals are really the issue here. Let them pass freely. Tourists can go through the processes.
I remember freely crossing the Canadian border from Michigan (going into Sarnia, ON) even after the so-called official closure of the Canadian border. They gave folks a significant extension of the timeline for those closures because passports take a long time to process and we Michiganders were so used to being able to cross that border at will. For most of the country, I'm sure it doesn't register. But coming from a place where I grew up thinking of Canada as just another part of "home" it was jarring and confusing to find ourselves being treated like enemies instead of neighbors.
@Dan Beech My wife's family used to do that all the time when she visited her grandparents in El Paso. It was nothing for her grandmother to go to Juárez to pick something up.
Yeah, Buffalonians cross the border all the time without issue with an enhanced license. There's aslo a town called Port Roberts that's in the same situation as this Minnasotan town, and they did just fine until the pandemic closed the borders since they cross the border daily and basicallly live like they're a part of Vancouver..
Do you remember the days when you could just drive over the border? I’m Canadian and I remember being able to just say, “yep going over for some shopping today” and the border patrol would just let you go and say have a nice day.
Yes! I live near the border to Ontario (Niagara falls) and as a teen would visit often. Maybe we had to show our license, but that was it. Took less than a minute to get through customs. At least we have the memories of better times.
When I was young we use to ride our bikes across the bridge to Canada, we didn't know that it was another country. When I became d enough to drive all I needed was to tell customs where I was born, once in awhile I was asked to show my drivers license. I haven't been to Canada since 9/11. Canada has beautiful white sandy beaches which I miss going to.
I still do that a couple times a week now Covid restrictions have relaxed. Showing my passport is a bit of a pain but it is what it is. I remember the old days too when you could enter without any documentation but those days are long gone. Mind you, we still have hour long line ups of American's waiting to come up here to Canada to fish every summer and our tourist industry nearly went broke when Covid closed the borders.
canadian border patrol will give you a remote boarder access pass that allows you to cross remote boarders like angle inlet for a year for 30 dollars. the only time you have to check into those remote boarders is if you buy something to claim. i have worked in that area a lot and used this system. it is great. more people need to know about that sustem
@@mikeb8342 yes they are importing and exporting. i guarantee they paid big taxes on the property they have tracks on etc. there is nothing free. the 30 dollars is cheap to travel freely.
This is interesting and I live in the suburbs of Vancouver, and noticed how similar this situation is to Point Roberts, WA and them having to cross over into BC as the only land access to the rest of the States. Our provincial government made some special accommodations for Pt Roberts residents who often depend on BC for key infrastructure like hospitals and such so they could get limited access to Canada for that sort of stuff and not be completely cut off from the world. The simplest solution seems like it would be to have places like that just join Canada, but then how would the people feel about that? They're Americans, not Canadians and many of them don't actually want that. If I were living in a Canadian town similarly isolated from the rest of Canada by some freak border nonsense, I wouldn't want to be turned into an American any more then the Americans who live under that nonsense would want to be forced to become Canadians.
I grew up in Surrey in the 60's. Vancouver was a long ways. I reckon now you can't tell where one city ends and the next begins My family moved to Las Vegas NV. thats a whole other crazy time in my life
@@simoneconsciousobserver3105 "I reckon now you can't tell where one city ends and the next begins" pretty much, except the divides between Surrey and New West Minster and Richmond and Vancouver as there's the Fraser River dividing them, and similarly between North Van and Vancouver as we've got the Burrard Inlet doing the same. But yeah, where water doesn't get in the way, all the cities have pretty much merged into one at this point. We've got a couple of rural areas amid all this still, due to the Agricultural Land Reserve, which preserves farmland on the outskirts of Surrey, and along the NE parts of Port Coquitlam and parts of Pitt Meadows. Then last I heard, there's still the historic Avalon Dairy farm right in the middle of urban Vancouver! A strange sight that was when I first saw it riding my bike past, cow pastures in the middle of urban/suburban sprawl.
@@Seriously_Unserious Thanx! When our family moved from Surrey to Las Vegas NV US in 1972, there were 200k population. After 30yrs I bailed, never to move back. There was just shy of 1.5 million ppl. I moved to BF Iowa, population of the town was about 700. Culture shock on many levels lol. I did love it for about 7 yrs and moved to Maui upon receiving SSDI as I have a spinal cord injury. Don't fret. I'm happy as can be not having schlep around so much lol. I watch a YT channel, Howtohunt and Steve's in BC. You cannot beat the scenery in that part of the world! Peace Love n Harmony One and All
There's also a town in Washington State called Point Roberts that can only be reached by entering Canada. It's attached to Canada and physically separated from the US. During covid when the Canadian border was closed, it created hardship for people on both sides of the border. Finally, the governor of Washington worked out a deal with Canadian authorities to allow Point Roberts citizens to cross into Canada without have to take a covid test and be quarantined.
I live in Vancouver and Point Roberts depends on Canadians for its income; not to mention the scores of islands between Washington and BC that straddle the border. This video took an entirely biased US take on things with no Canadians being interviewed. Do these same people think Mexican border towns should be treated with kid gloves by THEIR border protection? Terrible journalism.
@@ChrisHillslixer at least, us citizens can still travel easily to Canada ,I love the US this is my second home away from home ,all my kids were born here but most of the people here in the USA have no idea how hard and expensive is to get an US visa,Almost impossible and depending on the type of visa is a long long waiting list for a Mexican native.
@@ChrisHillslixer they cant interview Canadian citizens though. Canadians lost their minds the last few years. Forced vaccinations with expiremental vaccine, arresting citizens for not wearing masks while Alberta government officials dine on roof top no masks, proof of vaccines with 2 week quarentine for truck drivers going between US and Canada, arresting pastors for having services, taping off sections in stores so people dont buy non essential items beside the items they were in the store buying, curfews for walking dogs, forcing compelled speech or arrested for hate crime, freezing peoples bank accounts because they supported protests by liking Facebook post, taking protestors children from them and I can go on. Just saying Canada can F off after all that. The Mexico boarder is an issue here. However the majority of people agree the border needs fixed now. Its the government that destroyed the border security. We want it fixed. In Canada you guys supported all that crazy stuff. You guys were competing with China and Australia at some points for worst place to live during covid. China is its own thing. Between you guys and Australia in first world countries it was a race to be the most repressive. Why would out citizens want people like that controlling their lives? Putting expiramental vaccines into children that had more risk of dying from the flu. Why should out citizens want to be part of that group think Canadians supported. I would pass on that too.
@@ChrisHillslixer No need to interview Canadians. Their government has created the problem, and seems disinclined to fix anything. About all that's left is to put up strong barriers to Canadians crossing into the US. And put up a customs booth plus full inspection for the train line, to be removed after Northwest Angle and Point Roberts access issues are resolved.
I don't think this is a "blame Canada" situation here. It's more a "blame politicians" situation. As a Canadian, I can think of at least 5 viable solutions, but the US government / Minnesota government needs to work with Canadian / Ontario government. Situations like these don't have to exist
As a Minnesotan, a lot of us cherish the Angle if not for our awareness of their plight, at least for the quirk it gives to our state. If there were a way that Minnesota & Manitoba (the province they need to drive through) could resolve it, I'm sure at least Minnesotan politicians would try to come to some sort of resolve, but in truth as this is not just a border between two states, but two actual sovereign countries, I think it's more up to members of our national offices or bureaucrats to sort out a solution. For a couple hundred people, I don't think they would do it without there being a meaningful positive impact on their popularity.
@@KatInHerKat there should be exceptions for people who are actually residents of that area to able to freely travel thru that part of Canada, in order to work and live freely. Minnesotans are some of the nicest people you'll meet. There shouldn't be a problem.
@Arn Cla Indeed, both our countries, the USA and Canada have been invaded by people who have no ties to our European heritage, culture, or history, and yet the governments that are supposed to serve The People are serving foreigners which have no business being here.
There is a tiny peninsula in British Columbia called Point Roberts, it is part of the U.S. It was the go to place to drink on a Sunday because drinking was prohibited on Sunday in Canada. The drinking law was changed in the 1980s and Point Roberts was no longer required by thirsty Canadians.
Its also acrossing point for illegal immigrants my Japanese friend was a 1960 student refugee after fleeing Japanese mass murder of student who rose up. He live in New York for 30 yrs before leaving as he came just walked over in one small towns like these along the border.
As someone who grew up in Northern Ireland, took a bus through the Republic of Ireland then got on a boat to France without passing customs or showing a passport this seems crazy. How hard is it to issue the few dozen people of this tiny community a free travel document? I mean I now currently live in England but have a Republic of Ireland passport (which I got sent to me via Scotland) and nobody bats an eyelid.
That won't work though. Unlike Europe, the US is not transit friendly. once you get to America, you would need your own car to get around. And generally speaking, Canadians can go to America with Visa on Arrival and vice versa. It's just because of COVID where people went crazy
Actually a pass called NEXUS is available that allows easier travel between our two countries for residents who cross the border frequently. When I was a kid we could cross to the US without any form of documentation in either direction. However, the border became more restricted over time mainly due to US problems with Mexican immigration issues that eventually lead to Canadians being required to show our ID from time to time when entering the US. Then as soon as 9/11 happened the American government became totally paranoid about cross border travel which had far reaching effects on our border communities. Now Americans are required to produce their passport to reenter the US after travel to Canada without a great deal of red tape and searches. So to be fair they decided Canadians had to show their passport as well. However, Canadians returning to Canada from the US do not have to produce their passport to reenter Canada just any government ID such as a Driver's license. Americans, strictly speaking, can also enter Canada by showing their driver's licences, however, because Americans have to show their American passport to renter the US they just show Canada Customs their passports as well. Crazy set up since in this pair of border towns both Canadians and Americans work in each other towns and in many cases American's have recreational homes in Canada so some of us cross the border daily and what was once a very a simple process has become exceedingly complex and tedious.
We used to fish the Canadian side of Rainy Lake on the Ontario-Minnesota border. We stopped because every year it got harder and harder to cross the border. This only hurts the resort owners on both sides of the border. But of course when you live and/or vacation in flyover country, the policy makers for both our countries don’t care.
Spoiler Alert - CN rail has to call the us/canada border when approaching Warrod/Rainy River/Fort Frances/International Falls. They require clearance before continuing. They're stopped on average twice in that small window. Once for a face to face with the crew, and once for bridge clearance into internal falls.
... and Bill Gates Foundation happens to be the largest shareholder of that "Canadian Railway" that carries almost exclusively goods bound for the US midwest.
This was a very enlightening video! As a Minnesotan, I wondered what was going on for those people of Angle Inlet when the pandemic made the Canadian border completely shut down. I was mildly thinking that maybe the Lake of the Woods exclaves would become a part of Canada if that kept up.
I lived in Alberta Canada. I am a Canadian, While I lived there just going for Sunday drives through all the little back roads in the summer , it was amazing how many times I would be driving along and suddenly, I found I would be driving along and when I looked up I'd find was on an American dirt road and I had never crossed the border. To us we found it funny . It really is an un-defend border. It was normal to just end up somewhere in another Country This was common and our Southern neighbours found the same thing. We never crossed over with nefarious things in our heads or our cars. As far as I knew the people Here or there were al so alike it never made a difference . I am very happy with our neighbours. Yea U S A and yea Canada . We are so lucky to be so similar. I couldn't wish for greater friends Than USA and Canada I hope that never changes .
I’m American, and I really think this is just border agents on both sides with little man syndrome. If the case were reversed, I could care less if Canadians were driving through the US just to get home/ go shopping etc. We should treat each other like the friends we are. Sometimes I wish we had open borders with our northern neighbor and shared the same currency.
@@GeeBee86 Unfortunately open border is not going to happen. Too many jobs would be lost. It's not only border customs agents but enormous administration of taxes and duties in commercial traffic and trade. It's a complicated and expensive monster. I crossed the border thousands of times in a commercial vehicle. Attitude of border agents on both sides is not much different than those in former Soviet Union block. Especially after 9/11. Once you cross the border you find out that ordinary people, businesses, chains are just the same. Abolish that border for good , like Berlin wall !!!
Randomly came across this video and was LMAO over your driving skills. I grew up in MN and my folks go ice fishing on Lake of the Woods a lot every winter. Thanks for the video, I learned a lot about the state I lived in from birth to when I went off to college.
The reason the train corridor is treated differently is that it's literally a railroaded path. A car driver can lie about where he's going. A train driver can't. The train isn't able to turn off the route and go on a scenic tour of Minnesota. The issue was made worse because of what happened with Alaska during the pandemic. Canada originally made an exception to the border crossing ban for US citizens driving back and forth between Alaska and the rest of the US. But then several US citizens were cought using the lie "I'm going to Alaska" when they weren't, to bypass border restrictions. Unfortunately for the citizens of this place, the ban on using that exception affected them too even though the problem that caused it was the Alaska lie.
I can see the alaska lie being done more on the west coast though. Minnesota is midwest, pretty much upper middle of the country. Would literally take days of driving. And that sucks that even happens...stupid lying people trying to cheat the law.
Back in 1997 I remember being able to cross the Detroit/Windsor border or the Port Huron / Sarnia border each with just my Michigan driver's license. One time there was a big traffic jam so they just opened the gates and let like 200 cars into the US from Canada without stopping anyone for questions. Good times!!!
As a resident of Minnesota, I'm glad you showcased this. We MNs are hardy winter folk, and these are clearly the hardiest. Fishing and hospitality, and probably more driving on the winter lake than recommended (but smartly so, because we respect ice thickness yep yep). Smells like Minnesota.
My Swedish and Norwegian grandparents left Rousseau County, Mn. and walked north to the Rainy River District to homestead. Apparently Mn. wasn't COLD ENOUGH for them.
You and the folks that you interviewed have made some very good points. As a Canadian, I'd also just to point out the same probable border issues if Canadians end up in the USA accidentally. It's a two way street. Unfortunately, I believe this video is not balanced in its presentation of the "facts". That being said, by and large, are two counties seem to have a fairly good relationship and hopefully that will continue.
Hopefully one day America will annex Western Canada, grant Quebec independence, and turn Ontario and Vancouver into puppet states. The Maritimes can go back to the Brit’s in exchange for some strategic islands in the Atlantic, Indian, and/or Pacific Oceans.
In the summer of 1980, I was stationed at USCG Station Niagara. It is located at the mouth of the Niagara River where it meets Lake Ontario. Halfway across the river is the international border. Niagara On The Lake in Ontario is directly opposite Station Niagara and the historic Old Fort Niagara. We would train with the Canadian Coast Guard and help each other and boaters in distress regardless of the dots on a map. I think our counties could and should work together to return to that point. Small towns that grew up on either side of the border should be able to visit their friends and family and not have to drive 30 miles out of the way to visit someone who lives two houses away. It’s a stupid process for two strong Allies and trading partners.
I think each nation has built enough trust in each other that we should remove the need for passports. Mexico should be part of that agreement, all 3 nations are part of NAFTA already and heavily rely on each other. They are the biggest trading partners. People don't realize how much trade goes on between nations, just for an example, people should do a web search and see how many cars are built in Mexico. We should considere a test for 1 year without passports and see how it works.
Actually we can and have at least that has been the case in my experience. Yes after 9/11 US customs made us jump through extra hoops to enter the Us when until then if Id was asked for a driver's licence would do. Then things deteriorated a little more after the US immigration services started requiring US citizens show their passports to reenter the US from Canada. I understand the panic and fear the attack had on the American psyche and we all have to live with it. Living on the border and crossing to the US on average twice a week before covid Crossing the border either direction is a little inconvenient but that's life. I have seen many Americans making a big fuss about Canada "bullying those poor Americans" forgetting that crossing the border has never been a big deal for either of us until Covid arrived and the border's closed. What some American's are conveniently forgetting is that America also closed its borders to Canadians for the same reason the ban worked both ways. Once the total ban eased those individuals who were up to date on their vaccinations could enter again if they were free of Covid. In fact a number of essential workers were never prevented from crossing the border. Nurses, long haul truckers and others were given some exemptions early on before the arrival of vaccines. Now the border is back open again the issue is moot. Every adult in Northwest Angle can and should have a NEXUS card that allows fast tracked crossing a system that has been available for decades.
