Episode 12 - Berthing and Chief's Quarters 60 frame

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  • @sloanchampion85
    @sloanchampion85 3 роки тому +39

    This is exactly why I joined the Air Force....who wants to live like this?

    • @CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg
      @CarlosRodriguez-ox3bg 3 роки тому +11

      I switched from Army to USAF after many years of envy! Best decision I ever made.

    • @HenauderTitzauf
      @HenauderTitzauf 3 роки тому +5

      Me too, plus I’d feel like a sardine! Plus I can’t swim back to land from the subs. That sealift requires a special breed of person, certainly not a claustrophobic.

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 3 роки тому +5

      Submariners do it for the brotherhood

    • @daviddigital6887
      @daviddigital6887 3 роки тому +4

      No way in Hell I would live like that

    • @edwardpate6128
      @edwardpate6128 3 роки тому +6

      I did it pretty much the same way for 4 years on a destroyer in the early 80's

  • @Allan-hd1uh
    @Allan-hd1uh 3 роки тому +5

    I live here in groton conn and go by the nautilus every time but never had the privilege to go on board to see this historical submarine.
    Respect all the sailors who have served.
    Thankyou.

  • @bobbywoods684
    @bobbywoods684 3 роки тому +28

    I was on the decommissioning crew of the Nautilus. The mess deck brings back special memories of cranking there.

  • @w.s.2102
    @w.s.2102 3 роки тому +15

    That’s definitely tight quarters…..respect for what you guys do 👍

  • @allencowgill5494
    @allencowgill5494 3 роки тому +14

    Was enjoying this video then realized I went to high school with Commander Boyd. Looking good Brad! Thanks for the tour. This is great. Hope you are well.

  • @EdmundAycock
    @EdmundAycock 3 роки тому +5

    Outstanding CMDR. Telling it like it is. The Enlisted ranks get it done. And the Chief is the link between the Officers and the deck plate. Retired EMC(SS) here. Great series. You tell it like it is. Work hard and fight the Ship. Thanks.

    • @remaguire
      @remaguire 11 місяців тому

      As a shipmate once told me, enlisted get it done, officers make sure it gets done.

  • @barrykery1175
    @barrykery1175 3 роки тому +5

    That was very interesting. I was on a Gearing Class Destroyer starting in 1968 and had a lot more room to spread out. BUT, the sub that you just gave a little of had more room in it than I expected. It was well laid out. No, "Hot Racks?" Pretty good. I though it would have been the other way around. Not racks on that boat and no hot racks on modern boats. I did not expect that.
    Thanks for the interesting and very informative video.
    Barry

    • @oldsalt7534
      @oldsalt7534 2 роки тому

      What Destroyer were you on? I was on the USS Robert H. McCard DD822 from June '65-Sept '67 out of Charleston.

    • @remaguire
      @remaguire 11 місяців тому

      I deployed on LA class and Permit class boats. I had the same reaction about the "loads" of space the first time I toured Nautilus. It really felt spacious to me.

  • @phcusnret
    @phcusnret 3 роки тому +3

    What a terrific presentation, Commander. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and actually learned a few things, such as the fact that there was initially an exam for SCPO & MCPO.
    One very important duty of a Chief that was missed is the training of junior officers.

  • @ozarkcaveman6383
    @ozarkcaveman6383 3 роки тому +3

    I went on board the Nautilus as an SK in 1971. During that time we spent most of our time in the North Atlantic chasing the Russians during the Cold War. Never did like the North Atlantic in the winter!

  • @alfonsoortega2883
    @alfonsoortega2883 Рік тому +5

    My father served 25 years in navy. He made chief petty officer and in the 90s they had something called the tiger cruise were the sons or daughters of the enlisted men take a 3 day cruise on the ship. I was able to sleep in the chiefs goat locker and eat in the chiefs mess and explore the ship with my pops. We shot the 50 cal torrents and machine gun. Im disappointed with myself i never joined the military

    • @John-qb3ss
      @John-qb3ss 10 місяців тому

      On they intrepid 1970 we did a dependence cruise a day out in the ocean got out in the blue water hit a bad storm three days later they got off mader than hell

  • @ForestDwellerHillCountryGoon
    @ForestDwellerHillCountryGoon 3 роки тому +4

    My uncle served on the Nautilus as a Nuke Engineer. This is really interesting. I would love to take a tour someday.

