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The Surprising Problems With The City Grid - Cheddar Explains

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  • Опубліковано 1 кві 2020
  • The rectangular grid is an ancient city plan and has been used by civilizations for thousands of years. It underpins many of our cities to this day, and has been hailed for its efficiency. But there is a surprising dark side to the city grid. So, what is the darkness that underlies our city grids, and how might the grid be bad for us today?
    Further reading:
    The Dark Side of the Grid: Power and Urban Design by Jill L. Grant
    www.researchgate.net/publicat...
    City on a Grid: How New York Became New York by Gerard Koeppel
    books.google.com/books?id=CpL...
    Ohio History Central
    ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Land...
    99 Percent Invisible
    99percentinvisible.org/episod...
    The Salt Lake Tribune
    www.sltrib.com/opinion/commen...
    Aeon Magazine
    aeon.co/essays/why-boring-str...
    The Guardian
    www.theguardian.com/cities/20...
    www.theguardian.com/cities/20...
    Congress for the New Urbanism
    www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2017...
    Hexagonal Planning in Theory and practice by Eran Ben-Joseph and David Gordon
    web.mit.edu/ebj/www/Hexagonal.pdf
    City Plan by Charles R. Lamb
    urbanplanning.library.cornell....
    The Law and Economics of Street Layouts: How a Grid Pattern Benefits a Downtown by Robert C. Ellickson
    digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/c...
    The Origin and Spread of the Grid-Pattern Town by Dan Stanislawski
    www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/2110...
    History of Public Health in New York City, 1625-1866: Volume 1 by John Duffy
    www.jstor.org/stable/10.7758/...
    Mythologies of the Grid in the Empire City, 1811-2011 by Reuben S. Rose-Redwood
    www.jstor.org/stable/41303641...
    Did Racists Create the Suburban Nation? by David L. Chappell
    www.jstor.org/stable/30031671...
    Gridded Worlds: An Urban Anthology, American Cities: The Grid Plan and the Protestant Ethic, by Richard Sennett books.google.com/books?id=gXZ...
    Hippodamus and the Planned City By Alfred Burns
    www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/4435...
    Plan and Constitution: Aristotle's Hippodamus: Towards an 'Ostensive' Definition of Spatial Planning by Luigi Mazza
    www.jstor.org/stable/27715094... to Cheddar on UA-cam: chdr.tv/subscribe
    Connect with Cheddar!
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    On Cheddar.com: chdr.tv/cheddar

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  • @jakobfink9909
    @jakobfink9909 4 роки тому +4630

    ”From the US to the US, from the US to the US, and from the US all the way to Spain”

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 4 роки тому +488

      Jeogrephy

    • @gangsterbroccoli
      @gangsterbroccoli 4 роки тому +26

      Vincenzo Rutigliano lol

    • @Thrill_Hou
      @Thrill_Hou 4 роки тому +125

      Could’ve thrown in the world famous Milton Keynes in there

    • @juancruzcarugnoenrico1709
      @juancruzcarugnoenrico1709 4 роки тому +241

      @Johnson Taylor or maybe, just maybe, there exist other places apart from the US and Barcelona. But hey, at least you know that Barcelona is in Europe

    • @camatzuma
      @camatzuma 4 роки тому +110

      Johnson Taylor
      I don’t think anyone agrees with you

  • @trev-gulls
    @trev-gulls 4 роки тому +487

    Who let the intern make a video?

    • @thefareplayer2254
      @thefareplayer2254 4 роки тому +2

      Trevor Gullstad my exact question!

    • @bluegoka
      @bluegoka 4 роки тому +7

      It’s the boss’s daughter.

    • @TheGrindcorps
      @TheGrindcorps Місяць тому +1

      It’s a good video. I hate city grids and now I understand why, they are fascist!

  • @alyssal.567
    @alyssal.567 4 роки тому +1504

    “The grid system is evil because the Roman Empire conquered a lot of people”

    • @684avatar
      @684avatar 3 роки тому +90

      Basically what this video is telling people 😆

    • @chloejohnson6861
      @chloejohnson6861 3 роки тому +93

      And because "grid" is short for gridiron, a torture device. That definitely makes them evil.

    • @maxg4304
      @maxg4304 3 роки тому +14

      @@chloejohnson6861 Interesting that they brought that up only once American cities became the focus...

    • @joncuz718
      @joncuz718 3 роки тому +9

      I always though "grid" is faster way of asking for a McGriddle.

    • @thatwasprettyneat
      @thatwasprettyneat 2 роки тому

      exactly.

  • @MrJoking4fun
    @MrJoking4fun 4 роки тому +2440

    I feel like this video is some sort of high school kid who tried to hail Mary a paper they had to write based on reading material they barely skimmed over.

    • @paulwebb2078
      @paulwebb2078 4 роки тому +125

      Same impression I got, feels very fluffy, like the author doesn't have any real understanding about what they're writing.

    • @Swoost
      @Swoost 4 роки тому +90

      doesn't help that the narrator sounds like a high school girl

    • @vishnu4234
      @vishnu4234 4 роки тому +3

      Felt like what's your point.

    • @jorgepfluckerolaechea5567
      @jorgepfluckerolaechea5567 4 роки тому +13

      Im not used to see a conspiracy theory in this channel. Maybe they want to follow the path of History Channel. Nice

    • @kenster8270
      @kenster8270 4 роки тому +18

      ​@@Swoost She does speak like an airhead, but least she's not a vocal fryer. In any casy, I had to stop watching after 2 minutes.

  • @jonsmustache7704
    @jonsmustache7704 4 роки тому +2102

    This is not the quality of writing and delivery I have come to expect from Cheddar.

    • @christianmoore7109
      @christianmoore7109 4 роки тому +113

      Jons Mustache “Geometric repression” is where I kind of lost interest.

    • @Nunavuter1
      @Nunavuter1 4 роки тому +106

      The arguments are weaker than usual, while the claims made are less rooted in fact than subjective impression. I agree. This is not Cheddar at its best.

    • @confusedwhale
      @confusedwhale 4 роки тому +67

      It's like a high schooler's essay.

    • @deadseadiver3214
      @deadseadiver3214 4 роки тому +32

      @@confusedwhale It would embarrass a high schooler.

    • @717euf
      @717euf 4 роки тому +34

      It just seems like they are interpreting things where there is nothing.
      A Grid is the simplest way to organize. The Romans had well organized and more importantly Sanitized!!!! Cities. Other Cultures have also Colonized. At least the Romans offered genuine development. If people are used to living dirty, Bathhouses may seem like a tyrannical imposition, but it is simply providing Hygiene. (Btw. after the Romans, Europe was dirty af.). The Grid is just a system of organizing and when you are colonizing you most likely are the one introducing the order. Doesn't mean the Order is tyrannical.

  • @gildedbear5355
    @gildedbear5355 4 роки тому +1787

    Why do Cheddar videos so often sound like a high-school/college report?