I was just going to mention Point Roberts, I have gone there many times. There is a city up in northern Canada next to a small town in Alaska, the American kids who go to a Canadian school couldn't cross the border because of covid. I thought our government should have made exceptions for them
Point Roberts is in Washington State, not Alaska! Kind of the same situation as this video. But The weather is more temperate and you can get there by boat most of the year (storms excluded).
@@ThePDXMike1 I live In British Columbia I know where Point Roberts is I've been there many times. I was making the point that our government should have cut some slack to Point Roberts and the American city up North
@@ThePDXMike1 I don't think he was claiming that Point Roberts was in Alaska. I think he wanted to mention Point Roberts and then also mention another place in Alaska that has a similar border problem.
Many years ago, I was in Lansing Michigan watching my older son's school compete in a science olympiad. Since there was a long wait until the next set of tests I told my wife I was going to go get some beer. She said I should be back soon. So I left Lansing, drove through Detroit, and went under the tunnel into Windsor. When entering Canada, the customs person asked how long I was going to stay in Canada and what was my purpose for travel. I told him I was going to be in Canada for about an or so I could get some beer at the "Beer Store" and then I asked him where it was. After getting directions, I drove over to the beer store and bought some cases of good Canadian beer and then went back over the border and drove back to Lansing just in time to continue watching my son's Science Olympiad team. Hell, I preferred snow skiing in Canada as well instead of northern Michigan. My friend and I simply crossed over at Soo Saint Marie. Skiing was great there, there was cold beer available (some of which I never had in other parts of Canada), and of course we picked up cases of beer at the Beer Store for our return. When asked by American customs if we had any Canadian purchases to declare we said we had some cases of beer. Too bad things can't get better. Loved Canadian beer though, so many different types of beer. Always enjoyed my trips in Canada. Now things didn't always go well. When taking my wife and parents over to see Niagara Falls I was kicked out of Canada at Sarnia customs because of my wife's Japanese mother's passport (her mom didn't speak much English and didn't know what was going on) had a problem. Customs then told us we had to go back to the U.S. Of course on the return trip back to Port Huron, American customs wanted to know why I was returning back so early. I told it was nothing, but I was told to go into the office. I explained the problem with my wife's passport and I was told there was nothing wrong with it and that I should go back and tell Canadian customs just that. I said I wasn't going to do that, so the American customs guy call the Canadian customs and after a little bit of a shouting match on the phone, he hung up the phone and told me I could go back into Canada. I told him I didn't feel comfortable about that, but he gave me a pass to use the ramp to get back to Sarnia. I looked at the pass and it said it was for those that were being deported. I said what the heck is this and he said to use it so I didn't have go through American customs again. Once there we were taken into the Canadian customs office and a senior level agent took my wife's mother's passport, stamped it, and said "welcome to Canada". The rest of the trip was great. I always tell my friends about how I was kicked out of Canada and then kicked out of the US.
Canada has a piece of land with a similar problem: Campobello Island. It's part of NB, but its only land connection is a bridge to Maine. So residents have to drive through the US to get to the rest of Canada.
There are a few places similar to this on our border, not to mention an entire state. There's actually a library that straddles the border entirely in Quebec/Vermont. Good luck getting anything to change though. It's hard enough getting one government to listen, let alone two to listen then coordinate together.
As a kid who grew up in MN, I took vacations in Winnipeg with my parents, and even in College we would drive up because the drinking age was 18. We did this with nothing more than our DL and a 5 min chat w border officers. This is the way it should be today.
Illegally cross into Canada from the US? You'll probably be questioned briefly then sent back with a warning. Illegally cross into the US from Canada? Arrested, flown to a detention center in another state, detained possibly for days or weeks before a judge decides to accept your plea that it was an accident.
Yep, I grew up in northeast ND. Many trips to Winnipeg to watch the original Jets, even made it to a Grey Cup. Picking strawberries in the summer and more trips to Fun Mountain. The good old days.
It was, until the American government went nuts about border security after 9/11 then all bets were off. What has Canada to gain by creating a corridor for a couple of hundred people across the swamps of south eastern Mantioba? Would the US government be willing to pay our Border Services to patrol this corridor? I seriously doubt it. However, to ensure Canada's border integrity they would have to do this.
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I would think that residents of the Angle could be issued like a scan badge, kinda like the EZ Pass lane on a toll road, and be able to come and go as they please. Pretty minor investment, to boot.
They could also just become dual citizens and make the land Canadian. There would be no more border to cross and they can still be Americans living in the same homes they do now. Kind of solves all the problems. There's only 54 people living there now. Oh, and an ez pass is good in theory, until American gun smugglers use them to bring illegal weapons into Canada.
A very similar thing happens in Washington state with a place called Point Roberts. Unless you take a boat, the only way you can enter Point Roberts is to exist the US then travel through Canada at the city of Tsawwassen to re-enter the US. During COVID, a emergency ferry service started between Point Roberts, WA and Bellingham, WA. There are many Canadians who live in Point Roberts and were not able to access their homes or vacation homes during this time.
One thing you didn't mention in the background history is that the French had built a small fort near where Angle Inlet townsite is now. IIRC the fort eventually was abandoned and the British got it, then ceded it to America. That's why they used it as one of the few known geographic points when making the new border. I believe Canada used it later as a border - that's why the west shore of the lake is in Manitoba, the east shore in Ontario!
Maybe they should build a train track up there, it couldn’t be abused, and they’re already is a Canadian train going through the US so it shouldn’t be a problem.
The Canadian Island of Campobello faces the exact same issue, having to drive through the US to get to mainland Canada. Their solution during Covid is a year-round ferry.
As a Canadian, I can see a very simple and easy solution to this. Think of this as if running a business where the State and the Province have to abide by international treaties related to the border. Without re-opening the Treaty to redraw the border, a corridor can be defined/established within the Canadian lands, under a "Licencing Agreement" to provide US citizens with the "Right To Enter". Details of maintenance of the corridor and associated costs, and reciprocal termination rights can surely be negotiated. Problem Solved,,,,, but only if businessmen do the talking and Not politicians.
Agree, and mostly because I know and have to vote for MN politicians. I think that Canada and MN need to work out a deal for this town in the corridor option or a crossing option and these only 122 people are given the right to get to their own state for any needs that may occur along with the fact that they do support Canada with their shopping and business they bring from themselves and their businesses as well. MN politicians can't even deal with Minneapolis, let alone other areas of the state.
Yeah I can see that happening soon. If the bureaucrats began working on this it will be easier to travel to Mars than crossing the border under a new treaty. Have you any idea how slowly competing bureaucracies operate? 😄
@@blackdandelion5549 well to be honest our local politicians have higher priorities like our schooling systems, probably the biggest topic that gets debated between our elected officials. Since the population up north from us is minuscule compared to issues with Minneapolis, I dont see this being a topic of conversation for a while because of the hurdles needed to work something out with another country
@@dem279 I understand your point and the idea of it AND I would challenge you and ask how much they actually get done in the Twin Cities? It's mostly bickering and actual change is rarely seen. If this gets put on the back burn it will simply stay there as Minneapolis will NEVER get things worked out from schooling to policing or defunding the Police or reinstating the Police to the amount of crime happening right now and the amount of shops leaving the cities. I loved Calhoun Square and the surrounding area 20 yrs ago, now. . . . lots of empty building and my favorite eats and shopping are gone. Stores on Lake St. in Minneapolis for 115yrs have decided to close their doors so I would say that it's a crap job with Minneapolis. St. Paul has also lost everything from large businesses to small places, but hey, we have a GIANT Scientology building now!!! This is one of those things that if put on the back burner will stay there as Minneapolis takes constant work and is never settled.
Congrats on doing another great video on another exclave. It was fun having you come out to Point Roberts and I was thinking maybe you should do the trifeca of northern border exclaves. You could finish it off with a visit to Campobello Island which is our sister city in Canada. They have history and quirkiness like the Angle and the Point.
In 1965 I had a girlfriend that lived in Winnipeg, Canada. I live in Bloomington, Minnesota. So on Friday night I would jump in my car and drive up to Winnipeg and spend the weekend with her. I didn’t even get checked driving in or out of Canada. It was a open border!
As a Canadian that travels by land to the US at least twice a year for over a decade pre covid, the boarders between Canada and the US and the boarder patrol on both side are just a club of aholes power tripping so hard it is pathetic. I have had fewer issues traveling to and from Europe then I have driving to the US. The Canadian boarder service on the US boarder and in airports are the least Canadian people I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with. The US guys are polite enough, but froggy. As for what should happen, seriously there has to be a pass or something they can give the residents. Show the passport, verify the vehicle and let then go. Or just build an isolated road that only goes to the town. As for the whole school bus issue an isolated road makes more sense than expecting children to have their passports daily.
Yup. Europeans have a much better system. I live in Buffalo NY and travel across the border countless times in my life (I also have family up there). Since 9/11 the US customs side has become the worse upon re-entry... they are nasty and unpleasant to deal with, even for us US citizens. The Canadian side personnel, while not perfect, are 10 times better and polite. It used to be a simple task to cross with just a simple ID and now is a major headache (enhanced ID and/or passport required). We are neighbors and people with proper ID should be able to pass easily.
Want some REAL fun? Try shipping goods across the border!! I can bring Heroine in from Denmark easier than I can bring a synthesizer down from Calgary. Six months of sheer hell!!
I remember traveling to the falls etc. (both sides) when I was young (I'm 42 now).... we was crossing the bridge and the Canadian border patrol felt the need to target us, search everything (which we had to pack all back up), and restricted one of us from entering for no reason other than to be dicks. The dude literally had to watch his wife and kids cross the border without him because he didn't want to ruin their trip when they traveled all that way to take the kids there. lol So yeah the power tripping has went on forever but that's to be expected with many that is put into positions of "authority" tbh, shit goes straight to many peoples heads... especially when it comes to foreigners as it's easier to get away with. I'm certain Europe has many of these pricks as well as it seems to fall into much of human nature around the globe. Shit in some countries people "disappear" at borders so I guess we should count ourselves lucky. We laugh about it now but was certainly hella disappointing at the time for sure. I don't know how it is in Canada but properties can't be land locked here in the U.S., access has to be provided to every property be it traveling across another's property in a defined right of way or what not. So I agree that a well defined right of way would be the simplest method of fixing the issue but we know how governments operate.... hard enough getting one to do the will of the people let alone getting two governments to easily help out the people. Pretty sad when all politicians have to do is open their mouths to say "sure" in making many lives easier eh... pff
When drawing the line to show how many Canadian cities are below the NW Angle, that was an understatement. NW Angle is at 49 latitude while the highest point in Maine is 47.
You are correct. Most people see on flat maps that it appears that Washington State and Maine is farther north, But if you follow latitude lines. The Angle is farthest point north of the 48 states.
If they get a travel corridor, then these need to be applied to a few other locals, such as Point Roberts and a half dozen other cross border towns. It could work, but we could just buy the land and give everyone dual-citizenship. Or Canada annexes Minnesota. We’ll trade you Justin Bieber…. Actually you can keep him no matter what….
You know, pretty near the entire state of Washington used to be a part of British Columbia (the province is named after the Columbia River which is not even in BC anymore - how do you think BC got it's name?) so that would just be Canada taking back what was once ours! 😝😜 For that matter, the states of Maine and the Alaskan Panhandle were once parts of Canada too.
I'm from MN. . . .I decline your Justin Bieber, but I believe a travel corridor needs to happen no matter what. As a MN we love our fishing and if there are once in a lifetime fish in that town then I am inclined to visit myself. Please keep your Justin Bieber. We would rather have the fish.
There is an Canadian Island next to Maine that is cut off from the rest of Canada similar to this. This sort of thing seems to happen all over the world and in places where the countries involved are hostile to each other.
Interesting. There's an island that belongs to Canada near where I use to live that is basically cut off from the rest of Canada except for a ferry service. Campobello Island, New Brunswick is connected to Lubec, Maine by a bridge. During the hieght of the border closure, the residents of the island were allowed to cross to get medical help and groceries.
There is a difference, Campobello Island has customs and border patrol on both sides, proof of vaccination, etc. could be checked. This place has unmanned border check-in.
How about a specific dual citizenship for those that either live, work or do both there? I do like the idea of the tunnel better if I'm honest, it's just that one option is much cheaper. Another thing that comes to mind is with the corridor, is that part of the Canadian road systems ready to take on increased traffic? You know if they made a shortcut, those south of the lake would prefer to take it instead of having to drive around the lakes to get to Canada. Definitely an interesting discussion topic. I hope those folks can come to accept an arrangement soon.
As with Point Roberts and Campobello, it's likely many residents have dual citizenship already, and that's not actually the problem. The problem is the border crossing existing. There are two real solutions: 1. Point Roberts, Angle Inlet become part of Canada and Campobello becomes part of the US, and that's literately all that happens. Residency, property ownership, etc all stay the same, just one of the border crossings is removed. There's also various other land issues like the pointed out CN rail segment that could be evened out as well to make trade less obnoxious. 2. Have permanent ferry systems in place paid by the respective states, that operate twice daily. I'm not sure how well that would work for Angle Inlet since the water can freeze over, but the idea is the same. A 40 mile tunnel would also work, but there is no way for that expense to be justified as it would cost more than selling the land to Canada. At least with Point Roberts and Campobello, a ferry is possible because both WA and NB have ferry services already. Neither of those solve the problem of emergency services and would still have to rely on the neighboring community across the border. To create a "dedicated transit corridor" just flips the problem in reverse, Ask Alaska how well that works (hint, all goods are shipped to Alaska via barge, and some by plane. Road is not used and Alaska rail is not connected to anything.) Realistically, the only solutions for Angle Inlet are extraordinarily expensive, and the most reasonable is "remove the border crossing" To which the solution everyone would prefer, is to dial back the US-CANADA land border controls back to how they were before 9/11, or remove them entirely. The entire reason the border exists is because of the potential for taxes to not be paid on merchandise bought in the respective countries, and drugs/weapons being imported illegally. Yeah, so? That problem also exists between US states and Canadian provinces, and there's no land border crossings there either. There's a very simple technical solution for this, is that all passenger vehicles, trucks, rail vehicles, and so forth that cross state/provincial borders be equipped with GPS systems that report their locations in real time while they are outside their insured state, and if the vehicle does not arrive at it's destination, or return to it's insured state within the time allocated, then send the armed border people looking for it based on the last reported location. If we can do unmanned tollbooths, we can do unmanned border crossings.
@@Kisai_Yuki Canada would never give British Columbia the money to buy point Roberts. Either BC would have to raise the money itself or the feds would buy point Roberts and make it some kind of nightmarish federal territory.
That isn't true, the bond between Australia and New Zealand is just as strong, if not stronger. There are agreements between both countries allowing citizens to travel and work in the other country without the need for a visa, also that agreement allows them to access the other countries medical system to receive Free healthcare. Americans think they are the only people living in a free country, I think they need to use google to find out that isn't the case, the education system there is obviously not teaching the history of other countries and what Americans think is patriotism is often seen as nationalism by other countries which is never good
@@lavalamp6410 We used to all cross our borders back and forth with nothing more than giving a name and where we were from. It was USA that decided that was not good enough and implemented the Passports only and no unchecked baggage rules in 2003. We Canadians are now treated like we all have Osama Bin Laden in our trunk. It was a wake up call for most Canadians, we found most Americans, even the ones in small places like the Angle Inlet as shown in this video, knew very little about us and found us to be an annoyance.
