Everyone bashing these guys, but they did a good job considering the conditions. Snow on the ground so it slowed response considerably, heavy fire upon arrival, next in company is also delayed. Yes they did a few things that weren't ideal but nothing is ideal fighting fire, it's definitely not a perfect world. Excellent job guys
in some rural communities the people have jobs that are an hour away. it makes it hard to get enough manpower during daytime runs. I think they did a great job with the limited manpower. these are probably guys that work in town.
Don't say anything bad about the fire fighters they risk their lives everyday to put the fires out just think how hot it must be with all that equipment on especially if it's hot outside here's to all the fire men police officers ambulance drivers 👏👍👍👍👏👏💯⭐ thank you and God bless and stay safe
Considering the very limited resources and manpower, you guys performed VERY WELL Hats off to you all. I hope the occupants made it out safely. I also noticed the handicapped ramp there. Stay safe Brothers and Sisters !!!!!
Are you kidding me? They had 6 men jump off that truck and another from a van. That is crazy to have that many personnel, so your" guys performed very well" idea is a bad observation. The only thing that helped them is the truck carries 900- 1500 gallons of water because the hydrant hookup was crap. 2 minutes for a single fire fighter is easy. Why they needed a gated valve on it is beyond me. If they needed an adapter it should hookup to the hydrant itself and a 25 foot 4 inch supply line to that. The engineer doesn't even know where stuff on his truck is located. Stop giving people participation badges for showing up. Especially something like this were peoples lives could depend on them know what they are doing. The positive is they did pull 2 lines quickly and had them charged, 1 before the hose bed was fully cleared, and had water applied to the fire were it needed to be.
@@allanr6132 The hate this crew is getting. In all due honesty, you have to think. This appears to be a volunteer department, hence the slow response time. Also, we have no idea whether the truck had a full tank. Very well that they could have been training at another department, another town, and got the call. Hence the slow response times. As for the tank, again, we do not how full the tank was. There is a probable explanation for this.
I am a retired firefighter when you are working off tank water your best weapon is steam and it spreads throughout the structure this was a very effective knockdown of the fire great job guys
Personally, I think these firefighters did an admirable job considering the weather conditions and resources available. No telling how far the engine has to come. If it was a volunteer department there was a delay after page for the firefighters to get to the station as well. this is life, fire spreads quickly, especially if it has an air source.
You bet. The hate some people are saying. It was most likely a volunteer department. These firefighters do have lives outside of the department, a regular day job.
My hubby and me have been watching your video's. We decided that in the winter we are going to keep the snow away the hydrant We have one across the road. Appreciate you! Tell your wife and kids, THANK YOU! And to you also!
More than likely a volunteer fire department, guys who have jobs that do this because they want to, working in what seems to be sub freezing weather, on a house fire that had a good head start. Walls are still standing. Contents probably destroyed but they were going to be anyway. I see nothing wrong with this video. I don’t like it when UA-cam “firefighters” criticize what’s going on. Every fire seems to be different. I’m not a firefighter but personally I believe they did a great job here.
You know there's a saying in the fire service risk a lot to save a lot risk a little to save a little. When you roll up on a house fire like that you know it's a lost cost. They did a good job in my book. I'm a volunteer firefighter.
Thay may not be trained well but thank God for volunteers that work all day and do this on there time off. It may not be perfect but how many of us can do what these people do. Thanks to all the volunteers out there
@@colebarker8323 It's wonderful when people care enough about their neighbors, and volunteer to be part of the Fire Department, Ambulance Service, or other service.. That DOESN'T, however, mean they don't have to be well trained... In most states, including my own, a firefighter needs to take the same training, and have the same certifications, whether they are career firefighters, Paid on Call, or completely unpaid. Firefighting can be a dangerous job, and if you are going to do it, you not only owe it to the citizens to be well trained in how to best protect their property... BUT you also owe it to your wife and kids (or husband and kids...) to know what you are doing, so you don't get injured or killed... If you are going to be a firefighter, be a well trained and safety conscious one..
There is a video out there somewhere of a fully involved attached garage fire in Canada. A very similar looking fire truck was first in and pulled directly in front of the fire. In less than a minute they had a deck gun attacking while at the same time connecting 5" to a hydrant. The fire was under control in less than two minutes and saved the house. I'll post the link if I can find it.
at 0.06 seconds you can see my house across the street to the left..( i no longer live there) the house that burnt has since been removed and a new home put in its place. all is good now..