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 3 роки тому

      I toured the Nautilus... even by submarine standards, the enlisted berthings were extremely tight. One short passageway to a six-pack was only about 18" wide

    • @DuffyF56
      @DuffyF56 Рік тому

      Engineering spaces are not open to the public.

  • @jerryforeman4543
    @jerryforeman4543 Рік тому

    Great tour! Thanks for sharing!

  • @ericfermin8347
    @ericfermin8347 3 роки тому +9

    What exactly is the purpose of the camo uniform? I get why a tiny number of naval personnel have a requirement for camo (SEALs, medics attached to Marines) but what exactly is the purpose of camp on a submarine?

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому +2

      We only wear them in port. At sea we use a version of coveralls. The camo uniform became a standardization of uniforms between services (although all of the differ slightly).

    • @phantomcruizer
      @phantomcruizer 3 роки тому +1

      @@submarineforcemuseum1739 So enlisted naval personnel no long wear dungarees and blue jackets?…how about the white hats “Dixie cups”?

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому +1

      Yes - dixie cup hats and "cracker jack" uniforms are still worn by enlisted E-6 and below.

    • @pulsatingsausageboy2076
      @pulsatingsausageboy2076 2 роки тому

      Why does the Air Force wear them? Why do administrative people or cooks in the Army or Marines wear them?

    • @ericfermin8347
      @ericfermin8347 2 роки тому

      @@pulsatingsausageboy2076 I agree.

  • @belgianmalinoit9665
    @belgianmalinoit9665 3 роки тому +14

    It’s fascinating to me that has submarine technology advances, that were actually going back to hot bunking. I thought that was a thing of the past, and I can’t honestly see that that’s going to help recruiting.

    • @sloanchampion85
      @sloanchampion85 3 роки тому +3

      It can't be.....who wants to hot rack

    • @pcolageorge
      @pcolageorge 3 роки тому +3

      Officers don't hot-rack. Mostly junior enlisted, although I hot-racked as a PO1 on one boat because we were so crowded.

    • @maxsdad538
      @maxsdad538 3 роки тому +4

      That's why I liked the Air Force. Once I went to flight crew (EC-121, same thing as the Navy's WV), as an E-2 I had a one man room and it ALWAYS had air conditioning. And if the A/C didn't work, we didn't fly... crew rest requirements.

    • @pcolageorge
      @pcolageorge 3 роки тому

      @@maxsdad538 Yeah, you AF guys had it rough. I liked your billeting tho. Sub-standard room at Clark AFB = a suite lol. Cheers CTIC(SS) (Ret)

  • @jeff7764
    @jeff7764 6 місяців тому

    Wow! Much respect to you fellas

  • @wfwillis
    @wfwillis 6 місяців тому

    After standing watch, doing your regular job, and several collateral duties, one is too damn tired to worry about my bunk. I never had any trouble sleeping in the sub's CPO bunk room, except maybe when the skipper was doing angles and dangles. CWO4 USN Ret.

  • @JohnRoome-yf2gq
    @JohnRoome-yf2gq 6 місяців тому

    My father was a sonarman on the Nautilus when it went to Antarctica. I would love to get some record or information about his time on the Nautilus. Anything would be great.

  • @tombrown6628
    @tombrown6628 3 роки тому +1

    Very good insights into how the system works 👍👍

  • @paveladamek3502
    @paveladamek3502 3 роки тому +3

    Even more impressive than serving and living in the boat is designing it. Every f-ing piece of sheet metal must be considered for all the nooks and cubbies.

  • @skovner
    @skovner Місяць тому

    The head is much simpler to operate than on a 1920's S-boat. Look up the bookl "Pigboat 39" about S-39 at the start of WWII. It includes a picture and the 13 steps to use the head.

  • @fangsandfolklore8795
    @fangsandfolklore8795 7 місяців тому

    Very interesting. Thank you.