@@Singlepole I have lived in Australia for 31 years now after moving from New Zealand, I am almost 60 and have not noticed any differences between the two countries, I have had a few medical procedures including some surgery but have never paid a cent except for my taxes, I have never had medical insurance but the Australian health system treats me the same as if I was an Australian citizen. An Australian citizen would receive the same treatment in New Zealand which is how it is meant to be. Both countries have had a close relationship since colonial times and it was cemented during the Gallipoli campaign and other battles of World War 1 when both countries were part of the ANZAC alliance. The comment I responded to was just wrong, both my old and new homes are as close as twins despite being separated by 2000 KMs of ocean
@@lavalamp6410 I know very little about Australia/New Zealand borders, but I live on the Canada/USA border and have seen and felt big changes in the last 20 years.
Our family have had so many problems at the U S. border with the U.S. border guards that I could write a book about it & we were always respectful & polite with those border guards. We lived in the U.S. for 17 years & then moved back to Canada. Two of our kids still lived in the U.S. & 2 in Ontario, Canada with us. The worst thing is to live in Canada & still have an American Greencard. The U.S. border control people in the 2008 to 2015 timeframe were mostly bullies, who treated us with absolute disrespect. It improved a great deal around 2016; but we are still always very wary & nervous when crossing into the U.S. The border guards used to mix our youngest son up with an American criminal who had a similar name & height (our son is 6'5"). They would always sweep him away like a criminal. Our son is a dual citizen (American/Canadian). We obviously still travelled to the states to see our kids. The U.S. border guards often stopped us & took our car keys away. They wanted to interregate our son & I said politely that he was only 17 & still a minor & we would like to accompany him & I was told to keep my mouth shut & that we had zero rights in the U.S. Once a guard told us that our son was not an American. I said "yes he is, as he was born in the U.S. & has all of his paperwork" and he replied "that doesn't make him an American" & I said "Sorry; but yes it does, look it up". When we first came back to Canada we drove through a blizzard around Christmas time to visit our eldest son in Ohio. We were not aware that we had to bring our greencards back with us, since we lived in Canada & had our Canadian passports like everyone else crossing that day. The U.S. border guard made us go inside. Our little old dog was left alone in the freezing car. When I told them that we were concerned that he would die, they told us "tough luck & he'll live, now get inside!". We waited for an hour inside while the guard supposedly spoke to his boss. When he finally came out he yelled at me roughly to "come here", as he headed in another direction & I asked "where are we going" & he yelled at me that it was none of my business & that I better follow him. All this terrible behaviour in front of my wife & 2 kids (we have 4 kids in all). So we went to the other side of the road & then the guard said "I spoke to my boss & since you don't have your Greencards, you will have to either go back home & get them (1 1/2 hour drive one-way in a blizzard), or else pay us a U.S. $500 fine". I said "first of all, you people know for a fact that we have Green cards & we all have valid passports. I'm sorry; but there is no way that we are going to pay U.S.$500." Then I asked "and do you mean to tell us that you are going to send my family & me back to the Toronto area for another 1 1/2 hour drive each way through a snowstorm, leaving our other son all alone on Christmas day in Ohio, when we have our passports & you are fully aware that we have Greencards?". He then ordered me to "go sit down & wait while I speak to my boss again". We waited for another 1/2 hour & he came out of the room and roughly said "come here & bring your family!" When we got into the elevator, he said "I couldn't tell you upstairs because we have too many cameras & microphones. You are lucky that my boss is in a good mood. If any of my collegues stop you and ask for your Greencard, tell them that you forgot them in your car. Now get out of here now!"... When we got back in our car, we were happy that our old dog had not died & then I said to my wife "even if somehow they had to do those things, which I highly doubt, their colleagues were certainly not going to ask us about the Greencards after he released us & why did he have to talk to us so rudely throughout like we are criminals?" I once saw two women guards give a young Canadian couple hell & threatened to separate them because they were quietly laughing about something together & the guard told them to be quiet & asked the couple if this looked like a comedy shop?"... Seriously??? In about 2015, I needed to get a working Visa for a project that I was on, as I was working for a major well known international IT company & there was a Project that I needed to work on in the U.S. Our company lawyers suggested that I should try go to the Detroit border crossing to interview for my Visa because the NY crossing officials were so brutal. So I made an appointment & I drove 3 hours to get there. When I arrived, 2 other guards told me that the officer that I had the appointment with decided to go home early. So I had to make a new appointment for the next day. I drove home 3 hours & the next day drove back to the Detroit border. That next day, I waited for about 2 hours past the time of my appointment. Our company lawyers had given me a very professional large booklet with all of the completed documents that I would need. The officer finally told me to come to his desk. He reviewed my paperwork & then asked "where is a copy of your pay slip"? I replied that I don't receive paychecks or slips, as I receive a statement online & it gets deposited directly into my checking account & that the lawyers included the official statement in the package booklet. He told me that he didn't believe me & that everybody gets pay checks and he told me to go back home & get one of those statements & get a lawyer or a bank manager to sign it & then return to him the next day with the signed copy. So after driving back & forth for several more hours (all wasting my work week), I returned the next day & he made me wait another couple of hours before approving my Visa. Talk about a ridiculous mean spirited process! As I said at the beginning, I could write a a book about it because there are many more stories of us getting bullied & treated very badly by the U.S. border guards, including our son advising one guard that it was the 3rd time that he personally had investigated his situation & that guard was both embarrassed & totally unaware of that fact. The irony is that when I went to turn in the Green card at the NY border crossing, because I was so tired of getting hassled partially because of it, the U.S. guards were trying to talk me out of it & were willing to give me another 1/2 year extension on the validity date because they kept telling me how "valuable" it was. I was so happy to get rid of the thing that day!!! Another time, we were sitting in a very crowded NY border crossing room & the guards were talking very roughly & rudely to people from many different countries (Germany, England etc...), who were travelling from Canada to the U.S. & we said to each other, "imagine that this is the face of the U.S. to the world & for many of these people, it may well have been their first exposure to America." As I said above, having gone through hell so many times crossing into the U.S., we found ourselves avoiding crossing into the U.S. for a long time. We never complained or spoke or wrote publicly about it because we were quite sure that they would investigate & that we would pay a severe price of some kind when crossing in the future. I am even wary about writing this now, although as I mentioned at the beginning, our experiences have been much better from about 2017 onwards, although we sure wouldn't want to test that assumption in any way, shape or form. We are still surprised & happy whenever we cross into the U.S. without getting hassled, bullied or harassed...
That's funny because I've had nothing but horrible situations with Canadian border guards. Talk about arrogance and ignorance. "We don't need or want you here." was what I was told
@@chaosXP3RT , I am surprised to hear that, as none of our family (grown kids & sister) nor our American friends who live in the U.S. have ever had a problem entering into Canada. I can't even imagine a trained Canadian border guard saying that they don't want you here, unless there were previous criminal or drug related issues...
That is so stupid and unnecessary. The US and Canada are basically the same country. I can understand being more strict with people who aren't from either country and traveling abroad but still. Absolutely ridiculous that they felt it was necessary to treat people like that.
This is almost the same situation as Point Roberts near Tsawwassen BC. They had a clause though for them that they were allow to cross the border unrestricted due to the fact they are waterlocked on all sides.
The US Canada Border issues have effected communities from the Pacific Ocean in the west to the Atlantic Ocean in the east since 9/11. It’s true, it would be difficult too return to pre 9/11 days, but that is exactly what needs to be done. It has cut a Library in half, roads down the middle, and separated nextdoor neighbors for far too long. Too me, it’s the least expensive and most logical thing to do.
no it is Easy to Return to pre 9/11. Frist start with a Big spanking of the FBI. they have become chickens and would do their Jobs unless its easy. Now come on Do you realy Need 19 cars 29 men to take care of a 75 year old man in poor shape. Do you need to kill a Women holding a Baby. the Problem is there is no account ably at the FBI. The FBI man who killed a lady holding a baby had nothing happen to him. I been told the FBI man in charge of the 29 men 19 cars got a raise
I have been going to the northwest angle for 20 years, have friends with cabins up there. The area is beautiful and has great people. We fish, icefish and snowmobile up there, visit the resorts for great food and drinks. When I first started going, you didn't need a passport, now you do. Checking in and out at the border is just part of the adventure. This was a very good video, nicely done. Just leave it the way it is, not everything needs to change because someone thinks so.
Didn't people that live there comment that this disrupts their lives? (going to school, funerals, etc.) Maybe your using your passport is all a part of an adventure; do you think passports are the answer for the other comings and goings, too? 🤔
@@freeto9139 Passport requirement was caused by the US after 911, the US required passports to cross and Canada followed suit. Before that we all crossed the border with basic ID. If the US would drop the passport requirements, I'm pretty sure Canada would follow.
I live in Vancouver and don't forget about the other land-locked piece of USA - Point Roberts. Although surrounded by water on three sides you still have to come to Canada to get to this little piece south of the 49th by car, unless you have a boat then you can just sail to the marina from the rest of Washington State. People in Canada would always go to P.R. to get gas then come back.
@@ButterfatFarms I have many friends on those islands and it is of a broad sweeping consensus amongst all the islanders that they relish in the fact that there are NO bridges connecting them to the mainland.
@@ButterfatFarms The thing is, Point Roberts doesn't feel like any island at all - it just happens to be that little bit of land south of the 49th. All the Gulf Islanders are self sufficient in one way or the other....it's just the younger, more transient crowd that makes the changes in their lives by hopping about for the sake of convenience.
A simple solution would be a category of Canadian "permanent residence" granted to everyone living in Angle Inlet. Renewed every 10 years, and your primary residence must be at Angle Inlet. The annual fee charged to the state of Minnesota is tax revenue to the Canadian side for road maintenance ( since it seems the State of Minnesota should be plowing the ice roads). This way, no citizenship is given up or granted out of convenience, a basic tax pays for the service given, the folks of Angle Inlet can carry on with their lives, and the State of Minnesota need not spend money on infrastructure to service their own people. Same can be done for Point Roberts. Indeed, a deal could be made that the fees paid by the Canadian railway to the US, could go back to the Canadian side for the road maintenance.
Permanent residents get free health care. Not sure Minnesota would be willing to pay for that. And if they did, I think the population would go from 119 to thousands of people with chronic illnesses. I don't think this is a simple solution.
So a special condition would be that no programs offered to Canadian citizens would apply in this case. You could also state that anyone moving into the area would be treated as a seasonal worker if not related to the residents now living in the area.
Simplest solution is to just redraw the border correctly. Think about it, my Yankee friends, REAL cradle-to-grave healthcare without going bankrupt (Canadians live many years longer than Americans) REAL beer....and the list goes on.
Do you actually think that something more complex than tying your shoes could be pulled off by politicians from two separate countries? Also, how many votes are involved? The few votes they have aren' t going to change an election so they don't matter. No one cares about a little town that is only screwed because of incompetent surveyors. Sad but true.
Here in Tucson Arizona there was a survey error that zaggs every street going east-west from one north-south street. All streets are layed out from the state baseline latitude and longitude. I never played attention to it until I took a geology course. Most people would never even notice it.
There is actually a second town with the same problem in Vancouver, on the other side of the country on the west coast called "Pont Roberts". Point Roberts is a pene-exclave of the United States on the southernmost tip of the Tsawwassen peninsula, south of Vancouver, Canada. The area, which had a population of 1,191 at the 2020 census, is reached by land from the rest of the United States by traveling 25 mi through Canada.Wikipedia Coordinates 48.9884° N, 123.0569° W. I have a friend who lives there. Thanks for the report, Special carve outs should be made for these people. Special passports or something.
@@OfftheCuff_Series Sorry, didn't see that. I knew about this land in the Great Lakes but not Point Roberts until I had a friend move there. I think residents there shouldn't suffer the consequences of bad decisions but given special dispensation as their "own sovereignty" to travel back and forth.
@@OfftheCuff_Series Estcourt Station, Maine... there's a really good story about Canadian Michel Jalbert who was arrested while buying gas/petrol 30 ft across the border. It created an international incident.
Coming into this, I thought this meant like the American City controlled by Canada in a way where theres Canadian stores & Restaurants everywhere while American stuff that doesn't exist in Canada is rare and stuff like that because Canada somehow had power over the land despite it being part of the USA for some strange reason. Great video despite that not beung the case!
These anomalous places are fascinating! With only 119 people it would seem easy and inexpensive to just give everyone a transponder to keep in their car, like a Fast Pass, but for the border crossing… Or easier still, dual citizenships.
@@OfftheCuff_Series Yeah, like one of those "ankle" trackers the courts put on you....but permanent......Say, just imagine after a few years, a full cemetery full of "ankle"trackers.....ahahah, too funny....
Another area I feel sorry for is Derby Line Vermont. The US-Canada border goes through the public library, a few homes and a business. There are other areas in Vermont where the border runs through homes or right next to it so the people own land in both the US and Canada.
That town should be bubbled and let anyone cross freely. By all means surround it on the _outside_ with checkpoints, but it shouldn't be illegal to just cross the street.
@@Ston3dNinja13 That's just 1/2 of the governments involved in this conundrum. You forgot about the Parliament in Ottawa. With Mr Blackface Emergencies Act Worships the CCP Trudeau in there right now, good luck getting anything sensible out of him! We Canadians can't and he depends on our votes to stay in office at the next election. Though I guess Dementia Biden isn't much of a treasure either. I guess we all got our problems in our nation's capitals.
I visited The Falls in June of 2020 and with the exception of one casino and a few souvenir stands on the New York side, the place was dead. Then ya looked across to the Ontario side and you felt like a kid having to stay in while everyone else played outside.
Point Roberts in Washington has exactly the same problem being disconnected to the US. The towns of Beebe/Derby Line VT and Stanstead Quebec have something similar that their town has been split in two since 9/11 completely forced the border and made the one town essentially split in half.
@@danallanson5990 CN Railway pays to maintain easements for their railroad here in the states. Why wouldn't the US pay to maintain a travel corridor easement too? You Canadians would get improved infrastructure at no cost to you!
There's also an American City in the NW that the American people had to cross Canada to get back to the States. Caused a horrible conundrum during the pandemic shutdown, for years. It's near/West of Blaine, WA.
@@OfftheCuff_Series It was in the News for awhile recently bc of Covid, vaxes, the Border lock down, etc. Would you be so kind as to share the link w me?
Canadian here. This was very interesting. I’ve honestly never heard of this while my son has been taught about Points Roberts, Washington in high school but not “yet” this. I wonder why that is.
Seems to me, and I’m Canadian, that we simply go back to the 80’s system. Besides today with the tracking systems that could be used via license plates etc. this shouldn’t be so hard. There is a similar situation on the west coast I think.
Parts of the border that are close together e.g. Beebe Plain, Derby Lines/Stanstead and so on, should just be bubbled. Move the border further back on both sides and let people move freely within the town limits. It should not be a crime to cross a street. There was a problem on the Alaska/BC border during COVID where kids on the American side, who would normally use the Canadian school because they didn't have one, were stuck at home learning remotely when said school had reopened and was running normally again. Similarly they couldn't see their friends, couldn't take part in school activities, and people on both sides were unable to get to work or purchase simple supplies. There were no temporary exemptions or special cases of any kind. Border's the border, that's that.
Canada wants the land bc its valuable... that’s why they are making it so difficult... if the land was worthless they would do the passes.... if I was in the town I would just start collecting Canadians who set foot on the American land and use them as bargaining chips with the Canadian gov... albeit the Canadian gov has been off the rails for a while now 🙄🙄🙄 what else can u expect from a black face wearing, attention whore who has the power of being their leader?
The CN Rail line does cross the border, but the vast majority of the traffic on the line is bound for the USA. CN abandoned their line east out of Thunder Bay, and by agreement the small amount of traffic that needs to go east from Thunder Bay is handled by rival CP Rail on CN's behalf. The transcontinental main rail lines for both Canadian railway companies are north of the northern most point of NW Angle.
both Cn and Cp run a lot of trains through the Us because of lower cost and it is shorter. if Cp could ever fix its Chicago problem Cp would run a lot more throught the Us
I used to live 35 miles from Canada on lake Erie sometimes when you took a boat across there would be no personal in Customs you just had to sign in and supposedly check in on the way out. Those days are long gone with all the crazy restrictions today.
