I love this knife. I enjoy making file knives because they are simple, easy, and you don’t get burnt out as quick while making these. Also I think this might be one of your best looking knife profiles as well. Great vid!
I think that knife is a beauty! And I will have to make one of my own with some an old flat file :) Thank you so much for this, showing how we can make a great kife with simple metal cutting and grinding and a toaster oven. Was thinking of buying a boot knife, however this video has given me the confidence to make it which is both less expensive (very important at the moment) and far more satisfying :)
I would have liked it if you had have told us what temperature you heated it up in the oven and for how long. The knife turned out really good tho and I loved the look of the old file grooves.
Awesome Work. You could shave with that blade! In winter northern states it would be cold to hold-but you could para cord the handle as a seasonal option
after seeing you made such a beautiful knife from an old file! I now want to try and make one myself and give new life to an old file 😁 keep on making videos because they are super good and inspiring 👍🏼 best regards from Denmark
Nicely done! Might have to sacrifice one of my rasps and try this before I get my forge. I’m just worried about over heating when cutting with a grinder.
It is also a good idea to make sure that your file isn't case hardened before you go through the effort of profiling the blade and grinding the bevels.
I think you made an extreme good, simple and beautifull knife! I made the experience, that the angle grinder and the forming with the belt grinder stresses the metal so enourmes, that it would be better to harden the steel again. You showed and mentioned, that you cool it down... but is that enough? Is the blade chipping or did it get dull fast? That would realy interest me.
So you just worked the file in its original hardened state and then tempered it? I have a bunch of old fairer rasps and plan on making knives out of them. Should I anneal them first? If I do anneal I’m assuming I have to re heat treat. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Awesome shape and vid man! I got this gear but no she'd. Floor covering then laundry shed I feel... Thanx for the inspiration, and again, super nice knife!
That's a great question! It tempers the steel and makes it less brittle. Files are a little to hard in their normal " file" state. If you drop a file on concrete, it can snap or break. We temper the hardness down a little bit to make it more durable and less brittle.
Very good video! Very informative. Good work! I think I'll give this a try! Where do you find a file as wide and thick as the one in the video? I have looked everywhere! Thanks!
The tempering process is to make the blade less brittle, a blade fresh out of the quench will shatter under enough pressure or on impact with a hard surface. You want the knife to bend not break. In the case of a file knife, you temper it down to below 60 HRC this one was about 58-59 HRC after the temper.
Wouldnt it make sense to do the tempering from the beginning so it brings down the hardness slightly before all that grinding and shaping instead of after?
The trick to avoid any damage on the heat treatment, isn't just to spil some water on the steel, but to also leave it to cool of. The water helps but without the amount of time, the steel needs to cool off, water alone doesn't do the trick. I could be wrong, for some people, but that's just my opinion.
The point is to cut slow, if you are rushing and cutting to fast with to much pressure then you will get the steel hot. Also, your really only need to be careful while cutting near the blade edge. The steel was steel cool enough to touch while cutting/grinding near the blade edge.
@@theriversexperience9383 That's true! First of all, let me say, I didn't critisize the job on this video! Most people I've watched, all work like that! It's only me that I just wait a bit more,for the water to do it's job. That just makes me more confident! You're right on the "near the blade edge part" that's the where we all have to be more careful, than anything else! That's also where I find out that we have to be a perfectionist about anything that has to do with that part! Good grinding job, Keep it up!
Questioned on this matter. Could you run compressed Air line blowing on the material while cutting to avoid material overheating to avoid damage?? Or would that still just be too much of a temperature contrast?
I am trying to make one out of a file as well it's just not turning out as nice . Try to Upload a picture in the comment but it will not do so. Always a very good looking knife that you make.
Nice blade great job as always. But for the love of God put the guard back on that grinder. Working around metal my entire working carrier iv seen some bad stuff happen with guard less grinders
The crazy thing is that I've seen the same accidents happen from grinders with and without guards. They are more helpful with directing sparks than stopping projectiles. I did stone work for 7 years and none of the attachments were the appropriate size to fit the guard back on. The guard for this grinder was lost a long time ago. Now, I'm not saying that they aren't good to have though, if someone has one then I would suggest that they use it as well. Thanks again for the compliment John.
@@theriversexperience9383 I do agree in very few applications attachments can be more dangerous than useful but it's good to have them on using cut off wheels it's not so much about redirecting projectiles or sparks it about redirecting the disk when they shatter or accidentally cut your hand if your slips. Studies do show with the guard on while using cut off wheel it will save you from injury more than with it off and I have seen it first hand. That's all I'm saying at least if anything get another grinder just for cut off wheel I hate like hell to see yea get hurt. Keep up the good work be safe can't wait for the next one.
Old files = best files You want to find the really old ones as a lot of new ones are just case hardened mild steel and quite awful. I guess you can run out and buy a new Nicholson file or something and cut it up, but that's sort of the very expensive way of going about ruining your first good file :) Always worth looking at car boot sales, rural markets, 2nd hand stores for old tools anyway and just grab a whole rusty tool box of clapped out files for 5 bucks. The ok-ish ones you can make sharp again with an acid pickle solution to put the edge on, then use the other for your experiments.