  • @samspade3227
    @samspade3227 3 роки тому

    When on the USS Proteus AS19, I made those coffin racks that would dove tail on torpedo room ways.

  • @MyRanger12
    @MyRanger12 Рік тому

    I did 26 years in the Army. When hot racking how is bending handled?

  • @tombob671
    @tombob671 3 роки тому +15

    Bottom line: The Chiefs run the navy

    • @trottheblackdog
      @trottheblackdog 3 роки тому

      My late uncle, a retired Commander in the Naval Reserve, along with his brother (my dad) and his sons, all Navy veterans told me those exact words.

    • @maxsdad538
      @maxsdad538 3 роки тому +2

      And the Air Force, AND the Marines, AND the Army. And every officer above O-2 knows that. Butterbars are a little slow picking it up.

    • @tombob671
      @tombob671 3 роки тому

      @@maxsdad538 I am a Marine 1966,67, 68. I once saw our 1st Sgt. E8 Tell a butter bar, "sorry sir I did not hear you knock before entering my office" the butterbar gently learned a custom that day. LOL

    • @lawrenceleverton7426
      @lawrenceleverton7426 2 місяці тому

      Did this Officer get Permission to Enter the Chiefs area?

  • @williambudd2850
    @williambudd2850 3 роки тому +4

    Back in 1965 the Navy offered me submarine school if I would re-enlist. I declined and that was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life. You can exist on a sub but it really isn’t much of a life. Can you imagine living like that or worse for the junnior enlisted. For months at a time. People in jail have it better than that.

  • @aollendorf
    @aollendorf 3 роки тому +2

    The Sonar System that was state-of-the-art when I served (76-82) is now in the Submarine Museum (An/BQQ-5(A)).

    • @mikegracie3212
      @mikegracie3212 3 роки тому

      The standing joke about the boat I was on was you probably shaved with part of it

    • @phantomcruizer
      @phantomcruizer 3 роки тому

      @@mikegracie3212 I’m shaving with my old boat right now. 😂

  • @philosopher1a
    @philosopher1a Рік тому +1

    How old is this ship? gezz ? oh i think this was retired in 1980

  • @jermichaelphipps178
    @jermichaelphipps178 3 роки тому +1

    Very interesting!

  • @Youtubeparolee
    @Youtubeparolee 11 місяців тому +1

    I was on the Saratoga. Desert Storm era.

  • @briangulley6027
    @briangulley6027 Рік тому +1

    Ask me again why I joined the Air Force.

  • @DuffyF56
    @DuffyF56 Рік тому +1

    No chance of showing anything in the Engineering spaces? Hard to believe it would still be classified more than 40 years post decommissioning. I understand the Engineroom was similarly equipped with plexiglass panels when prepped as a museum boat and even that the lighting was improved in the Enginerrom this last drydock period.

    • @lawrenceleverton7426
      @lawrenceleverton7426 2 місяці тому

      There was also another Deck House for the After Section as well. I was attached and the ER and Reactor Compartment are actually kind cool. But you are correct its classified even to this day.

  • @larryl212
    @larryl212 3 роки тому

    OUTSTANDING!!!

  • @Waltham1892
    @Waltham1892 3 роки тому +19

    Would someone please tell the Navy that there are no trees on submarines, so they can lose the camo.

    • @davidsneddon8508
      @davidsneddon8508 3 роки тому +2

      That’s when you are stationed at the doorway in charge of the fly screen

    • @anthonylowder6687
      @anthonylowder6687 3 роки тому +6

      The Navy needs to go back to the traditional uniforms....green or blue camos, either way they make you look like you're in the Army and not the Navy!!

    • @pandax75
      @pandax75 3 роки тому +8

      When I was in I wore dungarees. They were supposed to be the uniform you wore when you had to do dirty work and you didn't care what happened to them. Honestly most of us didn't like them. But wearing a camo pattern uniform on a ship is just silly.

    • @sgt.grinch3299
      @sgt.grinch3299 3 роки тому +2

      Only Marines, Seals, Master at Arms, or EOD should wear cammies on board. Swabbies need to return to blues. I almost forgot the Corpsmen. They earned the right too. Semper Fi to all my brother Shellbacks.