We still from Buffalo to Canada over Lake Erie all the time. Often to go up and eat at the Buffalo Canoe Club. If you let the coast guard know what you're doing and how many passengers via radio, we never have issues.
Back in the 1980s, my dad and I were on the Niagara river when we came across another boat with it's motor out. They asked us for a tow. They were from Niagara falls New York. So we towed them back home. Keep in mind - with your motor out on the niagara river, if you don't get help, you go over Niagra Falls - so it was kinda important to rescue them timely. Anyway, we towed them home and as we arrived, US Marshals showed up in a boat and gave my dad a large fine for breaching the US border, despite protests from the American boaters (who were really nice folk). So the 'no exceptions' thing kinda goes both ways. Even when we saved the lives of a couple of Americans.
There is a second bit of the US with the same issues south of Vancouver, in Point Roberts, WA. Can’t get in or out without crossing the lake, or going through Canada.
Please do not forget the Americans started all the boarder BS, I was raised in the 1000 island and did not even know where the boarder was , kids and boats , camping ect. We all used to camp on castle/boat island and we went on a 1000 island cruise in 2019 to show my wife where I used to play as a teen and I was shocked when the cruise stop at the island , there had to be 15 armed boarder guards , what a waste of money ,
Excellent channel and excellent videos!! Super interesting! I live in Canada near Pt. Roberts, Washington and your video on that was outstanding. Same kind of land dispute here. Give em both to Canada lol 😝 just kidding. If Pt Roberts was run by Canada they would develop the crap out of it for real estate profits. That would be sad.
@@garbageday587 *_"Winters in Minnesota are very harsh too."_* Have you not heard the old joke? Some Soviet workers were putting an electrified, barbed wire fence along the Polish/Russian border, and came to a cottage right on top of it. So they asked the farmer what he wanted and he said _"Put us in Poland"._ You can guess the punchline when the Soviets asked why. {:o:O:}
They could just make the machines quicker to use like just scanning a badge for residence. I mean it seems like there are a lot of potential solutions.
The problem didn`t happen until the American government become paranoid after 9-11. It wasn't Canada who put all the restrictions on cross border travel. However, when the US created restrictions on travel Canada tightened some of its rules as well. However while i must show my passport to enter the US when I come home all I have to show Canada Customs is a drivers licence or health card.
There has never been a travel corridor to Alaska through BC. I think Canada immigration gave a conditional travel pass lasting a few days that had to be returned when leaving Canada back to US. No dawdling or sight seeing en-route was allowed. I don't know about testing.
During the Cold War, there were THREE travel corridors through East Germany connecting West Berlin to the rest of West Germany. They were only blocked once, but after the Berlin Airlift taught Stalin a lesson, they all remained open until Germany was reunited in 1990. If travel corridors can work between bitter enemies, why not between “good neighbors?”
Because Berlin is a big city with lots of people while Angle Inlet is a teeny tiny little village. The incentive to endure the expense is higher when it's for more people.
While I think that the U.S. should invest in good and reasonable infrastructure, I also don’t think any citizen is entitled to good infrastructure to every conceivable remote location within their nation including that little section in northern Minnesota. I think the argument for a passage similar to what the United States provides for the Canadian trains passing through the United States is the most reasonable solution.
I go to the Angle once a year for fishing. I love it there. It sucked not being able to drive there in 2020-2022. We had to take a boat across the lake to get there to fish. In 2022 there was horrible wather (record high water, 40mph winds) so we had to fly in. We only fish US waters. We can drive again. We're all middle aged + men, so we really have no problems getting there. Heck, the RCMP border guard said 2 cases of beer wasn't enough for the 3 of us for 2 days (it was). The ones crossing back at Warroad were just as good, even asking who caught the big fish. This year (2024) the biggest problem is the CBP Roam wasn't working, and we had to wait till later in the day to check back into the US, officially. We fish at Angle Outopst and thank you Jason and Lisa for the great resort you run.
As a Dutchman it just feels stupid that you guys can't come to some solution. I just walked to the supermarket in Germany to get some cheap booze... And if I want i can drive/fly from here to Greece or Portugal without needing to show my ID card/passport. Just like crossing a state border in the US. I mean... You guys are so much closer to each other culturally so there must be some solution right?
That was the law prior to 9/11 you did not need a passport to go to Canada or the US. Unlike Europe which is looking to open up its borders, the US has wanted to close them down since at least Reagan.
We don’t want Americans. If they want to come here or travel through here it’s not going to be easy. Most Canadians support this. I’m sure it’s inconvenient but it’s also a simple fix if they want to become part of our country. This is them wanting to be American. So this is americas problem. Not ours.
I saw that plane coming down dangerously. This is so similar to the problems in B.C, Point Robert's, across the Street & everything changes. Greed seems to be the problem & dual citizens or pass!
Check out the community of Akwesasne on the Canada-U.S. border for quite a unique situation. It's possible to travel from part of the Canadian side of this Mohawk Reserve (the part located in Snye, Quebec) into upstate New York (and the rest of the continental U.S.) with no border checks whatsoever. Those residents also drive through the U.S. to access the rest of Canada, but in that case they go through customs on the north shore of the St. Lawrence River after crossing the bridge into Cornwall, Ontario. (Nearby Cornwall Island, Ontario, is located within the river and forms part of the Reserve as well.) The pandemic never stopped this unique community from accessing both sides of the international border.
All the drugs, weapons and humans trafficked accross that area have been a continual smuggling nightmare for CBSA, RCMP and CSIS. Campobello Island would be a better example.
The United States should sell to Canada both Point Roberts and this place for one US dollar each. The US citizens living there should be given by Canada Canadian citizenship so that they will have dual citizenship with both Canada and the US. This way they get to live where they want maintaining the lifestyle they want without losing their US citizenship. I don’t want to waste anymore of my US tax dollars on maintaining unnecessary border stations & I bet the Canadians feel the same way about their tax dollars!
Wow! So simple a solution-just can’t imagine ANYONE wouldn’t have come with that solution already 😬. Problem is that the US doesn’t recognize dual citizenship, ever. Also, you might find the Washingtonians in Point Roberts just a tad unwilling to have their properties sold out from under them, especially for $1.
Honestly, I feel like both the US and Canadian governments should agree to allow an international highway corridor that will be fenced in and monitored by electronics and surveillance camera systems, so US citizens can travel without being inconvenienced by border crossings.
You should do a video about Campebello Island NB Canada hooked to the state of Maine by Bridge and accessible to Canada only by entering the US (STILL REQUIRING PASSPORT AND VACCINE) for anyone who lives on the island to drive through the US and back into Canada.
I'm Canadian and I would support dual citizenship for all permanent residents of the NW Angle (and Pt. Roberts WA). We should throw in provincial health insurance coverage, at least in emergency cases.
dual citizenship does not prevent them from having to cress the boarder and presenting the passport of their choice. a few of the 119 ppl appear to hate having to stop at really what is they equivalent of a red light. Storm in a Tea cup. USA drama queens.
I'm Canadian and why should my taxes pay for health care for any American? Health care is not cheap, that is why tax in Canada is higher than in America.
Please remember that as a Canadian, I don't agree with my local, provincial, or federal government on a lot of things. You may have some feelings about your own government. My government does some really stupid shit, on all levels. That is not who all Canadians are, though, just who we got in our system. Hate the government, not the people. I'm just another version of you, on a side of an imaginary invisible line that someone screwed up. What a pain in the ass.
Canada is just enforcing its border laws as every country around the world enforces theirs. Do you think Americans are so exceptional that they deserve special treatment? Remember Canada loosened its border rules in August 2021 and the US didn’t follow suit until November of the same year. So this whole idea that we are treating them unfairly is ridiculous. No one is forcing these people to live there. It’s not like they woke up one day surrounded by Canada. If they don’t like the border management, move south.
@@harkmi3 100%. We do not have to make their life easier. They are American and they want to be. If they think this is inconvenient that is their problem. If they would like to block the rail way I’m sure we can cut northeast Americans off from Canadian water and see how that plays out. You’d see how fast their own country turns on them
@@harkmi3 How about instead of people picking up and moving down south, as if that’s just easy to do. We work things out so they can live life without dumb bureaucracy.
Its a huge pain but apparently not enough to just move somewhere else where you wouldn't have this problem. I blame the people who choose to live there.
What do YOU think should happen?
I'd Blame Canada!
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I live a couple hours from Warroad and have been to Angle Inlet a few times. They need a corridor it's a hassle.
Dual citizenship
A special car windshield or bumper sticker for a fly-by commute?
Could make this one free to the residents, bc they must have a HUGE gas bill... ?
Let Elon Musk build a Hyperloop Tunnel beneath the Lake
I’m Canadian and I’m frustrated also. It seems both our customs people feel they need to flex their muscles. Too bad common sense and common decency is no longer common. Last year I tried to drive to Arizona and US customs wouldn’t let me drive in. However I could ship my car to the US then I could fly in. Only government people could come up with a plan like that. I grew up 25 miles from the US border and we always used to be treated well by both sides. Unfortunately those days seem to be gone.
This is all for domestic population control by the US. Congress wants a National ID but dare not vote for it because of massive opposition to any National ID. Thus Congress changed the law after 9/11 requiring for the first time ever for Americans going to Canada to have a passport. Congress also passed the "Real ID Act" to force states to upgrade their driving licenses (Congress did the same in the 1980s forcing Pennslyvania and Vermont to issue photo driving licenses, those two states, to continue to get federal funds for highway construction aftr the mid 1980s, had to switch from paper licenses to photo licenses. Photo licenses are a pain, in the old days all you had to do was renew your license once a year and the state would mail you a new paper license. No need to go to the local DMV to get a photo taken for the license.
This push became worse after 9/11 and Canadians were just additional people harmed by this push. The main attack was on US Citizens.
I agree since 911 everyone is a terrorist at the boarder crossing before that it was really no big deal to cross over.
@@paulmentzer7658 Yes, as America becomes an authoritarian hybrid democracy, there is more and more emphasis on keeping Americans in the country. Especially professionals, like doctors. During the Trump years, a steel cable and posts were built along the Northwest border. That is the same start of the Berlin Wall.
People think that Trump wanted to build a wall to keep Mexicans out. I was erected to keep American in eventually. If Trump's coup had worked, I have no doubt that they would be going full speed ahead with walls on both borders. That's what authoritarian governments do. What do people do when their government becomes intolerable? They leave.
To those Trump lovers of the 2nd amendment, do you really think that an authoritarian government is going to let you keep your guns?
Buy the land. Make it part of USA.
@@colmcillegardner2144 Give all the land back to the natives and have the white folk and descendants of other immigrants pay ground rent to the natives.
In the 80's in college, we could drive into Canada with our driver's licenses. There was a checkpoint. It took slightly longer than a manned tollbooth when those existed. And Canadians could come the other way with their driver's licenses. Then 9/11 happened and we all went crazy. And for some reason, we have not only stayed crazy but upped the crazy. Between Canada and the US. Because...reasons.
Ah yes, I too wish for the good old days before 9-11 and Americans became full of fear that terrorists were going to invade at every border point. As John said we could cross the border both ways with just a driver's licence, no need for passports etc. We Canadians can still re-enter Canada with just our drivers licence or even our health card at land crossings (before Covid that is, now everything is nuts until the pandemic is behind us.) However, to get into the US we have to show our Passports or have a Nexus card but hey so do Americans so we don't feel too bad.
It was a better world back then ! The USA and Canada have been slowly turning communist ! Now two bozos are running our countries ,Biden and Trudeau ! My father left Yugoslavia for freedom and work. Now that it is Croatia I would be better off there !
I stay in Detroit and when I was like 7 my mother would go grocery shopping in Canada.. that was in the 90s just used a license
My family took a trip to Canada when I was in high school and all they need was my school ID back in 05
@John Crossman,, because Sleepy Joe now let's in every Tom, Dick and Harry on our Southern border, so of course Canada is concerned who enters their country from America .
I'm a Canadian who lives in Toronto. I feel genuinely sorry for our American friends and neighbors that have to go through this border nonsense at Angle Inlet! There's no way that American's should have to cross into Canada and go through customs several times a day just to travel to the rest of the U.S! It's lunacy! Our two countries should work together to create a solution here! I can pretty much guarantee that the majority of Canadian's would feel the same!
@amymason156Is it that the American government can't afford infrastructure or is it that they're too busy investing billions of dollars on food, shelter, and health insurance for the millions of illegal immigrants that live in America and wasting more billions of dollars playing "world police" over conflicts that are none of our business?
It wasn't Canada that tightened the borders after 9/11. You could drive to the US using a Canadian driver's license and Americans could enter Canada with a US driver's license before that change. So yeah, no thank you. Either you have reciprocal arrangements or you continue with what we have now.
I live in Buffalo and we used to have a family cottage in Fort Erie Ontario, 20 minutes away. Traffic was the only restriction. We sometimes crossed several times a day. The suggestion that local residents getting an ID makes the most sense. The locals are really the issue here. Let them pass freely. Tourists can go through the processes.
I remember freely crossing the Canadian border from Michigan (going into Sarnia, ON) even after the so-called official closure of the Canadian border. They gave folks a significant extension of the timeline for those closures because passports take a long time to process and we Michiganders were so used to being able to cross that border at will.
For most of the country, I'm sure it doesn't register. But coming from a place where I grew up thinking of Canada as just another part of "home" it was jarring and confusing to find ourselves being treated like enemies instead of neighbors.
@Dan Beech
My wife's family used to do that all the time when she visited her grandparents in El Paso. It was nothing for her grandmother to go to Juárez to pick something up.
@Dan Beech
Oh I agree!
Yeah, Buffalonians cross the border all the time without issue with an enhanced license. There's aslo a town called Port Roberts that's in the same situation as this Minnasotan town, and they did just fine until the pandemic closed the borders since they cross the border daily and basicallly live like they're a part of Vancouver..
Agree 💯
Do you remember the days when you could just drive over the border? I’m Canadian and I remember being able to just say, “yep going over for some shopping today” and the border patrol would just let you go and say have a nice day.
Moved to canada 2007 flew with no passport. Moving back home to US 2023 and need passport.
Yes! I live near the border to Ontario (Niagara falls) and as a teen would visit often. Maybe we had to show our license, but that was it. Took less than a minute to get through customs.
At least we have the memories of better times.
I remember doing this with B.C.
When I was young we use to ride our bikes across the bridge to Canada, we didn't know that it was another country. When I became d enough to drive all I needed was to tell customs where I was born, once in awhile I was asked to show my drivers license.
I haven't been to Canada since 9/11. Canada has beautiful white sandy beaches which I miss going to.
I still do that a couple times a week now Covid restrictions have relaxed. Showing my passport is a bit of a pain but it is what it is. I remember the old days too when you could enter without any documentation but those days are long gone. Mind you, we still have hour long line ups of American's waiting to come up here to Canada to fish every summer and our tourist industry nearly went broke when Covid closed the borders.
canadian border patrol will give you a remote boarder access pass that allows you to cross remote boarders like angle inlet for a year for 30 dollars. the only time you have to check into those remote boarders is if you buy something to claim. i have worked in that area a lot and used this system. it is great. more people need to know about that sustem
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@@nzsooz3884 liberal aren't you?
So you're saying pay for the privilege of free travel? Do those rail cars pay to cross our border freely every day?
Same in parts of the USA like Maine and Washington State.
@@mikeb8342 yes they are importing and exporting. i guarantee they paid big taxes on the property they have tracks on etc. there is nothing free. the 30 dollars is cheap to travel freely.
This is interesting and I live in the suburbs of Vancouver, and noticed how similar this situation is to Point Roberts, WA and them having to cross over into BC as the only land access to the rest of the States. Our provincial government made some special accommodations for Pt Roberts residents who often depend on BC for key infrastructure like hospitals and such so they could get limited access to Canada for that sort of stuff and not be completely cut off from the world.
