This US City Could Be Sold To Canada
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Point Roberts may be sold to Canada. In fact, Point Roberts, WA is only part of the US due to a mapping error that occurred when America’s borders were being made. Now, the recent border closure has many residents trapped. Come with us as we explore this unique accident and the fascinating community that came from it.
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What do YOU think should happen?
Bye Felisha.... But really, this community needs help RN
Angle Inlet is in the same situation. Small piece of the U.S. surrounded on three sides by water and the fourth is Canada.
Canada should annex it. Turn the green lands into a park. Put in protects to make sure people's property taxes don't go up.
Washington State should run one of its ferries there until the border reopens.
Whatever the residents want, if they want to join Canada, then welcome! If not, well, then all the best in the US.
"Since I'm on camera, I never go across."
I feel that.
you know that guy knows he knows.
😂
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Growing up by the us/canada border we used to frequently cross the open border. I haven't done that since 9/11 though
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It’s not a question of whether or not Canadians like you, Covid is the reason why the border is closed.
@Ginger '- ')! What.
Actually.... Canada had the foresight to allow Americans to travel to Alaska by car (For essential travel, and are not allowed to use hotels, restaurants, etc) so its still puzzling why Canada has not made some exceptions for Point Roberts considering its only 30 min from US mainland......
@@Makoto778 yeah really good point man. I’m not really sure why. Probably because they assume that as soon as they allow people to make the trip, then others will start making their supply trips for things that are definetly not essential like grocery and gas
I think they're referring to the fact that Canada has enforced closing the border even when America was ready to reopen it.
@@RainAngel111 yea you’re right that’s what they’re saying but covid is the reason Canada does not want to reopen. The US is on another covid level and Canada doesn’t want to deal with that
eh! put those berries back, you didn't pay duties on that agricultural produce.
heheheheh
I guess you would have to regurgitate them on the border.
@@OfftheCuff_Series in Canada we laugh like this:
eheheheheh :)
Blackberries? They're a weed that takes over everything. A very tasty weed, very good for canning and juicing, but a weed none the less.
@@BlackEpyon Can you smoke it?
One of the things that has prevented Point Roberts from becoming Canadian is that the fishing rights in the water around it are what is valuable. While the US does not appear to highly value the land, it is the fishing rights they value. A deal could be proposed to sell the land to Canada and keep the fishing rights, however Canada had taken the position, that unless they end up with the fishing rights, they are quite prepared to keep the status quo.
How about shared fishing rights?
@Mr. Cub Fan 415 why should they have a slice?
I think competition between US and Canadian fisherman would get complicated with different fishing regulations between each country.
Canada should give them dual citizenships. Easier solution. Best of both worlds. Less problems.
Forget it ! No way will it ever become part of Canada.
Can you imagine:
Birth Certificate: Point Roberts, USA
Death Certificate: Point Roberts, Canada
Without ever leaving!
There used to be a time when that was quite common for border regions. They would change hands more than once in fact.
Born: Moscow, USSR
Die: Moscow, Russian Federation
There is this joke about a hungarian city called Ungvár (uzhgorod now).
-My grandmother was born in Hungary, went to school in Czechoslovakia, married in the Soviet Union and passed away in Ukraine.
-She liked to travel then?
-No, she never left her hometown of Ungvár!
that's true of a lot of places. You could be born in Tonj, Sudan, and die in Tonj, South Sudan, due to a new country forming there in 2011. You could be born in Moscow, Russian Empire, in Moscow, Soviet Union, due to a change in national government in 1922. There are actually a surprising number of ways that could happen once you think about it.
Usual thing in Europe. Person born in 1918. Split, Austro-Hungary, than royal Yugoslavia, later Italy, than fascist Croatia, than communist Yugoslavia, than democratic Croatia...
Wow, Auntie Pam gave up 85 people in the witness protection program in one fell swoop. Yikes!
😂
Very dumb
If there were actually anyone in the witness protection, Pam would not be let in on the secret.
Yes, I was going to say something about that too. Maybe Canada shouldn't buy Point Roberts. "Loose Lips Sink Ships".
Don't tell Tony Soprano.
Can't believe that the state of Washington just... Doesn't run ferries out to this town?
when driving is an option ferries are not worth the expense.
Why not build a bridge?
@@Bubbleguts1964 that would cost way to much money and the distance from the mainland is to much for it to be worth it.
Bruhden Egressive That makes sense, Thanks 👍
Whatcom County is running an emergency ferry service to Bellingham until the border reopens. There are two trips in both directions on Tuesdays and Fridays, weather permitting. Crossings take two hours.
If it isn't mentioned somewhere in these comments, geographically speaking, there is a similar situation with Minnesota's Northwest Angle, an area at the northernmost tip of Minnesota that is also surrounded by water and Canada.
Hot n heavy!
and vermont
“ we have had 80, 85 people here in witness protection” I don’t think you’re supposed to talk about it😂😂
there isn't a safer place in America. Think about it. If you're an assassin or the mob and you've been hired to murder someone in witness protection chances are you've already got a record and aren't allowed to cross the boarder, let alone doing it four times in a day. And even if you managed to somehow pull it off, all they need to do is go through the very short list of people who crossed the point roberts boarder that day to narrow down their suspects.
@@FablestoneSeries because assassins check in at border crossings that can be walked across.
@@MrBeard17 ignoring the fact that they would first need to cross into Canada. As someone who has walked across that border before its easier said than done.
