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  • Conservator Hayley Tomlinson tackles cleaning a Joshua Reynolds painting, 'Captain Robert Orme'.
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    00:00-00:34 Introduction
    00:35-01:36 What is the story in this painting?
    01:37-02:53 Reynolds' experimental style of painting
    02:54-05:45 How do we clean this difficult picture?
    05:46-05:59 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 137

  • @msb5775
    @msb5775 2 роки тому +120

    So basically, conservators are chemists and historians in one. Absolutely talented

  • @dawnmichelle4403
    @dawnmichelle4403 2 роки тому +926

    I'd love to see the restoration/conservation in its entirety! I enjoy Julian Baumgartner's conservation videos, and it would be interesting to see how his processes differ from yours.

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 роки тому +238

      Hi Dawn, the conservation process for this painting is still happening but we wanted to show the early stages here! But we do have a whole playlist showing how our Conservation team work here: ua-cam.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

    • @dawnmichelle4403
      @dawnmichelle4403 2 роки тому +44

      @@nationalgallery thank you!

  • @humdinger5701
    @humdinger5701 2 роки тому +3

    I'm so glad we have people like Hayley. It's because of people like her the rest of us have the chance to experience and enjoy our history.

  • @pamelahofman1785
    @pamelahofman1785 2 роки тому +150

    Cleaning paintings has always been a subject of interest to me because it seems so delicate and difficult to do without damaging the original artwork. I'm in awe of Hayley's expertise. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @johncooper6413
    @johncooper6413 2 роки тому +32

    Very clear and informative. Forgive a military pedant, but Captain Orme was carrying a despatch about GENERAL Braddock’s defeat and death.

  • @Pollyalba
    @Pollyalba 2 роки тому +109

    I love her clear and calm way to deliver informations, it was very interesting and relaxing at the same time!

  • @njlillycline
    @njlillycline 2 роки тому +59

    I have a copy of this portrait; Capt. Orme and I share a great-grandfather, Col. Ninian Beall, and so I felt compelled to commemorate him by adding him to my collection! It’s large, but not this large. Thanks for all you do to preserve these beautiful works of art.

  • @coreygrua3271
    @coreygrua3271 2 роки тому +143

    One marvels at such knowledge, both of an acknowledged master and the methods needed to preserve his masterpieces. I am full of wonder.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP 2 роки тому +2

      Why are paintings by Reynolds so difficult to clean? | Art Restoration | National Gallery 2.3.22 1648pm peace in our time, or so they said....

  • @Siansonea
    @Siansonea 2 роки тому +394

    Is there a way to determine if the varnish sandwiched between paint layers is actually between original paint layers? Could it be that the varnish boundary is the original paint layer, and the paint above it was added later to "improve" the painting by conservators? How would you make that distinction?

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 роки тому +366

      Hi there, great question. It’s true that a varnish layer between paint layers could be a 'boundary' between the original paint and not original layers added at some point in the 'life of the painting'. So, we analyse the various layers checking the pigments and binding media, as often the materials used in later restorations are different from those used by the artist. Sometimes we’re even able to date a retouching layer based on the presence of pigments we know were introduced at a specific time in history!

  • @stvp68
    @stvp68 2 роки тому +4

    The visuals of the fluorescence are very helpful

  • @peterolsen6454
    @peterolsen6454 2 роки тому +10

    One of the clearest explanations (visuals and their insertion) I have seen in a long time.

  • @RamadaArtist
    @RamadaArtist 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who has a degree in painting and was considering studying art conservation before settling on fine arts, I both appreciate this explanation of the process, and the fact that whenever you're wearing the magnifying glasses and talking to the camera you lean your head back like you're just a totally chill dude-bro. Not at all the intentional vibe of the rest of the content, but aesthetically I enjoy the juxtaposition of themes.

  • @ssutherland2526
    @ssutherland2526 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you Hayley for taking the time to clearly explain the conservation process and challenges presented to the conservator.

  • @cstz
    @cstz 2 роки тому +50

    I loved how the information was presented in this video, very clear and easy to understand. Great as always!

  • @dumoulin11
    @dumoulin11 2 роки тому +8

    What a fascinating job this must be.

  • @MatteBlacke
    @MatteBlacke Рік тому

    I find this to be extremely interesting. I had never considered the complexities of art conservation. Fascinating.

  • @MaxTSanches
    @MaxTSanches 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing the amount of chemistry that an art conserbator needs to know. :)

  • @imaginaryguide1895
    @imaginaryguide1895 2 роки тому +8

    Excited to see how this painting's restoration progresses!

  • @mariacolon107
    @mariacolon107 2 роки тому +28

    I had a similar situation with a painting where we found that a mixture of 20% acetone with 80% MEK worked quite well, without leaving any residue nor affecting the pictorial image. However, we did have to swell the top varnish layer, leave it to dry and then come back at it again just to be cautious of the resins that were found inside the paint layer. Hope it all works out with this piece!