The simplest solution seems like it would be to have places like that just join Canada, but then how would the people feel about that? They're Americans, not Canadians and many of them don't actually want that. If I were living in a Canadian town similarly isolated from the rest of Canada by some freak border nonsense, I wouldn't want to be turned into an American any more then the Americans who live under that nonsense would want to be forced to become Canadians.
I grew up in Surrey in the 60's. Vancouver was a long ways. I reckon now you can't tell where one city ends and the next begins
My family moved to Las Vegas NV. thats a whole other crazy time in my life
@@simoneconsciousobserver3105 "I reckon now you can't tell where one city ends and the next begins" pretty much, except the divides between Surrey and New West Minster and Richmond and Vancouver as there's the Fraser River dividing them, and similarly between North Van and Vancouver as we've got the Burrard Inlet doing the same.
But yeah, where water doesn't get in the way, all the cities have pretty much merged into one at this point. We've got a couple of rural areas amid all this still, due to the Agricultural Land Reserve, which preserves farmland on the outskirts of Surrey, and along the NE parts of Port Coquitlam and parts of Pitt Meadows.
Then last I heard, there's still the historic Avalon Dairy farm right in the middle of urban Vancouver! A strange sight that was when I first saw it riding my bike past, cow pastures in the middle of urban/suburban sprawl.
@@Seriously_Unserious Thanx!
When our family moved from Surrey to Las Vegas NV US in 1972, there were 200k population. After 30yrs I bailed, never to move back. There was just shy of 1.5 million ppl. I moved to BF Iowa, population of the town was about 700. Culture shock on many levels lol. I did love it for about 7 yrs and moved to Maui upon receiving SSDI as I have a spinal cord injury. Don't fret. I'm happy as can be not having schlep around so much lol.
I watch a YT channel, Howtohunt and Steve's in BC. You cannot beat the scenery in that part of the world!
Peace Love n Harmony One and All
@@simoneconsciousobserver3105 Hawaii does have beautiful scenery, but BC does put in a VERY strong case for beautiful scenery too.
Seems like dual citizenship might be an option?
There's also a town in Washington State called Point Roberts that can only be reached by entering Canada. It's attached to Canada and physically separated from the US. During covid when the Canadian border was closed, it created hardship for people on both sides of the border. Finally, the governor of Washington worked out a deal with Canadian authorities to allow Point Roberts citizens to cross into Canada without have to take a covid test and be quarantined.
I live in Vancouver and Point Roberts depends on Canadians for its income; not to mention the scores of islands between Washington and BC that straddle the border. This video took an entirely biased US take on things with no Canadians being interviewed. Do these same people think Mexican border towns should be treated with kid gloves by THEIR border protection? Terrible journalism.
@@ChrisHillslixer at least, us citizens can still travel easily to Canada ,I love the US this is my second home away from home ,all my kids were born here but most of the people here in the USA have no idea how hard and expensive is to get an US visa,Almost impossible and depending on the type of visa is a long long waiting list for a Mexican native.
@@ChrisHillslixer they cant interview Canadian citizens though. Canadians lost their minds the last few years. Forced vaccinations with expiremental vaccine, arresting citizens for not wearing masks while Alberta government officials dine on roof top no masks, proof of vaccines with 2 week quarentine for truck drivers going between US and Canada, arresting pastors for having services, taping off sections in stores so people dont buy non essential items beside the items they were in the store buying, curfews for walking dogs, forcing compelled speech or arrested for hate crime, freezing peoples bank accounts because they supported protests by liking Facebook post, taking protestors children from them and I can go on.
Just saying Canada can F off after all that.
The Mexico boarder is an issue here. However the majority of people agree the border needs fixed now. Its the government that destroyed the border security. We want it fixed.
In Canada you guys supported all that crazy stuff. You guys were competing with China and Australia at some points for worst place to live during covid. China is its own thing. Between you guys and Australia in first world countries it was a race to be the most repressive. Why would out citizens want people like that controlling their lives? Putting expiramental vaccines into children that had more risk of dying from the flu. Why should out citizens want to be part of that group think Canadians supported. I would pass on that too.
@@ChrisHillslixer No need to interview Canadians. Their government has created the problem, and seems disinclined to fix anything. About all that's left is to put up strong barriers to Canadians crossing into the US. And put up a customs booth plus full inspection for the train line, to be removed after Northwest Angle and Point Roberts access issues are resolved.
And people say Jay Inslee is the devil yet never mention he did this 🙄
I don't think this is a "blame Canada" situation here. It's more a "blame politicians" situation. As a Canadian, I can think of at least 5 viable solutions, but the US government / Minnesota government needs to work with Canadian / Ontario government. Situations like these don't have to exist
As a Minnesotan, a lot of us cherish the Angle if not for our awareness of their plight, at least for the quirk it gives to our state. If there were a way that Minnesota & Manitoba (the province they need to drive through) could resolve it, I'm sure at least Minnesotan politicians would try to come to some sort of resolve, but in truth as this is not just a border between two states, but two actual sovereign countries, I think it's more up to members of our national offices or bureaucrats to sort out a solution. For a couple hundred people, I don't think they would do it without there being a meaningful positive impact on their popularity.
Don't blame. Have a sit-down, hash it out.
@@KatInHerKat there should be exceptions for people who are actually residents of that area to able to freely travel thru that part of Canada, in order to work and live freely. Minnesotans are some of the nicest people you'll meet. There shouldn't be a problem.
Manitoba, not Ontario
@Arn Cla Indeed, both our countries, the USA and Canada have been invaded by people who have no ties to our European heritage, culture, or history, and yet the governments that are supposed to serve
The People are serving foreigners which have no business being here.
There is a tiny peninsula in British Columbia called Point Roberts, it is part of the U.S. It was the go to place to drink on a Sunday because drinking was prohibited on Sunday in Canada. The drinking law was changed in the 1980s and Point Roberts was no longer required by thirsty Canadians.
They made a video about it previously
Yes we went there! Super cool place
Now its the place to go for cheap gasoline.
Its also acrossing point for illegal immigrants my Japanese friend was a 1960 student refugee after fleeing Japanese mass murder of student who rose up. He live in New York for 30 yrs before leaving as he came just walked over in one small towns like these along the border.
I have family there. They too are frustrated and isolated during the Covid shut down.
As someone who grew up in Northern Ireland, took a bus through the Republic of Ireland then got on a boat to France without passing customs or showing a passport this seems crazy. How hard is it to issue the few dozen people of this tiny community a free travel document? I mean I now currently live in England but have a Republic of Ireland passport (which I got sent to me via Scotland) and nobody bats an eyelid.
Because it's Canada and the United States, everything has to be difficult. Which is annoying.
That won't work though. Unlike Europe, the US is not transit friendly. once you get to America, you would need your own car to get around. And generally speaking, Canadians can go to America with Visa on Arrival and vice versa. It's just because of COVID where people went crazy
Actually a pass called NEXUS is available that allows easier travel between our two countries for residents who cross the border frequently. When I was a kid we could cross to the US without any form of documentation in either direction. However, the border became more restricted over time mainly due to US problems with Mexican immigration issues that eventually lead to Canadians being required to show our ID from time to time when entering the US. Then as soon as 9/11 happened the American government became totally paranoid about cross border travel which had far reaching effects on our border communities. Now Americans are required to produce their passport to reenter the US after travel to Canada without a great deal of red tape and searches. So to be fair they decided Canadians had to show their passport as well. However, Canadians returning to Canada from the US do not have to produce their passport to reenter Canada just any government ID such as a Driver's license. Americans, strictly speaking, can also enter Canada by showing their driver's licences, however, because Americans have to show their American passport to renter the US they just show Canada Customs their passports as well. Crazy set up since in this pair of border towns both Canadians and Americans work in each other towns and in many cases American's have recreational homes in Canada so some of us cross the border daily and what was once a very a simple process has become exceedingly complex and tedious.
Brexit made a real mess of the Euro Anglo scenario .
@@saffierdragonbark8037 includeing the imperial and metric systems lol
We used to fish the Canadian side of Rainy Lake on the Ontario-Minnesota border. We stopped because every year it got harder and harder to cross the border. This only hurts the resort owners on both sides of the border. But of course when you live and/or vacation in flyover country, the policy makers for both our countries don’t care.
Spoiler Alert - CN rail has to call the us/canada border when approaching Warrod/Rainy River/Fort Frances/International Falls. They require clearance before continuing. They're stopped on average twice in that small window. Once for a face to face with the crew, and once for bridge clearance into internal falls.
... and Bill Gates Foundation happens to be the largest shareholder of that "Canadian Railway" that carries almost exclusively goods bound for the US midwest.
Dastardly Bill and his need for Coal, Gas and Gravel. Which are the top 3 commodities transported by CN Rail.
You mean International Falls, right?
Why not let drivers to that town call canadian boarder control and possibly have to turn on a tracker app for a few hours.
Yeah that guy had no idea what he was talking about
This was a very enlightening video! As a Minnesotan, I wondered what was going on for those people of Angle Inlet when the pandemic made the Canadian border completely shut down. I was mildly thinking that maybe the Lake of the Woods exclaves would become a part of Canada if that kept up.
I lived in Alberta Canada. I am a Canadian, While I lived there just going for Sunday drives through all the little back roads in the summer , it was amazing how many times I would be driving along and suddenly, I found I would be driving along and when I looked up I'd find was on an American dirt road and I had never crossed the border. To us we found it funny . It really is an un-defend border. It was normal to just end up somewhere in another Country This was common and our Southern neighbours found the same thing. We never crossed over with nefarious things in our heads or our cars. As far as I knew the people Here or there were al so alike it never made a difference . I am very happy with our neighbours. Yea U S A and yea Canada . We are so lucky to be so similar. I couldn't wish for greater friends Than USA and Canada I hope that never changes .
If it wasn't for Canada this American wouldn't have discovered two of his favorite things...Ice hockey and poutine
Ahhh Thanks friend!
I’m American, and I really think this is just border agents on both sides with little man syndrome. If the case were reversed, I could care less if Canadians were driving through the US just to get home/ go shopping etc. We should treat each other like the friends we are. Sometimes I wish we had open borders with our northern neighbor and shared the same currency.
@@GeeBee86 Unfortunately open border is not going to happen. Too many jobs would be lost. It's not only border customs agents but enormous administration of taxes and duties in commercial traffic and trade. It's a complicated and expensive monster. I crossed the border thousands of times in a commercial vehicle. Attitude of border agents on both sides is not much different than those in former Soviet Union block. Especially after 9/11. Once you cross the border you find out that ordinary people, businesses, chains are just the same. Abolish that border for good , like Berlin wall !!!
Aww that's sweet
Randomly came across this video and was LMAO over your driving skills. I grew up in MN and my folks go ice fishing on Lake of the Woods a lot every winter. Thanks for the video, I learned a lot about the state I lived in from birth to when I went off to college.
Glad you were able to learn something! After driving in Los Angeles for the past few years things get a little rusty when back in thee snow😂
The reason the train corridor is treated differently is that it's literally a railroaded path. A car driver can lie about where he's going. A train driver can't. The train isn't able to turn off the route and go on a scenic tour of Minnesota.
The issue was made worse because of what happened with Alaska during the pandemic. Canada originally made an exception to the border crossing ban for US citizens driving back and forth between Alaska and the rest of the US. But then several US citizens were cought using the lie "I'm going to Alaska" when they weren't, to bypass border restrictions. Unfortunately for the citizens of this place, the ban on using that exception affected them too even though the problem that caused it was the Alaska lie.
Simple Solution is to give the 119 people who lives in Angle Inlet Dual American and Canadian Citizenship..
@@scottymsu6063 that does not solve anything since they still have to cross the border.
@@scottymsu6063 agreed
@@scottymsu6063 - I doubt they would want dual citizenship because they would have to file & pay taxes in both countries.
I can see the alaska lie being done more on the west coast though. Minnesota is midwest, pretty much upper middle of the country. Would literally take days of driving. And that sucks that even happens...stupid lying people trying to cheat the law.
Back in 1997 I remember being able to cross the Detroit/Windsor border or the Port Huron / Sarnia border each with just my Michigan driver's license. One time there was a big traffic jam so they just opened the gates and let like 200 cars into the US from Canada without stopping anyone for questions.
Good times!!!
As a resident of Minnesota, I'm glad you showcased this. We MNs are hardy winter folk, and these are clearly the hardiest. Fishing and hospitality, and probably more driving on the winter lake than recommended (but smartly so, because we respect ice thickness yep yep). Smells like Minnesota.
Came here to say this 😂
As long as you’re white. Frak rural bigots.
Hardy/foolhardy
My Swedish and Norwegian grandparents left Rousseau County, Mn. and walked north to the Rainy River District to homestead. Apparently Mn. wasn't COLD ENOUGH for them.
i read this with a Minnesota accent and it was hilarious
You and the folks that you interviewed have made some very good points. As a Canadian, I'd also just to point out the same probable border issues if Canadians end up in the USA accidentally. It's a two way street. Unfortunately, I believe this video is not balanced in its presentation of the "facts". That being said, by and large, are two counties seem to have a fairly good relationship and hopefully that will continue.
Hopefully one day America will annex Western Canada, grant Quebec independence, and turn Ontario and Vancouver into puppet states. The Maritimes can go back to the Brit’s in exchange for some strategic islands in the Atlantic, Indian, and/or Pacific Oceans.
In the summer of 1980, I was stationed at USCG Station Niagara. It is located at the mouth of the Niagara River where it meets Lake Ontario. Halfway across the river is the international border. Niagara On The Lake in Ontario is directly opposite Station Niagara and the historic Old Fort Niagara. We would train with the Canadian Coast Guard and help each other and boaters in distress regardless of the dots on a map. I think our counties could and should work together to return to that point. Small towns that grew up on either side of the border should be able to visit their friends and family and not have to drive 30 miles out of the way to visit someone who lives two houses away. It’s a stupid process for two strong Allies and trading partners.
I think each nation has built enough trust in each other that we should remove the need for passports. Mexico should be part of that agreement, all 3 nations are part of NAFTA already and heavily rely on each other. They are the biggest trading partners. People don't realize how much trade goes on between nations, just for an example, people should do a web search and see how many cars are built in Mexico. We should considere a test for 1 year without passports and see how it works.
Actually we can and have at least that has been the case in my experience. Yes after 9/11 US customs made us jump through extra hoops to enter the Us when until then if Id was asked for a driver's licence would do. Then things deteriorated a little more after the US immigration services started requiring US citizens show their passports to reenter the US from Canada. I understand the panic and fear the attack had on the American psyche and we all have to live with it. Living on the border and crossing to the US on average twice a week before covid Crossing the border either direction is a little inconvenient but that's life.
I have seen many Americans making a big fuss about Canada "bullying those poor Americans" forgetting that crossing the border has never been a big deal for either of us until Covid arrived and the border's closed. What some American's are conveniently forgetting is that America also closed its borders to Canadians for the same reason the ban worked both ways. Once the total ban eased those individuals who were up to date on their vaccinations could enter again if they were free of Covid.
In fact a number of essential workers were never prevented from crossing the border. Nurses, long haul truckers and others were given some exemptions early on before the arrival of vaccines. Now the border is back open again the issue is moot. Every adult in Northwest Angle can and should have a NEXUS card that allows fast tracked crossing a system that has been available for decades.
are we allies really do you think they would help if someone invaded us I dont
@Chill Will we do not the point is they would not even offer.then beg us to help them if it was the other way around
@Chill Will there are plenty of americans on that day would think its a holiday.so we dont need the help
I was just going to mention Point Roberts, I have gone there many times. There is a city up in northern Canada next to a small town in Alaska, the American kids who go to a Canadian school couldn't cross the border because of covid. I thought our government should have made exceptions for them
Point Roberts is in Washington State, not Alaska! Kind of the same situation as this video. But The weather is more temperate and you can get there by boat most of the year (storms excluded).
@@ThePDXMike1 I live In British Columbia I know where Point Roberts is I've been there many times. I was making the point that our government should have cut some slack to Point Roberts and the American city up North
Hyder Alaska and Stewart BC.