@@FablestoneSeries Or boat across like the video makers did. Point being; if your there under witness protection, the secrecy of the location is whats protecting, not the border.
@@MrBeard17 That would make it even easier to track the person. No travel to or from Point Roberts, by land sea or air gets over looked. You might be successful in killing your target, but the chances of you getting away without getting caught are nearly zero, and if your job is to kill a witness you don't want to get caught and implicate your boss in the process. I used to know the border guards there pretty well. Nothing gets passed them. Its as secure as any prison.
Soon on another channel: how a youtuber causes a Corona outbreak in Point Roberts
High key
@Daniel Chang did he really
One Spanish national lied to South Australian CV contact tracing team member and sent 1.7 million people (an entire state) into a complete lockdown for 3 days until the lie was discovered. What is so amazing about a single youtuber causing an outbreak in a town of just over 1,000 people? There is 4 times that amount in quarantine in Adelaide, SA because on one git.
@@suelynch It was a joke.
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I love how all this planning between governments happens with a global pandemic, yet they can't figure out how to allow citizens like this to travel to their own country/state.
There are too few votes in Point Robert for those have the political power to make that happen.
You spelled PLANdemic wrong.
How much do you really, really "love" it? Tell us!
The whole point of the plan-demic was to stifle individuality and personal choices. Socialists believe that the 99% who are "beneath" them are too "uneducated" to make their own decisions.
@@jcjko5504 actually not really
It's an issue that should be specifically voted on in just the one community.
The one it impacts.
Let the people that live there choose.
Living in South Delta for 30 years I used to go to Point Roberts a couple times a month for mail and petrol. In the 70's and early 80s PR was a rocking place on Sundays when bars were closed in B.C. The Breakers used to have great live music and the The Reef tavern was a funky hangout. Every Sunday evening hundreds of hammered Canadians would head north to home through the border, but I don't recall there being a severe drunk driving problem. Loved Clark's store on the east side.
They should visit to northwest angle and make this a series
Just thinking the same thing when I ran across your post. Very similar.
I actually walked in here assuming that this was going to be the place they were speaking of. I was unaware of other places being like this and in a similar situation.
I think there was a news article about a border town in northwest Canada with a similar problem.
Add in Hyder in Alaska and it should be a nice trilogy. Technically you can get to Hyder without crossing the border, but the only road there goes through Canada.
I think there's a town in Maine cut in half by the border where the locals just ignore it.
As a former resident of Washington and current resident of BC, they need to start a ferry between Blaine and point Roberts. This will really help students, provide tourists and easy access to goods and services
Great idea!
Having watched the video, I did wonder why they have done that, having said that I don’t know what the journey time would be ?
Exactly!!! WA State wake ip, don’t forget your people!!!!
I can’t emphasize more how underrated this channel is
The documentary is like something I've seen on channels with over 100,000 subs.
Must've cost a lot of money to drive across the country and then charter a boat
While I've been to Pt. Robert's twice, I enjoyed meeting some folks through your excellent video.
Thanks from San Francisco.
Cool Restorations too!
@@CoolRestorations some sly self promotion
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@capichow what
Should of put a Canadian flag on top with more water on the sides.
@@capichow what does trump have to do with anything?
Just like a go chess piece. Very strategic Canada!
There is a similar situation with the border between Sweden and Finland. The town Haparanda-Tornio are two towns that essentially act as one town. Residents work on both sides of the border and the people in the town tend to speak both languages. They even share emergency services like police firetrucks ect. Before corona virus, the border was open and residents travelled freely to do grocery shopping, go to clubs, visit friends and family. Due to both countries being part of the EU, residents could work in both countries and both halves of the town and no border checkpoints. Now however... This is one town split in two.
Both are still first world problems in comparison to India and Bangladesh or probably a number of other places lol
@@ssssaa2 Yeah but we're not talking about Bangladesh or other places...
A federal town? Lol.
Which country are they leaning towards wanting to be part of?
@@emizerri Finland I'd imagine since it's subdivisions are more diverse
In the island of Ireland the international border between the Republic of Ireland and the UK can be crazy. There are people who have to cross the border to get from their house to their mailbox- their garage is on one side but their driveway crosses over the border when they take their car out. One side is in the European Union and the other is not.
Canadians: “The Vista”
Americans: “THE NO-TOUCH ZONE!”
Greetings from New Scotland!
This joke if people get it.
Let me guess your american
@@indian-tech-support let me guess, you're Scots
Yeah, they haven't gone through the same thing lately, pretty sure colonization was a hoot though.
Oh wait. You were with them, if you're Scots.
OOF and it's also cold AF all the time, as is Scotland. IT'S JUST LIKE IT but in a modern context it's probably not going to be as bloody a transition as nobody is disputing it we're trying to make things easier this time.
The amzazing hamzy 392 let me guess, someone failed geography. 😊 New Scotland = Nova Scotia in Latin. Nova Scotia is a province located on the Eastern Maritime coast of the Dominion of Canada.
This documentary was so so so well done. The fact that such a small channel is making this high of content and i’m here to see it in the early stages is incredible. As a videographer myself, this is the originality i love to see. Keep it up!
Thanks ConnorMakesMovies! Videographers unite!
“Colloquially known as "the Slash," this border vista is a 20-foot-wide (6.1 m) man-made cut-through of forestland maintained along areas of the border with dense forestation. There are many different sections of the vista, and the total length can vary depending on cycles of maintenance and upkeep, but an approximate length of 1,349 miles (2,171 km) has been reported by the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS).”
