Walk away from petrobond. My last word
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- This is the last video in this series on moving from Petrobond to green sand. I found a low-cost, easy solution to making green sand and I'm happy to share.
To paraphrase Senator Palpatine, "my journey towards the green side is now complete!"
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Great to see you finally put up a new video. If I wasn’t so lazy and busy all the time I’d def make the green sand but for me, petrobond just saves a lot of time 🤷🏻♂️great video my friend 👍🏻
Thanks bud.
Awesome, a new video! Keep them coming Perry. Personally I really like Petrobond. The mess is the biggest negative but it is manageable. The smell has become somewhat nostalgic as it reminds me of many hours of fun projects. My wife, however would disagree. As for the price, there's a website selling it for $155 shipped for 105 lbs which seems very fair. This is just my two cents. I found this video very informative, thank you.
Well, for a rich young man such as yourself, I suppose that price isn't an issue 😄 It would cost me $20 for 100lbs. Of course I had to drive down ant get the sand.
My wife absolutely hated the smell and smoke that would fill our garage, even with the doors open. 😄
I still have that bag you sent me. I promise I'll do something with it at some point, really I will.
Bentonite is used for sealing wells and petroleum storage tanks under ground
Bentonite is used by well drillers, it's used to seal up ponds and it's used in wine making.
Don;t forget cosmetics ;-)
@@swdweeb thats right except in cosmetics they sell it as a magical healing ultra special clay which must be made out of the skin sheddings of the goddess of beauty herself because it is. So. Goddam. Expensive.
The reason why it's so cheap in tractor supply stores is because it's used as a complements to feed livestock and not obly do they need a ton of it they also need it to be cheap, and selling it in huge bags helps with the price as well. so it's probably the cheapest source of bentonite
I watched the entire series. Can't beat the price. I will be trying this soon. I also just became you latest sub.😎⛏⛏🔥🔥
Woohoo, were you number 8500? Only took me 6 or 7 years to get here 😂😂
Yeah the price to make it is pretty compelling. I sell it too but most of the price is to cover shipping. www.plmfoundries.com/product-page/green-sand Better if you can make it on your own.
Moved on to some larger casting projects and I ran out of petrobond. Instead of selling a kidney for how much I need I came across this. Thank you!
I'm glad I could help save your kidney 😄😄
Good to see you’re alive and well. Great video!
You're too kind John. Not one of my favorite videos ;-)
Thank you, Perry, for pointing this series out to me. I am still using Petrobond, for now... It cost too much for me. $180 CDN$ for 30 lbs. Every time I make up a flask, I lose a cup of sand on the floor, up to my nose, and in my ears. It is far from cost-effective in my mind... I have tried to make some green sand, but it is too wet. I will dry it out a bit and see if I can do better next round. Thank you for the information and motivation... Living the dream in Atlantic Canada... Be well...
Ken, that's pretty incredible, over twice what you can purchase it for down here. I used to treat it as a precious resource as well, cleaning the floor beforehand so I could pick it up afterwards. Crazy.
Good luck with the green sand, especially if you can make it.
To pulverize the tidy cat litter (Bentonite) use a blender but, fill it just over (1/2") the blades and let run. It will push it like a liquid up the sides and down the center to blades. If you over fill it will just stagnate in blender and posibly burn out blender motor. About a minute and you have powder bentonite. I did this on 17 pounds of litter before I let the blender rest because it will get warm. Thanks SWDWEEB for the video. I made 5 gal bucket of Homedepot play sand (50Mesh) and Tidy Cat litter (50Mesh).
works great !
😁😁 I tried a thrift-store blender and burned the motor out trying that. Could have been the motor was already shot as I'm sure there was a reason it was in the thrift store
I have about 4 5 gal buckets of petrobond that I got from my boss. He bought it in a molding bench at a school auction. He never really used it so he gave me the sand. This was atleast 15 years ago. I always had a little trouble with the sand falling apart while molding. I just got back into casting and the sand defintely was even worse than before. I know you are supposed to add non detergent oil but I didnt have any so I used some chainsaw bar and chain oil. It seemed to work pretty well. Now my sand holds together much better
You might do a search on the use of isopropyl alcohol in addition to the oil. I read something somewhere that it helped activate the binder or something. I never added it to my petrobond just the non-detergent oil. The non-detergent oil was hard to find where I live, only one auto-parts store seemed to have have it and even then it was "let me go dig around out back and see if I can find it". The sand got blacker and blacker over time. Never stopped smoking or stinking though 😂😂
When working with dry bentonite or silica sand wear a face mask. You don't want to inhale the dust.