@@ThePDXMike1 I don't think he was claiming that Point Roberts was in Alaska. I think he wanted to mention Point Roberts and then also mention another place in Alaska that has a similar border problem.
I was thinking of Point Robert's as well. Never been there myself, but an acquaintance from Vancouver mentioned it to me many years ago.
Many years ago, I was in Lansing Michigan watching my older son's school compete in a science olympiad. Since there was a long wait until the next set of tests I told my wife I was going to go get some beer. She said I should be back soon.
So I left Lansing, drove through Detroit, and went under the tunnel into Windsor. When entering Canada, the customs person asked how long I was going to stay in Canada and what was my purpose for travel. I told him I was going to be in Canada for about an or so I could get some beer at the "Beer Store" and then I asked him where it was. After getting directions, I drove over to the beer store and bought some cases of good Canadian beer and then went back over the border and drove back to Lansing just in time to continue watching my son's Science Olympiad team.
Hell, I preferred snow skiing in Canada as well instead of northern Michigan. My friend and I simply crossed over at Soo Saint Marie. Skiing was great there, there was cold beer available (some of which I never had in other parts of Canada), and of course we picked up cases of beer at the Beer Store for our return. When asked by American customs if we had any Canadian purchases to declare we said we had some cases of beer.
Too bad things can't get better. Loved Canadian beer though, so many different types of beer. Always enjoyed my trips in Canada.
Now things didn't always go well. When taking my wife and parents over to see Niagara Falls I was kicked out of Canada at Sarnia customs because of my wife's Japanese mother's passport (her mom didn't speak much English and didn't know what was going on) had a problem. Customs then told us we had to go back to the U.S. Of course on the return trip back to Port Huron, American customs wanted to know why I was returning back so early. I told it was nothing, but I was told to go into the office. I explained the problem with my wife's passport and I was told there was nothing wrong with it and that I should go back and tell Canadian customs just that. I said I wasn't going to do that, so the American customs guy call the Canadian customs and after a little bit of a shouting match on the phone, he hung up the phone and told me I could go back into Canada. I told him I didn't feel comfortable about that, but he gave me a pass to use the ramp to get back to Sarnia. I looked at the pass and it said it was for those that were being deported. I said what the heck is this and he said to use it so I didn't have go through American customs again. Once there we were taken into the Canadian customs office and a senior level agent took my wife's mother's passport, stamped it, and said "welcome to Canada". The rest of the trip was great. I always tell my friends about how I was kicked out of Canada and then kicked out of the US.
Canada has a piece of land with a similar problem: Campobello Island. It's part of NB, but its only land connection is a bridge to Maine. So residents have to drive through the US to get to the rest of Canada.
There are a few places similar to this on our border, not to mention an entire state. There's actually a library that straddles the border entirely in Quebec/Vermont. Good luck getting anything to change though. It's hard enough getting one government to listen, let alone two to listen then coordinate together.
As a kid who grew up in MN, I took vacations in Winnipeg with my parents, and even in College we would drive up because the drinking age was 18. We did this with nothing more than our DL and a 5 min chat w border officers. This is the way it should be today.
Illegally cross into Canada from the US? You'll probably be questioned briefly then sent back with a warning.
Illegally cross into the US from Canada? Arrested, flown to a detention center in another state, detained possibly for days or weeks before a judge decides to accept your plea that it was an accident.
and then us winnipegers go to mn and nd for cheaper booze once we hit 21
Yep, I grew up in northeast ND. Many trips to Winnipeg to watch the original Jets, even made it to a Grey Cup.
Picking strawberries in the summer and more trips to Fun Mountain.
The good old days.
It was, until the American government went nuts about border security after 9/11 then all bets were off. What has Canada to gain by creating a corridor for a couple of hundred people across the swamps of south eastern Mantioba? Would the US government be willing to pay our Border Services to patrol this corridor? I seriously doubt it. However, to ensure Canada's border integrity they would have to do this.
@louiciousthewerewolf4819 Yeah, it seems to be taking over cities everywhere . I know Calgary and Edmonton gave been hit hard too .
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The Bellingham office for US Social Security has 35,000 clients in BC alone.
I would think that residents of the Angle could be issued like a scan badge, kinda like the EZ Pass lane on a toll road, and be able to come and go as they please. Pretty minor investment, to boot.
They could also just become dual citizens and make the land Canadian. There would be no more border to cross and they can still be Americans living in the same homes they do now. Kind of solves all the problems. There's only 54 people living there now.
Oh, and an ez pass is good in theory, until American gun smugglers use them to bring illegal weapons into Canada.
A very similar thing happens in Washington state with a place called Point Roberts. Unless you take a boat, the only way you can enter Point Roberts is to exist the US then travel through Canada at the city of Tsawwassen to re-enter the US. During COVID, a emergency ferry service started between Point Roberts, WA and Bellingham, WA. There are many Canadians who live in Point Roberts and were not able to access their homes or vacation homes during this time.
One thing you didn't mention in the background history is that the French had built a small fort near where Angle Inlet townsite is now. IIRC the fort eventually was abandoned and the British got it, then ceded it to America. That's why they used it as one of the few known geographic points when making the new border. I believe Canada used it later as a border - that's why the west shore of the lake is in Manitoba, the east shore in Ontario!
As a Canadian I think that a travel corridor would make perfect sense. Doesn’t Alaska have the same problem?
And I don’t blame him for not wanting to change citizenship, I wouldn’t want to either.
Yes, Alaska has the same problem, and when we set up a travel corridor for Americans traveling through to Alaska they abused it and it got shut down.
@@IslandHermit And it was only a temporary good will gesture to deal with Covid. But as you say some abused it. Oh well.
Maybe they should build a train track up there, it couldn’t be abused, and they’re already is a Canadian train going through the US so it shouldn’t be a problem.
How about a 47.39m rail way line.. This would act like a travel corridor.
I'm surprised that America and Canada can't negotiate an agreement for freedom of travel between the two countries
The stringent border rules are wholly unnecessary.
9/11 impacts bro. Can't blame USA if they want stricter border controls
is the USA
Now you see what friends are for; A kick in the Ass😂😅😊
We had one until 9/11
The Canadian Island of Campobello faces the exact same issue, having to drive through the US to get to mainland Canada. Their solution during Covid is a year-round ferry.
As a Canadian, I can see a very simple and easy solution to this. Think of this as if running a business where the State and the Province have to abide by international treaties related to the border. Without re-opening the Treaty to redraw the border, a corridor can be defined/established within the Canadian lands, under a "Licencing Agreement" to provide US citizens with the "Right To Enter". Details of maintenance of the corridor and associated costs, and reciprocal termination rights can surely be negotiated. Problem Solved,,,,, but only if businessmen do the talking and Not politicians.
impossible maybe you didn't watch the video
it's geography they have to come to canada to do anything
Agree, and mostly because I know and have to vote for MN politicians. I think that Canada and MN need to work out a deal for this town in the corridor option or a crossing option and these only 122 people are given the right to get to their own state for any needs that may occur along with the fact that they do support Canada with their shopping and business they bring from themselves and their businesses as well. MN politicians can't even deal with Minneapolis, let alone other areas of the state.
Yeah I can see that happening soon. If the bureaucrats began working on this it will be easier to travel to Mars than crossing the border under a new treaty. Have you any idea how slowly competing bureaucracies operate? 😄
@@blackdandelion5549 well to be honest our local politicians have higher priorities like our schooling systems, probably the biggest topic that gets debated between our elected officials. Since the population up north from us is minuscule compared to issues with Minneapolis, I dont see this being a topic of conversation for a while because of the hurdles needed to work something out with another country
@@dem279 I understand your point and the idea of it AND I would challenge you and ask how much they actually get done in the Twin Cities? It's mostly bickering and actual change is rarely seen. If this gets put on the back burn it will simply stay there as Minneapolis will NEVER get things worked out from schooling to policing or defunding the Police or reinstating the Police to the amount of crime happening right now and the amount of shops leaving the cities. I loved Calhoun Square and the surrounding area 20 yrs ago, now. . . . lots of empty building and my favorite eats and shopping are gone. Stores on Lake St. in Minneapolis for 115yrs have decided to close their doors so I would say that it's a crap job with Minneapolis. St. Paul has also lost everything from large businesses to small places, but hey, we have a GIANT Scientology building now!!!
This is one of those things that if put on the back burner will stay there as Minneapolis takes constant work and is never settled.
Congrats on doing another great video on another exclave. It was fun having you come out to Point Roberts and I was thinking maybe you should do the trifeca of northern border exclaves. You could finish it off with a visit to Campobello Island which is our sister city in Canada. They have history and quirkiness like the Angle and the Point.
In 1965 I had a girlfriend that lived in Winnipeg, Canada. I live in Bloomington, Minnesota. So on Friday night I would jump in my car and drive up to Winnipeg and spend the weekend with her. I didn’t even get checked driving in or out of Canada. It was a open border!
As a Canadian that travels by land to the US at least twice a year for over a decade pre covid, the boarders between Canada and the US and the boarder patrol on both side are just a club of aholes power tripping so hard it is pathetic.
I have had fewer issues traveling to and from Europe then I have driving to the US.
The Canadian boarder service on the US boarder and in airports are the least Canadian people I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with.
The US guys are polite enough, but froggy.
As for what should happen, seriously there has to be a pass or something they can give the residents. Show the passport, verify the vehicle and let then go. Or just build an isolated road that only goes to the town. As for the whole school bus issue an isolated road makes more sense than expecting children to have their passports daily.
Yup. Europeans have a much better system. I live in Buffalo NY and travel across the border countless times in my life (I also have family up there). Since 9/11 the US customs side has become the worse upon re-entry... they are nasty and unpleasant to deal with, even for us US citizens. The Canadian side personnel, while not perfect, are 10 times better and polite. It used to be a simple task to cross with just a simple ID and now is a major headache (enhanced ID and/or passport required). We are neighbors and people with proper ID should be able to pass easily.
Borders, not boarders
*BORDER
Want some REAL fun? Try shipping goods across the border!!
I can bring Heroine in from Denmark easier than I can bring a synthesizer down from Calgary. Six months of sheer hell!!
I remember traveling to the falls etc. (both sides) when I was young (I'm 42 now).... we was crossing the bridge and the Canadian border patrol felt the need to target us, search everything (which we had to pack all back up), and restricted one of us from entering for no reason other than to be dicks. The dude literally had to watch his wife and kids cross the border without him because he didn't want to ruin their trip when they traveled all that way to take the kids there. lol So yeah the power tripping has went on forever but that's to be expected with many that is put into positions of "authority" tbh, shit goes straight to many peoples heads... especially when it comes to foreigners as it's easier to get away with. I'm certain Europe has many of these pricks as well as it seems to fall into much of human nature around the globe. Shit in some countries people "disappear" at borders so I guess we should count ourselves lucky.
We laugh about it now but was certainly hella disappointing at the time for sure.
I don't know how it is in Canada but properties can't be land locked here in the U.S., access has to be provided to every property be it traveling across another's property in a defined right of way or what not.
So I agree that a well defined right of way would be the simplest method of fixing the issue but we know how governments operate.... hard enough getting one to do the will of the people let alone getting two governments to easily help out the people. Pretty sad when all politicians have to do is open their mouths to say "sure" in making many lives easier eh... pff
My mother in law worked at the border in Trout River, NY. Her apartment was in both countries. Kitchen was in Canada and living room in the US.
Pay taxes in two countries???
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@@taramiller3236 canadian tax on food but Us tax on netflix lol
@@josephfalardeau7841 our wonderful governor Ron Desantis is going to make pet food tax free!!!!! Hurray 🇺🇲
@@taramiller3236 for true? did you pay tax on regular food ? (human food)
This is absolutely fascinating! Thank you for the superbly done video ^.^
That isn't the only surveying error they made. The other misaligned land survey blunder is in Point Roberts, Washington.
When drawing the line to show how many Canadian cities are below the NW Angle, that was an understatement. NW Angle is at 49 latitude while the highest point in Maine is 47.
You are correct. Most people see on flat maps that it appears that Washington State and Maine is farther north, But if you follow latitude lines. The Angle is farthest point north of the 48 states.
If they get a travel corridor, then these need to be applied to a few other locals, such as Point Roberts and a half dozen other cross border towns. It could work, but we could just buy the land and give everyone dual-citizenship. Or Canada annexes Minnesota. We’ll trade you Justin Bieber…. Actually you can keep him no matter what….
You know, pretty near the entire state of Washington used to be a part of British Columbia (the province is named after the Columbia River which is not even in BC anymore - how do you think BC got it's name?) so that would just be Canada taking back what was once ours! 😝😜 For that matter, the states of Maine and the Alaskan Panhandle were once parts of Canada too.
I'm from MN. . . .I decline your Justin Bieber, but I believe a travel corridor needs to happen no matter what. As a MN we love our fishing and if there are once in a lifetime fish in that town then I am inclined to visit myself. Please keep your Justin Bieber. We would rather have the fish.
Dual citizenship doesn't stop the problem of having to stop and register with customs/BP everytime. Plus the vaccine restrictions.
There is an Canadian Island next to Maine that is cut off from the rest of Canada similar to this. This sort of thing seems to happen all over the world and in places where the countries involved are hostile to each other.
We hope to go there too!
@@OfftheCuff_Series Yes, Campobello Island, I grew up there. Alcatraz.
Let’s switch
Interesting. There's an island that belongs to Canada near where I use to live that is basically cut off from the rest of Canada except for a ferry service. Campobello Island, New Brunswick is connected to Lubec, Maine by a bridge. During the hieght of the border closure, the residents of the island were allowed to cross to get medical help and groceries.
There is a difference, Campobello Island has customs and border patrol on both sides, proof of vaccination, etc. could be checked. This place has unmanned border check-in.
How about a specific dual citizenship for those that either live, work or do both there? I do like the idea of the tunnel better if I'm honest, it's just that one option is much cheaper. Another thing that comes to mind is with the corridor, is that part of the Canadian road systems ready to take on increased traffic? You know if they made a shortcut, those south of the lake would prefer to take it instead of having to drive around the lakes to get to Canada. Definitely an interesting discussion topic. I hope those folks can come to accept an arrangement soon.
As with Point Roberts and Campobello, it's likely many residents have dual citizenship already, and that's not actually the problem. The problem is the border crossing existing. There are two real solutions:
1. Point Roberts, Angle Inlet become part of Canada and Campobello becomes part of the US, and that's literately all that happens. Residency, property ownership, etc all stay the same, just one of the border crossings is removed. There's also various other land issues like the pointed out CN rail segment that could be evened out as well to make trade less obnoxious.
2. Have permanent ferry systems in place paid by the respective states, that operate twice daily. I'm not sure how well that would work for Angle Inlet since the water can freeze over, but the idea is the same. A 40 mile tunnel would also work, but there is no way for that expense to be justified as it would cost more than selling the land to Canada. At least with Point Roberts and Campobello, a ferry is possible because both WA and NB have ferry services already. Neither of those solve the problem of emergency services and would still have to rely on the neighboring community across the border.
To create a "dedicated transit corridor" just flips the problem in reverse, Ask Alaska how well that works (hint, all goods are shipped to Alaska via barge, and some by plane. Road is not used and Alaska rail is not connected to anything.) Realistically, the only solutions for Angle Inlet are extraordinarily expensive, and the most reasonable is "remove the border crossing"
To which the solution everyone would prefer, is to dial back the US-CANADA land border controls back to how they were before 9/11, or remove them entirely. The entire reason the border exists is because of the potential for taxes to not be paid on merchandise bought in the respective countries, and drugs/weapons being imported illegally. Yeah, so? That problem also exists between US states and Canadian provinces, and there's no land border crossings there either. There's a very simple technical solution for this, is that all passenger vehicles, trucks, rail vehicles, and so forth that cross state/provincial borders be equipped with GPS systems that report their locations in real time while they are outside their insured state, and if the vehicle does not arrive at it's destination, or return to it's insured state within the time allocated, then send the armed border people looking for it based on the last reported location. If we can do unmanned tollbooths, we can do unmanned border crossings.