  • @dartmaster501
    @dartmaster501 2 роки тому

    You need to slow your camera movements down. I couldn't count the number of racks in that berthing space. Was it 6 or 8? Either way how is that 10 people sharing the space?

  • @camerongarcia3128
    @camerongarcia3128 2 роки тому

    Since space is limited, and there are no offices per say, for a Chief; do they use an Ipad or a Laptop computer to do their business such as keeping track of personnel actions, etc?

  • @valiant60s
    @valiant60s 3 роки тому

    Another fantastic video. I count 12 racks for the chiefs. Is that how many were on board?

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому

      Not always - they would have at least 12, sometimes more. In the case where they have more chiefs than racks in Chief's berthing they would have the most junior Chief(s) sleep in junior enlisted berthing until a more senior chief rotated off and they would move to that bunk. Same practice today.

  • @rayscott4780
    @rayscott4780 3 роки тому +2

    Camouflage in a submarine? Makes sense to me.

    • @nick3764
      @nick3764 Місяць тому

      Really late but they’re in-port, it’s a museum and working at the submarine force museum is probably classified as shore duty, hence the NWUs instead of coveralls.

  • @SloopADoopy
    @SloopADoopy 3 роки тому +3

    There’s better sleeping in the pen than what the crew has

  • @harcomou8395
    @harcomou8395 3 роки тому

    So the CO ans XO have their own small stateroom Bit the COB has not?

  • @Woody-nc1ru
    @Woody-nc1ru 3 роки тому +3

    You forgot to tell them the most important thing when using the head!!! Gotta make sure they're not clearing the tanks, you open that ball valve its gonna be a disaster !!!!😁 But they shut down the head when they're doing that.

    • @EdmundAycock
      @EdmundAycock 3 роки тому

      LOL. I remember on the 599 a dude was half asleep and went into the head, took a piss and opened the valve while we were blowing sanitary tanks. Jesus the smell. LOL. So long ago...

    • @lawrenceleverton7426
      @lawrenceleverton7426 2 місяці тому

      The only shutdown they have is a Red Sign. Mess up and you will find out quickly.

  • @eatcommies1375
    @eatcommies1375 3 роки тому

    In Your opinion, what is the most important quality in a person that makes them a good fit for a sub crew? I would imagine that Navy is focusing on the mental shape more vs.physical?

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому +2

      Important qualities - ability to work both in a team and on your own. Also an ability to have your personal space compressed just a little...

    • @phantomcruizer
      @phantomcruizer 3 роки тому +1

      @@submarineforcemuseum1739 We had psych evals in sub school back in the early ‘80’s.

    • @eatcommies1375
      @eatcommies1375 3 роки тому

      @@phantomcruizer That’s what I had in mind, psyh condition of a submariner has to be very healthy with calm personality I’d imagine?….

  • @GaZonk100
    @GaZonk100 Рік тому

    what's the attraction to that life?

  • @bullet-catcherhohoho250
    @bullet-catcherhohoho250 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the info.

  • @ManoliGreek2640
    @ManoliGreek2640 2 роки тому +1

    That’s like jail..

  • @mikegracie3212
    @mikegracie3212 3 роки тому +1

    After a SS Nautilus must have seemed like the Hilton to the COB.

  • @jamesmaranki526
    @jamesmaranki526 Рік тому

    They should go back to dungarees for enlisted, and kakais for CPO and officer.

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 3 роки тому

    Well a lot of that berthing seems pretty similar to what this former destroyer sailor knew back in the day.

  • @hannible1002
    @hannible1002 3 роки тому

    Fuck living like that! Life is too short!

  • @chezeface1142
    @chezeface1142 Рік тому +1

    The chiefs have it bad

    • @remaguire
      @remaguire 11 місяців тому +1

      They have it very, VERY good. If you're going to sea, you want to do it as a CPO.