  • @Missmethinksalot1
    @Missmethinksalot1 2 роки тому

    Hayley Tomlinson spoke so so well. Instantly subscribed!

  • @mynameistaken99
    @mynameistaken99 2 роки тому

    I could listen to her talk all day!

  • @rembvanrijn
    @rembvanrijn 2 роки тому +10

    As ever, fascinating. Brings an over-familiar work into a new context.

  • @Danny........
    @Danny........ 2 роки тому +5

    I started watching Baumgartner restoration a while back. Love his videos. I'm so glad to have found yours. These videos are so interesting. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @GaitaPonto
    @GaitaPonto 2 роки тому +8

    pause @ 5:41 and see the "X" structure that holds the painting matching the lines of the image almost perfectly.

  • @vintagelvr4381
    @vintagelvr4381 2 роки тому +15

    absolutely fascinating. I had no idea of the history of varnishes and how different they were. Excellent video and very educational, thank you.

  • @MicaRayan
    @MicaRayan 2 роки тому +2

    What a painstaking process there is. Thankfully, with much skills and experiences it eventually giving ultimate justice to the painting at last.

  • @pairoleggs
    @pairoleggs 2 роки тому +2

    i love how baumgartner fans have been summoned to this video

  • @LumenPsycho
    @LumenPsycho 2 роки тому

    The patience this kind of job requires is tremendous.

  • @Thirdeyeddeer
    @Thirdeyeddeer 2 роки тому +11

    Arh this is my biggest dream to become a conservator, and I absolutely adore this video! So admireable to hear her knowledge about the art and all the methods! This inspire me even more to finish my education. amazing video :-)

  • @Raeptree
    @Raeptree 2 роки тому

    I’m related to Sir Joshua Reynolds, loved seeing this on my suggested vids on UA-cam

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 2 роки тому +7

    Fascinating! To have to remove four layers must mean this will be a long task - I'd be very interested to see the end and what could and couldn't be removed of the old varnish.

  • @virginiaensinck5828
    @virginiaensinck5828 10 місяців тому

    What an awesome and complicated work!! 😯👏👏

  • @cree8vision
    @cree8vision 2 роки тому +3

    Absolutely fascinating about all the different technologies involved in cleaning and restoring.

  • @what2watchyt
    @what2watchyt 2 роки тому

    So natural and smooth the way she works.

  • @leoren2685
    @leoren2685 2 роки тому +2

    Great presentation and the graphics really helped to understand the issues. Bravo!

  • @DrewWasMe
    @DrewWasMe 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating work.

  • @Nichomachean5
    @Nichomachean5 2 роки тому

    That... was... fascinating.

  • @hshwhitten
    @hshwhitten 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely astonishing.

  • @susanhepburn6040
    @susanhepburn6040 2 роки тому +12

    Fascinating as always! Thank you very much.

  • @chrishoo2
    @chrishoo2 2 роки тому

    What a job & a half! Total nightmare- I’m in awe of you & your work.

  • @saf1819
    @saf1819 2 роки тому +7

    Beautiful work.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP 2 роки тому

      Why are paintings by Reynolds so difficult to clean? | Art Restoration | National Gallery 1652PM 2.3.22 no idea why i imagined klimt to be looking at pain under a microscope to garner ideas for his style of oeuvre...

  • @jourdainjardin846
    @jourdainjardin846 2 роки тому +7

    I wish these videos could be longer. And more of them. I’m sure you would get a lot of views and earn ad revenue. Best wishes

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 роки тому +5

      Hi Jourdain, you're in luck - we have a whole playlist from our Conservation studios! ua-cam.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

  • @SimonGardiner-bj3pq
    @SimonGardiner-bj3pq 17 днів тому

    I cleaned what was probably a preparatory sketch for a major Reynolds portrait? Tomlinson has very accurately described the problems with Reynolds. He loved to saturate each layer of paint he applied, with a varnish. This results in several layers of paint - separated by a much more soluble - or fugitive - varnish. Thus a number of his works have been easily 'overcleaned' in previous centuries. (This does not seem to be the situation with the better quality paintings in the NG! )To add insult to injury, layers of later overpaint were applied in order to 'replace what had been lost in the cleaning! I had to distinguish between the overpaint and Reynold's paint - without dissolving away the varnish between the Reynold's paint layers. Tomlinson's technique is therefore very sound, and requires great skill.