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Canada would never give British Columbia the money to buy point Roberts. Either BC would have to raise the money itself or the feds would buy point Roberts and make it some kind of nightmarish federal territory.
The rich history and friendship between both our countries isint seen anywhere else on earth . We should be very proud to be such great neighbors
That great friendship is a souvenir. USA border patrols have made sure of that.
That isn't true, the bond between Australia and New Zealand is just as strong, if not stronger. There are agreements between both countries allowing citizens to travel and work in the other country without the need for a visa, also that agreement allows them to access the other countries medical system to receive Free healthcare. Americans think they are the only people living in a free country, I think they need to use google to find out that isn't the case, the education system there is obviously not teaching the history of other countries and what Americans think is patriotism is often seen as nationalism by other countries which is never good
@@lavalamp6410 We used to all cross our borders back and forth with nothing more than giving a name and where we were from. It was USA that decided that was not good enough and implemented the Passports only and no unchecked baggage rules in 2003. We Canadians are now treated like we all have Osama Bin Laden in our trunk. It was a wake up call for most Canadians, we found most Americans, even the ones in small places like the Angle Inlet as shown in this video, knew very little about us and found us to be an annoyance.
@@Singlepole I have lived in Australia for 31 years now after moving from New Zealand, I am almost 60 and have not noticed any differences between the two countries, I have had a few medical procedures including some surgery but have never paid a cent except for my taxes, I have never had medical insurance but the Australian health system treats me the same as if I was an Australian citizen. An Australian citizen would receive the same treatment in New Zealand which is how it is meant to be. Both countries have had a close relationship since colonial times and it was cemented during the Gallipoli campaign and other battles of World War 1 when both countries were part of the ANZAC alliance. The comment I responded to was just wrong, both my old and new homes are as close as twins despite being separated by 2000 KMs of ocean
@@lavalamp6410 I know very little about Australia/New Zealand borders, but I live on the Canada/USA border and have seen and felt big changes in the last 20 years.
Our family have had so many problems at the U S. border with the U.S. border guards that I could write a book about it & we were always respectful & polite with those border guards.
We lived in the U.S. for 17 years & then moved back to Canada. Two of our kids still lived in the U.S. & 2 in Ontario, Canada with us.
The worst thing is to live in Canada & still have an American Greencard.
The U.S. border control people in the 2008 to 2015 timeframe were mostly bullies, who treated us with absolute disrespect. It improved a great deal around 2016; but we are still always very wary & nervous when crossing into the U.S.
The border guards used to mix our youngest son up with an American criminal who had a similar name & height (our son is 6'5"). They would always sweep him away like a criminal. Our son is a dual citizen (American/Canadian). We obviously still travelled to the states to see our kids. The U.S. border guards often stopped us & took our car keys away. They wanted to interregate our son & I said politely that he was only 17 & still a minor & we would like to accompany him & I was told to keep my mouth shut & that we had zero rights in the U.S.
Once a guard told us that our son was not an American. I said "yes he is, as he was born in the U.S. & has all of his paperwork" and he replied "that doesn't make him an American" & I said "Sorry; but yes it does, look it up".
When we first came back to Canada we drove through a blizzard around Christmas time to visit our eldest son in Ohio. We were not aware that we had to bring our greencards back with us, since we lived in Canada & had our Canadian passports like everyone else crossing that day.
The U.S. border guard made us go inside. Our little old dog was left alone in the freezing car. When I told them that we were concerned that he would die, they told us "tough luck & he'll live, now get inside!".
We waited for an hour inside while the guard supposedly spoke to his boss. When he finally came out he yelled at me roughly to "come here", as he headed in another direction & I asked "where are we going" & he yelled at me that it was none of my business & that I better follow him. All this terrible behaviour in front of my wife & 2 kids (we have 4 kids in all). So we went to the other side of the road & then the guard said "I spoke to my boss & since you don't have your Greencards, you will have to either go back home & get them (1 1/2 hour drive one-way in a blizzard), or else pay us a U.S. $500 fine".
I said "first of all, you people know for a fact that we have Green cards & we all have valid passports. I'm sorry; but there is no way that we are going to pay U.S.$500." Then I asked "and do you mean to tell us that you are going to send my family & me back to the Toronto area for another 1 1/2 hour drive each way through a snowstorm, leaving our other son all alone on Christmas day in Ohio, when we have our passports & you are fully aware that we have Greencards?". He then ordered me to "go sit down & wait while I speak to my boss again". We waited for another 1/2 hour & he came out of the room and roughly said "come here & bring your family!" When we got into the elevator, he said "I couldn't tell you upstairs because we have too many cameras & microphones. You are lucky that my boss is in a good mood. If any of my collegues stop you and ask for your Greencard, tell them that you forgot them in your car. Now get out of here now!"... When we got back in our car, we were happy that our old dog had not died & then I said to my wife "even if somehow they had to do those things, which I highly doubt, their colleagues were certainly not going to ask us about the Greencards after he released us & why did he have to talk to us so rudely throughout like we are criminals?"
I once saw two women guards give a young Canadian couple hell & threatened to separate them because they were quietly laughing about something together & the guard told them to be quiet & asked the couple if this looked like a comedy shop?"... Seriously???
In about 2015, I needed to get a working Visa for a project that I was on, as I was working for a major well known international IT company & there was a Project that I needed to work on in the U.S.
Our company lawyers suggested that I should try go to the Detroit border crossing to interview for my Visa because the NY crossing officials were so brutal. So I made an appointment & I drove 3 hours to get there. When I arrived, 2 other guards told me that the officer that I had the appointment with decided to go home early. So I had to make a new appointment for the next day. I drove home 3 hours & the next day drove back to the Detroit border.
That next day, I waited for about 2 hours past the time of my appointment.
Our company lawyers had given me a very professional large booklet with all of the completed documents that I would need. The officer finally told me to come to his desk. He reviewed my paperwork & then asked "where is a copy of your pay slip"? I replied that I don't receive paychecks or slips, as I receive a statement online & it gets deposited directly into my checking account & that the lawyers included the official statement in the package booklet. He told me that he didn't believe me & that everybody gets pay checks and he told me to go back home & get one of those statements & get a lawyer or a bank manager to sign it & then return to him the next day with the signed copy. So after driving back & forth for several more hours (all wasting my work week), I returned the next day & he made me wait another couple of hours before approving my Visa. Talk about a ridiculous mean spirited process!
As I said at the beginning, I could write a a book about it because there are many more stories of us getting bullied & treated very badly by the U.S. border guards, including our son advising one guard that it was the 3rd time that he personally had investigated his situation & that guard was both embarrassed & totally unaware of that fact.
The irony is that when I went to turn in the Green card at the NY border crossing, because I was so tired of getting hassled partially because of it, the U.S. guards were trying to talk me out of it & were willing to give me another 1/2 year extension on the validity date because they kept telling me how "valuable" it was. I was so happy to get rid of the thing that day!!!
Another time, we were sitting in a very crowded NY border crossing room & the guards were talking very roughly & rudely to people from many different countries (Germany, England etc...), who were travelling from Canada to the U.S. & we said to each other, "imagine that this is the face of the U.S. to the world & for many of these people, it may well have been their first exposure to America."
As I said above, having gone through hell so many times crossing into the U.S., we found ourselves avoiding crossing into the U.S. for a long time. We never complained or spoke or wrote publicly about it because we were quite sure that they would investigate & that we would pay a severe price of some kind when crossing in the future. I am even wary about writing this now, although as I mentioned at the beginning, our experiences have been much better from about 2017 onwards, although we sure wouldn't want to test that assumption in any way, shape or form. We are still surprised & happy whenever we cross into the U.S. without getting hassled, bullied or harassed...
That's funny because I've had nothing but horrible situations with Canadian border guards. Talk about arrogance and ignorance. "We don't need or want you here." was what I was told
@@chaosXP3RT , I am surprised to hear that, as none of our family (grown kids & sister) nor our American friends who live in the U.S. have ever had a problem entering into Canada. I can't even imagine a trained Canadian border guard saying that they don't want you here, unless there were previous criminal or drug related issues...
Canada got better health care and probably more safe than US would ever will ,try not to go to US they're 3rd world people with Gucci belt.
That is so stupid and unnecessary. The US and Canada are basically the same country. I can understand being more strict with people who aren't from either country and traveling abroad but still. Absolutely ridiculous that they felt it was necessary to treat people like that.
If the usa clsoe rhe borders and barred trade with Canada that attuide would not last long.@@chaosXP3RT
This is almost the same situation as Point Roberts near Tsawwassen BC. They had a clause though for them that they were allow to cross the border unrestricted due to the fact they are waterlocked on all sides.
The US Canada Border issues have effected communities from the Pacific Ocean in the west to the Atlantic Ocean in the east since 9/11. It’s true, it would be difficult too return to pre 9/11 days, but that is exactly what needs to be done. It has cut a Library in half, roads down the middle, and separated nextdoor neighbors for far too long. Too me, it’s the least expensive and most logical thing to do.
no it is Easy to Return to pre 9/11. Frist start with a Big spanking of the FBI. they have become chickens and would do their Jobs unless its easy. Now come on Do you realy Need 19 cars 29 men to take care of a 75 year old man in poor shape. Do you need to kill a Women holding a Baby. the Problem is there is no account ably at the FBI. The FBI man who killed a lady holding a baby had nothing happen to him. I been told the FBI man in charge of the 29 men 19 cars got a raise
tear down the buildings and rebuild them on our own sides. fk america sick of canada being seen as america minor fk your entire nation.
Bruh the tipsy airplane 😂
lol thank you for noticing
Right?? That level of turbulence would be terrifying 😳
Yeah, that there was pretty cool.👍
I was just going to mention that plane... 😄 damn, that pilot has skills...
It's called a cross-wind.....
I have been going to the northwest angle for 20 years, have friends with cabins up there. The area is beautiful and has great people. We fish, icefish and snowmobile up there, visit the resorts for great food and drinks. When I first started going, you didn't need a passport, now you do. Checking in and out at the border is just part of the adventure. This was a very good video, nicely done. Just leave it the way it is, not everything needs to change because someone thinks so.
Thanks for the comment. Hope you enjoy your future trips to the angle. It really is a beautiful place
Haven't been up there in a while, but I will say it is more than worth it to go.
That is the point, Almost all the land north of the Angle is better fishing. But the Angle is Unique.
Didn't people that live there comment that this disrupts their lives? (going to school, funerals, etc.)
Maybe your using your passport is all a part of an adventure; do you think passports are the answer for the other comings and goings, too? 🤔
@@freeto9139 Passport requirement was caused by the US after 911, the US required passports to cross and Canada followed suit. Before that we all crossed the border with basic ID. If the US would drop the passport requirements, I'm pretty sure Canada would follow.
I live in Vancouver and don't forget about the other land-locked piece of USA - Point Roberts. Although surrounded by water on three sides you still have to come to Canada to get to this little piece south of the 49th by car, unless you have a boat then you can just sail to the marina from the rest of Washington State. People in Canada would always go to P.R. to get gas then come back.
@@ButterfatFarms I have many friends on those islands and it is of a broad sweeping consensus amongst all the islanders that they relish in the fact that there are NO bridges connecting them to the mainland.
@@ButterfatFarms The thing is, Point Roberts doesn't feel like any island at all - it just happens to be that little bit of land south of the 49th. All the Gulf Islanders are self sufficient in one way or the other....it's just the younger, more transient crowd that makes the changes in their lives by hopping about for the sake of convenience.
A simple solution would be a category of Canadian "permanent residence" granted to everyone living in Angle Inlet. Renewed every 10 years, and your primary residence must be at Angle Inlet. The annual fee charged to the state of Minnesota is tax revenue to the Canadian side for road maintenance ( since it seems the State of Minnesota should be plowing the ice roads). This way, no citizenship is given up or granted out of convenience, a basic tax pays for the service given, the folks of Angle Inlet can carry on with their lives, and the State of Minnesota need not spend money on infrastructure to service their own people. Same can be done for Point Roberts. Indeed, a deal could be made that the fees paid by the Canadian railway to the US, could go back to the Canadian side for the road maintenance.
Permanent residents get free health care. Not sure Minnesota would be willing to pay for that. And if they did, I think the population would go from 119 to thousands of people with chronic illnesses. I don't think this is a simple solution.
So a special condition would be that no programs offered to Canadian citizens would apply in this case. You could also state that anyone moving into the area would be treated as a seasonal worker if not related to the residents now living in the area.
Even better apply for dual citizenship, all the benefits and none of the cost, outside of any taxes for what ever you might have to pay
Simplest solution is to just redraw the border correctly. Think about it, my Yankee friends, REAL cradle-to-grave healthcare without going bankrupt (Canadians live many years longer than Americans) REAL beer....and the list goes on.
Do you actually think that something more complex than tying your shoes could be pulled off by politicians from two separate countries? Also, how many votes are involved? The few votes they have aren'
t going to change an election so they don't matter. No one cares about a little town that is only screwed because of incompetent surveyors. Sad but true.
Here in Tucson Arizona there was a survey error that zaggs every street going east-west from one north-south street. All streets are layed out from the state baseline latitude and longitude. I never played attention to it until I took a geology course. Most people would never even notice it.
Just head to Bisbee and forget all about it 🤣
There is actually a second town with the same problem in Vancouver, on the other side of the country on the west coast called "Pont Roberts". Point Roberts is a pene-exclave of the United States on the southernmost tip of the Tsawwassen peninsula, south of Vancouver, Canada. The area, which had a population of 1,191 at the 2020 census, is reached by land from the rest of the United States by traveling 25 mi through Canada.Wikipedia
Coordinates 48.9884° N, 123.0569° W. I have a friend who lives there. Thanks for the report, Special carve outs should be made for these people. Special passports or something.
Check out our video about point Roberts! We went last year
@@OfftheCuff_Series Sorry, didn't see that. I knew about this land in the Great Lakes but not Point Roberts until I had a friend move there. I think residents there shouldn't suffer the consequences of bad decisions but given special dispensation as their "own sovereignty" to travel back and forth.
@@OfftheCuff_Series Estcourt Station, Maine... there's a really good story about Canadian Michel Jalbert who was arrested while buying gas/petrol 30 ft across the border. It created an international incident.
point roberts is begging to be part of canada their economy is dependant on canada
Coming into this, I thought this meant like the American City controlled by Canada in a way where theres Canadian stores & Restaurants everywhere while American stuff that doesn't exist in Canada is rare and stuff like that because Canada somehow had power over the land despite it being part of the USA for some strange reason. Great video despite that not beung the case!
These anomalous places are fascinating! With only 119 people it would seem easy and inexpensive to just give everyone a transponder to keep in their car, like a Fast Pass, but for the border crossing… Or easier still, dual citizenships.
ooOoO the transponder option is smart
@@OfftheCuff_Series Yeah, like one of those "ankle" trackers the courts put on you....but permanent......Say, just imagine after a few years, a full cemetery full of "ankle"trackers.....ahahah, too funny....
meh... a tattoo on their forehead.
or easier still, 119 people move the fuck back home
@Matt Pipes
Exactly why not dual citizenship, then no problem.
As a very small child living in northern Minnesota, in a trailer house. I used to think that little spot jog was the end of our trailer house!! 😂🤣
Because of the very heavy Canadian influence, this is where the kindest, most hospitable Americans live.
😁😄😇🤗
Canadian ain't that great, what does that say about Americans generally?
They're Minnesota nice
Incredibly interesting. Thx. Watching from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another area I feel sorry for is Derby Line Vermont. The US-Canada border goes through the public library, a few homes and a business. There are other areas in Vermont where the border runs through homes or right next to it so the people own land in both the US and Canada.
I have been to that library/opera house! It is such a beautiful Victorian era building. It is also English/French bilingual.
