Watching **MOXIE** for Nico Hiraga and Feminism Too, I Guess
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- “Nico over feminism but feminism over guys”
Today we watched Amy Poehler’s new Netflix movie, MOXIE and we actually kinda enjoyed it...?
** TRIGGER WARNING: R*pe is discussed in the commentary during 21:53 - 23:00 **
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Intro - Highball (Prod. by Lukrembo)
Outro - Biscuit (Prod. by Lukrembo)
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We used clips from Moxie in this video, as criticism and comment and compliant with UA-cam's copyright guidelines and United States Federal Law.
nico hiraga is a KINGGGG
AND IS!
the way vivian was acting like the most oppressed person in the room with her asian bf wasn’t right there
THE AUDACITY lollll
-Tese
I liked how the Black women in this had such diverse natural hairstyles too
Such a lovely touch to the film! Good point!
-Tese
the soccer girls were actually dressed really accurately you get to wear whatever as long as you’re wearing your shirt
oh fr? it’s definitely a regional thing then my bad 😭
- Chrisitna xx
@@TesexChristina yeah at my school they need shorts as long to the knees idk about the shirt though I think as long as it’s has sleeves like short sleeves then it’s fine.
I forgot to clarify this is for practice but for games they need the same color shorts as the school team shirt
the way y’all fangirled over nico is literally meeeeeeee
I feel you lolll
-Tese
Me throughout the ENTIRE film
the dinner scene was painful to watch 😳
We were cringing so hard loll
For real!! I could barely watch it
God Seth deserved better it always bugged me that Vivian took her anger out on him when he was nothing but supportive and he was the one who apologized in the end. Being a strong powerful women doesn't mean you can't apologize to a man when you messed up.
Yes to all of that!!!
Yeah I’m glad Seth called her out!!!
reasons why this video is ✨elite✨:
1. The LOVE for Nico Hiraga
2. Solid review and arguments
3. The references to memes and talking in sync
It’s all about a healthy balance (and thank you!!)
-Tese
yes all of it!!
I literally died at the scene when he puts his phone in the phone holding thingy and he smiles omg🥲
Girl, I couldn’t even talk. I was SPEECHLESS loll
-Tese
ikr like ughhh
The “for feminism too ig” got me CACKLIN 😂😂😂
But ya im in love with him😭
You guys are very funny btw 😆
You know we had to add in the feminism bit for solidarity lol. But anyways thank you so much for the kind comment!! ☺️
two dark-skinned hilarious black girls doing movie commentary. what more could i want? literally so proud to be dark-skinned right now
That means so much to us...wow, thank you
@@TesexChristina ❤️❤️
moxie was disappointing (yet another film overlooking beautiful, intriguing characters of color for a largely boring white character who acts out and never sees real consequences) but bless that movie for leading me to your channel
All your points are valid!! And thank you so much!! It truly means a lot
That is true honestly, but the movie was based off a book written by a white woman. It wouldn't have been her place to write the book as a person of color when she was white. But still that is so understandable and the film had a lot more potential.
@@GraceLHuber exactly
It’s because the director was a white woman and she didn’t wanted to write a story about a woman of color when it was not her experience and place
My guess is it's because they wanted to do a journey talking about learning privileges and feminine struggles. Having a boring white female would be better for a journey about learning of women's issues.
THE WHITE FEMINISM COMMENT ABOUT T HE PERIOD BLOOD I AM CRYINGNGNGNN
Did i LIEEEE HAHAHHAA
- Christina xx
And this is the reason I didn’t watch it. I saw the trailer. Saw the black queen spit facts and knew the white cis woman was the main character. Like... miss really fought the entire time was harassed and racially abused and she’s supposed to ignore it. But lil miss white cis moxie gets ALL the credit after hearing some stories from her mum and taking advice from her melanited queen. Not to mention the ones who made the MOST noise were black/brown women.
The movie is definitely flawed in that sense so I agree with you
-Tese
I agree but I also see why people arent going crazy over this too. It made me mad to see but then I learned that the book was written by a white cis woman and it would've been really not her place to write from a POC's point of view. I get it completely though. I think they should've put more attention into their other characters including the trans girl who we only hear a few things from
Ugghh fr
I think movies with dark skinned Black women are way more important than a movie like this one. But in a nuanced way the idea of centring a white cis woman going through the journey of her eyes being opened, getting way too full of herself and then slowly coming back down off her pedestal could be a useful way to target those type of women and show them what they are doing.