I'm working on the assumption that these guys are volunteers, bearing that in mind I think they did a good job, a bit of a tech issue with the hydrant but at least they had a tank full of water to start off with, good job guys!
Perfect parking, speedy deployment of the pre-connects, and fast actioning for initial knockdown. Great job by a small crew. The only nitpicky thing would be speed catching a hydrant but he looked a bit new at it. Way to go crew.
I would like to add that it may have to the Fire Dept 20 mins to show up but lets also keep in mind how far out the department is, the icy roads and those who are moving slowly cause of it takes them longer to get out of the way, So do not blame the fire department when there is major factors that go with all this
For what they had to work with I think they did a pretty good job. Only thing I would really ding them on is truck placement. I am guessing they didnt look up before deciding where to stop. They got lucky the power line didnt land on the truck
Bummer about someone losing their home. That's a real nice pumper / tanker though. Big money but lots of water to fight a fire so you dont have to grab a hydrant right away when you have a small crew.
Some of these fire departments are strictly volunteer and depending upon how far away the FFs were it takes some time to get there. These men are at their jobs or with loved ones at home the structure is already gone only thing to do is knock down the flames and cool it off they have to beware of the live wire too
Hell, if you have a tank that big.... USE IT! Good hustle, and knockdown. Don't think anyone took in account rather the department is staffed or volunteer, time of day etc. 20 minutes seems a bit exaggerated.
Nicely done considering these guys have limited resources. Got water on the fire quicker than a lot of full time depts. Smart to use tank water until engineer got hooked to a hydrant
By the time the firemen got there and were putting water on it was pretty quick. All they could do was contain it the best they could. They did a good job.
Quick question, why is it that volunteer companies never put scba's on while at a scene. Even for exterior attacks sometimes you need to be on air. It's just weird seeing a bunch of firefighters walking around with no airpacks.
Never heard of a frozen plug? And when the smoke is blowing away from where you’re attacking from you don’t need to be on air. The house was fully engulfed and this department chose to get water on the fire as soon as they got there. Was a great attack and effort. Y’all can say it was a slow response and even a slow hookup to the plug but given the condition and from personal experience in those conditions I would say this department did a great job.
The hydrant next to the truck is painted green, in our area that designates it as a hydrant capable of less than 500gpm. Hydrants are painted different colors to indicate their maximum flow rates and gallons per minute.
It took 10 min for Hardin county to page fire. That's from time of call and pd to tell dispatch it was a working fire and page fire. So pawpawvapes. Don't know your facts then shut your mouth. It took fire 9 min from time of dispatch pageing fire for first truck to be on seen. 3 other departments also responded. Pluss EMS. ALL VOLUNTEERS. That hold a full time job! They are leaving there work or homes and families to respond to any and all that they are dispatch to.
Exactly what I was thinking. I am on a volunteer department, and even if a person calls 911 immediately, that doesn't mean that the dispatcher will set off the tones immediately. Plus people have to think about the amount of time it takes a person to drive from home/work to the fire station, and then for the rig to drive to the scene. Its not going to be instantaneous.
Ok, but..... why two minutes from parking brake toput water on fire????. Bsds the stream didnt looks better than 90 gpm, 150-200 gpm kills it in 20 seconds.
So why did it take Hardin County 10 minutes to page the fire dept.??? That should be almost instantaneous. If that is true, then someone in the dispatching office needs to be fired. But the crew needs a little more training on how to hook up to a hydrant.
That hydrant was frooze and something else was wrong with it . The 2 1/2 off the truck had something wrong with it. There was a second line off the truck. The 2 1/2 got pulled and replaced. If the video was a few min longer other trucks were in route. There were about 4 other towns in route other trucks from the station. These armchair fire fighters are a joke. If you weren't there and you only got 1/2 of the story from the guy that took the video. I'm done with you all . Have a good one.
Elena, it only took you a month to come out with that info. Maybe if you'd put the information out sooner, less people would be saying things. And that still doesn't answer all the questions. Do they regularly check their hydrants???