When I first had an interest in casting I tried kitty litter and it did work but it was a lot of work grinding it into a powder. Later I tried to get proper foundry bentonite. I went to a local foundry with a box of donuts. I then asked if I could get some bentonite. They said they din't have a container to put it in. I said, no problem, and went to the car and came back with a 5 gallon plastic pail. Ten minutes later I was driving away with a pail of bentonite that only cost me a box of donuts.
The foundry worker who got the bentonite put on a face mask respirator before he went to get the bentonite. Safety first.
You're absolutely correct. Thanks
Great video! Glad to see you back in the saddle again! And thanks for the shout out. American flags are complicated. Cheers from Juneau, Greg Chaney
Thanks Greg. Ever since the problem has been brought to light, I've had all sorts of other things that I need to fix pointed out to me. 😀 Back at from the southern States... but I guess they're all southern to you 😀
Thx again for all your effort and sharing your knowledge.😊😍
My pleasure!
Welcome back sir! Long time no see!
Thanks Marc, it has been a longtime. Hopefully that will change going forward.
Hello, very good videos frome spain, thanks...
Que tal caballero. Trabajé en madrid durante dos años 😄
Thank you soooo much for doing all the work for us amateurs! You definitely have a new subscriber. Can’t wait to watch more of your videos.
I'm glad you found them helpful. Thanks for letting me know.
I have seen recipes for green sand that include a small amount of sea coal (very fine bituminous coal; added to form a gas film between the metal & sand) and wood flour (improves water absorption). But the source also said those additives weren't as necessary for lower temperature metals such as aluminum.
I imagine there are some tweaks to the recipe that could make a difference, but unless you decide to try making some ridiculously detailed patterns, it may not be worth the effort to find that "perfect" greensand. Your castings are great, and it's always a thrill to see the improvements you make.
Yeah, I know @Luckygen1001 uses coal dust in his sand to improve its qualities.
I don't think @olfoundryman uses any additives in his sand, It seems to come right out of the ground with what he needs (short of some sifting I believe)
I've spent years of digging and research wondering if anyone had thoughts on using finer sand. As someone who's just recently thought petrobond might be the way to go (even though it's more expensive) I'm happy to see a more advanced version of the play sand compound! We have a few gravel and sand suppliers out here so I'll be calling places this week while the parts for my new forge ship to town! Thanks!
I’m pretty happy with it. I keep contemplating trying to add finer sand to it to get an even better finish but like a lot of things I haven’t gotten around to doing it 😄
My neighbors buddy has an abrasives company. I need to get this sand and do away with pretrobond. Thanks for saving us money. I can spend it on other casting stuff
THe3re ya go. I'm goad I helped you find an alternative. Good luck with it. I'm using mine again today
Petrobond was costing me a small fortune and the smoke is terrible. Glad I watched all three parts of your series on stopping your use of it. Almost stopped on #2
@@nicholasdukat2995 Glad you didnt too
The finish on those casts are awesome, I haven’t moved on from play sand yet but I’m really looking forward to it. This has really motivated me to find some foundry sand. Another great video 👍🏼
Thanks, you can stick with play sand that's what my first batch was made from. I still use it today. Just buy a 50 mesh screen and get rid of the big stuff. It takes a long time and you lose about half the volume during the sifting but play sand is cheap. Of course if you can find sand like I bought it saves a ton of time.
Oooh nice one mate! Love the extra fun driving around shots!
Thanks mate. Now you know the hick town I live in ;-)
Your stars should come down 7 lines instead of 6. Never would have noticed if you hadn't mentioned it and I looked at a picture!
Yep. I cant believe I did that.
Hey nice to see you again! 👍
I started out with just play sand "borrowed" from a playground down the street, then did the kitty litter in the blender trick and got very fine silica sand at a pet store of all places.
Moved on to powdered bentonite instead of the kitty litter, works great for me for about a year now, was thinking to switch to petrobond because that is what most metal casters on YT use.
Glad to see you experimenting and hear you thoughts on this, I will stay on the green side too 😋👊👍
Well, you know my opinion but I think you’d be disappointed with PB if you gave good green sand
Glad to see you back! This is a very good green sand formula. When I start casting, I will have a green sand mix similar to what yours is.