@@TheDisell I agree and I think it could influence all the teen girls watching this to not make the same mistakes as her (the mc)
this video had me rolling omg I love yall. Tbh Nico and the diversity were the only reasons I liked this movie too because the rest of it screamed white feminism to me. The kiss between Lucy and Amaya's random kiss without any foreshadowing or their relationship being revisited after was kind of like a "hey we are inclusive, like the movie" type of moment. It didn't feel genuine to me at least idk about how others felt. I liked the calling out of her Vivian's privilege but DAMN when will we please get Black leads who aren't just the liaisons of the white protagonist. I would've liked it better if Lucy was the lead tbh
YES TO ALL OF THIS!!!
I agree with all of this. It was based on a book written by a white woman and for her to be writing from the perspective of a black woman would not have been genuine. So I understand why it was this way, but the could have had black writers for the movie, to change it up.
@@giannastruck1258 I get that, I just wish they would make good book to movie adaptations written by POC with POC in the lead roles. and roles where its not about POC trauma/tired stereotypes bc that's so overdone. Like take Nico's character, he was just a high school kid who liked the MC and skating. His role wasn't based on the fact that he was a POC bc we could see that he was a POC yk what I mean.
@@rememberiri5600 definitely!!!
@@rememberiri5600 for sure! I think it’s important to build a character away from just their ethnicity, but I think at the same time, that is something that should be included and not just cut out of the picture as that is such a big part of how someone navigates their life. For example, if it was in the perspective of Nico’s character, it would likely be important to include the emasculation that comes along with being an Asian man and being treated as ‘less desirable’ because they’re not white or don’t fit into the conventional beauty standards
The trans girl’s whole thing was that nobody would call her by her new/real name and then they proceeded to never mention her name
Ya'll commentary was on pointtttt, literally had the same exact feelings and takeaways day I watched this! No one I knew seen it so they didn't understand my gripe with the film but yessss to everything! What's funny is they been promoting it as this film that's hella progressive but the story is still based on a white women's journey into feminism, which is problematic as so much of the internal issues within feminism is the erasure of women of color. What would have made it really hit would be Lucy as the main character !
First of all, thank you for watching and enjoying the video! I'm glad that we could somewhat represent how other people may have felt when they watched this movie. And I agree, let's start putting women of colour to the front!
@@TesexChristina ya’ll are good truly, made it easy to enjoy. Actually was refreshing how great your comments were, especially from a filmmaking perspective, I was like ohhhh! Okay I can get with this! And forsureee, I think the industry standards need to be abandoned! ,
@@rosinaghebreyesus2451 Much appreciated!!! Be on the lookout for more videos like this in the future ;)
@@TesexChristina Will do!
Hi I think the reason why the main girl in the movie was white it's bc this movie is based on a book and the author of that book it's white so it would be very problematic if she wrote the story from a poc perspective, if you read the book you'll see that the movie is actually way more diverse, yet just like you I'm still waiting for a good feminist movie with a strong black women as the lead :)
Tell me how barely anyone knows about the sista grrrl movement (a parallel to the riot grrrl movement) the sista grrrl movement was started for black women that didn’t feel like they couldn’t be apart of Kathleen Hanna’s riot grrrl movement
We need to do more research on that. Wow, thanks!!
Thanks for sharing that. I feel like Riot Grrl is making a comeback but it's so important to include our Black sisters as well as Hispanic, and Asian and others. The riot grrl movement really fell off and didn't last bc of it's lack of diversity. The idea was more women in punk but punk was too busy being white and so was the riot grrl movement. It's refreshing to see Willow Smith making punk music and I hope bc she's a big name with a lot of exposure that she inspires more young Black ladies to break into the movement.
the moxie movie was an amazing concept, i just wish they would've switched the roles and had a minority as the lead. like clauida could've been the lead, it would have made sense that she started the rebellion considering the fact she has a strict mother, and would've made an interesting plot point.
I agree but the author of moxie is white it would be weird if they wrote about a black chracter
@@nansiipii9018 but people do that all the time? black people write about characters that are white. the majority of authors, filmmakers, etc. are white instead of a PoC. if we didn't have white people write about black, indigenous, etc. people there would be very little representation in the media. it's like saying a straight person can't write about an LGBTQ+ person. white people write in black characters all the time, it's just a matter of if they're a background character or not.