I have seen so many house fires on UA-cam and what disturbs me is that some of these houses even fancy house seem to built with toilet paper.. zero fire safety. Especially in the USA
good knock with what they had, other rigs might be out doing other calls seeing as its snowing, plus truck probably has a 3,000 gallon tank on it my estimation because its a tandem axle and pretty tall for just a regular engine. only thing i can say about the hydrant is why not keep your hydrant tools in a bag instead of just tossed lose into a compartment. and third just in pay roll and equipment upgrades your tax dollars would go pup by 2.5 million dollars to do a three shift system for career fire department. we both do a job weather we get paid for fit or not doesn't have any bearing on training standards. there is no "part time" firemen
gee you're real smart there Tuck. Ada Ohio has a population of less than 6000 people if you google it. just where the hell do you think that 2.5 million dollars is going to come from? The town's whole budget might not even be that much. Not all these videos are shot in a huge metropolis of millions of people and even more millions and sometimes billions of tax dollars. I think they did damm good job for what they had to work with and the guy filming was only there 8 1/2 minutes.
rigs? you mean rig. where is mutual aid or the rest of the dept. here a house fire like that would have got 7 companies. and in 8 mins they still didn't have the hydrant hooked up. takes less than 2 mins. just saying
mom... have I got it right? She had called 911 TWENTY minutes befor the vid starts? Guys, not all here in Germany ist best at the moment, new nationalsism as an example, but one thing definitely is better: The thing we call "Freiwillige Feuerwehr". Those volunteer fire brigades (verr well trained and equiped) ensure the fire protection in the countryside, in the cities you often find also professional fire brigades. Timing for arrival at the scene in the city: 8 minutes. At the countryside 10 to 15 minutes, it's regulated diffenrently from state to state. That's the law. 20 Minutes? Than it could happen that the prosecutor asks a few really really unpleasant questions. However, we surely have to say that the areas here in Germany are a little more densely populated and that there are (still) volunteer fire departments in each village.
Looks like the probie got the hydrant. But when you have a tanker cross pumper packing 1000 gal of water you have time. Curious about the attack lines. Why just a straight lay?
I think the public, and even insurance companies sometimes, are confused about what firefighters arrive to do. I'm guessing the actual arrival time was several minutes longer than the 2:10 point in the video (police had already been there before the driver arrived, someone suggested they called about 20 minutes before, etc.), but when they do come, it's not to save the house or contents. Those are effectively gone by the time they are getting there and setting up. Their primary mission is to make sure that no one is getting injured in whatever they are going to do next, and to determine whatever plan and equipment are needed for that, and think about the fire type and what a textbook approach to it would be given the conditions, and lay hose, and work on charge from the hydrant, and then look at if or how the fire might spread to other structures, and then do what they can to contain it to the building that it's in assuming that there is pressure and they can. Preventing and stopping fires is what homeowners and other building owners are responsible for. Oh, and if the neighbors didn't get any weenie roasting or marshmallows done in all the time available, that's their own fault--carpe momentis, you know.
@@ReflectedMiles I agree with most of what you said. While it is also nice to think you can keep the fire from spreading in the structure, if you take a look at the smoke coming out the front of that house, the contents (at least) are a total loss, if not the entire structure from smoke damage. Twenty minute arrival is believable IF what Elena Dearth says - it took 10 minutes for the fire department to be paged from when the call was made to when the PD confirmed it was a fire (THIS being the WORST mistake that can be made - a citizen calls in a fire and dispatch waits until a emergency worker (meaning police usually or EMS or firefighter) calls and confirms that it IS a working fire.) Dispatcher, remember "It is far easier and FASTER to turn someone OFF, that it is to turn someone on." Having to wait for "confirmation" looses you double the time it takes for the confirmation to take place. Textbook: catch the closest hydrant, lay a supply line (now usually LDH) and drive past the scene if possible. (Why? First to obtain a water supply so if needed you can fight the fire (YES, even if you DO have a supertanker) and, second so you see three sides of the fire - what if the building had had a L-shape and another section of it extended 100 feet away from what the camera could see?) The crosslays (the first two hoses that got pulled from the apparatus) should have been laid into the crosslay beds in such a manner that one person could pull all 200' (NFPA suggested length for crosslays) by him/herself without kinking the hose. In a way it is an EXTREMELY good idea to have a short length of hose from the hydrant to the hydrant valve. (Hydrant valve - that piece of equipment carried on a fire truck which allows a second (or possibly a third) supply hose to be attached to the hydrant while NOT having to close the hydrant valve to do the connection.) Anyway, unless their water company (who actually owns the fire hydrant) has added a quick-connect adapter to the hydrant, it is HELL (from experience several times, thank you) to hold that 30 to 40 pound hydrant valve up to the hydrant and mate the threads so you can screw the threaded adapter to the hydrant! Carry a threaded-to-quick-connect adapter and place it on the hydrant connect a special 10 or 20 foot "jumper" LDH section to the adapter now on the hydrant and lay the hydrant valve on the ground - FAR easier and faster and now you can a) supply up to two lines with one hydrant, or b) use an second pumper to increase the pressure in the line. You have to go a very long distance (think MILES here) to need to increase the pressure in a length of LDH; however, having to up a hill might require the added pressure to get the water to the top of the hill too.