@Guitarzen Yh, they are known as Enclaves
This channel is so underrated, great quality videos that are actually interesting and give an inside look on less talked about places are hard to find elsewhere.
If Point Roberts joined Canada, the prices of all land would skyrocket.
same with the taxes and they will go up because it's near the water
@@ThePonycat pretty sure canada has lower taxes than the US
@@katiebaldwin5401 You guessed hella wrong. lmao
How do you think we pay for public healthcare and low priced universities and colleges? It's publicly funded, taxes in Canada are incredibly high.
The fuel price will skyrocket. With Canada's out rages fuel prices
@@katiebaldwin5401 pretty sure you have no idea what taxes are.
I never understood how come EU countries (which, not that long ago, were at war with each other, with so many different languages and cultures), managed to open fully their borders to each other creating the Schengen zone; while the US and Canada, which are culturally and linguistically much closer to each other, never created a Schengen-like zone...
Called California, there’s a shitload of Canadians there.
we have somethiing like it ... just the recent pandemic scare is forcing the closures although point richards is covid free vancouver is not ... so by staying out they avoid bringing it in to their region ... generally we see the border as a place to get cheap booze a place a to go bathroom get a snack perhaps and find out what roads are under construction ... more like a rest stop than anything else
911
@@stevebbuk Following your logic, a lot of US or Canadian places should have a border checkpoint to the rest of the country.
I don't need to google the Bataclan attacks. I am French myself and I live in Lithuania. Schengen is not the cause of the Bataclan attacks, but the laxist immigration policy of some countries (France, Belgium, Germany) for people NOT coming from the Schengen zone. Do not mix everything.
@@PolosLatinos But they're all linked. Give away your nationality and you will get illegal immigrants slipping through the borders. My country has left the EU but it's too late now: I don't want the same to happen to North America. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/02/majority-of-paris-attackers-used-migration-routes-to-enter-europ/
I'm from Washington and for about 11 years my family would vacation in the San Juans for a weekend to a week. I've never been to Point Roberts but every time I saw it on the map I just couldn't believe that we ever separated the land like that.
The editing, production, and everything else here is stunningly well done. Thanks UA-cam for doing your job.
I visited Point Roberts during a vacation trip to the great northwest. I was really surprised when buying gasoline in Point Roberts. Gasoline was sold by the liter, not gallon. As far as I know, it is the only city in America that sells gasoline by the liter.
They didn’t refuse your interview, just pushed you to PAO. Should have contacted PAO...you would have had good access to the issue.
Lol he’s a Hipster! they don’t really follow all the way through with solutions, but i guess he had good intentions tho 7/10
CBP press officers exist specifically to prevent access to issues. But yes a minute or two of their doubletalk on camera would have made an interesting addition to this piece.
As a Canadian i'd offer the town access to the schools and hospitals ...nobody should have to work that hard to get those essentials, especially during the pandemic.
Why?
Why should Canadians pay for Americans to enjoy their little paradise?
@@charlesharper2357 if that's the attitude then why should Americans continue to subsidize Canadians overall? You do realize how your economy works, no?
@@jpablo700
How exactly is Canada subsidized by the US?
Point Roberts sells gas to Canadians, who then drive on Canadian roads that they refused to pay taxes for.
Why should people in Point Roberts expect to send their kids to Canadian schools, if they don't pay Canadian education taxes?
@@charlesharper2357 1) it's super simple to research how integrated the Canadian economy is with the US, the surplus it enjoys and why trade reps pay special attention to the US economy.
2) Canadian tax evaders aren't part of the discussion, and frankly not a Pt Roberts issue.
3) Solutions! How much does it cost cost to send a child to public school in Canada? Compare that to the cost in the US. Workout a WA State voucher program to shift cost to Canadian enrollment and cover any gaps with other sources of funding or local sales taxes. I'm sure there's plenty of other solution candidates that could be worked out.
The point is stop being so divisive and hating on your neighbors. It's amazing what an ounce of pragmatism can do to find solutions. Especially with kids at stake.
@@jpablo700
The Point Roberts economy EXISTS due to resident's tax evasion...and depriving the BC government of taxes that should have been paid to the BC treasury.
They drive to and from Washington State on Canadian roads, yet don't pay a penny in maintenance.
The gas station in Point Roberts exists to sell gasoline to Canadians...without tax evading Canadians the gas station couldn't pay it's way.
They take advantage of subsidized Canadian medicine at Canadian pharmacies...yet don't pay a penny in Canadian taxes.
The liquor stores there sell cheap booze to Canadians...depriving the BC government of excise and liquor taxes.
Again...without Canadians going there to avoid BC taxes, those liquor stores wouldn't be in business.
I wonder how many properties on Point Roberts are owned by the guy who wants to sell Point Roberts to Canada. The value of his portfolio would explode, which would explain his non-answer to your direct question.
Americans: "Hmm Point Roberts has no case of Covid... Road Trip!!!"
Well, you cannot give them what you do not have, and that includes a virus that 96% of infectees have no symptoms from and which has a 99.9996% recovery rate . . . and why is half the people in this video wearing a mindless sheeple face diaper?
@@elwoodblues9613 I got sick with the virus in March, Spent a month in my bed and a couple of days in hospital. I used to be able to run for 30 minutes now i only can run about 2 minutes months later. So F U.
@@srzar - it's a matter of taking the precautions that you need to take, and not insisting that everyone else must take those same precautions otherwise they're murderers. If you do insist on the highest precautions for everyone, then you would have been a valuable asset to the Third Reich in the 1930s.