@@luneticc but the main charecter being black and maybe something about the representation wouldn't be right then people would ho insane over the author
@@nansiipii9018 that's why authors and script writers and directors should do their research and talk to and work with other black/PoC/indigenous, etc. individuals.
To be honest, the movie and book works better with a white woman. All minorities can point out her white privilege to her. If main character was a poc, it wouldn't have an impact. Poc already know white people are privileged, the white girl needed to get called out.
I bet Claudia got so much hate but she had her own issues and pressure being a model minority. If they don’t address that in the movie... as her friend who claims to be a feminist for all women she didn’t even try to help.
Btw this editing and your commentary made my morning!
I literally clicked on this after watching the movie for more Nico lol. Also, that haircut is fire. Also, yes yes yes to all the commentary.
Yeah, we felt like not enough people were talking about this movie so thank you so much for watching! I bet 90% of ppl who watched the movie did it for Nico tbh. Thanks for the nice comment!!
Y’all acting up over Nico was me throughout the entire film 😂😂 I wish his role in ‘Booksmart’ was bigger, he’s also in ‘North Hollywood’ which I plan to watch soon.
i loved how Nico called her out on her bs after the dinner scene because a lot of great male interests in movies and shows are made doormats and just take whatever the girl says/does instead of standing up for themselves when they're treated badly
YES!
One amazing thing about this movie is that they actually casted a REAL afro-latina in a latin role. Often times a latinas like her could only be casted as a black american women and never as a latina.
You love to see it!
-Tese
Y’all thirsting over nico is relatable lmfao
FR NICO IS SO FINE
bye not me coming to watch this after seeing nico say he loved this video lmao yall won😭✋🏿
PLSSS I JUST FINISHED AND Y'ALL ARE FUNNY ASF
@@purplesoobinenthusiast7122 HAHAHHAHA we really did win. thank you though i’m glad you enjoyed !!
Omg 🙈😂😂😂😂
What’s the name of the video?
When did he said that????
Perhaps this is me being charitable being a fan of the book but I interpreted Vivian's shortcomings as a much needed critique of white feminism since she was challenged for her blind spots throughout the movie. That being said I would absolutely watch an entire sequel about Lucy.
Wait.... that’s a really good point thank you for that!
21:01 When I watched that scene I was like "not you yelling at and talking down to the only POC in the whole room"
THANK YOU for addressing Lucy's weird reaction to Claudia getting suspended, like she was being all dismissive about it. Not enough people were pointing it out and talking about it but it really annoyed me how they had the other main POC character of the film just brush off the Asian girl getting punished or taking the brunt of the authority cracking down on what THE WHITE GIRL STARTED
thank you for loving nico hiraga i watched someone else react and they were like oh...he's kinda cute ig. wtf
Nah we came with energy. We knew what it was lolll
-Tese
So we just not gonna mention how she just casually shaved her head mid video XDD Iconic
look... i was almost late for my appointment cause of this commentary 😭
- Christina xx
You two are so entertaining and funny !! and I'm glad we share the same obsession with Nico
Hahaha thank you so much Calie!!
This was amazing, y’all are HILARIOUS. so glad the algorithm brought me this channel :)
We are so glad you're here. Stay tuned for our next commentary ;)
the singular person who disliked this has no respect for Nico
“How do you know the rules?”
“I don’t I just watch it.”
“On what ESPN?”
11:37
I was honestly so worried about this movie. I thought it would be too girl boss but not in the good way. But I was really surprised! This was a pretty good movie. And I love that they let that girl band perform, they make killer music.
Great commentary guys
The way I only watched this for nico, oh yeah and bikini kill
As we should lol!
I am so glad I was not the only one going mentally crazy over Nico
When seth called Vivian out after the dinner fight and Claudia calling her a coward - the best two scenes I enjoyed. I liked that this movie did that. Other than that, I was disappointed with the movie.