You also need to take the powerlines into consideration too. You spray water on a active powerline you are asking for trouble. They did a darn good job with what they had.
I looked like the problem was with the connection at the plug and on the line coupling . Good thing they had 3500 gallons to start with that water was making a hit on the fire.
Wow, literally ONE truck shows up and that's it? That has to be a small volunteer station.. damn.. And for one truck, they actually did one hell of a job with that too... You see videos from cities and they send 20 trucks for food cooking fire still in the pan on the stove and it takes them 3 hours to put that out...
They took an oath to save lives, and property. I'm so tired of "they're volunteer". My old dep't was small and volunteer but we trained until we were sick of it, and when a run came we took pride in our work. 2 people here couldn't figure out how to connect a hydrant line and the hydrant was right there!
@Tom H Public Service Oath The most common format calls for the firefighter to uphold and defend the Constitution and the state and to faithfully and impartially discharge the duties of a firefighter in that specific community.
Hydrant hook up issues aside, it looks like they pushed the fir to the un-burned side of the house. You fight the fire from the un-burned side. Water which contain oxygen, can push and extend fire. basic rule of any FF class. and yes Ive been in class and fires.
Too many variables unknown to judge the crew response. Only thin really is they need to get the power shut off before hitting fire with hose line. Safety reasons. Probably certified fire fighter level 1. Level 2 240 hour certification could go Inside and work way to seat of fire as long as structure integrity was still good. But once again, can't judge since we are not on scene and don't know all the facts.
Volunteer Fire Department, long response time (audio said that someone had called 911 20 minutes before arrival), limited resources and training, fully involved structure with no confirmed rescue. Barely enough personnel for 2 in/2 out. Especially with 1/3 of their on scene personnel assigned to water supply. No sense in making an interior attack and getting someone hurt for a building that was lost.
Not necessarily just volunteer firefighting. Weather conditions definitely played a role in responding times.. don't bash volunteers most states require them to have the same level of training a paid dept does, but they do it because they want to.. not for a paycheck
Shut your armchair firefighter mouth you aren't a real firefighter if it's only part time. Plus the water pipes were cold because of the snow. And anyone with a brain would know that. So you just proved you aren't a firefighter you're a wanna be firefighter
working structure fire, 10 firefighters, 1 hand line ON TANK WATER! looks pretty good from my vantage point. YOU TUBE FIREFIGHTERS GONNA HATE! (The armchair firefighters that stay a home and never been close to a burning structure)
TheFireControl Completely 100% WRONG how you going to room B out when your spraying in to room A and there is this thing called a WALL in between...... good luck with that.
@@TheFireControl Bingo! The water goes in one windows and the heat, smoke and humidity go out the other as the rest of the tight house is pressurized. The flames are gone in a few seconds and extension has ended. The temperature drops by 1000 degrees the second the flames are gone.
Some thoughts: Did anyone do a 360 when first arriving on scene? I'm not a big fan of staging right under power lines. Two-and-a-half minutes after arrival before anyone even looks at the hydrant. I'd like to see someone try to turn it on before getting so involved in trying to hook up to it, just in case it is frozen or otherwise inoperative. Pretty good knockdown for running off tank water.
These Brother Fire Fighters do an.ecellent job when the bells go off they gear up an get to the as fast as they can And make an attack plan an put their life on the line to save victims an knock the fire down as fast as they can I am glad to say I was proud to be one starting at 16 and be an F.D.N.Y firefighter on 9,11 and retire a truck L.T. GO GET BOYS L.T. C CAVETT
To remind all negative people if you look at the road it has Snow so they could easily been on another call or are a volunteer company which does there best but if your not giving the firefighters a paycheck then they are responsding from work if there allowed to but yup they should be able to get water quick man there lucky we don't have any pressurised hydrants just dry hydrants they got 2 in 50 ft of the fire building
If they couldn't get water from the hydrant, why would you deplete your tank water by using a blitz attack with a deck gun? What they did was perfect. Utilize your water wisely, keep the fire in check until either you have a dedicated water supply or back up arrives. Apparently you are not an Engine operator or just an inept one, you NEVER deplete your tank water like that!!