That town should be bubbled and let anyone cross freely. By all means surround it on the _outside_ with checkpoints, but it shouldn't be illegal to just cross the street.
This was crazy. I didn't know that place existed, and I feel so sorry for them. The government needs to sort that out!
The TWO GovernmentS need to sort this out...
One Government.
Plural GovernmentS.
@Roger we are not the government. The electoral college proves that.
Don't have to give up your citizenship, I know LOTS and lots, who are dual, Canadian/US, even one who is Canada/US/UK..
A similar situation exists at Point Roberts, Washington. If you travel by land, you have to cross through British Columbia.
@@Ston3dNinja13 That's just 1/2 of the governments involved in this conundrum. You forgot about the Parliament in Ottawa. With Mr Blackface Emergencies Act Worships the CCP Trudeau in there right now, good luck getting anything sensible out of him! We Canadians can't and he depends on our votes to stay in office at the next election. Though I guess Dementia Biden isn't much of a treasure either. I guess we all got our problems in our nation's capitals.
I visited The Falls in June of 2020 and with the exception of one casino and a few souvenir stands on the New York side, the place was dead. Then ya looked across to the Ontario side and you felt like a kid having to stay in while everyone else played outside.
Point Roberts in Washington has exactly the same problem being disconnected to the US. The towns of Beebe/Derby Line VT and Stanstead Quebec have something similar that their town has been split in two since 9/11 completely forced the border and made the one town essentially split in half.
A travel corridor seems like a very simple fix for most of their issues.
Indeed
Take more Canadian land?
@@danallanson5990 5:55 Canada Train already allowed to do that and doesn't say take more US land.
@@danallanson5990 Canada doesn't need to give up land, just provide access, like we do for their railroad.
@@danallanson5990 CN Railway pays to maintain easements for their railroad here in the states. Why wouldn't the US pay to maintain a travel corridor easement too? You Canadians would get improved infrastructure at no cost to you!
There's also an American City in the NW that the American people had to cross Canada to get back to the States.
Caused a horrible conundrum during the pandemic shutdown, for years.
It's near/West of Blaine, WA.
Point Roberts! We have an episode about that place :)
@@OfftheCuff_Series It was in the News for awhile recently bc of Covid, vaxes, the Border lock down, etc.
Would you be so kind as to share the link w me?
Canadian here. This was very interesting. I’ve honestly never heard of this while my son has been taught about Points Roberts, Washington in high school but not “yet” this. I wonder why that is.
Point Roberts is also a very cool place. Definitely recommend a visit. Cool they’re teaching that at all in school!
I had never heard of this either, they never taught this kind of thing in high school
No one's going to mention those crazy crosswinds that plane is landing in at 2:30?
Seems to me, and I’m Canadian, that we simply go back to the 80’s system. Besides today with the tracking systems that could be used via license plates etc. this shouldn’t be so hard. There is a similar situation on the west coast I think.
Parts of the border that are close together e.g. Beebe Plain, Derby Lines/Stanstead and so on, should just be bubbled. Move the border further back on both sides and let people move freely within the town limits. It should not be a crime to cross a street.
There was a problem on the Alaska/BC border during COVID where kids on the American side, who would normally use the Canadian school because they didn't have one, were stuck at home learning remotely when said school had reopened and was running normally again. Similarly they couldn't see their friends, couldn't take part in school activities, and people on both sides were unable to get to work or purchase simple supplies.
There were no temporary exemptions or special cases of any kind. Border's the border, that's that.
Canada wants the land bc its valuable... that’s why they are making it so difficult... if the land was worthless they would do the passes.... if I was in the town I would just start collecting Canadians who set foot on the American land and use them as bargaining chips with the Canadian gov... albeit the Canadian gov has been off the rails for a while now 🙄🙄🙄 what else can u expect from a black face wearing, attention whore who has the power of being their leader?
The CN Rail line does cross the border, but the vast majority of the traffic on the line is bound for the USA. CN abandoned their line east out of Thunder Bay, and by agreement the small amount of traffic that needs to go east from Thunder Bay is handled by rival CP Rail on CN's behalf. The transcontinental main rail lines for both Canadian railway companies are north of the northern most point of NW Angle.
both Cn and Cp run a lot of trains through the Us because of lower cost and it is shorter. if Cp could ever fix its Chicago problem Cp would run a lot more throught the Us
I used to live 35 miles from Canada on lake Erie sometimes when you took a boat across there would be no personal in Customs you just had to sign in and supposedly check in on the way out. Those days are long gone with all the crazy restrictions today.
We still from Buffalo to Canada over Lake Erie all the time. Often to go up and eat at the Buffalo Canoe Club. If you let the coast guard know what you're doing and how many passengers via radio, we never have issues.
Sail
For a guy that has such distain for Canada, he sure has a lot of Canadian snow machines. Bombardier is a Canadian company.
Back in the 1980s, my dad and I were on the Niagara river when we came across another boat with it's motor out. They asked us for a tow. They were from Niagara falls New York. So we towed them back home. Keep in mind - with your motor out on the niagara river, if you don't get help, you go over Niagra Falls - so it was kinda important to rescue them timely.
Anyway, we towed them home and as we arrived, US Marshals showed up in a boat and gave my dad a large fine for breaching the US border, despite protests from the American boaters (who were really nice folk).
So the 'no exceptions' thing kinda goes both ways. Even when we saved the lives of a couple of Americans.
That's quite a story....common sense doesn't prevail, huh??? Thanks for helping people 🥰
What rights do they have to fine a Canadian ? I'm assuming this could just go unpaid unless one wants to travel over the border ?
I hope the American boaters paid the fine instead of your dad.
There's also a dispute about Frostbite Falls, Minnesota. The US claims it belongs to Canada, and Canada claims it belongs to the US.
Nice.
Noooo you have it!
There is a second bit of the US with the same issues south of Vancouver, in Point Roberts, WA. Can’t get in or out without crossing the lake, or going through Canada.
Sure is! We have a video about PR as well.
Please do not forget the Americans started all the boarder BS, I was raised in the 1000 island and did not even know where the boarder was , kids and boats , camping ect.
We all used to camp on castle/boat island and we went on a 1000 island cruise in 2019 to show my wife where I used to play as a teen and I was shocked when the cruise stop at the island , there had to be 15 armed boarder guards , what a waste of money ,
I thought it was called '1k Islands'
ok boomer
border etc
Actually, the boarder restrictions are Canadian, and their response to COVID.
@@slamdancer777 9 / 11 changed everything.
Excellent channel and excellent videos!! Super interesting! I live in Canada near Pt. Roberts, Washington and your video on that was outstanding. Same kind of land dispute here. Give em both to Canada lol 😝 just kidding. If Pt Roberts was run by Canada they would develop the crap out of it for real estate profits. That would be sad.
Crazy story right!? It’s fascinating to compare the two. Similar ideas but totally different situations
The plane landing looked scary as sh*t. It was the wobbly look to it.
We got the same situation back in Northern Maine and Quebec. There are exceptions for those areas around the country, i am sure of it.
A lot of similarities! We went there and did a story as well: ua-cam.com/video/h2-wShljTT4/v-deo.html
They'd better off as Canadian. But they want to be American, because they just can't face another Canadian Winter.
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Winters in Minnesota are very harsh too. As harsh as the city I live in which is Quebec City.
ha ha true. And they probably don't want their bank accounts frozen.
@@blueskys6265, then let’s hope the dickheads aren’t rioting in the streets of the capital and pissing on our war memorials.
@@garbageday587
*_"Winters in Minnesota are very harsh too."_*
Have you not heard the old joke? Some Soviet workers were putting an electrified, barbed wire fence along the Polish/Russian border, and came to a cottage right on top of it. So they asked the farmer what he wanted and he said _"Put us in Poland"._
You can guess the punchline when the Soviets asked why.
{:o:O:}
As a Canadian, I can say that these guys are the most Canadian people I've seen in a long time.
As a Canadian living 50 km northwest of angle inlet, I can tell you these people are all Minnesotans.
@@Al-vm7fx as a Canadian living 100' from US border in QC . i"ll beleave you before anyone else i've read so far ,
Except most of them seemed to hate Canadians, making them decidedly American.
The most Canadian are the Québécois as until the beginning 19th century only the french were called Canadian .
They could just make the machines quicker to use like just scanning a badge for residence. I mean it seems like there are a lot of potential solutions.
The problem didn`t happen until the American government become paranoid after 9-11. It wasn't Canada who put all the restrictions on cross border travel. However, when the US created restrictions on travel Canada tightened some of its rules as well. However while i must show my passport to enter the US when I come home all I have to show Canada Customs is a drivers licence or health card.
what an incredible piece u put there !! congrats !
Strange since for most of 2020 Americans were allowed to transverse through BC to get to Alaska.
That said yeah they need a corridor
There has never been a travel corridor to Alaska through BC. I think Canada immigration gave a conditional travel pass lasting a few days that had to be returned when leaving Canada back to US. No dawdling or sight seeing en-route was allowed. I don't know about testing.
During the Cold War, there were THREE travel corridors through East Germany connecting West Berlin to the rest of West Germany. They were only blocked once, but after the Berlin Airlift taught Stalin a lesson, they all remained open until Germany was reunited in 1990.
If travel corridors can work between bitter enemies, why not between “good neighbors?”
Because Berlin is a big city with lots of people while Angle Inlet is a teeny tiny little village. The incentive to endure the expense is higher when it's for more people.
@@dunbar9finger Too true. Even friends can fight as long as the cost of cooperating is too high per person affected,
While I think that the U.S. should invest in good and reasonable infrastructure, I also don’t think any citizen is entitled to good infrastructure to every conceivable remote location within their nation including that little section in northern Minnesota.
I think the argument for a passage similar to what the United States provides for the Canadian trains passing through the United States is the most reasonable solution.
I go to the Angle once a year for fishing. I love it there. It sucked not being able to drive there in 2020-2022. We had to take a boat across the lake to get there to fish. In 2022 there was horrible wather (record high water, 40mph winds) so we had to fly in. We only fish US waters.
We can drive again. We're all middle aged + men, so we really have no problems getting there. Heck, the RCMP border guard said 2 cases of beer wasn't enough for the 3 of us for 2 days (it was). The ones crossing back at Warroad were just as good, even asking who caught the big fish.
This year (2024) the biggest problem is the CBP Roam wasn't working, and we had to wait till later in the day to check back into the US, officially.
We fish at Angle Outopst and thank you Jason and Lisa for the great resort you run.
As a Dutchman it just feels stupid that you guys can't come to some solution. I just walked to the supermarket in Germany to get some cheap booze... And if I want i can drive/fly from here to Greece or Portugal without needing to show my ID card/passport. Just like crossing a state border in the US. I mean... You guys are so much closer to each other culturally so there must be some solution right?
That was the law prior to 9/11 you did not need a passport to go to Canada or the US. Unlike Europe which is looking to open up its borders, the US has wanted to close them down since at least Reagan.
Canada 🇨🇦 is anti- firearm and has much stricter drinking and driving laws!
The answer is EU. However Canada has no interest in becoming another US state well maybe Alberta does but thats Alberta.
We don’t want Americans. If they want to come here or travel through here it’s not going to be easy. Most Canadians support this. I’m sure it’s inconvenient but it’s also a simple fix if they want to become part of our country. This is them wanting to be American. So this is americas problem. Not ours.
@@daveerwin115 as an albertan you obviously know nothing about us. But good try
I saw that plane coming down dangerously. This is so similar to the problems in B.C, Point Robert's, across the Street & everything changes. Greed seems to be the problem & dual citizens or pass!
Check out the community of Akwesasne on the Canada-U.S. border for quite a unique situation. It's possible to travel from part of the Canadian side of this Mohawk Reserve (the part located in Snye, Quebec) into upstate New York (and the rest of the continental U.S.) with no border checks whatsoever. Those residents also drive through the U.S. to access the rest of Canada, but in that case they go through customs on the north shore of the St. Lawrence River after crossing the bridge into Cornwall, Ontario. (Nearby Cornwall Island, Ontario, is located within the river and forms part of the Reserve as well.) The pandemic never stopped this unique community from accessing both sides of the international border.
I was born around there and it’s an interesting place!
All the drugs, weapons and humans trafficked accross that area have been a continual smuggling nightmare for CBSA, RCMP and CSIS. Campobello Island would be a better example.
The Jay Treaty thanks you. .
2:30 duly noted, won't ever be flying into Angle Inlet
The United States should sell to Canada both Point Roberts and this place for one US dollar each.
The US citizens living there should be given by Canada Canadian citizenship so that they will have dual citizenship with both Canada and the US. This way they get to live where they want maintaining the lifestyle they want without losing their US citizenship. I don’t want to waste anymore of my US tax dollars on maintaining unnecessary border stations & I bet the Canadians feel the same way about their tax dollars!
Wow! So simple a solution-just can’t imagine ANYONE wouldn’t have come with that solution already 😬. Problem is that the US doesn’t recognize dual citizenship, ever. Also, you might find the Washingtonians in Point Roberts just a tad unwilling to have their properties sold out from under them, especially for $1.
What if those folks don't want to give up their American citizenship?
Border stations are GOVERNMENT JOBS. So now you got the government employees Union on your tail.
@@splitliving What do you mean the US doesn’t recognize dual citizenship? I have dual citizenship
@@totaldramaisland322 Biden wants to shut it down. I don't know if that means no more new ones, or something more.
Honestly, I feel like both the US and Canadian governments should agree to allow an international highway corridor that will be fenced in and monitored by electronics and surveillance camera systems, so US citizens can travel without being inconvenienced by border crossings.
So spend thousands of dollars for a hundred U.S citizens? If the U.S wants to cover it sure.
You should do a video about Campebello Island NB Canada hooked to the state of Maine by Bridge and accessible to Canada only by entering the US (STILL REQUIRING PASSPORT AND VACCINE) for anyone who lives on the island to drive through the US and back into Canada.
Remax freaking sucks.
There's a state of Maine on the west coast?
Great video. I never knew about this city on the map
Glad you enjoyed it!
There’s an interesting town where the international border runs through the library.
I'm Canadian and I would support dual citizenship for all permanent residents of the NW Angle (and Pt. Roberts WA). We should throw in provincial health insurance coverage, at least in emergency cases.
But they pay their taxes to the US?
Americans pay taxes, no matter where they live in the world to the united states.
dual citizenship does not prevent them from having to cress the boarder and presenting the passport of their choice. a few of the 119 ppl appear to hate having to stop at really what is they equivalent of a red light.
Storm in a Tea cup. USA drama queens.
I'm Canadian and why should my taxes pay for health care for any American? Health care is not cheap, that is why tax in Canada is higher than in America.
@@gaidin58 USA people already benefit by crossing over and buying there medication in Canada.
Please remember that as a Canadian, I don't agree with my local, provincial, or federal government on a lot of things. You may have some feelings about your own government.
My government does some really stupid shit, on all levels. That is not who all Canadians are, though, just who we got in our system. Hate the government, not the people. I'm just another version of you, on a side of an imaginary invisible line that someone screwed up. What a pain in the ass.
Canada is just enforcing its border laws as every country around the world enforces theirs. Do you think Americans are so exceptional that they deserve special treatment? Remember Canada loosened its border rules in August 2021 and the US didn’t follow suit until November of the same year. So this whole idea that we are treating them unfairly is ridiculous. No one is forcing these people to live there. It’s not like they woke up one day surrounded by Canada. If they don’t like the border management, move south.
God bless!
@@harkmi3 100%. We do not have to make their life easier. They are American and they want to be. If they think this is inconvenient that is their problem. If they would like to block the rail way I’m sure we can cut northeast Americans off from Canadian water and see how that plays out. You’d see how fast their own country turns on them
@@harkmi3 How about instead of people picking up and moving down south, as if that’s just easy to do. We work things out so they can live life without dumb bureaucracy.
We love our Canadian neighbors, just not Trudeau or Biden. Both asshats.
Its a huge pain but apparently not enough to just move somewhere else where you wouldn't have this problem. I blame the people who choose to live there.