  • @ms.annthrope415
    @ms.annthrope415 2 роки тому +1

    Tighter quarters than in prison. These folks sacrifice so much even in peacetime time. No room to stretch out. No privacy. No opportunity to go out with friends to blow if steam on Friday after work. No seeing family for 6 months at a time. Not seeing their babies' taking their first steps or their birthdays or spouse's birthdays. So repsect to all military.

    • @remaguire
      @remaguire 11 місяців тому

      The only thing which bothered me was the lack of privacy. Everything else was no big deal.

  • @svintrepid166
    @svintrepid166 3 роки тому

    Pretty cool😎

  • @chezeface1142
    @chezeface1142 Рік тому +1

    Looks exactly like jail but smaller

  • @MrPr3shaff
    @MrPr3shaff Рік тому

    Subs, 200 sailors' go down and a hundred couple's come back up

  • @cherylmoatz4739
    @cherylmoatz4739 3 роки тому

    Definitely would be hard for a person who was addicted to drugs to do their thing on a sub. No privacy at all except bathroom and maybe pulling shades up in your bunk. Are there random drug test on a sub?

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому

      Drug testing onboard submarines follows the same policy for drug testing throughout the Navy.

  • @sayhoman
    @sayhoman Рік тому

    Good lord. I hope folks working and living in submarines get paid handsomely

  • @mikegracie3212
    @mikegracie3212 3 роки тому

    I visited the Nautilus while she was still in comission.

  • @mikegracie3212
    @mikegracie3212 3 роки тому +2

    I totally forgot about blowing sanitaries to sea

    • @greg5023
      @greg5023 3 роки тому +1

      you only forget once :)

    • @mikegracie3212
      @mikegracie3212 3 роки тому

      @@greg5023 yeah you fieldday that head forever. The sad part is that the instructions are posted and they put signs up and someone forgets. People who haven't been on Submarines has no idea

  • @buzz5969
    @buzz5969 10 місяців тому

    GOAT LOCKER⚓️

  • @stevec2940
    @stevec2940 3 роки тому

    Maybe it’s the camera but it looks roomy.

  • @josephbaca1899
    @josephbaca1899 3 роки тому

    Pretty snazzy...

  • @timmuller1567
    @timmuller1567 3 роки тому +4

    So if you were fortunate enough to serve a long time ago you got your own bed but now in modern America you have to share a bed? Incentive enough to "NOT" volunteer for submarine duty.

    • @Shadowfax-1980
      @Shadowfax-1980 3 роки тому +1

      I’m told that they get better pay in the submarine service.

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 3 роки тому

      @@Shadowfax-1980
      Ok so that's how many weeks of being inside a giant nuclear can with many others and not being able to see sunlight or get fresh air?

    • @maxsdad538
      @maxsdad538 3 роки тому +3

      That's why we're PROUD veterans and you'll NEVER understand. We sacrifice so people like you won't have to... you're welcome.

  • @andretea262
    @andretea262 2 роки тому

    E7, my ass be E the fucking out of there with these accommodation and pay

  • @wccroft50
    @wccroft50 7 місяців тому

    you made a mistake. Submarines are called boats not ships.

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 3 роки тому

    Great tour but dude, sounds like a dead end job.

  • @charleswells9682
    @charleswells9682 3 роки тому

    At the very least, the presenter is not familiar with enlisted life on board a boat. I'm not even sure that he has served on a boat regardless of the insignia on his uniform. Most likely a wep-o or other coner. On Henry Clay SSBN625 the chiefs ate at 2 reserved tables on the mess deck not in the goat locker. The lockers in the berthing were not generally used for 'shower stuff'; that was usually in the bed pan or drawer. The locker was for uniforms or no crush items. Of course an individual sailor could stow his gear where he saw fit in his personal space.