With a hydrant right there, they could have gone from tank water to inlet supply before the tank ran out. That was a pathetic job hooking that plug. They had 3 fire fighters plus the engineer. 2 men on the 2 1/2, one on the plug and the engineer on the deck gun would have been the best use of manpower.
Iam wondering why the neighbors couldn't drag their garden hoses to help it looked like a decent neighborhood unless it was soo cold that their garden hoses had frozen solid?
no se como sean los procedimientos alla, pero algo si es cierto y es que corrieron un gran riesgo (el personal), al atreverse a combatir sin antes asegurarse de cortar el suministro eléctrico, se logra apreciar tres descargas que ocurrieron producto del contacto con el agua... de resto muy buen abordaje de la escena
Everyone bashing these guys, but they did a good job considering the conditions. Snow on the ground so it slowed response considerably, heavy fire upon arrival, next in company is also delayed. Yes they did a few things that weren't ideal but nothing is ideal fighting fire, it's definitely not a perfect world. Excellent job guys
A fire will double in size every 3 minutes I did that for 15 years
Nobody realizes how tough a firefighter job is
in some rural communities the people have jobs that are an hour away. it makes it hard to get enough manpower during daytime runs. I think they did a great job with the limited manpower. these are probably guys that work in town.
Pretty impressive knock down speed for a single engine company, especially considering the conditions they are working in.
You bet. Appears that they could be volunteer too. Nice job to them!
Don't say anything bad about the fire fighters they risk their lives everyday to put the fires out just think how hot it must be with all that equipment on especially if it's hot outside here's to all the fire men police officers ambulance drivers 👏👍👍👍👏👏💯⭐ thank you and God bless and stay safe
Considering the very limited resources and manpower, you guys performed VERY WELL Hats off to you all. I hope the occupants made it out safely. I also noticed the handicapped ramp there. Stay safe Brothers and Sisters !!!!!
Are you kidding me? They had 6 men jump off that truck and another from a van. That is crazy to have that many personnel, so your" guys performed very well" idea is a bad observation. The only thing that helped them is the truck carries 900- 1500 gallons of water because the hydrant hookup was crap. 2 minutes for a single fire fighter is easy. Why they needed a gated valve on it is beyond me. If they needed an adapter it should hookup to the hydrant itself and a 25 foot 4 inch supply line to that. The engineer doesn't even know where stuff on his truck is located. Stop giving people participation badges for showing up. Especially something like this were peoples lives could depend on them know what they are doing. The positive is they did pull 2 lines quickly and had them charged, 1 before the hose bed was fully cleared, and had water applied to the fire were it needed to be.
@@stuby2014 more resources the better
That's a 3000 gallon pumper/tanker bud. Plenty of water to use without having to rush tapping a hydrant.
@@allanr6132 The hate this crew is getting. In all due honesty, you have to think. This appears to be a volunteer department, hence the slow response time. Also, we have no idea whether the truck had a full tank. Very well that they could have been training at another department, another town, and got the call. Hence the slow response times. As for the tank, again, we do not how full the tank was. There is a probable explanation for this.
I am a retired firefighter when you are working off tank water your best weapon is steam and it spreads throughout the structure this was a very effective knockdown of the fire great job guys
Spider-Man you steam the fire
Yes sir👍
Personally, I think these firefighters did an admirable job considering the weather conditions and resources available. No telling how far the engine has to come. If it was a volunteer department there was a delay after page for the firefighters to get to the station as well. this is life, fire spreads quickly, especially if it has an air source.
You bet. The hate some people are saying. It was most likely a volunteer department. These firefighters do have lives outside of the department, a regular day job.
My hubby and me have been watching your video's. We decided that in the winter we are going to keep the snow away the hydrant We have one across the road. Appreciate you! Tell your wife and kids, THANK YOU! And to you also!
Short handed firefighting at it's best. Make do with what you have!! Good job boys!!
