The character of Abed is especially genius, cause it allowed creators to effectively break the fourth wall without breaking the fourth wall, and remind the viewers of what they’re watching while still remaining in character
I love how the claymation episode is essentially two episodes in one. Try listening to it without looking at the screen, and it becomes a very different episode (which they even reference later on).
Rick and Morty very much runs on the fuel of "There are no stakes, nothing matters". RCT is all about the stakes, the episode basically sets the tone for the rest of the series.
The best thing about Community is how it uses pop culture references to make you feel cool and accepted for being "in" on them as part of that geeky culture (and there are such a wide range of pop culture references that there's something for everyone), unlike others show *cough cough* that just use geeky references as a lazy punchline to make fun of...
especially in the DnD episode, if you know what they're talking about you feel more immersed into the episode, as if you were playing an actual DnD session
It feels like this video was written by someone who just watched community for the first time cause they were instructed to make a video about community. In many ways community is more genius than Rick and Morty but this video seems like just a little superficial exploration of R&Ms less popular cousin. I think that exploring certain episodes in individual videos would be a much better approach. Also, as a little extra, I would like to point out how Community's cast is arguably the most talented sitcom cast ever, people like Donald Glover, Alison Brie, Gillian Jacobs, John Oliver, Ken Jeong...
I give wisecrack credit for doing one on community but i see what you mean. I felt the same way when they did that video on Spongebob. They used examples from season 4, while explaining harmons philosophy. There is also a lot more to explore, as you said, they could do a whole video on each episode alone and the ideas explored in each episode, as they did with rick and morty.
this is is about as deep as the philosophy for rick and mouth video goes, or any other of their “philosophy of xxxx” goes, they just dedicated more videos to rock and marty bc of the popularity at the time. i don’t understand how ur comparing tens of R&M videos to one community video lol. compare the first OG “philosophy of” videos if anything
We did Brecht's "Caucasian Chalk Circle" in college. At one point we scripted an actor calling out "Line" right near the middle point of the show. It was by far my favorite device we used to remind the audience that they're watching a play; everything got really tense in the room because the audience never once realized it was scripted. We let it stew for a while, definitely getting people to think things like "well, it's a college production, but still."
One of the most fascinating things about Community is the way in which the writers are able to simultaneous lampoon Sitcom genre tropes while also USING those very same tropes in its storytelling.
I watched Community for the first time about a month ago and I have been obsessed with it ever since. What’s weird is that me watching Community in the first place was to get away from what was happening to me irl - exams and stress. Meanwhile the show I was watching was telling me to focus on real life because if you distract and think you’re real life is a tv show, then your missing out on making your life more like this show - unpredictable and enjoyable.
It's true. I could never put in to words why I loved Community so much. I will rewatch this show forever. It subverts expectations and makes you think a little deeper into the characters. Everyone in this show is so fucked up but the show presents respects them and portray them as lovable people. Thank you for this video.
Pretty much every episode in season 1 & 2 has a moment like this too. Every episode makes a black joke, usually at Pierce's expense, but the Drow triggers everyone.
@Noé Lopez That's because some people - not just of color - actually are and actually can't. And some of those will be persistently loud about it until they've nagged their way into getting to hold a speech at the UN.
"Entertainment is that which reaffirms our values; art is that which challenges them." Folklore and stories have been how we make ourselves think forever.
I don't think I really agree. Community uses the language of TV genres and tropes to weave far more complicated stories and present something new, but it's never really criticizing them. It is a jubilation of this particular language. It assumes you already speak this language and then proceeds to use wordplay with it. Oh and Don Quijote is a much better parallel, in my opinion, Brecht was a bit of a bad choice.
I, too, thought that the Brecht reference was somewhat forced. Brecht's epic theater was developed after the great catastrophies of the 20th century and during an era of global ideological polarization. In his view, theater was meant to transform individuals and thus society and not merely to question established tropes and genre conventions.
@@styx9193 I think Wisecrack has really been half-assing it for a very long time now. They have a simple formula which they follow: take a product of pop culture, take a work of high art or a philosopher and jampack as many comparisons as possible whether they fit or not. But hey, people seem to enjoy it, so my complaints are probably exaggerated.
I think Community does have some criticisms. The expectation of Britta and Jeff being endgame or Annie vs Britta making some love triangle are things other sitcoms would pounce on, but Community stands out in its unique way of dealing with romantic relationships between characters. But the criticisms are subtle, and much like Abed, Community is also a celebration of media to a new level. It critcises recycling tropes at face value and instead twists tropes to make a newer level of humour and storytelling. It's a criticism of not using the medium to its fullest, and a celebration of what television and storytelling can be.