@@elwoodblues9613 Anyone who thinks they are entitled to put in danger lives of other people because of their idiosyncrasies have to do some soul searching, it does not matter how improbable because you will never know who would have a harder reaction to the virus and die from it. I got sick exactly because a Coworker who didn't take the all necessary precautions.
@@srzar Drugs used to fight HIV can weaken a person's immunity to Covid.
Was really surprised to click on this video and find that it was an on-the-ground documentary. Incredible quality work, great job. You earned a subscriber.
Thanks for taking the chance on us!
It's produced by Amazon isn't it?
@@quantumhelium No we just chose to stream it on Amazon. It's all made and funded by us Off the Cuf guys
I think there is something not special, but stupid... you have it.. but not yet. lets do it together and make some money I have many connections
Town: is safest from pandemic in the world
YTber from infected mainland US: goes there
2 weeks later...
virus: hello there
They were never sick
@@Matanumi You can have the virus be infections and not have symptoms for a week or so.
It's not a pandemic. If you are between the ages of 0-19 you are LITERALLY OVER 3X more likely to get stuck by lightning than to die from that bitch ass virus. You want to talk about a REAL pandemic? Go ahead and look at how widespread tuberculosis is and how little it's talked about.
@@WalrusWinking so older people are expendable now?
@@peneficial1643 Fucking hell, here's the full list
0-19 YEARS 0.00003%
20-49 YEARS 0.0002%
50-69 YEARS 0.005%
70+ YEARS 0.054%
source: cdc.gov
Ya get it yet? ALL VIRUSES ARE MORE DEADLY TO YOU IF YOU ARE OLDER. Fun Fact: The older you get the more likely you are to die from ANYTHING. Not just viruses. This virus is NO different than any others. The whole "But what about grandma" argument is fucking retarded, and the people who argue this point are just regurgitating what they've been told without questioning anything their overlords tell them. Old people can stay inside if they WANT but I will not have my right to assembly infringed upon I'll die for that right. I'm gonna have fun with my family on thanksgiving and the state isn't gonna tell me whether or not I can. Lock-downs are something the Nazis or Bolsheviks would implement, not the free world.
Canuck near Point Roberts: "The Vista"
Me after watching CGP Grey: "No no. Its the 'No Touching Zone'"
This kind of honor code system at the border would never fly at the US-Mexico border.
Because Canadians tend to go back to Canada Thats Why
@@slazeblaze319 Yes. I have Canadian relatives, they often cross the border to go shopping in Minnesota and cross back to Manitoba.
That's because there's a whole different continent under Mexico which tends to go through Mexico and into the U.S. Meanwhile Canada is remote with low populations
@Rumpel Felt shit they probably do. Their was a movie called the Cannibis Kid that was based on drug running from Canada to the USA
It is monitored though. Someone my husband works with was sent out to survey some land at a wild, unmanned border area. He was getting close to the border, but didn't cross it. Next thing he knew the US patrol were there, trying to talk to him and get him to cross over so they could arrest him, even though he never left Canada.
It surprises me that there isn't a ferry between Point Roberts and Blaine tbh. I can't imagine having to drive from border to border everyday omggg
Whatcom county has started a new ferry between mainland and Point Roberts since this was filmed. I don't remember if Lummi or Blaine are the connecting mainland points.
@@mythicnoetic Oh that's really cool, I didn't know about that!
About time! 👍
@@mythicnoetic yay! I moved near Seattle in 2019 and just found out Pt Roberts is a thing!
I understand your point - especially because there is already a major Ferry System & Ferries already running multiple trips per days between the Tsawwassen Ferry Terminal & Victoria (The Capital City of the Province of British Columbia) that sits in the Southern part of Vancouver Island.
Hahaha the people complain about everything but are still against the solution. Epic.
Yep
Which is becoming canadian. It's a tiny ass piece. Fuck the charm. The benefits far outweigh the advantages.
Why does there only have to be one solution? Things don’t have to be binary.
“ItS nOt vEry aMeriCan” cool, fine. Live without good access to schools, healthcare or reliable ferries and hope your ignorant patriotism makes up for that.
the claim of "54 40" was meant only for the area west of the Rocky Mountains. This was an area named the District of Columbia which was between Russian Alaska and Spanish California and was jointly occupied by Britain and the U.S. 54 degrees and 40 minutes latitude north was the southern point of Alaska and would have excluded British North America from any access to the Pacific. The 49th parallel boundary already existed, since 1818, from the Lake of the Woods to the Rocky Mountains.
I remember crossing the Ambassador Bridge into Detroit at 3 am one morning {before 9/11) with Tractor and an empty flat bed trailer, the guard looks up, looks at the trailer, and nods me to proceed. Not a word spoken between us. How times have changed!
Brian you’re right my Neice boyfriend then they just cross the border to Toronto and vice versa he used to say to the border guard l have one Canadian and two or more Americans then there we go
You can thank that to American imperialism and the military industrial complex.
Ya, that didn't exist before 2001.
Oh wait. your cribbing from Dwight Eisenhower more than 60 years ago and they just got around to it this century.@@alwaysright6358
@@alwaysright6358 well no, you can thank the terrorists who got into the US through Canada.
@@rorypaul153 The us dominance era has been the most prosperous, and the most politically divided, there are 2 sides on the coin
of politics
The bloke trying to sell Point Roberts to Canada looked a bit like George Bush sn.