More than likely a volunteer fire department, guys who have jobs that do this because they want to, working in what seems to be sub freezing weather, on a house fire that had a good head start. Walls are still standing. Contents probably destroyed but they were going to be anyway. I see nothing wrong with this video. I don’t like it when UA-cam “firefighters” criticize what’s going on. Every fire seems to be different. I’m not a firefighter but personally I believe they did a great job here.
good job for a small company.
Totally Agree!
@@richardsimpson3136Good job, huh, would have said the same thing if it had been your home ???
You know there's a saying in the fire service risk a lot to save a lot risk a little to save a little. When you roll up on a house fire like that you know it's a lost cost. They did a good job in my book. I'm a volunteer firefighter.
I fully agree.
For what these guys had for a truck and crew, they did awsome! I would love to see all you youtube geniuses do what they did in the same time or less!
One question not to be sarcastic, don't they have a mutual aid department nearby?
@@erickaegi629 im sure they do. But in snow conditions in a volunteer town help will be a while
Thay may not be trained well but thank God for volunteers that work all day and do this on there time off. It may not be perfect but how many of us can do what these people do. Thanks to all the volunteers out there
Except they get the SAME training as the "paid guys"! Only difference is, the volunteers don't spend 10 hours every day sweeping the fire house!
@@ericpl7227 Washing the fire trucks
Volunteer departments are a joke!
Hey Greg you can screw off. A lot towns across the US have or are volunteer fire departments. I'm a local volunteer firefighter.
@@colebarker8323 It's wonderful when people care enough about their neighbors, and volunteer to be part of the Fire Department, Ambulance Service, or other service.. That DOESN'T, however, mean they don't have to be well trained...
In most states, including my own, a firefighter needs to take the same training, and have the same certifications, whether they are career firefighters, Paid on Call, or completely unpaid.
Firefighting can be a dangerous job, and if you are going to do it, you not only owe it to the citizens to be well trained in how to best protect their property...
BUT
you also owe it to your wife and kids (or husband and kids...) to know what you are doing, so you don't get injured or killed...
If you are going to be a firefighter, be a well trained and safety conscious one..
There is a video out there somewhere of a fully involved attached garage fire in Canada. A very similar looking fire truck was first in and pulled directly in front of the fire. In less than a minute they had a deck gun attacking while at the same time connecting 5" to a hydrant. The fire was under control in less than two minutes and saved the house. I'll post the link if I can find it.
at 0.06 seconds you can see my house across the street to the left..( i no longer live there) the house that burnt has since been removed and a new home put in its place. all is good now..
I hope that everyone got out okay. That's always my hope. My 2nd is that none of the first responders get hurt. Love from Marysville, California
I'm working on the assumption that these guys are volunteers, bearing that in mind I think they did a good job, a bit of a tech issue with the hydrant but at least they had a tank full of water to start off with, good job guys!
Perfect parking, speedy deployment of the pre-connects, and fast actioning for initial knockdown. Great job by a small crew. The only nitpicky thing would be speed catching a hydrant but he looked a bit new at it. Way to go crew.
I would like to add that it may have to the Fire Dept 20 mins to show up but lets also keep in mind how far out the department is, the icy roads and those who are moving slowly cause of it takes them longer to get out of the way, So do not blame the fire department when there is major factors that go with all this
prayers to the home owners. such a sad loss!
still that was a pretty good attack once onsite. Hydrant hook up was less to be desired but all in all good job getting set up
Thanks for sharing this video. So sorry for the family that lost everything
They truly did an excellent job knocking it down!
For what they had to work with I think they did a pretty good job. Only thing I would really ding them on is truck placement. I am guessing they didnt look up before deciding where to stop. They got lucky the power line didnt land on the truck
Those guys did a nice job. They worked with some urgency as opposed to some other fire department videos I've watched.
Bummer about someone losing their home. That's a real nice pumper / tanker though. Big money but lots of water to fight a fire so you dont have to grab a hydrant right away when you have a small crew.
Some of these fire departments are strictly volunteer and depending upon how far away the FFs were it takes some time to get there. These men are at their jobs or with loved ones at home the structure is already gone only thing to do is knock down the flames and cool it off they have to beware of the live wire too
Hell, if you have a tank that big.... USE IT! Good hustle, and knockdown. Don't think anyone took in account rather the department is staffed or volunteer, time of day etc. 20 minutes seems a bit exaggerated.