    • @TheMrProboscis
      @TheMrProboscis 4 роки тому +85

      Because they need to appeal to the masses. Keep it simple for the average person

    • @irgendwer3610
      @irgendwer3610 4 роки тому +36

      number 15: burger king foot lettuce

    • @noedd
      @noedd 4 роки тому

      @@irgendwer3610 ao I was abt to say that

    • @ardentvibe6917
      @ardentvibe6917 4 роки тому +29

      It’s not about making it intellectually accessible. It’s just lazy unprofessionalism. They lack imagination in choosing their subject matter, have misguided ideals and lack a creative spirit. Check out Vox. Cheddar is just falling down the drain.

    • @dominicarceo9637
      @dominicarceo9637 4 роки тому +4

      @@ardentvibe6917 Vox is more controversial.

  • @theantemon6720
    @theantemon6720 4 роки тому +756

    Jesus christ though this video was going to discuss actual practical problems of the grid system, not some philosophical mumbo jumbo, Roman oppression bs.

    • @EB-bl6cc
      @EB-bl6cc 4 роки тому +35

      haha yeah, this video gives "reach" a new meaning. It's too bad because some cheddar videos aren't so bad

    • @sebastianelytron8450
      @sebastianelytron8450 4 роки тому +9

      Did you watch the whole video?? First half was crap, second half was awesome.

    • @anniehimself
      @anniehimself 4 роки тому +1

      Triggered

    • @greenboy1916
      @greenboy1916 4 роки тому +22

      Sebastian Elytron It doesn’t matter how good the second half was if you start off with a beginning that loses the interest of the good part of your audience. When I sit down to watch some thing that I think it’s going to be one thing and it turns out to be another I typically don’t stick around for very long. It’s like showing up to something that was billed as a comedy and finding out it’s a horror story that only gets funny in the second act. Well, I’m not going to watch that.

    • @uzybeens6748
      @uzybeens6748 4 роки тому +1

      How dare you use his name like that /s

  • @Swoost
    @Swoost 4 роки тому +365

    "geometric oppression" lol

    • @Ritaaw1
      @Ritaaw1 4 роки тому +4

      There’s a lot of evidence of this. Don’t take it from me or Cheddar, you could look up other videos speaking about this issue.

    • @christianwestling2019
      @christianwestling2019 4 роки тому +11

      @@Ritaaw1 Yes, lets ask professor Marcus, son of the founder of the Frankfurter School. :D

    • @jack_the_stripper
      @jack_the_stripper 3 роки тому +14

      Sounds like something Sponge Bob could accuse his creators of.

  • @c4ble472
    @c4ble472 4 роки тому +301

    Grid: *is literally a bunch of squares and rectangles*
    Cheddar: “this is a form of repression and tyranny”

    • @abramslion1
      @abramslion1 2 роки тому +12

      Yes the poor indigenous peoples. Terrorised by those evil squares. They were trying to scalp them. 😭

  • @LandoMercy
    @LandoMercy 4 роки тому +385

    I usually love cheddar but this entire video is one big stretch, I’m gonna hope that they were just a day late on their April fools joke

  • @TheBenenene10
    @TheBenenene10 4 роки тому +638

    Tl;dw: some bad people used the grid because it's efficient, some people don't like the grid, there are other city plans other than a grid.
    Cheddar you need to be better.

    • @ludwigrohrig
      @ludwigrohrig 4 роки тому +57

      @@KateYagi - He's spot-on to be honest. This video could've been condensed into 2-4 Minutes rather than this fluffy and poorly-written mess. Just read some of the comments, there are tons of people disappointed with this and other recent videos. Especially depicting a grid as a "tool of tyranny" seems a bit forced and silly...

    • @alfredoalcantar8691
      @alfredoalcantar8691 4 роки тому

      Ben U the grid is good less stressful

  • @dbaldwin2803
    @dbaldwin2803 4 роки тому +229

    I didn't know that Cheddar got bought by The Onion.

    • @MuddieRain
      @MuddieRain 3 роки тому +4

      Or Vice

    • @AsiaMinor12
      @AsiaMinor12 3 роки тому +1

      @@MuddieRain if vice was still good, then the title of the video would have been "Urban gun battles on the grid system".

  • @HamishDuh2nd
    @HamishDuh2nd 4 роки тому +397

    Rome built the roads. Why not just say roads are inherently evil?

    • @eduardo42897
      @eduardo42897 4 роки тому +1

      Roads for?

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 4 роки тому +36

      Most of this is just radical left wing theory and propaganda. Grids are efficient for large numbers of people to have clean water, sewerage systems, and paved roads, in other words, first world living conditions. Suburbs were not built because of racism. This is another left-wing lie. Suburbs grew out of the need for housing after the second world war. It gave working class people the chance to own their own homes with a yard, in greener, low density areas.
      The same thing (suburbs) happened in many western countries, and nearly all of them didnt have black people, or any minority group.

    • @str2010
      @str2010 3 роки тому +3

      @@tubester4567 I don't see how this is left wing. This isn't left or right. It's just pure bs. Pretty sure both sanders and mcconnell would agree

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 3 роки тому +17

      @@str2010 Saying things like suburbs came from racism is left-wing theory.

    • @ilenastarbreeze4978
      @ilenastarbreeze4978 3 роки тому +1

      @@tubester4567 i mean they didnt bave non white people because they had laws and such to say no blacks allowed. So i mean that is kinda racist

  • @pieal7368
    @pieal7368 4 роки тому +180

    Cheddar: the grid makes it hard to go a direct route.
    Also Cheddar: Try Cul-de-sacs

  • @KP-ty9yl
    @KP-ty9yl 4 роки тому +211

    “You can’t make a ten minute guilt by association fallacy about a geometric pattern, it’s impossible!”
    Cheddar: hold my beer

  • @ScottGladstein
    @ScottGladstein 4 роки тому +334

    I love your stuff normally but this had terrible audio quality and sounded like a middle school book report.

    • @LemonExtras
      @LemonExtras 4 роки тому +11

      Scott Gladstein Maybe the producers are working from home and that everybody has decent equipment

    • @kyrakia5507
      @kyrakia5507 4 роки тому +1

      I had to speed it up just to stop myself from being bored to death by the way it was presented

    • @kaitlinsullivan2327
      @kaitlinsullivan2327 4 роки тому +3

      Journalists are making due with the resources they have right now. Chances are, this reporter/producer isn't usually tasked with voice over but had to do it herself in a closet given the current circumstances.

    • @thelight3112
      @thelight3112 4 роки тому

      @@kaitlinsullivan2327 It just wasn't edited properly. Modern smartphones have surprisingly good microphones. Even then, if the person doing the voice over sounds like they're being forced to read their english paper, the recording quality isn't going to make a ton of difference.

    • @TomBruhh
      @TomBruhh 3 роки тому

      It was really slow and the actual content was shit.. highly disappointing

  • @ifxthenwhy6202
    @ifxthenwhy6202 4 роки тому +922

    "Surprising Problems With The City Grid"
    Cities Skylines players: *laughs*

    • @JonathanBondu
      @JonathanBondu 4 роки тому +41

      Sim city players : cry.

