Episode 95: Jonathan Pageau and Spencer Klavan: God, Dante, Jordan Peterson and How to Save the West

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • Welcome to More Christ. We seek to bring some of the world's most interesting and insightful guests to discuss life's central and abiding questions.
    In this ninety fifth episode in a series of discussions, I'm joined once more by Jonathan Pageau and Dr Spencer Klavan.
    Jonathan carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images. He also designs products, teaches, and makes fantastic videos for The Symbolic World that explore how ancient patterns can re-enchant our contemporary life.
    Please check out Jonathan's channel:
    / jonathanpageau
    With a PhD in Classics, Spencer Klavan has recently been snapped up by The Daily Wire. He is the assistant editor of The Claremont Review of Books and The American Mind at the Claremont Institute.
    Spencer's literary expertise is aided by his knowledge of many languages, including Ancient Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. As a scholar who enjoys exploring how great works of literature provide valuable insights into today's world, Klavan hosts Young Heretics every Tuesday.
    Please see his website and some of his excellent articles, here:
    youngheretics....
    claremontrevie...
    www.dailywire....

КОМЕНТАРІ • 39

  • @dargosian
    @dargosian Рік тому +8

    Jonathan Pageau AND Spencer Klavan?! These are two of my favorite people on the internet. I never thought I'd get to see them together! Thanks!

  • @adamq8216
    @adamq8216 Рік тому +6

    You have extremely good book recomendations through the whole videos, thank you for that! You should link to all books in every video in the description 🙏 would be awesome, thanks for this great discussion

  • @albertbako1019
    @albertbako1019 Рік тому +3

    You genius, you actually did it, as promised. Thank you for bringing these two together!

  • @NornIronMan.
    @NornIronMan. Рік тому +6

    Another great video. It's certainly interesting to consider how VR could be integrated into our lives in a positive way. Plenty of people don't have the same concerns our corner of the internet seem to have with the next wave of technology. I watched a show this evening where a couple renovated and old Victorian gate lodge and the husband was excited by his new front door that only opens by fingerprint technology. He was saying he wished he could have got one that used a microchip in your wrist but they were too expensive.

  • @carolineswansey4291
    @carolineswansey4291 Рік тому +8

    So incredibly uplifting, more Christ, Amen!

  • @I4MWH014M
    @I4MWH014M Рік тому +4

    What an interesting meander through our times, thank you

  • @WM-tl7zw
    @WM-tl7zw 8 місяців тому +2

    Are you an Orthodox? I’m from England and I’ve been a strong Protestant for quite some time.
    Since getting into the symbolic world I’ve noticed most of my favourite people are orthodox.
    Just wondering what your thoughts are. Keep up the good work!

  • @quentissential
    @quentissential Рік тому +4

    Another gem!

  • @dawnmuir5052
    @dawnmuir5052 Рік тому +1

    Great conversation! I've been enjoying the conversation from Dublin with Pageau Kingsnorth and Shaw here in Winnipeg, Canada - thanks for sharing! Looking forward to watching the Washington conference as well! 😍

  • @gistwithjoe
    @gistwithjoe Рік тому +2

    Just finished this. Great Conversation!

  • @coren4739
    @coren4739 Рік тому +7

    A difference in being necessitates symbols to mediate the interaction between the various states of beings.

  • @stevenmathews7621
    @stevenmathews7621 8 місяців тому +1

    What a gracious host

  • @exquofonte
    @exquofonte 11 місяців тому +1

    If there’s one thing I’d love Jonathan to write a book about, it’s this concept of hierarchy inherent in our experience of and interaction with ourselves and the world. Seems to me so important and so little understood anymore

  • @shari6063
    @shari6063 Рік тому +5

    Marcas, not sure if you have already seen it, but there is a fantastic conversation with Bishop Maximus and John Vervaeke that came out a few days ago. I was reminded of it when Jonathan and Spencer were trying to articulate the Trinity. I don’t think I can put the link in here but it is on John Vervaeke’s channel.

    • @MoreChrist
      @MoreChrist  Рік тому +3

      Thank you for sharing, Shari! :)

    • @shari6063
      @shari6063 Рік тому +2

      @@MoreChrist are there still tickets available for Dublin in June?

    • @MoreChrist
      @MoreChrist  Рік тому +2

      @@shari6063 yes, I haven't put them up for sale yet. I will do this month though. :)

    • @shari6063
      @shari6063 Рік тому +2

      @@MoreChrist I’m dreaming a little……☺️ but who knows. God willing.

    • @MrRickkramer
      @MrRickkramer Рік тому

      I just came from that and now this one popped up. It was a very illuminating talk with the bishop, I’m looking forward to the next one.

  • @Fruity_White
    @Fruity_White Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this man, loved it

  • @lauragiles5193
    @lauragiles5193 Рік тому +4

    Starts with Abraham.

  • @ralph3008
    @ralph3008 Рік тому +2

    Excellent discussion. Thank you. Was wondering where I could find details of the events talked about in Dublin and London

    • @MoreChrist
      @MoreChrist  Рік тому +2

      The London event is live now on Eventbrite. If you have London set for the area and type in Calvin Robinson, it should come up. The Dublin one will be going up soon. :)
      I'll try and share the Eventbrite link, here:
      www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-on-true-conservatism-and-the-christian-faith-tickets-513036876107

    • @ralph3008
      @ralph3008 Рік тому +1

      @@MoreChrist Thank you

  • @MoreChrist
    @MoreChrist  Рік тому +2

    If any of you fine folks want to join us in London in March, tickets are available here, now: www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/an-evening-on-true-conservatism-and-the-christian-faith-tickets-513036876107

  • @Tybourne1991
    @Tybourne1991 Рік тому +1

    On the symbolizing aspect within the Trinity, see The Mind of the Maker by Dorothy Sayers. We know that the Father begets rather than making the Son. Yet, in our human creations, we see an imperfect analogy of Father, Son and Spirit in the maker, what we make and the making.

  • @quentissential
    @quentissential Рік тому +2

    58:43... Owen Barfield's 'Final Participation'?

  • @julianchase95
    @julianchase95 Рік тому +1

    Jonathan mentions 2024 as a terrible year. What does he think will happen then?

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo Рік тому +2

    Great piece about the false idol in ai systems that we anthropomorphize

  • @Tybourne1991
    @Tybourne1991 Рік тому

    We can see a reflection of the idea of action without an actor in the prevalence of the passive voice. For instance, 'inmates were given a short, sharp shock.' Once you become aware of it, you notice this type of grammatical slippage everywhere.

  • @SMacCuUladh
    @SMacCuUladh Рік тому +1

    Marcas, you sound like you're from somewhere near me, I'm from Newry.

    • @MoreChrist
      @MoreChrist  Рік тому

      Yessir. I was born in Newry and raised in South Armagh. :)

  • @taylornovia8911
    @taylornovia8911 Рік тому

    Music as "weapons grade emotions"

  • @SeekerAppleSwordSerpent
    @SeekerAppleSwordSerpent 2 місяці тому

    What’s the opening song?

    • @MoreChrist
      @MoreChrist  2 місяці тому

      The title is in the More Christ about section.