@@sethboyd4450 I also think it kind of critizised the happily ever after trope with its ending, but yeah, overall I don't think it's meant to critizise tropes
"There is skill to it. More importantly, it has to be joyful, effortless, fun. TV defeats its own purpose when it’s pushing an agenda, or trying to defeat other TV or being proud or ashamed of itself for existing. It’s TV. It’s comfort. It’s a friend you’ve known so well, and for so long you just let it be with you, and it needs to be okay for it to have a bad day or phone in a day, and it needs to be okay for it to get on a boat with Levar Burton and never come back. Because eventually, it all will." ~ Abed Nadir 613
I just finished the series last week. I was avoiding season six, since half the cast had left the show for different reasons, but then I realized the rest of the the show was just as good as the other seasons. The new characters made for good additions, the writing was excellent and I laughed just as much as I did with the other seasons (except season 4. Something was off with it. People could smell it...). So I moved on from the fact that Pierce, Troy and Shirley wouldn't be there anymore and went on with it. The end was heartwarming, a little bittersweet, but that's life. I feel like an orphan of the show. Now I can only hope for the movie. Fingers crossed 😁
As a guy with social anxiety and bad communication skills whose literally uses “copying other characters on tv” to navigate and further my social life cuz I don’t have much confidence in my own skills….. this hit deep and I really feel called out 😅
My favorite sight gag is still the Dean dressed as Amadeus saying, "the music program is Baroque!" Every. Time. I taught the Bottle Episode in English 9 for story structure and predicting outcomes. Works really well.
Just finished this show and absolutely loved it. Put it off for ages as I heard there was a massive drop in quality, tbh I enjoyed seasons 4-6 just as much as 2-3, the whole thing is amazing.
Using multiple examples from the gas leak year while ostensibly talking about the intent of Dan Harmon's writing felt like The Philosophy of Dark Souls all over again. #StreetsBehind
My thoughts, exactly. Yet again, they did a real sloppy job here. Like they have a schedule for the uploads, but not much else. And dark souls - I can understand, they were desperate to get into a hype train, but community? Half a decade old show that's kinda popular on Netflix? I don't see anything justifying this. And the whole episode feels like it was made out of really stretched out thoughts they just had to fill with references from the show.
@@MrFiremagnet Totally. Even the basic premise of Community as Brecht's Epic Theatre is pretty weak. Community is absolutely fueled by emotionality; I've rewatched it plenty of times just to feel close to the characters again, as if they were friends. And it's not just a personal thing, I've talked to other people about this. That's a radically different experience than Brecht's distancing effect. Which is a bit of a shame, because there's tons of things to say about Community. But whatevs, let's hope the next one's better.
Thank you so much for pointing out those awful examples of season 4... I feel that Community deserves a deeper introspection and analysis and even though I liked this video, I still feel that the intellectual grandeur of this series hasn't been really well explained
I was totally noticing that too. Far too many S4 clips when discussing Harmon. I did wonder if it's because Harmon's writing tends to have longer set ups and is therefore harder to use as bite size clips, where as s4's writing is basically made for canned laugher. Buuuut I've seen other video essayists use other clips so I doubt that's the reason.
Wow! I would have assumed it was a reference to how we all return to comfortable situations rather than taking risks and seeking quality relationships. Our communication in society is very challenged by our casual references to stories that we all understand differently. This just got even more meta for me!
Quick note, the Jeff/Annie thing was mainly fueled by online fandom reactions to the couple. It wasn't necessarily as deep as subverting expectations vis-a-vis Jeff/Britta but still meaningful since it involved a kind of collaboration with the viewer. There's a lovely quote of Dan during a panel saying the way the story progresses and the way fans react to something organically creates relationships.
Community was referenced in their video on references in rick and morty. There was also a video by leo ashe on the philosophy of community with wisecrack hastagged, that could be it.
I just finished watching community for the first time a couple of weeks ago so I happy you made this video now. The show was awesome, totally different for other sitcoms making it a great change of pace. Liked you analysis of Abed, him and Troy were what made the show great. I really missed their silly ending when Troy left.
Someone obviously never watched Carl Sagan hosting Cosmos, or Bill Nye, or Sesame Street, or Mr Roger's Neighborhood, or even more modern stuff like Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell or other bits of science fiction intended to make the audience introspective.
It's sobering when you realize you miss the Community characters and wish they were still with you or that you could be with them and though you might like to think of yourself as a Jeff or a Brita, you're actually closer to Abed.