  • @Am3lia77
    @Am3lia77 2 роки тому +2

    I've been studying these restoration techniques at uni so this is very interesting to see 😯

  • @jenniferholden9397
    @jenniferholden9397 2 роки тому

    You are doing a great job Hayley, I just wish it was me, but I chose nursing instead until I wrecked my back, badly. The knowledge and expertise you have is phenomenal. Well done. Oh and another reason I live in north Lancashire 12 miles away from Cumbria and 10 miles from Yorkshire so it would have taken a lot to leave my family and my home. 🌹

  • @Ben-eo5vd
    @Ben-eo5vd 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic overview & explanation!

  • @celynnec
    @celynnec 2 роки тому

    i thought this was about ryan reynolds, was not disappointed by the restoration.

  • @amymcnamara8467
    @amymcnamara8467 2 роки тому

    Fascinating!!

  • @amolarteraffaella1412
    @amolarteraffaella1412 2 роки тому +3

    Stupendo. Grazie.

  • @georgegasmatron1
    @georgegasmatron1 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating knowledge.

  • @hay_bail1
    @hay_bail1 2 роки тому +1

    What an informative video! Great quality!

  • @laurinbartel640
    @laurinbartel640 Рік тому

    Fascinating

  • @victorg2217
    @victorg2217 2 роки тому +1

    Super fascinating video. Thank you so much for this great channel.

  • @redparrot9489
    @redparrot9489 2 роки тому +1

    Love the picture timeline graphics.

  • @jailyneespana3582
    @jailyneespana3582 2 роки тому

    i was very privileged to take a class as an undergrad at the Museum of Fine Arts Houston and see first hand some of the behind the scenes of conservatorship. So fascinating!

  • @TrevorTrottier
    @TrevorTrottier 2 роки тому +1

    This lady could have a weekly show.

  • @kevinnapier8996
    @kevinnapier8996 2 роки тому

    #Excellent #Art #Conservation #Education!! #WellDone #Media #Team!!

  • @artecarlaprates
    @artecarlaprates 8 місяців тому

    Excelente trabalho, parabéns!

  • @ladyliddie7721
    @ladyliddie7721 2 роки тому +18

    As a kid wanting to go into the art field, I thought "ew conservatorship?" But now I'm like "wow, conservatorship!" Still not sure I could do it, but it's absolutely amazing

  • @maxdon2001
    @maxdon2001 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!

  • @moritzbruckner837
    @moritzbruckner837 2 роки тому

    that was super interesting and I heard about stuff I never even knew. thanks! great job!

  • @LesediLoFi
    @LesediLoFi 2 роки тому

    I never knew this existed. Just wow, excellent

  • @paulcook7986
    @paulcook7986 2 роки тому

    Such patience.

  • @elmohm
    @elmohm 2 роки тому +1

    this was so much fun thank you

  • @chrisarchibald7580
    @chrisarchibald7580 2 роки тому

    Omg thank you,been having this problem!

  • @purplecleo
    @purplecleo 2 роки тому +2

    Love this person's knowledge for her craft, REALLY neat!

  • @joecool7035
    @joecool7035 2 роки тому +3

    interesting insight Thanks a lot

  • @ruthjames9278
    @ruthjames9278 2 роки тому +3

    amazing as always i would love your job

    • @zoefoster1873
      @zoefoster1873 2 роки тому +1

      Me too! I suspect you have to be good at chemistry to do it, though, which would rule me out!

  • @kmaguire7161
    @kmaguire7161 2 роки тому

    This was so interesting. I love Reynolds. Mrs. Siddons as the Tragic Muse is my favorite painting.

  • @SirWussiePants
    @SirWussiePants 2 роки тому +2

    I believe Maxfield Parrish intentionally varnished between each paint layer to get that glow that he is so known for. I assume conserving his paintings would also be an ordeal?

  • @germanoscheller5095
    @germanoscheller5095 2 роки тому

    very cool

  • @neureeves
    @neureeves 2 роки тому +1

    AWESOME ! :)

  • @nemumami
    @nemumami 2 роки тому

    Darn you Reynolds!!

  • @debrascott8775
    @debrascott8775 2 роки тому +8

    I'd love more of the actual cleaning to go with the talk.

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 роки тому +6

      Hi Debra, the cleaning is still underway but we wanted to show you some of the earlier processes that take place during the conservation of our paintings. If you'd like to see more from our Conservation team, you can have a watch of our playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

  • @The_Butler_Did_It
    @The_Butler_Did_It 2 роки тому +1

    Robert Orme "Look, I've got this really important message to deliver, are you going to be long with the painting?"
    Reynolds "Just a few more days until I've done the preparatory sketches. Now please stand still"
    Robert Orme "I wish they'd hurry up and invent photography"

  • @ankavoskuilen1725
    @ankavoskuilen1725 2 роки тому

    Please keep us informed!