I didn't think he looked dead at all !
Follow @maskingkills for good information and a follow-back
It’s a publicity stunt , he can’t do anything ,
or William H. Macy
I’m surprised there’s no ferry service from the mainland US! Wouldn’t that solve the problem of 4 border crossings a day?
Yes, but ferris cost money. Also, the population of Point Roberts is quite small, so it wouldn't be worth it. If they did make a ferry, it would have to be heavily subsidized by the government.
@@zidaryn you forget about possible tourism. But yeah, pretty much
I wonder if it’s not simply a matter of convenience. Sounds like they have an almost city right across the border and Vancouver is only 25 minutes away. I’m not sure what the closest WA city would be that would offer those amenities, but it is likely a much longer of a ferry ride. Boats aren’t very fast. And they are expensive.
I think easiest thing would be to just give special privileges to people with IDs from either side of the border and make crossing as easy as flashing an id and driving through.
It probably isn’t economically feasible.
Stingray 4540; you missed the entire point lol. The border is currently closed due to covid. It will NOT be permanently closed.
This whole situation feels like a side quest in an RPG where you decide the fate of the small town, depending on what faction you choose to join lol.
"When you call a George from Canada, George the Canadian"
Why don’t they adopt boats as part of local public transportation to the mainland?
Orca pods ... too much travel will damage the population
@@Lord_Foxy13 there's thousands of private yachts around there I doubt that's the reason
that would be pretty expensive
@@ozymandias3329 well as said there are thousands of private yachts around there, so money doesn't seem to be an issue… and it isn't so expensive, it costs probably less money than the city has already lost due do the isolation in the pandemic
Never knew the real estate prices was such a difference from one side of the border to the other. That was wild.
I was raised in Tsawwassen (Canada) for my entire childhood so I am intimately aware of this wonderful geographical anomaly.
Canada is absolutely right to keep the border closed due to Covid-19, but I feel for the people in Point Roberts for being isolated. The WA Governor needs to set up a better, more reliant ferry system.
EDIT: Oh hey, I also just realized at 12:22 you used some of my Time Lapse footage from one of my videos:
ua-cam.com/video/YwlNIRmzbns/v-deo.html
I'd appreciate the credit for that; I also credit you back with making a great video about Point Roberts! :)
Hey there! We will absolutely credit you for this! Thanks for watching!
@@jetstream6389 that's more in the Surrey/Langley area rather than Delta, but you are right, basically being an isolated island has made Point Robert's incredibly safe s far as Covid is concerned. Unfortunately virtually everything else has suffered - but if everyone locked down 100% in the spring like in other parts of the world, it would be much better right now.
It's not just Point Roberts. There's also some weirdness at the northern tip of Minnesota, where again you have to go through Canada to reach it. And at least one island which is much easier to reach by going through the other country.
You guys came from Minnesota to Point Roberts when have Angle Inlet...
I was thinking same thing, and Angle Inlet is even more isolated
Why does he want to sell sovereign US territory? Follow the MONEY.
Angle Inlet having the same problems LOL, point Roberts isn't the only one
Just what I was thinking. Angle inlet part of Minnesota, their from Minnesota. Guess they weren't taught geography in school to know their own state. I bet the guy pushing for Canada to buy is looking at getting his pockets full. Canada will surely get their money in taxes after if they was able to buy it. In time it will just run off the folks that have lived there. Money money money!!!
Came here to say exactly this lol kinda weird, especially when the one guy claims this is a unique situation when the state they came from has the same situation. Kind of ruined the video for me honestly.
If you find this interesting, look up Angle Inlet, Minnesota. Very similar situation and it's totally bizarre.
We have a video about Angle Inlet as well: ua-cam.com/video/tE-9YPxCBLo/v-deo.html
Canada: "We would like to buy Point Roberts."
America: "We would like to turn your leaf into 13 additional stars on our flag."
@@Cjnw Ten provinces and three territories for 13. Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut.
Oh, you mean North Montana.
We've got enough artic tundra and the Canadians are our friend's
pretty sure some people wouldn't like that since they don't allow Porto Rico cause it would be democratic not republican. (no one would be surprised to find that Canadians are closer to the left then the right)
@@speedy01247 haha, no kidding! We think you guys have two right wing parties
I used to swim at Centenial beach in tsawwassen when i was younger and the current carried me over the border, cant imagine what the protocol during covid would be!
Just go back. Nothing different.
Correction: The city a real estate broker would like Canada to buy.
Hi. Canadian here that lives near the border. We don't dislike Americans. 🇨🇦❤🇺🇸
@@briangonzales1602 Would be awkward for me to say I dislike Americans. I married one! 😁
I noticed that the Whatcom County government meeting was in January 2020 before COVID-19 was a concern, so it seems clear he mainly wanted Canadian real estate prices for Point Roberts properties.
@@plaidmoon5642 nothing wrong with that.
commission perhaps.
I think Point Roberts should become 100% Canadian and to allow it's people to finally live in peace.
No
No i want USA To keep Poiny Roberts like gibraltar
I've seen videos on this place before, but I like how yall get more personal
We're glad you like it
Going to Breakers in Point Roberts was mandatory as a young single man living in Vancouver back in the day. So many good times, of which at least half I don't remember!
A lot of people told us about Breakers when we visited. Sounded like the place to be back in the day!
I thought their biggest issue with being turned into Canada is that they would have to adopt to NOT wearing outdoor shoes indoors.