The point of a clip show has always been for the cast and crew to pretty much have a week off, by using clips of old shows instead of filming a whole new episode. Community not only subverted the clip show trope by "remembering" things that hadn't happened on the show, but they used their clip show to run around the studio lot filming ENTIRELY NEW 20 second scenes, changing sets and costumes to reflect all the old episodes. The Community clip show is the hardest they worked in the entire run, and the joy they express when talking about that episode is everything you need to know about why I love this show so damned much.
I feel that ‘Spaced’ explored themes in a similar way. Using pop culture references and cliches coupled to a meta commentary exploring it relationship with those references. As well as being hilarious.
Thanks for bringing up my man Bertolt. My German highschool was named after him and you basically couldn't not see some of his work. Gets quite meta which is refreshing when coming from the classical drama.
I mean if it helps, that’s not really a writer-intended plot point that’s being foretold, it was just the actress exiting. The only thing that’s being “spoiled” is the disappointment you may feel when her character doesn’t come back. if you know about community then you won’t get far without hearing about all the struggles it had as it replaced its cast, been almost cancelled, and had transformed by the end
Community is by far one of my favorite shows, and I feel that it's completely underrated since the only people I meet who has even seen an episode, are online, in person it's like nobody has ever heard of the show
This show was so good it makes other shows less funny. When you see what's possible, everything else starts to look lazy. The fake clip show is my shining example. A traditionally cheap and easy episode to produce becomes one of the hardest most expensive. It's genius.
So... Abed is the archetype for Wanda in WandaVision. If Abed is in grief and has the power of Wanda Maximoff, I can totally seem him hold an entire town stranded and play out TV plots in his mind.
I was very lucky to watch the show since day 1 and I've loved it since. And now I'm very happy that one my favorite UA-cam channels finaly made video about it. 6 seasons and a movie!
The concept that some of life's problems comes from internalizing the media we consume would explain why people who watch a lot of reality TV tend to have an impossible time navigating simple disagreements without dragging it out for weeks on end.
I’m giving a second view on the show because the first time i’ve get stucked in season 4, somehow i felt like the group changed from comunity to scooby doo, now i will go to all the seasons
Community and Parks and Rec got me through college. It was amazing to watch them every Thursday on NBC. Watching season 2 of Community with my friends back then was such a great experience. Sadly the show died after Season 3. Even when Dan Harmon came back from the grave...
Community was the show that I was waiting for my entire life without ever knowing it. It gave me the ability to recognize the mediocrity that exists in "hit shows." My media consumption has been impacted ever since.
Are we all a bit like abed? Yes. Our whole cultere seems to digress into tiktok and instagram making memes (references, and references on refeerences) the only way we communicate...
That's literally how all language works. Words, and their meanings, don't exist "in nature". Certain sounds or squiggly lines become words when they are given a meaning by reference, or in relation, to an existing word or concept. Even the original words, in the oldest languages, were just abstract references to things that did exist "in nature" (i.e. trees, animals, water, a day, coldness, pain, etc.) References on references on references isn't a digression; it's what's been growing and evolving human communication since the dawn of civilisation.
I personally love when people try to act like the media they consume doesn't affect who they are as people when you can actively see how it shapes them kind of how people say one thing but then do something totally different
My buddy and I often cite Community, not only for its witty humor, but its meta commentary. He and I believe Abed is actually the show "community" in human or cast form. While we haven't delved this deep into it, I feel we hit the same nerve you guys over at Wise Crack have. I feel like you guys hit this one right on the head.
I remember as child that many of the other children would _coincidentally_ also sometimes act like people on TV: E.g. Girls and boys sought partners, everyone was spreading rumours about who was together (or more like who they *thought* were together), and the people who were the best at using violence were seen as cool and got respect for it. I must have assumed all along that this tendency just dissappeared as people grew older but now I see that some people continue to do it even though they are _ADULTS_ even though others depend on them being in touch with reality.
Community was undeaniably streets ahead. Chang my mind.
QUIT REPLACING WORDS WITH CHANG.
@@EmpireSun No need to get so changry.
Stop trying to make streets ahead a thing.
@@-Plot- If you don't think it's a thing, you're streets behind.
I dean think I will
6 seasons and a movie
Don't worry, it's coming. We're not in the darkest timeline.
6 seasons and a movie
6 seasons and a movie!
Six seasons, a movie and an ad for terrible earbuds!
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The character of Abed is especially genius, cause it allowed creators to effectively break the fourth wall without breaking the fourth wall, and remind the viewers of what they’re watching while still remaining in character
How dare you label Community as "the other show". What is this, the darkest time line???
Community was streets ahead.