Thanks. Get to casting! 😃😃
Well I saw your videos about making greensand too late to help me getting started . I have already dropped over a hundred bucks on Petrobond and am still in the process of building my foundry.
I decided to go with ceramic wool insulation hardened with the hardener and coated with satinite. I’m building my own burner and it looks like mid summer I’ll be ready to fire it up.
Thanks for the info.
Well there is absolutely nothing wrong with learning on petrobond. It removes the variables of greensand moisture.
Glad you're back. You are correct, green sand doesn't stink up the place.
Thanks. Lets hope I stay back. 😀
@@swdweeb I was having withdrawals! Stay back will ya!? 😁😎
Great to see you, Sir! There seems to be a problem with me being notified of your video. But feels good to see ya! Take care!!
Great to be seen ;-) I've heard other channels having the same problem with being notified. I'm not alone.
Valuable information for the community. You're a legend. Thanks
Well, a legend in my own mind maybe 😆
Thanks
Just beginning the trip into casting. Found your videos and am going to begin the trip green. Was leaning that way anyhoo. Thanks for the information and tips on casting/mixing greensand... have about two hundred pounds of sandbox sand so will be dealing with that first. As far as screening things out I do pyrotechnics as a hobby so I have some really fine screens. Running the sand through a 50 mesh first and will go from there. Thanks again.
I found that 50 mesh gives a pretty nice finish. If you can go finer... and have the time ad energy to do it, go for it. I don't think you need to go much finer but I really don't know. Good luck with it and don't hesitate to reach out of you ever want to chat about stuff.
@@swdweeb well, got to lookin at the screens and have 40 and 60 mesh. Started on the 60...felt like I may not live long enough to finish. Also wanted to get enough sand together to do a pour. Went to the fourty. Got things mixed and here is my first trip into the craft. Looks like the 60 mesh is a better idea. Just need to get better set up to screen so it will be easier on the old bod. May have been a bit wet among other things. Have to figure out how to put a picture on here. Beginning to look like it’s not possible.
Yep, don’t know how to get a picture to you.
Good show! Glad to see you're healthy.
Thanks! ;-)
Hey Perry, I like the new open. And as always, another very informative video. I have some bentonite clay around. All I need is to find the sand. I also have a few pounds of petrobond that I’ve never used. I’ve been itching to to a casting project for some time.
Thanks bud. I figured it was time for the opener to reflect what I'm actually doing. We both need to get out and cast something.
Nice view of your town! No problem with the sound here, had to turn it down so I didn’t frighten Ralph!
Looks just like your town doesn't it 😄😄
@@swdweeb just closer to the ground!
Excellent video series. I am standing up a foundry capability on an AF base and using greensand makes things so much easier with safety and environmental! Thank you!
I'm glad it was helpful. Good luck with your foundry.
I had to crank my volume up all the way to hear what you were saying. I usually don't have to touch the settings.
Yeah, I know. I don't know what happened. I had so much trouble getting this thing done, I just couldn't bear to redo it again
Bentonite - if you have any local pottery shops always a good place to call and ask about it too. Used a local company for my fireclay and a few other things. Found they were much cheaper than buying most things online for this type of stuff, which I was surprised on.
Yeah, its amazing how sometimes online stuff can be so expensive. I saw the same things with online bentonite. It was crazy.
Another place to look or even ask questions would be a local foundry or maybe a local club that does foundry work... my city has a few... we even have a group of people that teach classes each week, just like pottery and other such hobbies... ask around the community, you might be surprised by what resources might be available in your local area.
Dang, sand is expensive out in CO! Here in MI I paid $35 for a ton, bagged in 100lb bags. Its 80 or 90 GFN and washed. Why did I buy a full ton?? Same price for one bag or the full ton, LOL. To be fair though, I bought it from a sand mining company. Here in MI we have plenty of sand (and sand dunes) along the coastline. I will have to look for the bentonite at farm stores ... never thought of that.
That’s pretty impressive. Of course it’d cost $20 a bag to have it shipped here 😄
Dude very nice video! I love the b-roll! Also, gee thanks for crushing my dreams, I still have a 5 gallon bucket of play sand and bag of kitty litter in my garage.