Nicely done considering these guys have limited resources. Got water on the fire quicker than a lot of full time depts. Smart to use tank water until engineer got hooked to a hydrant
First truck did a good job knocking it down.
Fighting a fire in the winter time is very dangerous, the water that goes onto the road will freeze making it difficult for the firefighters.
Not to mention the threat of a pump freezing up if you don't constantly flow water. We've had lines feeze solid in less than a minute in minus 40.
Seriously fast knockdown for just a single engine and a handful of guys...
By the time the firemen got there and were putting water on it was pretty quick. All they could do was contain it the best they could. They did a good job.
If those of you complaining think you can do a better job please feel free to join a volunteer fire department
Well, they are all experts because they watch "fire fighter" shows on TV!
I am a volunteer firefighter. Yes we know how to hook up to a hydrant....just say👍
That’s what I’m saying go join your local volunteer department and get you some
Big water in that truck awesome rig that right there can save lives and property they need it as seen by the hydrant failure...
You should disable the comments because nobody is ever going to say anything good about this video.
Dont you love when non service people try to tell the trained service people how to do their jobs?
Quick question, why is it that volunteer companies never put scba's on while at a scene. Even for exterior attacks sometimes you need to be on air. It's just weird seeing a bunch of firefighters walking around with no airpacks.
SCBA's, hell, they can't even hook up a hydrant. If they fight fire like they catch hydrants, it's a good thing they stay outside.
Hydrant was frozen....... you know that white stuff on the ground means its cold out right?
Charles Rudish You armchair FF make me laugh,if bullshit was a penny a pound you'd be the richest dude in the world.You should try it sometime.
Never heard of a frozen plug? And when the smoke is blowing away from where you’re attacking from you don’t need to be on air. The house was fully engulfed and this department chose to get water on the fire as soon as they got there. Was a great attack and effort. Y’all can say it was a slow response and even a slow hookup to the plug but given the condition and from personal experience in those conditions I would say this department did a great job.
The hydrant next to the truck is painted green, in our area that designates it as a hydrant capable of less than 500gpm. Hydrants are painted different colors to indicate their maximum flow rates and gallons per minute.
It took 10 min for Hardin county to page fire. That's from time of call and pd to tell dispatch it was a working fire and page fire. So pawpawvapes. Don't know your facts then shut your mouth. It took fire 9 min from time of dispatch pageing fire for first truck to be on seen. 3 other departments also responded. Pluss EMS. ALL VOLUNTEERS. That hold a full time job! They are leaving there work or homes and families to respond to any and all that they are dispatch to.
Exactly what I was thinking. I am on a volunteer department, and even if a person calls 911 immediately, that doesn't mean that the dispatcher will set off the tones immediately. Plus people have to think about the amount of time it takes a person to drive from home/work to the fire station, and then for the rig to drive to the scene. Its not going to be instantaneous.
Ok, but..... why two minutes from parking brake toput water on fire????. Bsds the stream didnt looks better than 90 gpm, 150-200 gpm kills it in 20 seconds.
So why did it take Hardin County 10 minutes to page the fire dept.??? That should be almost instantaneous. If that is true, then someone in the dispatching office needs to be fired. But the crew needs a little more training on how to hook up to a hydrant.
That hydrant was frooze and something else was wrong with it . The 2 1/2 off the truck had something wrong with it. There was a second line off the truck. The 2 1/2 got pulled and replaced. If the video was a few min longer other trucks were in route. There were about 4 other towns in route other trucks from the station. These armchair fire fighters are a joke. If you weren't there and you only got 1/2 of the story from the guy that took the video. I'm done with you all . Have a good one.
Elena, it only took you a month to come out with that info. Maybe if you'd put the information out sooner, less people would be saying things. And that still doesn't answer all the questions. Do they regularly check their hydrants???
Nice job filming -- Debbie
These fire fighters appear to need more training. The guy working the truck seems confused and didn't know what he was doing.
I want you in my community. Apparently you can tell everything about someone just by watching a video!! You're my HERO!!!
SnowyOwl his parents
try frozen hydrant
Hey youtube chief, you ever run a truck before? You ever hear of a frozen hydrant? Go back to your moms basement!
Ada is such a cute little town.
I have seen so many house fires on UA-cam and what disturbs me is that some of these houses even fancy house seem to built with toilet paper.. zero fire safety. Especially in the USA
Its because the large majority of houses in the USA are built out of wood.