Considering the events happened in 2020 I'm sure this IS the darkest timeline
@@hoffl09 I've already started growing my goatee
@@hoffl09 This wouldn't have happened if Jeff didn't roll a 1.
@@howchildish Abed should’ve caught the die before it landed
This show absolutely destroyed the ability to watch anything with canned laughter.
Not being retarded will achieve the same effect.
Wich is a good thing and part of the reason tv series are so good now
Right? Last time I tried I got dirt roaded.
I'll have to agree.. I wanted to watch Seinfeld but I don't think I can anymore just because of that stupid laugh track.
YAAAAAAAAAZ
The Freaky Friday episode is criminally underrated, just because it was S4. It's such a nice way to wrap up their relationship.
And the fact that Jim Rash wrote it. It's like the saving grace of s4 aka the "gas leak year"
Of course this show is still talked about!
It was streets ahead!
Stop trying to coin the phrase "Streets ahead"!
@@vitali2980 If you think that way, you're streets behind
@@vitali2980 coined it and minted it
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@@casey339 Shut up Lenard, I saw your nose job, it was a lateral move!
I love Abed and how he makes the show perfectly meta. He's just the best character.
You don't understand the character.
@@SuperMrDelgado you don't understand the character
@@TheNarwhalGal you dont understand the character
@@deadlyninja112 you don’t understand the character
@@agentg0215 you don’t understand the character
Community is the smartest sitcom of all time. We just live in a world for Friends fans.
Come on now. You can love both shows.
Yup.
Truly the darkest timeline
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits totally. Funny thing that they don't realize that there would no Community without Friends.
@@natalyamartirosyan It's not about who did it first, it's about who did it better.
When I finished Community I was legitimately sad, like really sad. The characters grow on you so much
I love how the claymation episode is essentially two episodes in one. Try listening to it without looking at the screen, and it becomes a very different episode (which they even reference later on).
amen!!
I just love how Rick and Morty is basically Remedial Chaos Theory on crack
No wonder you need such a high IQ to understand it
How so?
It really isn't. "Dur-hur multiverse." That is an extremely superficial similarity.
Rick and Morty very much runs on the fuel of "There are no stakes, nothing matters". RCT is all about the stakes, the episode basically sets the tone for the rest of the series.
@@ocek2744 > the episode basically sets the tone for the rest of the series.
What do you mean by that ?
The best thing about Community is how it uses pop culture references to make you feel cool and accepted for being "in" on them as part of that geeky culture (and there are such a wide range of pop culture references that there's something for everyone), unlike others show *cough cough* that just use geeky references as a lazy punchline to make fun of...
ooooh a shade to TBBT HAHAHA
I really don't like how Abed is commentates sometimes about what's happening on the episode, as if he knows it's a TV show.
I can't watch Big bang theory either.
especially in the DnD episode, if you know what they're talking about you feel more immersed into the episode, as if you were playing an actual DnD session
@@MaxIronsThird abed doesnt really commentate unless you consider the dnd eps commentating
Still disappointed Abed wasn’t mentioned in the Nicholas Cage episode
"I'm a cat! I'm a sexy cat!"
Nicholas Cage’s best performance was done by Abed Nadir!
I can't wait for the Community movie to tackle our cultural obsession with video film essays.
There is no show that blends humour and heart together quite like Community.
But fuck season 4
I would argue Scrubs had more heart than community, but I still like Community a bit more.
Six seasons and a wisecrack episode
Nice
#andamovie
It feels like this video was written by someone who just watched community for the first time cause they were instructed to make a video about community. In many ways community is more genius than Rick and Morty but this video seems like just a little superficial exploration of R&Ms less popular cousin. I think that exploring certain episodes in individual videos would be a much better approach. Also, as a little extra, I would like to point out how Community's cast is arguably the most talented sitcom cast ever, people like Donald Glover, Alison Brie, Gillian Jacobs, John Oliver, Ken Jeong...
I give wisecrack credit for doing one on community but i see what you mean. I felt the same way when they did that video on Spongebob. They used examples from season 4, while explaining harmons philosophy. There is also a lot more to explore, as you said, they could do a whole video on each episode alone and the ideas explored in each episode, as they did with rick and morty.
Totally agree
Agreed. Everyone knows we don't talk about 'the gas leak year'. And how is community "the other show?". Community owns.
this is is about as deep as the philosophy for rick and mouth video goes, or any other of their “philosophy of xxxx” goes, they just dedicated more videos to rock and marty bc of the popularity at the time. i don’t understand how ur comparing tens of R&M videos to one community video lol. compare the first OG “philosophy of” videos if anything
sounds like u aren’t a big wisecrack fan lol
Community the best show. In Iraq it is very popular.
because of jacobs and brie, not much else :(
What does it really have to compete with in Iraq?