Ha! thanks bud. You can still use the play sand and kitty litter. I do, in fact I prepped a bunch of it (added water) Saturday afternoon just in case I made it out to cast something. Just get a sieve that is 50 mesh or finer.
What a great channel. Thanks Perry.
What would it cost to have you write a comment every day? 😀
Good information. Stay safe!
You too John.
Thanks for the links I’ve been planning on making my own casting sand I will definitely check them out. A side note I would love to see more videos of you Casten belt buckles and bells and what not. Thanx and God bless.
I'd love to see me making more videos of casting anything. 😁😁 Seriously, I want to do more bells and buckles as well. Thanks
Very informative. I'm just getting started in this and BigstackD sent me your way. I'm now subscribed and digging in to your content. Thanks for doing what you do!
Thanks for letting me know. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions
hey BigstackD sent me here as well. as a super noob i really appreciate all of your videos
Super noob? I think I started way below that 😂. Let me know if I can ever help
that silica sand mixed with water glass(sodium silicate) and CO2 will form into "sandstone".
Yep, someday I'm going to have to get a CO2 bottle so I can make more of it. I've only done it once
thanks i might give this a try
Good luck with it. I'm pretty happy with what I have
I must be blind.. Only thing I see is the stars section could be bigger and come down one more row and go over and touch the stripes to the right. I am sure I will slap myself when I find out what it is. :)
No, that's it. The main thing was that the stars should have come down to be seven stripes tall.
Petrobond is one of the worst things that the industry has ever seen. Ya, you can solve one molding but end up with paying a bunch of money to have even more problems and LUNG-MUNG forever!
I don't miss the mess, expense and smoke coating everything in my garage, including my lungs.
I was beginning to think you were lost
I was lost but now am found ;-) Hopefully I'll stay found.
Glad to see you stuck with it. 😊
When you asked for the bentonite, what did you call it? When I ask the local farm stores if they have bentonite or volclay they just look at me funny.
I asked for bentonite. That could be why the first place I checked just said no, they didnt know what it was. Plus the place I bought it, the first person I asked said he didn't think so but he at least called another person over to verify.
Maybe the trick is to ask the store manager.
good to see you back been a long time. and the flag stipes are off.
Well the field of stars should do to the seventh stripe and not the sixth.
As an Australian I would say that the star block looks too small, there should be 7 bars next to the stars and 6 below ??
That's it exactly, the field containing the stars should be seven stripes tall, not six.
Also the HxW proportions look wrong, they should be 1:1.9. And the canton (the blue area) is too narrow (should be 2/5 of width) and it shouldn't have a border.
Go to the local foundry and see what they use. Not Petrobond!
Good to see a new video! Hey isn't that the cattle branding logo on your sweater? Nive to see a little of the town you live! Looks kinda busy? Are there regulations in regard to COVID-19? I have never used petrobond, it's just too expensive for me. I do not make my sand myself, but buy it from an art shop. It's a very fine sand, almost like dust. In there is clay. I'm still looking for the best water ratio in it. So far I think it can catch all details, but I'm a little worried about the water evaporating and causing bubbles in my cast. If I mix it with less water it will be much more difficult to carve out channels for the metal to flow... I'm still in the experimental phase :) Great video again!
Yes, it is the brand that my wife developed. I love it.
I was shocked at how much traffic there was the day that I recorded that drive. It's normally not anywhere near that busy.
Our whole state is under a "stay-home" order. I haven't heard if the latest call from the president to go until April 30 is in effect here now as well. I assume it is or will be very soon.
I think most people would be surprised (well those that haven't used green sand) at how dry my sand is. The only time I've seen problems in my surface was when I mixed it too wet and I think the steam deformed the surface. I have yet to see my sand cause any sort of porosity.
I tried making my own greensand, starting with playsand, which was WAY to coarse. I got some sieves like you, but the time and effort was a LOT. Grinding up cat litter (they don't all use bentonite clay, BTW) took HOURS and made a huge mess. For all the time and effort the castings were mediocre. I'll stick with Petrobond. Yeah, it costs almost as much to ship it as the price for the Petrobond itself, but when compared to the 10 or so days trying to make greensand, it's well worth, in my opinion!! Time is money, right?
If I didn't have access to the sand and bentonite that I use, I'm not sure I'd make it either. I spent several hundred dollars getting muller made so that I can make it without a lot of effort on my part. I sell it but most of the cost to the buyer is in covering the shipping. I don't actually make all that much on the sand itself. www.plmfoundries.com/product-page/green-sand
Just a thought, couldn't you use plaster powder as the binder with sand blasting sand ?