    • @dynomar11
      @dynomar11 4 роки тому +19

      Kind of why I'm watching the vid 😂😂😂

    • @stratecheese1302
      @stratecheese1302 4 роки тому +54

      Surprised not surprised. We cities skylines are far more advance in city planning than these youtubers.

    • @li_tsz_fung
      @li_tsz_fung 4 роки тому +11

      Choc-a-bloc grid

    • @Floedekage
      @Floedekage 4 роки тому +19

      I still play SimCity 4 with the NAM add-on. I've build a whole region with an hexagonal layout and it is by far the most efficient when not establishing any non-road public transport.
      I've never really gotten hooked on Skylines. I love all the features and the apperance, but I really hate that it doesn't fill out the landscape with buildings. Nothing bothers me more than a dense city center with huge open grass areas in between buildings.
      But I'm sure we can all agree that SimCity 5 is a waste of time.

  • @thorakvideos2495
    @thorakvideos2495 4 роки тому +1755

    It is very unfortunate that 80% of this video was "pointless" (as to not say bs).
    I remember subscribing to Cheddar for their good quality takes on a wide variety of subjects and I won't unsubscribe yet, but the videos seem more rushed and just don't hold up to anterior videos.
    Also, I am rather fond of calling out racism and forms of discrimination where can be found, but half of this video was calling the square city grid racist... This is just plain stupid...
    The romans used the city grid because it's efficient and that's why we use it today.
    And the city grid does have problems, some which were adressed quickly in this video. Another point, would be to talk about traffic, because the city grid is terrible in that aspect.
    Overall, I'm just dissappointed as I know you guys ( at Cheddar) are capable of better. And you have proven of that in the past, so it would be wrong to abuse your reputation now...

    • @Angel-zv2yi
      @Angel-zv2yi 4 роки тому +38

      K. Yagi agree, they just did it to stretch the video to 10mins for UA-cam algorithms to put this in “recommend” or having better income. Many channels force 10mins long videos for this reason. Just take a look at any of your subscribed channels with +100k subscribers and you will see many videos 10-11mins long.

    • @Angel-zv2yi
      @Angel-zv2yi 4 роки тому +11

      thorakvideos I already unsubscribed long time ago, still watching some recommended videos hoping for quality and impartiality but this was another disappointment...

    • @Floedekage
      @Floedekage 4 роки тому +23

      They could have used more time on alternative layouts and the European "non-layouts".
      Also would have been good to hear something about public infrastructures effect.
      If they had bothered it could have been an interesting 20 min. video, if they had researched a little more and expanded on the topic.

    • @will1230
      @will1230 4 роки тому +12

      Agree with this. Their recent video on artificial coral reefs along Long Island NY was so padded with repeated info that I found it unwatchable.

    • @ardentvibe6917
      @ardentvibe6917 4 роки тому +10

      You are spot on, my friend. I feel like Cheddar has lost their sense of what constitutes as quality content. Check out Vox. I’m way more impressed with their subject matter and creative execution.

  • @meme-lu2yu
    @meme-lu2yu 4 роки тому +191

    Me: I hope they tell us how the grid is bad in a psychological sense and for traffic and having more curvy roads is better
    Cheddar: IMPERIALISM AND COLONIALISM

    • @jonathangazit4739
      @jonathangazit4739 4 роки тому +15

      Curved roads suck. Straight lines are so much better

    • @thorejohannsen1781
      @thorejohannsen1781 4 роки тому

      @@jonathangazit4739 why?

    • @jonathangazit4739
      @jonathangazit4739 4 роки тому +6

      @@thorejohannsen1781 something to do with better visibility, navivation ability, ultimately leading to lower accident rates and such

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому +8

      @@jonathangazit4739 thats false actually
      straight roads and grids are widely considered the most dangerous way to make roads
      curved roads seem to keep drivers more attentive and happy -people report actual enjoyment-
      which lowers rates of incident, weird cury suburbs with T intersections and roundabouts are the most safe road type as far as science is concerned
      _suburbs have no enjoyment, merely suffering_
      but they are technically the safest

    • @marchernandez4596
      @marchernandez4596 3 роки тому +1

      @@YagamiKou they only have lower rates because they have lower traffic. What is true is the T intersectiin reduces statiscal possibilities of accidents. But in thr end what matters is how you manage traffic. Also, roundabouts solve most issues ant X intersection may have and are more efficient in X intersections than the T ones.

  • @vincenzorutigliano5435
    @vincenzorutigliano5435 4 роки тому +261

    I expected something more like city beauty, not anti-imperialist speech :/ xD

    • @abramslion1
      @abramslion1 2 роки тому +6

      oi oh your grids are oppressing me. how dare you?

  • @Gamepro2112
    @Gamepro2112 4 роки тому +270

    Strange how the “grid” is named after the torture device gridiron while the footballs “gridiron” is named after a fireplace cooking device also named a gridiron.

    • @bouteilledeau1463
      @bouteilledeau1463 3 роки тому +31

      The grid named after the torture device is the most far-fetched thing I've ever heard from Cheddar. Wtf...

    • @darkraiknb4279
      @darkraiknb4279 3 роки тому +2

      I cant fully tell which was named first but none the less the guy naming the street design most likely had no idea about the torture device and even so that is just the name that we use it was used in ancient greece wtf is wrong with chedder

    • @kertas1991111
      @kertas1991111 3 роки тому +7

      @@darkraiknb4279 Presumably, both forms of grid iron and the city grid were not named for each other but for the shape they share, the grid. Grid Iron = Grid shaped contraption made of Iron.
      City Grid = Grid shaped layout of a City

    • @darkraiknb4279
      @darkraiknb4279 3 роки тому +1

      @@kertas1991111 Good chance of it

  • @kylelabriola4237
    @kylelabriola4237 4 роки тому +299

    The last thing I wanna do is come into a UA-cam comments section and argue about city grids but I just wanna note [as those much smarter than me have] that laying out a city in a grid-like structure [maybe not as strictly as some cities have] is a vital aspect of making transportation more reliable and feasible for those with less income.
    Winding, curvy, cul-de-sac suburbs are not good for transportation nor good for the environment so I definitely wouldn't want a city to be more like that just in an attempt to retain the beauty of the landscape.

    • @Joe--
      @Joe-- 4 роки тому +17

      This comment is wonderfully enlightened compared to the video. Thank you! I was searching for something like it.
      Btw, do you think the isolation is affecting the staff at Cheddar to the point that the quality of their research/reasoning/ videos is going down?