@@frankwagner3659 Friends and crazy Syrian shows about love
Dude it's popular here in Syria as well. Despite the shitty series about love.
@@AhmadLad Who said it is not popular in Syria? Btw. Al Zeer Salem. Best Syrian and arab TV show of all time.
We did Brecht's "Caucasian Chalk Circle" in college. At one point we scripted an actor calling out "Line" right near the middle point of the show. It was by far my favorite device we used to remind the audience that they're watching a play; everything got really tense in the room because the audience never once realized it was scripted. We let it stew for a while, definitely getting people to think things like "well, it's a college production, but still."
Please do more Community, it's literally the best show in history
#andamovie
One of the most fascinating things about Community is the way in which the writers are able to simultaneous lampoon Sitcom genre tropes while also USING those very same tropes in its storytelling.
I’m so glad Netflix added Community because otherwise I wouldn’t have discovered this gem. I wish I saw it when it aired but this is fine too.
Netflix India is crap it doesn't have good shows like Community And parks and rec
I watched Community for the first time about a month ago and I have been obsessed with it ever since. What’s weird is that me watching Community in the first place was to get away from what was happening to me irl - exams and stress. Meanwhile the show I was watching was telling me to focus on real life because if you distract and think you’re real life is a tv show, then your missing out on making your life more like this show - unpredictable and enjoyable.
It's true. I could never put in to words why I loved Community so much. I will rewatch this show forever. It subverts expectations and makes you think a little deeper into the characters. Everyone in this show is so fucked up but the show presents respects them and portray them as lovable people. Thank you for this video.
I still can't believe they got rid of the D&D episode.
Pretty much every episode in season 1 & 2 has a moment like this too. Every episode makes a black joke, usually at Pierce's expense, but the Drow triggers everyone.
you can still buy it on itunes. better than nothing.
@@pvtpain66k I bought the episode on Amazon Prime and just watch it when it comes up
welp just found out about it through this comment and now im mad
@Noé Lopez That's because some people - not just of color - actually are and actually can't. And some of those will be persistently loud about it until they've nagged their way into getting to hold a speech at the UN.
"Entertainment is that which reaffirms our values; art is that which challenges them." Folklore and stories have been how we make ourselves think forever.
I don't think I really agree. Community uses the language of TV genres and tropes to weave far more complicated stories and present something new, but it's never really criticizing them. It is a jubilation of this particular language. It assumes you already speak this language and then proceeds to use wordplay with it. Oh and Don Quijote is a much better parallel, in my opinion, Brecht was a bit of a bad choice.
I, too, thought that the Brecht reference was somewhat forced. Brecht's epic theater was developed after the great catastrophies of the 20th century and during an era of global ideological polarization. In his view, theater was meant to transform individuals and thus society and not merely to question established tropes and genre conventions.
@@styx9193 I think Wisecrack has really been half-assing it for a very long time now. They have a simple formula which they follow: take a product of pop culture, take a work of high art or a philosopher and jampack as many comparisons as possible whether they fit or not. But hey, people seem to enjoy it, so my complaints are probably exaggerated.
I think Community does have some criticisms. The expectation of Britta and Jeff being endgame or Annie vs Britta making some love triangle are things other sitcoms would pounce on, but Community stands out in its unique way of dealing with romantic relationships between characters. But the criticisms are subtle, and much like Abed, Community is also a celebration of media to a new level. It critcises recycling tropes at face value and instead twists tropes to make a newer level of humour and storytelling.
It's a criticism of not using the medium to its fullest, and a celebration of what television and storytelling can be.
@@sethboyd4450 I also think it kind of critizised the happily ever after trope with its ending, but yeah, overall I don't think it's meant to critizise tropes
"There is skill to it. More importantly, it has to be joyful, effortless, fun. TV defeats its own purpose when it’s pushing an agenda, or trying to defeat other TV or being proud or ashamed of itself for existing. It’s TV. It’s comfort. It’s a friend you’ve known so well, and for so long you just let it be with you, and it needs to be okay for it to have a bad day or phone in a day, and it needs to be okay for it to get on a boat with Levar Burton and never come back. Because eventually, it all will." ~ Abed Nadir 613
I just finished the series last week. I was avoiding season six, since half the cast had left the show for different reasons, but then I realized the rest of the the show was just as good as the other seasons. The new characters made for good additions, the writing was excellent and I laughed just as much as I did with the other seasons (except season 4. Something was off with it. People could smell it...). So I moved on from the fact that Pierce, Troy and Shirley wouldn't be there anymore and went on with it. The end was heartwarming, a little bittersweet, but that's life. I feel like an orphan of the show. Now I can only hope for the movie. Fingers crossed 😁
Abed is basically just what the fanbase acts like on Tumblr
Tumblr?!