I’d say most of us don’t do that. Out of the people I know only one person does it. Unless it’s because you forgot your car keys or something.
yeah wearing outdoor shoes indoors is just something terrifying people do. (I am American, most people I know don't do it)
Just think of how dirty the floors will get, either swapping to indoor shoes/slippers or just going with sock is much cleaner.
Hahaha
does the world think we do that.
"when canadian's didn't like us" lmao i dont think Canada doesnt like you... lol
Some Canadians living in border towns are not very fond of Americans right now..
@@Sarena88ca Especially during this past summer, when many crossed to get to Alaska (whether that's why they crossed or not). Tons of people in BC would get incredibly mad if they saw American plates (or even Albertan plates for that matter)
@@gabrielseaborn257 I just love how they are all butt hurt, yet I see many Canadian license plates in Oregon. Every day I see a couple. just passin thru. Get over it already.
@@gabrielseaborn257 no one cares. Especially if they’re border towns that’s like me getting mad someone from Wisconsin is driving thru.
@@047Kenny Purely talking about during Covid, where the border should be closed. Outside of the pandemic nobody cares, I thought that was obvious.
You should make another place exactly like that - Angle Inlet.
Two similar situations I can think of: North West Angle MN is separated from the rest of the state by Lake of the Woods and the province of Manitoba. Campobello Island in the Canadian province of New Brunswick is connected to the State of Maine by a bridge, and residents have to drive 50km through the state to reach the Canadian mainland. You might do a video about one or both of those.
Great documentary... You forgot to ask what is the benefit for Canada and Canadians to buy the land?
Being Canadian? Showing compassion for our fellow human beings?
@@chrisscott6254 Canada is one of the most compassionate countries in the world. We receive thousands refugees from all over the planet who benefit from free health care, education, etc. But who pays for all this? All working Canadians and Canadian businesses who pay a mountain of taxes.
Canada can’t just keep giving out stuff to the world just because we are a compassionate country.
There has to be cost benefit analysis. Canada buys the land, what does it get in return to pay for all the expenses?
NON..BETTER KEEP THE SEPARATION LINES..CANADA,IS LARGER THAN THE USA.HAS ONLY 35/ 38 MILLION...IT WILL STOP THE CROSSING BY THE USA.TO CANADA.IMMAGINE IF CANADA HAD THE COVID-19 VIRUS,THERE WOULD BE ,I.C.E..POLICE WITH GUNS,AT THE US.BORDERS CHECK..US.CUSTOM ,IS ONE OF THE MOST BRUTAL ,HASLING EVERYONE,EVEN CANADIANS,BIG BELLY GIANTS,IT IS FUNNY,TO SEA THIS REVERSED..
Fernando Tortello But the US accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world and 40% of all people who travel outside their own countries for health care come to the US.
@Andy The Informer You spend more on both and get a worse result overall.
You guys are amazing the best raw documentary I have seen lately!
I am from Chicago and moved to Seattle about 5 years ago. I found out about point roberts not too long ago..and the situation, history, and culture of the town just fascinates me! This is the closest video I've ever seen about Point Roberts .Good job guys...I hate to see it sold to Canada, but frankly I think the people of point roberts should have a say on this
So happy that hear that :) We hope you enjoy the rest of our channel!
It would be odd if canada completely bought washington i dont know how i would feel.about it.
There is a similar scenario like this in Minnesota Manitoba border. The city is called the Northwest Angle.
Yep! We have a video about that area as well. Check it oot 🫣
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As soon as I saw the title, I thought, "Must be Point Roberts." I love that town
Very cool!
What about Nothwest Angle in northern Minnesota? It is completely surrounded by Canada and can only be entered through Canada by land, or by crossing Lake in the Woods
Check our channel, we just went there and released a video on it
I'm a Canadian living in Vancouver, and I've enjoyed going to Point Roberts as a tourist. It's a good place to go, to feel like you've been away, without it taking all day. I love it's quirkiness -- if that piece of land were part of Canada, or part of the US mainland, everything would be different. I appreciate that it exists "in between" so many things, and I hope residents will find a way to resolve outstanding issues without dissolving the community. Great video, in that it covered a lot of important parts of the issues facing Point Roberts. If you've never been there, it's amazing: you're in Canada...Canada...Canada...then all of a sudden you're in the heart of America! All the money, and cars, and brands you never see North of the border. And you can ride a bike around the whole thing. It's this little sampler-pack of America. You meet people with accents from all over the US, who are there for one reason or another. I've heard that it's home to many "mixed marriages" where a Canadian and an American get together, and it works for them to take up residence in this in-between nation. It's easy to point at the problems, but don't overlook the fact that Point Roberts provides solutions, too.
I thought Americans married Canadians in order to go North...
@@ohgosh5892 Sometimes they do, and sometimes it doesn't work out the way they hoped, and then they have to look for an alternative solution. So they live in the US, where the Canadian can't legally work, but he/she can drive from Point Roberts to Vancouver every day, to work legally in Canada. Yes, you would think if a Canadian marries an American, they are eligible for a Green Card.
@@morganahoff2242 complicated ...
I'm a Canadian. BC resident off and on over the last 40 years. I took a wrong turn on my way to the ferry terminal and found myself on the rd to Pt Roberts. Just prior to the check stop, I pulled a U turn as I realized my mistake. The authorities don't like that. An official car chased me down and pulled me over. I explained my mistake and received a somewhat stern talking to but nothing too bad. That was the 80s. Good thing it wasn't after 2001...God knows what might have happened to me as I suspiciously fled the border.