    • @NatureShy
      @NatureShy 4 роки тому +11

      I prefer winding, curvy roads over straight grid patterns. Much less boring and a far more appealing aesthetic design. Plus, many cities built in hilly areas just cannot have a grid pattern. SF's grid pattern is a bit on the extreme, and many cities are built on even steeper terrain (2-5x steeper even).
      Connecting pathways, sidewalks, multi use paths, bike lanes, and transportation can all help to integrate winding street patterns together. Installing many interblock connecting pathways, stairs, and sidewalks pretty much negates the need to use a grid pattern to create walkability. Unfortunately, most modern suburban cities don't make use of connecting pathways (stairs in hilly areas) and many don't even have sidewalks.

    • @seeitsayitdoggo
      @seeitsayitdoggo 4 роки тому +7

      The UK solved this problem by making cul-de-sacs off of multiple main roads. This way, you only have to walk between 3-5 mins to get to a bus stop or rail station.

    • @polandball999
      @polandball999 4 роки тому +5

      My plan
      Lay out 1 mile squares
      Build grids or something else like natural grid inside the main grid
      Keep the grid as the main roads for traffic
      Use streets inside the grid for housing and commercial

    • @alexbosworth1582
      @alexbosworth1582 4 роки тому +4

      Paul Zawkiewicz I believe Barcelona did something similar. Small grids within a bigger grid; small grid roads were pedestrian-only, big grid roads for cars

  • @bennib91
    @bennib91 4 роки тому +97

    As an European I think most of our cities are grown over time giving them a lot of character. If you plan a city from scratch it's a different story though.

    • @niklasmolen4753
      @niklasmolen4753 3 роки тому +14

      That is also why European cities are so chaotic and inefficient labyrinths. I know because I live in Europe.

    • @lewisgarrison860
      @lewisgarrison860 3 роки тому +5

      This is a very good point. There's so much beauty in preserving the charm and character of historical locations. But if were talking about a city from scratch it very much is a different story.

    • @fbyi2940
      @fbyi2940 3 роки тому +15

      @@niklasmolen4753 wanna trade? I live in US i don't like this car culture country

    • @Aron-ru5zk
      @Aron-ru5zk 3 роки тому +5

      Niklas Molén you’ve never driven in New York have you? I will take London or Paris any day of the week lmao.

    • @JJT3001
      @JJT3001 3 роки тому +4

      Europe doesnt have a lot of huge gride like cities, therefore Europe cant be racist.

  • @tarcal87
    @tarcal87 4 роки тому +229

    7:05 Was she serious?
    She took a 45-degree example, which is (indeed) the worst-case scenario.
    Yet omits the fact that some destinations lie on a dead straight, on the quickest path possible. And there is a range in between.
    What's the alternative? Curvy streets? Then you'll ALWAYS take an inefficient route, as you can never go straight to a destination, ever. And good luck managing that, finding your way around, and so on.

    • @tarcal87
      @tarcal87 4 роки тому +23

      ​@@KateYagi Yeah I couldn't listen to that whine readout and conspiracy theories any more.
      If UA-cam needs to prohibit something, it's subpar videos like this ;) You can't expect people to want to watch this to the end when suddenly conspiracy theories, repression and shit comes in.
      So she said hexagonal. Cool, so with two opposite points, you still have to go around, and you still never, ever have a chance to go dead straight (on the most efficient path). Not two blocks, let alone forever. Instead of dedicating your time to respond in a personal way, you could have thought this over.

    • @NatureShy
      @NatureShy 4 роки тому +6

      @@tarcal87 Some cities are built on very hilly terrain, and having a grid pattern would be absolutely impossible. Winding streets also has an aesthetic design advantage, which isn't appealing to the practically minded person. But there is value in the aesthetic beauty to them.
      The negative effects of winding streets can be mitigated by building interblock connecting pathways, standard curbside sidewalks, and stairs in hillier terrain. Unfortunately most cities don't employ this tactic.

    • @martinkunev9911
      @martinkunev9911 4 роки тому +2

      @@tarcal87 She says hexagonal, but at 9:25 she actually shows hexagons mixed with triangles. In theory this should work better than a grid.

    • @EnjoyFirefighting
      @EnjoyFirefighting 4 роки тому +6

      @@tarcal87 guess what ... you can combine straight and curved roads ... it's often the most efficient way anyway to adapt to local circumstances like a river, hill or mountainside, historic structures or other systems like railroads. E.g. as the RR track makes a turn, why should the road go straight and then make a 90° hard turn instead of slowly turning and staying parallel to the railroad track?

    • @Danbatio
      @Danbatio 3 роки тому +1

      The city of La Plata in Buenos Aires province, Argentina, mix the grid with a well planned diagonals. The result is a fairly open city, easy and fast to travel across.

  • @Boonek
    @Boonek 4 роки тому +164

    time to figure out how to make hexagonal blocks in city skylines

    • @sdwucf
      @sdwucf 4 роки тому +6

      Same, my cities are a merciless gridded mess

    • @ifxthenwhy6202
      @ifxthenwhy6202 4 роки тому +4

      I hardly play the game anymore but that was my first thought too lol

    • @Floedekage
      @Floedekage 4 роки тому +4

      Did that in SimCity 4 with NAM add-on years ago.
      Good for road transport but you'll probably have to use a different layout for train lines.

    • @Michael-ff1tw
      @Michael-ff1tw 3 роки тому +4

      Hexagons are the bestagons

    • @pierredufresne996
      @pierredufresne996 3 роки тому

      We'll need hexagonal rooms and hexagonal furniture. Hexagonal sinks! Hexagonal ovens!
      But why not a Penrose tile city grid? No repetition! But why stop at two dimensions? We could live in 3D aperiodic quasi-crystal tilings.
      No, I don't think so.

  • @marqueanthony2837
    @marqueanthony2837 4 роки тому +207

    High School argumentation called and wants its "premise in search of any random facts we can cobble together" back.
    Sensationalistic headline. Rubbish reporting.

  • @neonsamurai4604
    @neonsamurai4604 4 роки тому +404

    Grids are efficient and safe. Imagine unironically defending culdesac and suburbs lol.

    • @trigrrug
      @trigrrug 4 роки тому +8

      This

    • @gumbyshrimp2606
      @gumbyshrimp2606 4 роки тому +15

      It’s not defending those. It probably wants to bring back the chaotic web of paths that Native American villages had LOL

    • @LaFacedera
      @LaFacedera 4 роки тому +27

      Grids look boring, I prefer my European city.

    • @alexbosworth1582
      @alexbosworth1582 4 роки тому +33

      As an urban planning major, cul-de-sacs make me burn on the inside with rage

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому +13

      ok just saying
      but grids are scientifically known to be the *most dangerous* sort
      suburbs and culdesacs are the safest, because their shapes are actually designed for safety before anything else
      that is why they are so weird and complex, its part of the safety
      in a culdesac children can actually play safely in the road
      and thats pretty much all kids do here
      because their odds of being hit are basically nill
      the safest version of a grid, is where every intersection has a round-about
      as they are far safer and faster then lights
      but america doesnt have many
      which means america actually has the most dangerous roads possible
      we have tones of suburbs and culdesacs
      at most T intersections or culdesacs
      there is actually a rather large walkway, pointed at local stores
      so it is also faster to walk instead of drive
      in the city i could easliy go months without driving
      and i could go even longer without stopping at lights
      since my city doesnt have any lights
      -all round-abouts-
      sure, grids are efficient for space division and easy to navigate without any help
      but beyond that, city planners typically regard grids as poor design due to how dangerous they are
      and if they use lights, how slow they can be for no real reason
      its not like most first world countries moved to suburbs and culdesacs for no reason...
      its a mechanics math formula applied for safety vs efficiency

  • @Krillinish2
    @Krillinish2 4 роки тому +781

    This is a good April Fools joke. Well done.