This is the most succinctly worded terrible take I've ever witnessed...
Last time I logged into my Tumblr was before this show aired I'm pretty sure lol.
Abed is more like Wikipedia for fanbases. The true Tumblr of the group is Britta.
I would say its the Reddit fanbase
I'm crying because i never thought the day would come where you make a video on this show
We did it!
You might enjoy this too! ua-cam.com/video/VQI-_cxd_Kw/v-deo.html
As a guy with social anxiety and bad communication skills whose literally uses “copying other characters on tv” to navigate and further my social life cuz I don’t have much confidence in my own skills….. this hit deep and I really feel called out 😅
My favorite sight gag is still the Dean dressed as Amadeus saying, "the music program is Baroque!" Every. Time.
I taught the Bottle Episode in English 9 for story structure and predicting outcomes. Works really well.
HIMYM's ending is hated by most people because of T&R coming back together even if it didn't fit their characters anymore
Especially after 2 whole storylines building up to Barney and Robin's wedding and Ted Mosby meeting the Mother,only to drop it like an episode later.
I'm less upset at Ted and Robin ending up together than I am Robin and Barney not ending up together
And the fact that they had to divorce a couple that worked, and kill the show's new fan favorite character, to make it happen.
I'm filled with rage anytime HIMYM is brought up. It makes so angry the writers destroyed that show in the last half hour.
Just finished this show and absolutely loved it. Put it off for ages as I heard there was a massive drop in quality, tbh I enjoyed seasons 4-6 just as much as 2-3, the whole thing is amazing.
"Cool. Cool, cool, cool."
"That's a lie"
"Are we including the gas leak year?"
Nope
Preferably, no.
As far as I'm concerned it never happened
Well he did mention the body swap episode, so...
Using multiple examples from the gas leak year while ostensibly talking about the intent of Dan Harmon's writing felt like The Philosophy of Dark Souls all over again. #StreetsBehind
Just thinking about that. Still great video but should have only focused on dans writing since that seemed to be the focus
My thoughts, exactly. Yet again, they did a real sloppy job here. Like they have a schedule for the uploads, but not much else. And dark souls - I can understand, they were desperate to get into a hype train, but community? Half a decade old show that's kinda popular on Netflix? I don't see anything justifying this.
And the whole episode feels like it was made out of really stretched out thoughts they just had to fill with references from the show.
@@MrFiremagnet Totally. Even the basic premise of Community as Brecht's Epic Theatre is pretty weak. Community is absolutely fueled by emotionality; I've rewatched it plenty of times just to feel close to the characters again, as if they were friends. And it's not just a personal thing, I've talked to other people about this. That's a radically different experience than Brecht's distancing effect. Which is a bit of a shame, because there's tons of things to say about Community. But whatevs, let's hope the next one's better.
Thank you so much for pointing out those awful examples of season 4... I feel that Community deserves a deeper introspection and analysis and even though I liked this video, I still feel that the intellectual grandeur of this series hasn't been really well explained
I was totally noticing that too. Far too many S4 clips when discussing Harmon. I did wonder if it's because Harmon's writing tends to have longer set ups and is therefore harder to use as bite size clips, where as s4's writing is basically made for canned laugher. Buuuut I've seen other video essayists use other clips so I doubt that's the reason.
Wow! I would have assumed it was a reference to how we all return to comfortable situations rather than taking risks and seeking quality relationships. Our communication in society is very challenged by our casual references to stories that we all understand differently. This just got even more meta for me!
Quick note, the Jeff/Annie thing was mainly fueled by online fandom reactions to the couple. It wasn't necessarily as deep as subverting expectations vis-a-vis Jeff/Britta but still meaningful since it involved a kind of collaboration with the viewer. There's a lovely quote of Dan during a panel saying the way the story progresses and the way fans react to something organically creates relationships.
This is one that i was expecting from jared, but anyway, my favourite show ever.
I’m with you my favorite show ever
Jared doesn't work there anymore.
@@eyeln9ne696 i know, i follow the channel for years now, kinda sad say goodbye to him, but still a great channel by it's own merit.
Oh man i miss him desperately
@@hugazo exactly my sentiment. He loves everything meta. I hope he's faring well.
Paradigms of human memory is one of the best critiques to TV tropes ever... such a waste of production resources but such a win for comedy IMO
I could've sworn they did a Community episode before. Do I have Changnesia?