It's a knife maker thing. A lot of knives are designed for different uses and some get longer blades while some get shorter blades. I've made knives with blades that are 3x the handle length and knives with blades that are half the length of the handle. Thanks for the question and for watching.
That turned out sweet my friend. I would love to have one like that for an everyday carry. Nicely done.
I love this knife. I enjoy making file knives because they are simple, easy, and you don’t get burnt out as quick while making these. Also I think this might be one of your best looking knife profiles as well. Great vid!
What you mean burnt out
He means sick or bored of
Guess I will be looking for old worn out files at the garage sells!
Awesome work , giving old stuff a new life and purpose
Cool one verry Nice Design super texture from the file 🍀🍀🍀 nice nice nice 😊
I've been wanting to try this, never made a knife before. I think a thumb notch on the top would be useful
I think that knife is a beauty! And I will have to make one of my own with some an old flat file :) Thank you so much for this, showing how we can make a great kife with simple metal cutting and grinding and a toaster oven.
Was thinking of buying a boot knife, however this video has given me the confidence to make it which is both less expensive (very important at the moment) and far more satisfying :)
Good Stuff young man. Files are perfect for knifes and daggers, even a nice sword. 👍
Thank you!
Fine job, bro! That balance is perfect.
Thank you!
That's really nice! I was thinking of trying my hand at making a dagger out of a file at some point.
I would have liked it if you had have told us what temperature you heated it up in the oven and for how long. The knife turned out really good tho and I loved the look of the old file grooves.
Awesome Work. You could shave with that blade! In winter northern states it would be cold to hold-but you could para cord the handle as a seasonal option
easily one of the most beautiful knives ive ever seen. Great job you are insanely talented
Your free hand grinding is amazing to watch Erick !
Thanks Steven!
Looks awesome, great job. I'm getting ready to retire in a few weeks and I'll be looking for some hobbies and this interests me.
after seeing you made such a beautiful knife from an old file! I now want to try and make one myself and give new life to an old file 😁 keep on making videos because they are super good and inspiring 👍🏼 best regards from Denmark
Looks really cool! And simple enough that it's tempting to try making one!
Very perfect, nice product. Will U put a wooden handle,or its all done, and ready to use.
No wooden handle on this one. It's meant to be a light weight minimalist knife.
WONDERFUL, I have no words, always super perfect and unique precise product, wonderful work and video, well done and good luck, respect from old BG.
Well done!
Nice. I’ve always liked the look of file knives.
Let's do it to it!
Beautiful knife. Will try one of my own.
Good video didnt get the temp on the oven though. I will try to make one of these soon thanks.
It was 375° f.
Nothin like some good ASMR sounds of the angle grinder while I clean my shop. 😂
lol, only the best of the ASMR's.
@@theriversexperience9383 😂😂😂
Excellent job bud
Thank you!
Awesome! Now to go file hunting...
Thanks Jim!
Marvellous work. Great craftsmanship!!!
Nicely done! Might have to sacrifice one of my rasps and try this before I get my forge. I’m just worried about over heating when cutting with a grinder.
Just take it slow and keep it cool.
It is also a good idea to make sure that your file isn't case hardened before you go through the effort of profiling the blade and grinding the bevels.
Rasps are not heat treated the same as files mate.may not be hard enough.
Beautiful knife. I was thinking about trying that. Ive seen a few but you knife has a nice style to it. Thanks
Thank you Will.
Thats awesome!
Awesome vid, thanks!
I like this great job 👏
Beautiful.
Thank you!
That looks awesome !!! Great job.
отличная работа. всех благ мастеру.
Very good 👍
Awesome skill.
Thank you!
Beautiful work!
Thank you very much!
I think you made an extreme good, simple and beautifull knife!
I made the experience, that the angle grinder and the forming with the belt grinder stresses the metal so enourmes, that it would be better to harden the steel again.
You showed and mentioned, that you cool it down... but is that enough?
Is the blade chipping or did it get dull fast? That would realy interest me.
So you just worked the file in its original hardened state and then tempered it? I have a bunch of old fairer rasps and plan on making knives out of them. Should I anneal them first? If I do anneal I’m assuming I have to re heat treat. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Yup, if you anneal them, you will need to re-heat treat them. Treat files just like 1095 if you go that route.
Unless you are a knifemaker, there is no easy way to make a knife. That being said, go for it! It is absolutely worth it.
Very nice I really like the style of the blade great job
Great job 👊😎
Awesome shape and vid man! I got this gear but no she'd. Floor covering then laundry shed I feel... Thanx for the inspiration, and again, super nice knife!
Awesome blade!!!
Thanks!
Great video. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
That’s a very cool knife!
That looks very nice.
😊bellissimo
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5:34 What does the 400 degree bake do?
That's a great question! It tempers the steel and makes it less brittle. Files are a little to hard in their normal " file" state. If you drop a file on concrete, it can snap or break. We temper the hardness down a little bit to make it more durable and less brittle.