    • @kingmantheman
      @kingmantheman 3 роки тому +5

      Was it am April fools joke?

    • @dbclass4075
      @dbclass4075 2 роки тому +2

      @@kingmantheman Uploaded two days after the "holiday", 3rd of April 2020.

    • @svis6888
      @svis6888 2 роки тому +1

      @@dbclass4075 for me it's on the 1st

  • @qwertyuiopgarth
    @qwertyuiopgarth 4 роки тому +260

    Cul-de-sacs: 'co-occurred with racism' is not the same things as 'rooted in racism'. Nor does a grid system preclude having room for nature. Also, the Romans would have been jerks even if they didn't implement a grid system.

    • @Stars-Mine
      @Stars-Mine 4 роки тому +14

      They never said cul-de-sacs were rooted in racism, They said the housing regulation at the time was.

    • @qwertyuiopgarth
      @qwertyuiopgarth 4 роки тому +32

      @@Stars-Mine They were talking about cul-de-sacs at the time. The implication was that cul-de-sacs were bad because of their 'association' with racism. I don't like cul-de-sacs, but they are no more racist than a racist book means that books are racist.

    • @alexhutchinson4138
      @alexhutchinson4138 4 роки тому +5

      @@qwertyuiopgarth Cul-de-sacs were originally created to reduce through-traffic in whiter, wealthier neighborhoods by less wealthy, less white people. There's definitely a least a little tinge of racism present.

    • @RickyCatto
      @RickyCatto 4 роки тому

      Also, what is cul-de-sacs? "Bottom of the bags" makes no sense since there are lots of bottoms. It is culs-de-sac - "bottoms of the bag"

    • @qwertyuiopgarth
      @qwertyuiopgarth 4 роки тому

      @@RickyCatto A cul-de-sac is a short dead-end street.

  • @Akoalawithshades
    @Akoalawithshades 4 роки тому +176

    This is quite bad. It didn't provide a shread of evidence that a "grid" is bad. Just living in a city sucks
    ​ 八神こう Roundabouts can exist in a grid system, as many do outside of USA. Also, considering the suburb has far less cars, it's hard to justify it's safer, when the conditions are so different in a city. A suburb is not a city, it's "an outlying district of a city, especially a residential one." i.e away from the busy centre. It could be in a grid formation, the definition doesn't define it as not being so.
    They are saying the "grid" is bad, but all the evidence only supports that a "city" is bad. I don't necessary disagree with the premise but there is no evidence in the video for it.

    • @Akoalawithshades
      @Akoalawithshades 4 роки тому +4

      @@KateYagi that's not evidence. The studies cited were just about living in a city. Hence my comment.

    • @coopaloopvt
      @coopaloopvt 4 роки тому +1

      But suburbs are equally bad due to cars

    • @Akoalawithshades
      @Akoalawithshades 4 роки тому +3

      @@coopaloopvt What? One, the argument that a city is bad is the video's, two cities have ... cars.

    • @YagamiKou
      @YagamiKou 4 роки тому

      grids are known to be more dangerous then suburbs
      that is the main reason other countries use them less today
      and having a roundabout at the intersection is the safer and faster then lights
      which is why alot of places are going with roundabouts too
      the video is crazy
      but there is legit reason not to use grids as americans have them

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 4 роки тому

      A Koala with Shades yes but Americans don't know how to use roundabouts. They're even worse at them than they are at manual gearboxes

  • @scorpionblade4112
    @scorpionblade4112 3 роки тому +14

    Why grids are colonial in nature: Colonisers use grids. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

  • @TheTrainmobile
    @TheTrainmobile 4 роки тому +39

    7:51 What? That doesn't even have to do with a grid layout. You can plan parks and green areas on the grid system. Central park in New York City is literally shown in this video.

  • @Cooe.
    @Cooe. 4 роки тому +22

    Why does EVERY FREAKING CHEDDAR PRESENTER have absolutely freaking GOD AWFUL UPTALK?!?!

    • @Robert89349
      @Robert89349 3 роки тому +2

      THANK YOU! I suppose this is the normal modern girl talk. This one is also vocal frying which makes me mad.

  • @jossdeiboss
    @jossdeiboss 4 роки тому +154

    The first part was good, before the title.
    And the last part about some of the curvy solution was good.
    The stuff in between about "colonization" and "power control" is simply - sorry for the brutality - shit.
    You can achieve the same standardization and contrallability with circles, triangles, exagons...but of course rectangular shape is the most efficient to build and save space.
    The fact that rectangles are monotonous is true and yeah, park make a huge difference (or the super blocks).
    Do we want to increase efficiency? You could build a city prevalentely rectangular but with some diagonals with bigger roads and a centre that is round.
    All the "triangles" generated by the intersection of squares and the diagonal can be filled by parks or other structures that don't need to be square.
    Finally, I would suggest these connections between diagonal and perpendicular system to be "one-way" to avoid >90° turning angles but only quick enter and exit of vehicles.

  • @collectmail3088
    @collectmail3088 4 роки тому +50

    Why the hell is sheeee
    Talking in this rythmmm
    As if this is actuallyyyy
    A very bad rap sonnnng

  • @TheSpacemannspiff
    @TheSpacemannspiff 2 роки тому +11

    I live in a city that isn't based on the grid system. It caused some neighborhoods to be cut off from one another by terrible planning. Public transport in my city is an incredibly inefficient mess and is a large reason for why most commute by car.

  • @stormysamreen7062
    @stormysamreen7062 4 роки тому +8

    Basically, they're talking about the US from start to finish while making it seem like it is a video for the whole world.

    • @alissonlares2926
      @alissonlares2926 3 роки тому

      That is how most US citizens see the world, for real. I had the chance to talk to many of them, and when I ask "where is Tunisia?" as example, they said "I dunno, is it in the south?"

  • @massimookissed1023
    @massimookissed1023 4 роки тому +43

    Should've let MC Escher design city layouts.

  • @sevegarza
    @sevegarza 4 роки тому +53

    About time someone talk about this. I hate my phone, desk, and house I live in because they are made with straight lines. We all need to live in hobbit holes people!

  • @oleksandraverchenko9920
    @oleksandraverchenko9920 3 роки тому +11

    I have lived in 6 cities in my life and visited many more. Grid is perfect, and I would like to see it's more modern improved version.