Lucky you were polite...I assume, otherwise you would be shot in the back for "resisting arrest". Ah the good old U.S.A. A'int she grand! !
Are you white? Nothing would have happened then. Lmao
Possibly creating a Visa such as Overseas American National with access to Canadian Healthcare and Welfare specifically for this area.
I live in Richmond, just below Vancouver. I've been to Point Roberts and it's a very nice place.
hey hey im also in richmond !
@@sld4ui932 nice to see another richmondite
@@peopleperson do you still go to school?
@@sld4ui932 no.
I only have one question. Can people get their amazon packages there?
@@UCiB88 good question. how about traders of stocks. TD ameritrade office
The answer is no since Canadians can't cross the border.
@@thierryfucus8697 TD Ameritrade doesn't like Canadians, notwithstanding what the "T" stands for.
They should have pickup locations right at the border with a window to pass the packages through.
Northwest Angle, MN is similar in being isolated by land from the continental US.
And they traveled from Minnesota lol
did this video even mention the NW Angle?
@@Forgan_Mreeman sure didn't. Someone brought up how it was the only feature like it in north america I think too. Lost quite a bit of credibility for me honestly.
@@TalkinTech it’s probably the difference in population and business. I’m from northern Minnesota originally, and there’s hardly anything that happens in the northwest angle. It would have been worth at least mentioning it in the video though. I’ve been to the northwest angle a few times. The border there is way different than this, even post 9/11. It’s just a shack-type building with a phone you use to contact customs. I haven’t been there since covid19 happened however. It might be a lot different now.
@@Pretermit_Sound that's fair...but like you said, an acknowledgement would have been nice. I'm also from NW Minnesota, so maybe it bothered me more than it should have haha
This isn't the only mapping error. The Northwest Angle in Minnesota is similar. It is the northernmost point in the continental US. Currently the only access is by air or across frozen Lake of the Woods.
The usa is not a continent
@@chocholo135 with "Continental US" he's referring to the US land other than Alaska and Hawaii
Canada and the US have many weird quirks and disagreements about territory. My proposal is the following:
Canada receives: Point Roberts, Northwest Angle
United States receives: Campobello Island, Machias Seal Island, Strait of Juan de Fuca, Beaufort Sea, Dixon Entrance.
Canada's view of the Northwest Passage being "internal waters" is accepted by the United States. However, the United States will be allowed free passage in exchange for assisting to enforce Canadian tariffs in the area.
Oh hey I live near there on Canada's side. I always wondered why there was a border that cut off that land from the main land.
Kidding ??
@GanNima MA no, the U.S border customs are way more secure we do most of the border work
I think everyone in corporate America knows exactly how this happened.
Boss: draw the line at the 49th parallel.
Young worker: that’s fine sir but you do realize there will be this small problem?
Boss: do you have problems with authority?
Young worker: 49th parallel it is sir!
We deal with a similar situation in Minnesota. We have the northwest angle. Although it’s not nearly as tricky a situation as point Roberts with the 3-sides of water.
Do you actually know the history of the 49th parallel ?
@@Pretermit_Sound Well, the Northwest Angle is also surrounded on three sides by water (Lake of the Woods).
What an amazing documentary about this US oddity outside of Vancouver, Canada. I've always been fascinated by this place and this video featured so much of it. Thank you!
We’re glad you enjoyed it :)
PR is a great place. You should visit.
Don't sell, keep it the same.
Bro, this felt like a vice documentary
"Nice" Vice
This is better.
Vice is garbage "journalism"
@@phaedrus000 yea but their editing and cinematography is the best imo
Vice has gone to shit. It used to be good and reported about interesting topics such as war in Afghanistan. Now it just reports BS.
If they had a doctor's office and a school, the town would really blossom, I think. But now, it's such a pain thin the butt to get there and back that the notion of dealing with any medical issues or educating your children is a huge turn off for anyone looking to settle there permanently.
All the Canadians with boats in Pt. Roberts for tax purposes:😰
No GST, but wait, there will be BH Tax coming to you soon!
Marina is over 75% empty now...and as a Canadian who used to keep boats there...the reason was a lack of moorage in BC
Ya we had our boat there, but we had to pull it before it got stuck
Why isn’t there any ferry service to this location? It’s only about 10 miles from closest point to closest point. There are ferry services all over that area that are much longer in distance, to various islands that don’t look like they have huge populations that would warrant such infrastructure or expense. Looks like there’s even one that crosses the border… twice! So why no service to this location? Not important enough?
Shouldn’t the Americans on the mainland help out their fellow Americans? It sounds like they’ve been abandoned
Choose to live in a remote area, expect remote access. They’re getting what they need to survive in the mean time.
I don't know, their behaviour seems about on par.
@@Yeager123123 "Choose to live in"
What a retarded notion.
@@Yeager123123 I was born in this city, therefor, I choose to live there. Logic.
@@korytoombs886 If you are over 18 and haven't hit the road... yeah sort of
The border closed because of COVID-19, we didn’t abandon the town
I had friends in Canada, outside of Vancouver. Their parents had a summer cottage there. I loved it. One time when we went up to Expo 86, just all off us young people, as they called us. stayed there for 2 nights, and all we had to do is cross the border into Tsawwassen, we were closer to Expo 86. All they did..Canadian CBP, was wave us in, and the USA control did the same. I wonder how it is now?.......Guess I'll see when I finish the rest of the video.