You wish you have Changnesia, that way you could watch Community all over again as if was the first time.
Community was referenced in their video on references in rick and morty. There was also a video by leo ashe on the philosophy of community with wisecrack hastagged, that could be it.
Me too. Something about referencing. Or maybe that was another video essay
No, I deandn't think so.
Community needs to be as known as the office smh
Community > The Office
Why?
@@LuisSierra42 If you need to ask, you are streets behind
@@GoN54L0 hehe, i have never watched it
@@LuisSierra42 Its on Netflix, really worth the bench :D
I'm so impressed with the way they incorporated Bert Brecht into this video essay. These are always so clever, I love it :)
Community was a pivotal point in my life. I felt like Dan Harmon after attending my community college and having an ENG class that was VERY similar.
Some time ago I had Brecht in school while watching community at home
and I was like: Is that the thing?
It seems to be
I talk to “the audience” like Abed.
Just to make sure that if this is a show that at least it will be an entertaining one.
I just finished watching community for the first time a couple of weeks ago so I happy you made this video now. The show was awesome, totally different for other sitcoms making it a great change of pace.
Liked you analysis of Abed, him and Troy were what made the show great. I really missed their silly ending when Troy left.
Tv don't make us smarter but surely makes us feel smarter
Like Rick and Morty
They show documentaries and educational programmes on tv. Also, eat shit for spewing it.
@@LuisSierra42 crazy. Like it's the same creator as community😂
If tv doesn't make us smarter books certainly don't
Someone obviously never watched Carl Sagan hosting Cosmos, or Bill Nye, or Sesame Street, or Mr Roger's Neighborhood, or even more modern stuff like Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell or other bits of science fiction intended to make the audience introspective.
I'd say Community and Arrested Development are in a league of their own, there will never be anything like it again
I envy the person who had to find and edit all of these clips from the show .
Are you not allowed to watch the show?
@@SuperMrDelgado they probably wouldn't get paid for it tho
It's sobering when you realize you miss the Community characters and wish they were still with you or that you could be with them and though you might like to think of yourself as a Jeff or a Brita, you're actually closer to Abed.
"He struggles to deal with his buddy leaving to explore the world by boat with the host of Reading Rainbow." I lmao'd XD
The point of a clip show has always been for the cast and crew to pretty much have a week off, by using clips of old shows instead of filming a whole new episode. Community not only subverted the clip show trope by "remembering" things that hadn't happened on the show, but they used their clip show to run around the studio lot filming ENTIRELY NEW 20 second scenes, changing sets and costumes to reflect all the old episodes. The Community clip show is the hardest they worked in the entire run, and the joy they express when talking about that episode is everything you need to know about why I love this show so damned much.
I feel that ‘Spaced’ explored themes in a similar way. Using pop culture references and cliches coupled to a meta commentary exploring it relationship with those references. As well as being hilarious.
Thanks for bringing up my man Bertolt. My German highschool was named after him and you basically couldn't not see some of his work. Gets quite meta which is refreshing when coming from the classical drama.
thank you for putting a spoiler warning....
after you've already said Shirley leaves....... ;)
If it's any comfort she gets worse every season, and she only leaves on the last season
I mean if it helps, that’s not really a writer-intended plot point that’s being foretold, it was just the actress exiting. The only thing that’s being “spoiled” is the disappointment you may feel when her character doesn’t come back. if you know about community then you won’t get far without hearing about all the struggles it had as it replaced its cast, been almost cancelled, and had transformed by the end
Community is by far one of my favorite shows, and I feel that it's completely underrated since the only people I meet who has even seen an episode, are online, in person it's like nobody has ever heard of the show
I spent 1 h at the office. Most of the time im home. THATS WHY I NEED EARBUDS
This show was so good it makes other shows less funny. When you see what's possible, everything else starts to look lazy. The fake clip show is my shining example. A traditionally cheap and easy episode to produce becomes one of the hardest most expensive. It's genius.
I haven't clicked faster on any video.
same same
This
Literally said "yess" out loud when I saw it
I thought it was a mirage
So... Abed is the archetype for Wanda in WandaVision. If Abed is in grief and has the power of Wanda Maximoff, I can totally seem him hold an entire town stranded and play out TV plots in his mind.
Also since I’m on the spectrum I can identify More with that character than almost any character from any show ever
Good for you.
Same
This video is amazing. When I studied theatre, Brecht was my favorite playwright and community was my favorite show. I never made the connection.
It's one of the most awaited video. Community my one of the favorite show. Kinda wanted Jared to do it but this is also pretty good.