  • @wudupfammm8555
    @wudupfammm8555 4 роки тому +21

    so.... city grids raycis ?

  • @v4l3nt1nn
    @v4l3nt1nn 4 роки тому +35

    she speaks like the voice of Danger Dolan XD

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 4 роки тому +51

    Engineer: "I have developed a hyper efficient new grid system which also solves stress problems!"
    Armchair Expert: "No this is all a dastardly plot by White Straight Men!"
    Engineer: "Sigh..."

    • @krishnamaggarwal9167
      @krishnamaggarwal9167 3 роки тому +3

      This was used by evil people. We must stop doing this.
      Dies from dehydration.

    • @fbyi2940
      @fbyi2940 3 роки тому

      Grid sux ass
      Its only cool if you want your people to be obese and unhealthy

    • @alexmoore9580
      @alexmoore9580 3 роки тому

      @@fbyi2940 cul-de-sacs cause more obesity than grids. NYC people walk everywhere, suburban people drive everywhere, now you see who's healthier.

  • @TheTrainmobile
    @TheTrainmobile 4 роки тому +6

    I feel that the evidence presented in this video doesn't connect well with the begining claims that were being made.

  • @happilyham6769
    @happilyham6769 4 роки тому +14

    The grid system is very efficient and simple to navigate. Those are the two most important factors when designing a large city. The only issue I have is that I feel that in almost all cities, the blocks are too small. They should be like 3x larger with less streets for cars and more walkways for pedestrians and green areas.

  • @danderson8431
    @danderson8431 4 роки тому +11

    Downtown San Antonio’s downtown is a mess of winding roads and one way streets. Apparently the city planners just paved over the old horse trails. It can be a pain in the butt to get around.

    • @Tjp361
      @Tjp361 4 роки тому +1

      You are very correct sir. Horrible for traffic. But perhaps a great layout for pedestrians.

    • @danderson8431
      @danderson8431 4 роки тому +2

      Tyler Powers .... that is in a way true. Our downtown being the way it is allows the river to flow through it easily, and the streets are all raised above the river, so what happens is that most of the Pedestrians stroll along the river. I absolutely get why it’s that way, and it’s one of those things that makes San Antonio special, but it really is tough on drivers.

    • @wroughtironmgtow9558
      @wroughtironmgtow9558 4 роки тому +1

      Yes,somebody gets our downtown.
      San Antonio never took advantage of it's flat terrain where downtown lies now.The grid system would have alleviated so much traffic.

    • @omar7396
      @omar7396 2 роки тому

      @@wroughtironmgtow9558 have you been to Amsterdam or Central Copenhagen stroget, or many more beautiful city's that's old charming full of life that has super public transportation, safer for people, great for tourists. Instead of taking your car everywhere you can actually get to enjoy your city by foot. It's nothing wrong with a car centric road design, but don't think it's the only way out there. With good city planning there is less need for cars.

  • @JasonB808
    @JasonB808 4 роки тому +7

    Teacher: I give this school project a D-

  • @DoomFinger511
    @DoomFinger511 4 роки тому +5

    I feel like I learned just as much as I already knew before I watched this video

  • @YellowToomNook
    @YellowToomNook 4 роки тому +25

    Grids do show how the centralization of design by "technocrats" have dominated the city landscape, it's very efficient, and it's easy to expand and develop city limits.

  • @shadowrealmcitizen1149
    @shadowrealmcitizen1149 4 роки тому +6

    This video gave me Cornonavirus.

  • @dylanpamperin
    @dylanpamperin 3 роки тому +7

    A lot of the information brought up in this video sound like a stretch at best. Sure, the grid system has its inherent flaws, but alternatives such as cul-de-sacs found themselves causing more problems than they were designed to solve. I'm certain the use of the grid system was never intended for oppression among other claims - it was likely implemented for the same reasons its continued to be used; for its efficiency, space optimization, the ease to buy and/or sell plots, etc..

  • @BrendanPJames
    @BrendanPJames 4 роки тому +12

    The quality of cheddar videos, both the motion graphics and content, has taken such a nose dive

  • @shrgn
    @shrgn 4 роки тому +50

    In my opinion the European street system is much better and more characteristic than the American grid system. Suburbs are better distributed and you don’t have to entirely rely on a car if you want to get somewhere.

    • @Joe--
      @Joe-- 4 роки тому +2

      Even if the grid system was replaced relying on vehicles would still be over half the country including those in the cities.

    • @kuyaleinad4195
      @kuyaleinad4195 4 роки тому +3

      It’s probably because European road systems follow the most used paths used. They generally follow the flow of trade. The grid system ruins this natural flow as you have to navigate the grid and some roads will just end up being busier than others. By following the flow of trade, you’re more likely to predict which roads need to be built bigger and maybe require extra space to add a roundabout or something. With grids, you’re often not able to add a roundabout due to not having enough space 🤷‍♂️

    • @GoogelyeyesSaysHej
      @GoogelyeyesSaysHej 4 роки тому +2

      monny287 “most of those cities” is just not true. American public transit is pretty dismal with only a few exceptions like NYC

  • @radudeATL
    @radudeATL 4 роки тому +7

    I'm gonna blame this video on Coronavirus.
    There: I feel better now.

  • @ashleyzheng2244
    @ashleyzheng2244 4 роки тому +2

    I live in New Zealand. In Auckland, there is very little planning. The only so called planning that exists are zoning laws. All the roads are winding and turning all over the place and everything is a mess. It’s very hard to find a nice area where the roads are straight and the plots of land are nice and square.

  • @Aphfaneire
    @Aphfaneire 4 роки тому +8

    As a private sector planner in a country that does not do grids, I find this video fascinating and also slightly weak in that it does not fully explain the racist, colonial, globalisation or passive sunlight implications. Skirting the edge of a lot of issues without being firm in its conviction or statement of proven fact.
    One often overlooked fact of cities in North America is that most of the major cities in Canada are at the same latitude as Milan. During the brighter months, they get a lot more sun than northern parts of Western Europe or even several significant Asian cities.
    Ireland, by comparison, is further north than most of Canada's cities and has short winter days and long summer nights. Amazing long sunsets up to 1130 pm at the height of summer.
    The orientation of the grid to passive solar gain is an important consideration and organic urban forms, not necessarily suburbia, can be better suited to orientation buildings to make better use of this. It's far from perfect, and we have also adopted suburbia with no logical justification, but modern high-density developments are now required to be tested against measures such as the quantity of daylight and sunlight that a habitable room receives throughout the year, as well as the shadows a building casts.
    Permeability is more important for pedestrians and cyclists than a grid. Geography can not be flattened to man's will in every landscape. Respond to your environment, you can't control everything with geometry.

  • @arcana_4081
    @arcana_4081 4 роки тому +5

    Implementing both grids and diagonals streets could perhaps be the best choice, with wider oblique avenues cutting through a gridded layout. Thus providing a quick way to travel around the city while keeping it simple and logical for the development of neighbourhoods.