PERFECT !!!
Very nicy and cool knife💪💪💪
Excellent
Thanks!
Very good video! Very informative. Good work! I think I'll give this a try! Where do you find a file as wide and thick as the one in the video? I have looked everywhere! Thanks!
Enjoyed watching you make this
Thank you!
you are the best bro
Nice, like the smaller size
Cok iyi. Tebrikler
You should do a how to on a cowboy bull cutter out of a rasp
awesome !
Nice!!!
Sooo gud I like ur work
I love your knife stiles show me more
Great looking piece of work my question is how long does the edge hold up on the files thanks always enjoy your videos
They last for a long time. Most files are 1095 high carbon steel.
Well atleast the files that I use, old school Nicholson files.
Hello , great videos! I’m new to knife making,have a question, why temper knife if you did soften steel? I hope my question makes sense, thank you,
The tempering process is to make the blade less brittle, a blade fresh out of the quench will shatter under enough pressure or on impact with a hard surface. You want the knife to bend not break. In the case of a file knife, you temper it down to below 60 HRC this one was about 58-59 HRC after the temper.
Love it!
Thanks!!
How long did it take you to grind the edge ?
Wouldnt it make sense to do the tempering from the beginning so it brings down the hardness slightly before all that grinding and shaping instead of after?
Nice !
Thank you!
I like it way more than I thought I would. How big was the file to begin with?
I'll measure it and let you know.
👍👍 Great job 👌
Super
Excelente trabalho
What is the tool you used to scribe the bevel?
What do I think? Nice... Very, very nice......
I love it just subscribed looking forward to checking out other videos
Thanks for the sub!
Slick
Do you have a downloadable template for that knife?
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Where i can download its template
Your grinding skills are great Sir
Thank you John!
Is this for sale? Absolutely beautiful❤
Where can I buy a file knife?
I have Them for sale on my website TheRiversExperience.com
Respirator!
Why is the leather stop belt good for?
The trick to avoid any damage on the heat treatment, isn't just to spil some water on the steel, but to also leave it to cool of. The water helps but without the amount of time, the steel needs to cool off, water alone doesn't do the trick.
I could be wrong, for some people, but that's just my opinion.
The point is to cut slow, if you are rushing and cutting to fast with to much pressure then you will get the steel hot. Also, your really only need to be careful while cutting near the blade edge. The steel was steel cool enough to touch while cutting/grinding near the blade edge.
@@theriversexperience9383 That's true! First of all, let me say, I didn't critisize the job on this video! Most people I've watched, all work like that! It's only me that I just wait a bit more,for the water to do it's job. That just makes me more confident!
You're right on the "near the blade edge part" that's the where we all have to be more careful, than anything else! That's also where I find out that we have to be a perfectionist about anything that has to do with that part! Good grinding job, Keep it up!
Questioned on this matter. Could you run compressed Air line blowing on the material while cutting to avoid material overheating to avoid damage?? Or would that still just be too much of a temperature contrast?
I am trying to make one out of a file as well it's just not turning out as nice . Try to Upload a picture in the comment but it will not do so. Always a very good looking knife that you make.
çok güzel
Nice blade great job as always. But for the love of God put the guard back on that grinder. Working around metal my entire working carrier iv seen some bad stuff happen with guard less grinders
The crazy thing is that I've seen the same accidents happen from grinders with and without guards. They are more helpful with directing sparks than stopping projectiles. I did stone work for 7 years and none of the attachments were the appropriate size to fit the guard back on. The guard for this grinder was lost a long time ago. Now, I'm not saying that they aren't good to have though, if someone has one then I would suggest that they use it as well. Thanks again for the compliment John.
@@theriversexperience9383 I do agree in very few applications attachments can be more dangerous than useful but it's good to have them on using cut off wheels it's not so much about redirecting projectiles or sparks it about redirecting the disk when they shatter or accidentally cut your hand if your slips. Studies do show with the guard on while using cut off wheel it will save you from injury more than with it off and I have seen it first hand. That's all I'm saying at least if anything get another grinder just for cut off wheel I hate like hell to see yea get hurt. Keep up the good work be safe can't wait for the next one.
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How much sir ...?? I need one
Now for a sheath made out of fire hose.
Should be easy to make a great paring knife
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That came out nice. Almost be a shame to put a handle on it
👏👏👏👏...
Old files = best files
You want to find the really old ones as a lot of new ones are just case hardened mild steel and quite awful. I guess you can run out and buy a new Nicholson file or something and cut it up, but that's sort of the very expensive way of going about ruining your first good file :) Always worth looking at car boot sales, rural markets, 2nd hand stores for old tools anyway and just grab a whole rusty tool box of clapped out files for 5 bucks. The ok-ish ones you can make sharp again with an acid pickle solution to put the edge on, then use the other for your experiments.
why are your handles bigger than the blades? it looks weird
It's a knife maker thing. A lot of knives are designed for different uses and some get longer blades while some get shorter blades. I've made knives with blades that are 3x the handle length and knives with blades that are half the length of the handle. Thanks for the question and for watching.
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Dude.