My boyfriend’s family owns a cabin in Point Roberts! We’re from Northern BC and We’ve vacationed there the last 3 years (not including this year). All of us are in love with it there. Personally I think it would be a shame to sell the Point to Canada. Vancouver is obsessed with expanding things so what’s to stop them from ruining the charm of Point Roberts with condos everywhere.
Could I buy or mortgage a property there and would it be a good investment?
@@IvanAkinfiev I'm here now. There is zero local economy. The border is closed. It's a sleepy beach town that does a good summer tourist trade when the border is open, but this isn't the kind of place that property values change much. The taxes, on the other hand, are due every 6 months, and the utility costs are due monthly. I'd only buy if you plan to live here (or spend a lot of time here).
American Samoa is still COVID-19-free too! Yup, we know how it feels
Yah, when your population is like 11 people, that's expected.
@@theemirofjaffa2266 oh, so you live in a 4' x 4' box with 11 people, tsk, tsk!
@@capsilog1 have you been to American Samoa? If you haven't shut up. I'm from there
@@rojahcroker You shut up! I am currently living here in American Samoa
I mean, North Dakota has like 10 people, and they still got obliterated by Covid, so it's not just that
I used to have a mailbox here while living in Downtown Vancouver. I think it's hard for people far away to understand just how little is in Point Roberts. There's like two or three restaurants, a gas station and a corner store... and 8 mail places. So with the border being closed, I can't think of any community that is in this situation. But most people I've talked to there have zero interest in being part of Canada (except when they sell their house). There has been some grumbling in the past with Point Roberts using a lot of Canadian resources, but overall it's pretty minor.
One more town with similar problem is Hyder Alaska next to Stewart B.C. The residents of Hyder pretty much go to Stewart for most of their shopping. Same area code as BC. Kids used to go to Stewart for school also. You can get Hyderised at the only bar in Hyder.
How does one get “Hyderised” 😂
I used to go to Point Roberts about 3 times a year before Covid hit.
One of the big perks for me was the international marketplace, because you could buy goods normally only available in the USA, such as certain candy bars and ice cream flavors. (as well as super sized goods)
Also yea. The gas is waaaay cheaper even with the conversion rates. I used to know people who would stockpile gas from Point Roberts to save money.
I miss Point Roberts. It's high on my list of places I would want to move to when I retire.
I like the lady who wants to buy a villa in Tuscany. She’s got the right idea.
I live in Burnaby, BC, a city borders city of Vancouver. I’ve been driven to that place, and being there was kinda subtle. I heard that there isn’t a secondary school or high school in point Roberts, which forced some family leaving there home. It’d be nice if the bc govt can make an agreement with wa govt to allow the residents to get access to schools and hospitals just across the border
Prior to the plague, most HS students took a school bus to Blaine and back daily. I also heard about a few students who attended school in Tsawwassen. Then when the border closed, one of them temporarily moved in with a friend in Canada!
Your idea makes too much sense, therefore, it likely won't happen.
In non-pandemic times, the kids in Pt. Roberts go to school in Blaine. They take a bus through Delta and over to White Rock, where they cross to Blaine.
Dual citizenship at this point sounds like the best compromise and solution
Think about it, before Covid even the average trip for groceries would be going over the border into Canada. Only big city around them is that.
Tbh joining BC will ruin the town but it will make the residents very wealthy when they sell and move somewhere else in Washington
No there is a grocery store there! I've been there many times
I really like this video. I think that it has a great presentation style, solid visuals, and feel that it was well made.
If the creators are reading this, thank you for making and sharing this!! :)
Hahahaha the creator didn't see or read your comment, my friend. Well, at least I read it and I like it😊
slurp
This was super interesting. I used to live in Seattle but to be honest, had no clue about Point Roberts!
I was born in Oregon but I grew up in Alaska and I was raised mostly by my mom whos Canadian and I moved to Oregon and was surprised by how much I don't belong here. And now my mother is wanting to move back to Canada and I'm thinking that I should go too and get Dual citizenship.
I think it should be a special economic zone with duty free allowances ... like I’ve seen on Europe, Asia, and Middle East.
There should free flow of both local US - Canadian citizens (ie. property owners).
Only non-local US/Canadian citizens/ foreign travellers should be screened at the border. It’s very easy to create a hologram NEXUS DECAL or Special I.D. Card.
Lmao, I love how she said that she never thought there would be a time that Canadians didn't like the people living on Point Roberts. I mean they don't not like you, they just don't want you on their side of a road.
And after the pandemic the canadians just spam I'm sorry to you
If they don't want you on their side of the road, it sounds like they don't like you.
@@stephenkammerling9479 Is it possible for people to NOT take things personally?
@@JakeLikesTech I try not to take everything personally. I like to say, I'm "easy," but I seem to be in a minority.
so, you went to a town without covid from mainland USA, without isolating, that doesn't have an accessible hospital or even pharmacy
We don’t know if they isolated before making the trip.
@@kaarenbock4803 the reason you isolate when you get to a place rather than before is because you can pick it up anywhere and be contagious for a number of days before any symptoms if you even get any. they could have gotten it from the gas station, the boat they chartered, the places they got food from, etc. and they weren't wearing masks when interacting with the town folk at all
@@no-rd6xq like your homemade non standardized "mask" is going to protect you from a .1 micron sized virus???
Don't be a sheep.
Ok
@@spuds6423 - no, but it can catch the droplets those viruses travel on.