    • @Joe--
      @Joe-- 4 роки тому

      Upvoting this

    • @oliviastratton2169
      @oliviastratton2169 7 місяців тому

      This comment is more logical than anything said in this video.
      Breaking up grids with diagonal streets solves most of the major problems grid layouts have (urban canyon effect on wind, exhausting steep streets in hilly areas, and inefficient 45° travel).
      Grids inter-cut with diagonal streets are the best city design in my opinion.

  • @chadgunter4275
    @chadgunter4275 3 роки тому +4

    just shy of saying "Every serial killer that has ever lived drank water"

  • @hotelandelevator1236
    @hotelandelevator1236 Рік тому +4

    I like the grid because it’s easy to navigate even for tourists, because no matter what in a grid you can go anywhere by just making 1 turn (usually) With other systems you even the hexagon one you may have to make 3 or 4 and it’s less tourist friendly.

    • @hotelandelevator1236
      @hotelandelevator1236 Рік тому

      Ofcourse Salt Lake City was designed for cars there are good grids like Chicago, Baltimore, NYC and bad grids like LA and Salt Lake City and Miami made for cars. I think it’s more so the intentions behind the city planners than the system itself

  • @overthecounterbeanie
    @overthecounterbeanie 3 роки тому +5

    The narrator probably also thinks that Page 2 of Google search is the "deep web".

  • @shubhamarutwar9396
    @shubhamarutwar9396 4 роки тому +4

    I think in Chadar office, job of most of employees is to find problem in everything exists and attach history and some scientific terms and make it sound legit

  • @californialiberationmoveme180
    @californialiberationmoveme180 4 роки тому +3

    1. The video misses the traffic engineering flaw of the Grid: It routes traffic down streets meant to be quiet lanes, and allows drivers to try to use non-arterial streets as "short-cuts" when traffic congestion is high on main routes. Manhattan is the worse -- the Avenues move lots of vehicles, but the east-west streets are usually very narrow, and they get congested easily.
    2. San Francisco shows that the Grid is not a problem in itself. Many of the most spectacular views in San Francisco would not exist if the streets of S.F. followed surface topography. In particular, the cable cars would not exist today if San Francisco did not have so many streets that seem to run straight up steep slopes. This is all because San Francisco was laid out with various grid patterns running from the diagonal avenue called Market Street.

  • @colchiccoduvapassa
    @colchiccoduvapassa 3 роки тому +1

    I was born and live in Milano (Italy) that is a circular town. All roads goes toward the center connected by circular roads around the center. But I've been in many grid towns. What I like more in grid towns is that squares are really places dedicated to stop and relax, places where people can meet. In towns like my one they become crossroads good for cars but with no space for people.

  • @james5460
    @james5460 3 роки тому +2

    "The answer to the grid is... a bigger grid, like in Barcelona, Spain." Well, I'm glad we worked that out!

  • @avikalmann592
    @avikalmann592 Рік тому +3

    It does not matter how they started! What matters is how good or bad they are objectively now or will be in the future.

  • @afgor1088
    @afgor1088 2 роки тому +3

    imagine saying the grid is bad then cul-de-sacs, famously the single worst way to lay out a city, are an improvement

  • @AlessandroRodriguez
    @AlessandroRodriguez 4 роки тому +25

    3:00 I don't see the connection between Rome grid system and oppression, for one there is no overarching oppression system that engineer every aspect to oppress (with exception os socialism/comunism), second a cursory google search show that Rome itself wasn't much grid bases, chinese/Japanese/Aztec cities were more grid based or regular in that aspect.
    3:56: As far as I remember, the land was cheap, it was given away!, because you have to convince the people to go there in the middle of actual nowhere and "your grid system" is only because they have a POOR SURVEY OF THE LAND and have to give simple instructions to the people settling there.
    4:49: Still didn't explain why is bad, but trying to suggest that because is linked to colonization/centralization/globalization makes no sense, also I know a lot of left leaning people that will writhe in agony in that notion
    5:49: Is bad because in one language represents one thing that was in the past? that the argument.
    7:02: That US city planner of old doesn't understand aesthetic or ambiental concepts or even where the sun shines on the place, only makes them bad city planners for today standard point of view, that doesn't deem the grid system as bad.
    7:08: From all the problem the city grid has, you have to choose the most irrelevant one, check the Wikipedia for Hitchens's sake.
    10:00: So AGAIN, you say there nothing wrong with the grid planning method, but only the old city planner, where bad city planner in today standards, Imagine my shock .
    It seems that having so much in the production department, left nothing in the research department.

  • @matthewcollins4764
    @matthewcollins4764 3 роки тому +2

    I just wanted to see the negative traffic and living implications of living in a gridded city which I have seen Americans and Europeans be in disgust about but now I guess I know how the grid got cancelled by Cheddar.

  • @pbldiaz28
    @pbldiaz28 4 роки тому +44

    The script was well written, but try to not make it sound like you are reading straight off one please, it's the dryest delivery you could give...

  • @crystaldrano
    @crystaldrano 4 роки тому +6

    This is perhaps the weakest argument I’ve ever seen. It has got to be an April fools joke.

  • @JarlFrank
    @JarlFrank 4 роки тому +1

    As a visitor, I find gridded cities harder to navigate than cities with irregular layout.
    Non-gridded city: "Ah, the place I'm looking for is close to that snake-shaped road, and I am at this weird squiggle of a road, and to get there I must follow this curved road."
    Gridded city: "Uuuh all the roads on this map look exactly the same, where am I????"

  • @vicherd
    @vicherd 4 роки тому +2

    I don't know why the volume of Cheddar videos are so low. I'm at max and barely hear the audio. Using a Samsung bought 2019.

  • @palmespilates1294
    @palmespilates1294 3 роки тому +3

    Cheddar: Have you apologized for your city grid yet?

  • @JazzRastaf
    @JazzRastaf 4 роки тому +9

    „geometric oppression”, gimme a break! 🤣

  • @TheBaconVanMan
    @TheBaconVanMan 3 роки тому +2

    I will never get those ten and a half minutes back :(

  • @farhansiddiqui1280
    @farhansiddiqui1280 4 роки тому +1

    The biggest problem with a grid like Manhattan is that you have to stop every thirty seconds at a bloody traffic light.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 роки тому +5

    My capital isn’t like a grid, my grandpa knew how to rebuild a city and make it amazing

  • @fun2fun2fun
    @fun2fun2fun 4 роки тому +3

    Grid city planning was first used in INDUS valley civilization... Around 5000 years ago...

  • @Ascertivus
    @Ascertivus 2 роки тому +1

    This video's title contradicts some of its content. It does indeed highlight the pitfalls of the grid system, but also lists clear advantages. Every city plan has its pros and cons. This is one of them.