  • @fj103
    @fj103 2 роки тому +4

    A nightmare to restore! :)

  • @balmaaaaa
    @balmaaaaa 2 роки тому

    Now im interested about this area, you made feel curius for the restauration and all the surrounds. Congratulations, VERY interesting video ✨

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 роки тому +1

      We're so glad you enjoyed it, Anita! We have a whole playlist about our Conservation team if you'd like to learn more: ua-cam.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

    • @balmaaaaa
      @balmaaaaa 2 роки тому

      @@nationalgallery I allready watch everything ♥️ thanks a lot for your work and for share this kind of information.
      I just bought a plane ticket to London so I can see in first person all what I learnd with your videos.
      See you soon!! 😁

  • @MrTsiolkovsky
    @MrTsiolkovsky 2 роки тому +5

    "The River Ohio" that's quite funny as an American.

  • @connorsawyer2418
    @connorsawyer2418 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe this is a dumb question but could you not polish the varnish to clear up the fogginess instead of using solvents that could potentially dissolve the paint?

  • @59jaguar
    @59jaguar 2 роки тому +1

    Would like to know what a good varnish medium is to put over recently finished oil painting on canvas or linen?
    Do they all darken or yellow with age?

  • @Hey_Jeans
    @Hey_Jeans 2 роки тому

    How amazing.
    To learn how intrigate this job is I'd be so nervous to have that much responsibility

  • @karldelavigne8134
    @karldelavigne8134 2 роки тому +1

    The real nightmare with Reynolds is when he mixed wax or bitumen into the paint. We had one which had cracked and blackened beyond redemption. It was said that his sitters often aged better than their portraits.

  • @jamie110896
    @jamie110896 2 роки тому +2

    Captain Orme … I rarely ever hear of anyone that shares my name. Our family don’t know our background. Makes me wonder …

  • @GreenZebra2795
    @GreenZebra2795 2 роки тому

    being a conservator is my dream job. I dont think i would ever be able to do it, but i can dream lol

  • @TheQueen-ie5nv
    @TheQueen-ie5nv 2 роки тому

    An interesting fact about the context behind this painting: the battle in which Braddock fell and Orme was involved in was also participated by a young George Washington!

  • @jeanneblondewomanstamping9788
    @jeanneblondewomanstamping9788 2 роки тому +4

    How are conservators protected from the occupational hazard of inhaling solvent?

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  2 роки тому +10

      Hi there, we take various steps to reduce the amount of solvent entering the atmosphere. Keeping our solvents in narrow necked bottles and trapping used swabs in lidded swab pots. We also have very good ambient extraction in the studios which ensures that levels of solvent in the atmosphere don’t get too high. For particularly hazardous solvents we have organic vapour respirators that provide 100% protection for the wearer.

  • @MrGuardianofhades
    @MrGuardianofhades 2 роки тому +1

    One of my more strange subs..nice

  • @michaelomalley423
    @michaelomalley423 Рік тому

    Surprised to see the lack here of solvent ventilation/extraction trunks when conservators use organic solvents to thin or remove synthetic varnishes.

  • @Sirmenonottwo
    @Sirmenonottwo 2 роки тому +1

    It is interesting how a painter was brought along in the campaign. Not something commonly done lately.

  • @foodini
    @foodini 2 роки тому

    How do you get the cross-section? Is that cut from the painting, or is that just a flake of paint that can be re-attached w/o permanent effect?

  • @curtisgoldthorpe6656
    @curtisgoldthorpe6656 2 роки тому

    my brain just glitched and started repeating. " ryan reynolds paints?" over and over

  • @patstats1
    @patstats1 2 роки тому +1

    I’m curious. I see the ghost of a shield painted in the lower right corner. Does Xray show another composition underneath?

  • @nickdryad
    @nickdryad 2 роки тому +1

    I have such a lot of trouble cleaning my Reynolds.

  • @16BitSiren
    @16BitSiren 2 роки тому +1

    Wow this would be a stressful job. You do not want to make a mistake with these 😖

  • @EP-yd7vz
    @EP-yd7vz 2 роки тому

    Gainsborough...swoon!

  • @deltasquared7777
    @deltasquared7777 2 роки тому

    Are you familiar with the use of applying cajuput oil for a reasonable period of time to gently soften old varnish; you can still gently swab off the unwanted layers, layer by layer? This is a drying oil, so when the oil dries the underlying resin glazed paint you choose not to remove by the swab is still preserved.

  • @robertreynolds6725
    @robertreynolds6725 2 роки тому

    Hmmmm very interesting

  • @user-cp1mr3xi8p
    @user-cp1mr3xi8p 2 роки тому +1

    it's a beautiful language.

  • @ophelias4172
    @ophelias4172 2 роки тому +1

    As much as I dream about working with artifacts at museums, restoration and conservation work would be a nightmare. It's so fiddly and one wrong move and you have the potential ruined a priceless artifact.