I did it first though! 😂 ua-cam.com/video/VQI-_cxd_Kw/v-deo.html
oh man that last episode with Donald Glover was rough to get through. Enough tears flowed for the Reading Rainbow guy's boat.
I'm a simple man, I see Community, I click.
Thanks wisecrack! You once again proved that this is one of the most important UA-cam channels around. Keep up the good work.
I can’t believe you show a clip of Chidi and Eleanor from Good Place while covering couples that needlessly get together. Know Your Shows!
Love to see that people are still making videos on the community
One of my very favorite channels talking about one of my very favorite shows about one of my very favorite topics; what could go wrong?
Technically, and not specifically about that, a lot.
I was very lucky to watch the show since day 1 and I've loved it since. And now I'm very happy that one my favorite UA-cam channels finaly made video about it. 6 seasons and a movie!
This show slaps watched it multiple times still fire
Fuck yeah
I watch it Start to End about 3 times a year. It really is a great show that, like Newsradio, was screwed by the network but STILL succeeded
Basically: Dan Harmon > Disney
You didn't warn me for spoilers of HIMYM... I didn't know T&R ended up together :(
I watch Fox News, TLC and Lifetime and I can feel that I’m at super saiyan genius god level....yep.
Tier 6 Lotus
The concept that some of life's problems comes from internalizing the media we consume would explain why people who watch a lot of reality TV tend to have an impossible time navigating simple disagreements without dragging it out for weeks on end.
*STREETS* *AHEAD*
I’m giving a second view on the show because the first time i’ve get stucked in season 4, somehow i felt like the group changed from comunity to scooby doo, now i will go to all the seasons
30 years from now I'll be pestering my grandkids to watch this show
check back to see how it goes
Look to avoid black ice.
Tell them about the D&D episode... then watch them freak out trying to find an illegal bootleg of it on the dark web.
Community and Parks and Rec got me through college. It was amazing to watch them every Thursday on NBC. Watching season 2 of Community with my friends back then was such a great experience. Sadly the show died after Season 3. Even when Dan Harmon came back from the grave...
OH MY GOD THE DAY IS FINALLY HERE! MY FAVOURITE MEDIA ANALYSIS CHANNEL HAS MADE A VIDEO ABOUT MY FAVOURITE SHOW!
Community was the show that I was waiting for my entire life without ever knowing it. It gave me the ability to recognize the mediocrity that exists in "hit shows." My media consumption has been impacted ever since.
Are we all a bit like abed? Yes. Our whole cultere seems to digress into tiktok and instagram making memes (references, and references on refeerences) the only way we communicate...
Hence the development of metaphor; have we always been like this, digressing into reference? Why?
That's literally how all language works. Words, and their meanings, don't exist "in nature". Certain sounds or squiggly lines become words when they are given a meaning by reference, or in relation, to an existing word or concept. Even the original words, in the oldest languages, were just abstract references to things that did exist "in nature" (i.e. trees, animals, water, a day, coldness, pain, etc.)
References on references on references isn't a digression; it's what's been growing and evolving human communication since the dawn of civilisation.
I literally just finished watching community for the first time. Thank you wisecrack
BLESS THIS TIMELINE FOR WISECRACK MAKING A COMMUNITY VIDEO
It's one of the shows I started to binge watch for the first time in 2022 and I love it
#AndAMovie before I get struck by lightening and die...
Community is pretty young. We try not to philosophize it.
If you’re in the comments, you’re a little bit like Abed
In filmmaking, there can be a fine line between making something without substance, and substance abuse.
And please do not call Community "the other show". I love Rick and Morty, but Community is streats ahead of it
Yeah agreed. Rick and Morty is a bit "meta", but Community is on another level
I personally love when people try to act like the media they consume doesn't affect who they are as people when you can actively see how it shapes them kind of how people say one thing but then do something totally different
This show is streets ahead.
My buddy and I often cite Community, not only for its witty humor, but its meta commentary. He and I believe Abed is actually the show "community" in human or cast form. While we haven't delved this deep into it, I feel we hit the same nerve you guys over at Wise Crack have. I feel like you guys hit this one right on the head.
Others: I'm a nerd so I watch Big Bang Theory.
Me: real nerd watch Community.
true
I remember as child that many of the other children would _coincidentally_ also sometimes act like people on TV:
E.g. Girls and boys sought partners, everyone was spreading rumours about who was together (or more like who they *thought* were together), and the people who were the best at using violence were seen as cool and got respect for it.
I must have assumed all along that this tendency just dissappeared as people grew older but now I see that some people continue to do it even though they are _ADULTS_ even though others depend on them being in touch with reality.