I literally loved y’all’s commentary, I hate watching movie reviews by people and I always end up skipping the review and just watching the movie but I didn’t skip once in y’all’s video. Y’all gave good and short commentary and your guys commentary was also hilarious😭
Oh wow!! Thank you so much, it means a lot
-Tese
I was literally about to pay to rent this movie, and came across this channel instead! Saved me some money, had some laughs (cuz y'all are freakin hilarious) and got my fill of Nico Hiraga. God bless lol
Hahaha I’m glad you had some laughs!! (And most importantly got some Nico content)
-Tese
kinda mad yall made me burst a lung from this cant wait for more movie commentaries
Not the burst lung!! Haha we’re glad we could make you laugh
Please I can write a whole essay on your analysis 😭❤️
IKTR!
-Tese
6:15 it made me so annoyed that this white girl became the face of feminism at the school and she was SO NEW to her journey. this is not to discourage people from being feminists, that is the last thing i want to do, but seriously the white girl gets all the credit for keeping her head up high when she's anonymous the entire time and they excuse that for her being an introvert
personally i like this movie even though it has its flaws. i LOVED nico hiraga tho. this was my first time seeing him and i fell in love😩✋
The title is so accurate
I was really like do I actually want to watch this movie or do I wanna just watch these girls watch the movie for the same reason I am
You guys are really funny, this is my first video of yours and I’ll be sure too watch more!! I love how you are calling out all the stereotypes and things wrong with this movie!
Omg thank you sm!! Yes, defo subscribe for more content like this :)
y'all are hilarious, definitely subscribed. and I agree with everything said about Nico 😏
Thank you so much hahaha
i just got recommended this video and it’s the funniest shit i’ve seen all day omg
okay but when he got aggressive while she was trying to get a soda i was so triggered.
the commentary’s fire, y’all are hella funny, and u appreciate our boy nico. subbed.
Thank you so much!! I’m glad you enjoyed :)
Wow thank you so much! We appreciate the comment and the sub fr!!!
LMAOOOO.I think this is my comfort video ,literally whenever I have a bad day I come back to this channel but this video in particular always lifts up my spirits
Awww that’s so sweet!! Thank you
you dont understand how much i was cackling at this!! your commentary is so gooood! also i would recomend skate kitchen next- has skating and i think nico might be in it (but like a minor role)
After I watched moxie I never stopped sharing awareness about sexism and Assault or racism it really inspired me #MOXIE☆☆☆
this is my new favorite UA-cam video! I love you guys so much and I’m so happy you guys are in love with nico like I am:)
Wait UA-cam is actually being helpful for once, I’m subscribing for sure!
Edit: also Nico though? OhH Jesus 👉🏻👈🏻❤️ everyone get outta my way
Thank you for subscribing
the commentary channel we've been waiting for! Finally, *quality*
Haha thank you so muchh, we appreciate that :)
Nicoooooo❤️I fallen in love with him after I watched Booksmart and Moxie.Your reactions are definitely same as mine when I see him. 😂
I am literally so in love with u both and your vibe and humour! I miss having u around! So glad I can watch these!
Martina!!! We miss you so much, thank you so much for watching. It means a lot that you enjoyed the video
AHHH I LOVE THE SHAVED HAIRRR
Thank you so much !!!
ALL OF YOUR MEME REFERENCES MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD, u two are so incredibly funny
Thank you hahah
y'all are toooo funnnyyyy lmaoooo loved this commentary!
I like how i wasnt the only one willing to jump off a cliff to just shake hands with Nico Hiraga... Like girl- he's just... no words just *chefs kiss*
The movie was not it for me but I’m really glad it led me to your channel. Y’all are really entertaining 😂
Hahaha thank you so much!! We’re glad you’re here
First things first, I love y’all. I loved this commentary y’all are so funny. Secondly I have NEVER seen such a perfectly shaped head. I’m so jealous, I’ve never shaved my head but I just KNOW it looks just like my dad’s head😂
Not you throwing your dad under the bus. I’m weak lolll
-Tese
@@TesexChristina I tell him all the time that he gave me his big bucket head😂 he just says “sorry🤷🏼♀️”
HAHAHAHA BUT THANK YOUUU
this is the very first video i’ve seen from you guys and oh my god it was an instant subscribe! coming back for every idea you post
I am 100% here for quoting WAP at Nico our king
Glad you liked the commentary and thank you so much for subbing :)
-Tese
The reason Lucy wasn’t the main character on the show is because moxie was actually written by a white woman so if the movie is called moxie and Lucy, a black character, is the main one and it’s telling her background then it wouldn’t be accurate. That’s the main reason why
The title is sending me 😭😭
I loooved your guys' commentary!! Defimitely only continued watching the movie for nico lol also the radio rebel comment at the end killed me 😂😂😂
so glad i found the two of you genuinely the funniest duo since cody and noel but y’all are ur own brand ❤️❤️ tons of support girls ;))
Danggg that’s a huge compliment..thank you so much!!!