Don't know about plaster powder. Would it harden after the water was applied? I've also been told, but have not tried it, that plaster reacts with things like aluminum and releases gas into the mold. Again, I've only been told this.
I've also been told that sand-blasting sand is not good sand for molds. I think it has to do with the shape of the sand granules. I've never tried to make it with sand-blasting media so I don't know.
Nice to see the outside view when you went sand hunting. Keep melting metal mate, that nasty bug won't be liking those temps. Stay safe.
Doing my best to. Keep your distance from the hobos on the tracks 😆
@@swdweeb Apply the brakes. Sound the horn. Close the eyes. Listen for the thud !! Works for me !!
@@volgnit Ha!!
good to see your face buddy. I don't agree with you closing statement. Don't waste your money on petrobond as a newbie it's very picky and living in cold areas of the world ugg but glad your still at it I need to do lots to be able to cast again and times are rough right now but anywho stay healthy!
Yeah, that's a good point, it doesn't like cold and it doesn't like hot. I forgot to mention those two things. Getting this video out was like trying to punch my way out of a rubber ball.
Certainly is a weird time for a lot of people. I'm lucky that my job hasn't changed a lot... at least for now
Wonder how the play sand would be if, after sifting out the rocks, it were run in a ball mill for a bit.....I'm thinking it's time to experiment
I expect it would be just fine, no pun intended. When you look at the grain size of petrobond it is very fine. My greensand is 80 mesh sand which is pretty fine but its not as fine as commercial petrobond which is typically around 130 mesh.
white stripes should go all the way to the blue field
The blue field is supposed to be seven stripes wide not six. But you're right, there isn't a box separating the stripes from the field of stars
Hello!
I live nearby the beach. Do you think I could just grab some of the white sand and filter it through a sieve? instead of buying playsand if I can't find any bentoniteas well.
I've heard that calcium (shells) may have adverse affects on the casting but I don't have any experience with it. You can always try given that the cost is so low. You're going to have to have some sort of binder, pure sand won't have the green strength you need for your mold to hold together. I've been told that ceramics supply houses are a source for bentonite as well. You can buy it in small/expensive quantities on places like Amazon as well.
Grren sand for me right from the start. Why ? # 1 silica sand cheap from hardware shop. #2 as a farmer bentonite cheap from farm supply shop, #3 being rural petrobond not accessible with in budget , # 4 petrobond is oil bound ? How safe is the burning oil fumes
Yeah I wish I'd made the switch sooner. Oh well, never too late to do the right thing 😀
i could hear 1 & 2 can't hear this final .
Not sure what to tell you. The audio isn't great, but I can clearly hear it when I play it on UA-cam.
Great video. Can you say generally how much use you get from a batch of green sand? Suppose you had a 25 lb batch of green sand. How many times can you reuse it making your flag casting, for example? I ask because after about fifteen pours reusing the same green sand on a project roughly the same size as yours, I'm starting to see small gas bubbles (from steam?) on the casting, and I wonder if I have burned out the clay and lost permeability in this batch. Thank you.
Hi Fred, I think you're spot on with clay burnout. As the clay burns out you probably need to use more water as a binder.
I haven't really kept track of how many pours I do before refreshing the clay. It depends on so much, how big the pattern is, how hot the metal is (aluminum versus bronze). I basically add a little when I start to notice the sand is getting weaker. I don't add a ton of clay either.
I typically mull about 35-50 lbs of sand at a time. I rarely use it all but I might as well do it all rather than guessing if I'll have enough. That said, I probably add about 1/3 - 1/2 cup to that much sand. If I were to guess we're pretty close on 15 pours, maybe a little less for me (10ish??)
Given you make your own greensand, you probably don't need this, but I do sell small quantities of bentonite www.plmfoundries.com/product-page/bentonite-refresh if you need it.
I followed the Bob Puhakka videos to John Campbell and I come to the conclusion that metal should be basically slowly(but not too slowly) injected from the bottom of the casting moulds. Do you think theres a way to do that at home?
Yes I do. ua-cam.com/video/hpwxnNlKP14/v-deo.html and any of my bell videos show what can be done in the home foundry.