  • @KuraIthys
    @KuraIthys 3 роки тому +1

    I find grids hard to navigate, especially when there are tall buildings everywhere, because you lose any sense of uniqueness.
    Everything looks like everything else.
    You struggle to tell where you are, or where you should be, because everything looks more or less the same.
    Granted you are less likely to end up in a dead end, but...
    It makes it hard to navigate intuitively. Instead you have to resort to street names and maps, and other factors that have relatively little to do with what's actually physically present in a city...

  • @JamesRoth
    @JamesRoth 3 роки тому +3

    The surprising problem with hats. Colonists all wore hats. It's also worth noting "hat" is shorthand for "hate."

  • @jamesbcfc
    @jamesbcfc 3 роки тому +3

    One thing I noticed when I visited NYC was how slow it was to walk anywhere. You were crossing a road full of traffic every two minutes which I would find infuriating if I lived there. Also, it looks like hell to drive in with so many traffic lights! I loved the Superblocks in Barcelona however, and it felt as though you could breathe and relax much, much more.

    • @marchernandez4596
      @marchernandez4596 3 роки тому

      Because NY is extremely populated and public transport in US cities is not very good, even in NY

  • @arthursoares610
    @arthursoares610 4 роки тому +2

    Expectation: A video about traffic inefficiency on grid system.
    Reality: Grid is a Roman evil invention

  • @EBProductions
    @EBProductions 4 роки тому +1

    I honestly cant imagine living in a neverending grid you cant escape.

  • @trevorclive
    @trevorclive 3 роки тому +3

    "Evil people used grids therefore the problem is the grids." -Cheddar
    I couldn't make it through the whole video. The stupidity was more than I could bear. Great job, Cheddar.

    • @leandrotami
      @leandrotami 2 роки тому

      Exactly what I felt. I had to stop it, read the comments to verify if the world had indeed gone mad, then returned to the video but only for a while because my kidney just cannot handle so much stupidity all of the sudden

  • @DanielFranco24
    @DanielFranco24 3 роки тому +3

    Only in city builder games (like SimCity or Cities Skylines) the grid is the best layout because it takes advantage of much space as possible to build, but this is because buildings always grow in square lots, unlike real life where buildings can grow in any space, adapting to the limits of the lot (curves, close angles, roundabouts, etc)

    • @oliviastratton2169
      @oliviastratton2169 7 місяців тому

      Square buildings are the cheapest to build in real life, though. So square lots are the best way to maximize development in real cities too.

  • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
    @user-gu9yq5sj7c Рік тому +1

    7:05 Actually, I think cul-de-sacs are harder and longer to travel on and navigate because of dead ends and getting lost more.
    7:14 Getting lost in a non-grid city makes me more anxious then it looking monotonous. Beautiful and diverse looking buildings, more nature, walkability, bikeability, less cars, more mixed zoning would suffice, are more important, and are lacking.

  • @josecampechano6136
    @josecampechano6136 3 роки тому +2

    I thought they were going to actually talk about the grid´s problem. i was like wait... what?

  • @BabsW
    @BabsW 4 роки тому +4

    I live in London now and I wish it was gridded. I often miss the address I'm looking for and end up walking in circles.

  • @alexanderpozdnyakov3189
    @alexanderpozdnyakov3189 4 роки тому +5

    The corona pandemic could have begun, spread and ended during each of the looooooong pauses between each sentence...

    • @martinkunev9911
      @martinkunev9911 4 роки тому

      You can watch on 1.25 speed. Really useful for most videos.

  • @chrischampagne9469
    @chrischampagne9469 3 роки тому +1

    "She concludes that the grid is not inherently evil, but it's strong historical association with colonization, centralization, and globalization, gives pause for thought." And the thought should probably be that this is an example of when correlation does not equal causation. Throughout history the conquerors have tended to be the civilizations with more advanced weapons and economic production. That all correlates with generally more advanced technology, including more advanced urban planning. Thus you will see a similar correlation with a large range of different technologies.

  • @ScooterinAB
    @ScooterinAB 2 роки тому +2

    I do like the superblock idea. I had an idea similar to this many years ago, where existing residential streets could be closed and converted into park space so people could actually go outside and see their neighbours, with local traffic being diverted through allies. Basically reverse backyards with a large greenbelt on each block. But the idea of more densified urban spaces that have a lot of amenities in them is interesting.

    • @LogicAndReason2025
      @LogicAndReason2025 2 роки тому

      Hopefully we can someday put all the roads all underground. But the superblock is a good start.

    • @LukewarmFoxxo
      @LukewarmFoxxo 2 роки тому

      @@LogicAndReason2025 eh, I'd say we just get rid of the car altogether in cities (apart from special cases like emergency services or whatever).

  • @arxvphoto809
    @arxvphoto809 4 роки тому +12

    I love the grid.

    • @Floedekage
      @Floedekage 4 роки тому

      And that's okay too. 💚

  • @BvousBrainSystems
    @BvousBrainSystems 4 роки тому +9

    Glad I kept watching to the end. The association between the grid and authoritarianism/colonialism seemed to me a tenuous philosophical link that wouldn't be worth calling a "problem", but better points were made later in the video.
    Watch the whole thing before downvoting people, it's not as cringe as the first minutes make it look

    • @AlessandroRodriguez
      @AlessandroRodriguez 4 роки тому +1

      ok ok I will try, I was 3 minutes in and almost quitting in this nonsense.

    • @chronoflect
      @chronoflect 4 роки тому +6

      Just because the last few minutes are relevant doesn't justify the pointless drivel you have to watch to get to it.

    • @Joe--
      @Joe-- 4 роки тому +4

      The video still deserves a downvote even after watching the whole thing... Their research & reasoning has faltered greatly -let alone the quality of the video; perhaps due to the prolonged isolation?

    • @BvousBrainSystems
      @BvousBrainSystems 4 роки тому +1

      @@chronoflect There's definitely a writing issue, what they put at the beginning of the video should have been final thoughts. Still, just because there's this structure issue or some dubious claims doesn't make the whole video worthless.

    • @shero113
      @shero113 4 роки тому +2

      I almost gave up (that awful voice!) but watched to the end, and then decided that it's truly awful, with little to sway me otherwise.

  • @Juhrmee
    @Juhrmee 2 роки тому +1

    This is such a good April fools joke omg

  • @christopherloveless5254
    @christopherloveless5254 2 роки тому

    As soon as I clicked the link, I knew beforehand I would soon learn how any type of effort to organize an urban area would all boil down to racism. Thank you for not letting me down Cheddar!

  • @jdfullerton5187
    @jdfullerton5187 4 роки тому +3

    9:50
    *Judge Dredd had joined the chat*

  • @RabbiSamGaming
    @RabbiSamGaming 4 роки тому +5

    Everyone freaking out doesnt realize this is an april fools joke

  • @musqul8566
    @musqul8566 Рік тому +2

    Did seriously, for 10 minutes, tried to convince me that grid cities are evil.

  • @mechailreydon3784
    @mechailreydon3784 3 роки тому +1

    You see kids, this is why you don’t start writing your essay the night before it’s due.