-Tese
LOVE THIS my problem with the movie is that there is 0 accountability r e a l l y on the white girl's part like her boyfriend and best friend sorta just forgive her bc the movie is abt to end and she did some activism (that she has been doing all movie)
Lucy should have been the main character and that’s on period
Bro it’s mandatory for me to follow y’all because y’all are so funny
Watching this gave me so many flashbacks on how much I hated Mitchell. Like the fire in me just burnssss😭😭
FR
16:44 IKR That literally came out of nowhere for me too!
You two are SO FUNNY, I've never felt so much JOY watching a youtube video. Love that we share our obsession of Nico !! :)))
Also you guys have such great commentary on feminism, love this video
I’m so happy that you enjoyed watching and that we could bring you joy :)
-Tese
I might sound rude or something but the white girl shoudk have been a side character or not in it at all. I liked the black girls and the Asian girl. They actually fought for something and had personality.
@ yess. It’s slowly happening.
omg I am literally fangirling about Nico todayy! he is very like very attractive, the way he acts, he skates and his voice *ugh*! I am dying over his charms.! I love your reaction to him and vivian driving scene too haha. "I would literally do anything to be in her position, ask me what I would do." "What would you do?" "Anything to be in her position." I just cracked up at this part lol
Hahah, i love the commentary. So entertaining. Nico is a sweetie too!
Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed! And yes, he is :)
This reaction has to be one of my favourites so far 💀
The amount of relatablity, humour and wisdom here is just- *yes*
Edit- wait shit- I cannot just forget about the hair shaving IN BETWEEN the video 😭👏✨
I found you like a day ago and I already love you 2 and your dynamic I was surprised you didn't have more subscribers???
Thank you so much, that is so sweet!!
i love the crushing on Nico. you both had me rolling!!!!
I have not laughed out loud at a UA-cam video in TIME. So glad I found your channel - subscribed!!
It kills me when they make these movies about the rebellious, socially aware white girl when in reality there are very little white girls like that lol. It would have been more realistic if the main girl was a poc tbh
This was such an accurate and entertaining commentary. LOVED IT!
Never seen the movie but stayed for the commentary! 😂 Loved it!
The way this video will always be iconic!!! I come back to it from time to time to get my necessary dose of you two simping over Nico Hiraga because same!! 😂 Love you guys 💖
the thirst for nico in this video is unmatched and i am living for it honestly
Nico really is something else, i surrender to him
excuse me ma’am but there’s a line!
-Tese
@@TesexChristina hahahahahaha I'm so sorry
I actually read the Moxie book before the movie came out for an English thing, and really liked the book. I thought it was good to point out that a lot of the criticism from the movie doesn't actually exist in the book. Also, Viv's character is vastly different. I recommend reading it, it is really fun to read.
I hate that Vivian was the main character instead of Lucy and no one can convince that it’s not because Vivian is white and Lucy isn’t because she is so performative and she has a victim complex like it’s truly infuriating.
I know but the book was written by a white woman so it wouldn’t be accurate
forever thankful to this channel for introducing me to nico hiranga bc oh my-
That's it I FUCKING LOVE NICO 🙄✋he had NO REASON to be that fine
Edit: Its crazy how much the movie has to say about gender equality and minorities. Thank you for speaking up about these issues
I would have love the movie if they didn’t have the white girl as the lead, clearly the black girl knew what she was doing
Literally one second in and I love your accent ♥️
Omg I love your shaved hair it looks so cute. Both of y’all look so gorgeous and beautiful 🥰
Please do more reaction videos because I love y’all videos and I can relate to y’all so much. 🥰❤️
"Quiet."
😮!! I felt like i was in highschool again
There’s some great critical analysis in this video. Loved it! Looking forward to more videos.
Thank you so much!! And for sure sub for more videos like this
They be like”your distracting the class” the only people distracted is your staff