In terms of filling slowly, it is really about keeping the sprue, runner and gates full and not sucking air into them or causing causing turbulence by metal splashing about in the mold. If I can find it, I have a video in which I look at a video from Andrew Martin to show what can happen.
Here is the link to that other video ua-cam.com/video/uTtstp_eDCI/v-deo.html
@@swdweeb I think your system is the best way of doing what Campbell says to do while still pouring. But in one video I saw of him at castcon he said that metal shouldnt be poured because it is damn hard to stop turbulence. I'm just wondering out loud, but I'm curious if theres a way to have a feeder on the bottom of a cast and push the metal in from the actual bottom of the mould rather then the side. I imagine it would be hard as hell in a home setting, but from what bob puhakka and Campbell says, professional foundries dont even do that level of sophistication. I dont want to make it sound like I'm critiquing you at all. Seems like your the only one ive come across that even goes to the extent of counter gravity. I'm wanting to get in to casting very much. Your videos are awesome.
Looks like your new sand is working pretty great! But for the price comparison, don't forget you're comparing making this yourself vs paying someone else to mull up the petrobond. I wonder what your supplier charges for just the PB binder vs bentonite.
Hey bud,
I wondered that as well, but given that I wasn't interested in going back to an oil-based product I never asked.
I guess one of the points (that I didnt state) of this is that I don't have a muller and I'm able to do it without paying someone to do that for me. Regardless, the cost to me is 1/10th of that of petrobond
@@swdweeb Fair enough. I guess a better question would have been, how much do they charge for premulled greensand? :)
I read that olivine green sand is a safer bet than silica. Any feedback on that?
I've read the same sort of things. I've never used or even touched olivine so I don't have any practical experience with it
Damn strips
I can't blame the stripes, they were there before I modeled the flag I did ;-)
👍
Thanks
Priceless information! The absolute most informative video I’ve seen on green sand. Have you considered using a moisture meter to determine best moisture content for casting?
Thank you. Yes I have but its didn't work. I bought one at a hardware store and it never registered the moisture content of the sand, took it back. In my opinion, our hands are the best measure of moisture. I can tell instantly if my sand is too dry or too wet.
Of course calibrating my brain to making my sand dryer is a constant struggle. I always think it should be moister than it needs to be. 😃
The audio level is really low but thank you for the video!
Yeah, I know. Sorry about that. I thought about re-recording but I spent 3 months trying to find the energy and enthusiasm to get this thing out.
No worries. I thought it was really interesting how you chased down that sand.
Ok what's wrong with the pattern? Unless I can't count?
Nothing wrong with hick towns, I grew up in NYC, and I'm glad I left.
If I think about it I'll let you know shortly. I don't want to spoil it for those that might actually see that part of the video and venture a guess ;-) Or... if you want to email me at swdweeb@gmail.com I'll tell you
Thank you!! I was literally in need of this exact video as I type this message. This exact thing.
Any scale for how much water per lb or something like that you use? People say “till 2 pieces break apart and nothing crumbles”. Is that the best way to go about it?
I find 2.5% to 2.75%% by weight to be the right amount for me. Your mileage may vary, and your sand composition may differ.
I go by dry enough to not stick to your hand when you squeeze a handful tightly. And wet enough to give it some strength. The best way to learn how wet you want it is to cast over and over with it. You soon learn. Mull it (stir, shovel over, etc,) then let it sit for several hours and mull it again. It will change when it sits. Moisture content is not super critical over a reasonable range.
Nice job, , glad you're back. Wish I were.
I tried to reply last night but it obviously didn't stick. I agree with what both Carl and Andy said before me. My sand is likely drier than you would expect. I do the clump test and as Andy said, you don't want it sticking to your hands, that's too wet. It is a matter of trial and error to get what is strong and not too wet. The more you play with it the better your touch will be able to tell you if it's right.
Good to see you too! I'm going to email you later this morning.
Carl Eric von Kleist, III Carl Eric von Kleist, III so about a cup every 20 pounds. I see.
Do u just have to dampen the sand once you let it sit after making it just right?
Need 7 short bands and 6 long. You have 6 to 7.
Yep, that's it exactly
He was right. We are always moving forward so ya the flag needs to go the other way
Well that depends on what side you're on. This flag could easily be moving from right to left. That isn't what he found that was wrong ;-)
Don’t touch your face.
some people never stop being a mother ;-)
your audio is too low.
I know