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому +2

      Where the chiefs ate depended on where and what the layout of the quarters where. On Los Angeles class, Seawolf class, Virginia class, and Ohio class there definitely is no meal service in the goat locker. Everything is eaten on crew's mess with one or two tables reserved (depending on the size of the tables on Crew's mess), none of those stationed here at Nautilus have been on any other class of submarine. We have had Chief's onboard Nautilus tell us where they ate - sometimes it was on crew's mess and sometimes in their locker area. All depended on what was going on and if they wanted to have a working meal out of the crew's area. Given their proximity to the crew's mess it was an option for them the way it really isn't onboard modern boats.
      As for the lockers in berthing - you are correct - it could be whatever they chose to put there. On a 688 class submarine there typically weren't any lockers outside of the bedpan (maybe one per 4 or five people - and then not consistently - depends on whether you are in forward berthing, aft berthing, 21-man, or 9-man and 9-man was a mix of JO overflow berthing and enlisted). We should have consulted with Nautilus crew members as to what they used it for, but our own enlisted serving here didn't get their own lockers typically (with only a handful of exceptions - the ones stationed on Ohio Class submarines). What went into the locker was usually the no crush items as you said. In many cases dress uniforms would be combined in a divisional stowage area for deployment.
      Thank you for serving and pointing out where you and your crew would typically keep things. As with every boat in the Navy, things differ depending on storage and berthing constraints, and how sailors banded together to come up with innovative stowage solutions.

    • @charleswells9682
      @charleswells9682 3 роки тому +1

      @@submarineforcemuseum1739 Thanks for your reply. Yes, the amenities on the different classes varied; and sometimes varied greatly within a class. After leaving the Navy I worked at Newport News Shipbuilding (non-nuclear carrier piping engineering) but got to witness the process by which identical ships soon become nonidentical. One datum for your consideration is that most of the enlisted (at least 1st and below) kept their dress uniform (cracker jacks) laid out between the mattress and bedpan. When the uniform was folded properly this became a self-pressing storage method. I was taught that by the old timers who came from diesel boats, so I would imagine that Nautilus crew would have known it too. I always preferred the outboard areas of main crew berthing lowest rack. That was it was an easy in to the rack when returning from the beach and easy out during drills and casualties. The downside was that bedpan stowage was limited. I'm enjoying the remainder of the series (have to ration myself to one per day max lest I binge) and do find it interesting how more recent boat-people experienced life (I work with a fair number of guys whose EAOS was late 90s to just a few years ago).

    • @submarineforcemuseum1739
      @submarineforcemuseum1739  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you - some of our crew would store their uniform between the mattress and bed-pan, but really only the senior 1st class could do that on a deployment. Everyone else was subject to hot racking or berthing shifts as guests came onboard. On 688's the fan room was the common storage spot for many of the divisions junior enlisted. Radio always managed to find room in their outboards for their divisions... Glad you are enjoying the series!

  • @warrenlabahn6827
    @warrenlabahn6827 7 місяців тому

    Go navy

  • @scribe0714
    @scribe0714 3 роки тому +2

    This guy said “things like that” a dozen times at least. Just state what they are.

  • @deplorablecovfefe9489
    @deplorablecovfefe9489 3 роки тому

    I worked with a navy mechanic once. If he didn't have a book with step by step instructions he didn't know how to do anything.

  • @ikeriascott7946
    @ikeriascott7946 3 роки тому +2

    “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14❤️ Please don’t take this lightly guys repent today, no day is promised so do it now, here’s the sign you’ve been looking for. God loves you and so do I❤️

  • @johns1039
    @johns1039 Рік тому

    Uuuuh. Um. Uh, uh, uh.

  • @CombatDoc54
    @CombatDoc54 3 роки тому +1

    What wat wrong with that one dude!!!!! HE LOOKED DEAD!!!!

    • @michaelrunnels7660
      @michaelrunnels7660 3 роки тому +2

      I can tell you with certainty that he's not alive.

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 3 роки тому

      @@michaelrunnels7660
      I think all the nuclear radiation turned him into a plastic mannequin

    • @michaelrunnels7660
      @michaelrunnels7660 3 роки тому

      @@Menaceblue3 Yup. I concur. It's pretty sad because I'm sure his mother had high hopes for him. If she's still alive I hope she doesn't see this video.

  • @disgruntledpedant2755
    @disgruntledpedant2755 3 роки тому +2

    Incredible racism! Selecting officers based on merit instead of skin color. Wow

  • @johnplaid648
    @johnplaid648 3 роки тому

    Boring as hell.