Have you thought about becoming a fire fighter on the department? They look to be volunteers
Pretty good job upon arrival. 2 lines deployed quick. Still wonder why didn’t hit the deck gun while establishing water right there.
good knock with what they had, other rigs might be out doing other calls seeing as its snowing, plus truck probably has a 3,000 gallon tank on it my estimation because its a tandem axle and pretty tall for just a regular engine. only thing i can say about the hydrant is why not keep your hydrant tools in a bag instead of just tossed lose into a compartment. and third just in pay roll and equipment upgrades your tax dollars would go pup by 2.5 million dollars to do a three shift system for career fire department. we both do a job weather we get paid for fit or not doesn't have any bearing on training standards. there is no "part time" firemen
gee you're real smart there Tuck. Ada Ohio has a population of less than 6000 people if you google it. just where the hell do you think that 2.5 million dollars is going to come from? The town's whole budget might not even be that much. Not all these videos are shot in a huge metropolis of millions of people and even more millions and sometimes billions of tax dollars. I think they did damm good job for what they had to work with and the guy filming was only there 8 1/2 minutes.
How long does it take to get water from a hydrant?
So i noticed the two hydrants are different colors, are those different water main sizes or a different source?
The colors indicate the flow capacity of the hydrant.
Great job! How everyone is OK
All of you people commenting on how the firefighters be firefighters.. DONT TELL THEM HOW TO DO THERE JOB.
awesome vid, fire in the snow, is this a volunteer dept, very nice rigs, looks like they did a great job to me , im sure it wasnt 20 min
rigs? you mean rig. where is mutual aid or the rest of the dept. here a house fire like that would have got 7 companies. and in 8 mins they still didn't have the hydrant hooked up. takes less than 2 mins. just saying
But they never ran out of water, so it doesn't matter!
mom... have I got it right? She had called 911 TWENTY minutes befor the vid starts? Guys, not all here in Germany ist best at the moment, new nationalsism as an example, but one thing definitely is better: The thing we call "Freiwillige Feuerwehr". Those volunteer fire brigades (verr well trained and equiped) ensure the fire protection in the countryside, in the cities you often find also professional fire brigades. Timing for arrival at the scene in the city: 8 minutes. At the countryside 10 to 15 minutes, it's regulated diffenrently from state to state. That's the law.
20 Minutes? Than it could happen that the prosecutor asks a few really really unpleasant questions.
However, we surely have to say that the areas here in Germany are a little more densely populated and that there are (still) volunteer fire departments in each village.
only one truck must be a small community town with no backup
Looks like the probie got the hydrant. But when you have a tanker cross pumper packing 1000 gal of water you have time. Curious about the attack lines. Why just a straight lay?
Hay bill, what’s green thing over there?
Ohhhhh!
I thought they were red
Thanks
Arrived on scene 2:10...Water flowing @ 4:01...Total steam conversion @ 7:50 WITH 4 GUYS...Can't see much wrong with it....Good job!!
The fire should have been out using tank water and the Deck Gun by the 3 minute mark.
I think the public, and even insurance companies sometimes, are confused about what firefighters arrive to do. I'm guessing the actual arrival time was several minutes longer than the 2:10 point in the video (police had already been there before the driver arrived, someone suggested they called about 20 minutes before, etc.), but when they do come, it's not to save the house or contents. Those are effectively gone by the time they are getting there and setting up. Their primary mission is to make sure that no one is getting injured in whatever they are going to do next, and to determine whatever plan and equipment are needed for that, and think about the fire type and what a textbook approach to it would be given the conditions, and lay hose, and work on charge from the hydrant, and then look at if or how the fire might spread to other structures, and then do what they can to contain it to the building that it's in assuming that there is pressure and they can. Preventing and stopping fires is what homeowners and other building owners are responsible for. Oh, and if the neighbors didn't get any weenie roasting or marshmallows done in all the time available, that's their own fault--carpe momentis, you know.
@@ReflectedMiles I agree with most of what you said. While it is also nice to think you can keep the fire from spreading in the structure, if you take a look at the smoke coming out the front of that house, the contents (at least) are a total loss, if not the entire structure from smoke damage. Twenty minute arrival is believable IF what Elena Dearth says - it took 10 minutes for the fire department to be paged from when the call was made to when the PD confirmed it was a fire (THIS being the WORST mistake that can be made - a citizen calls in a fire and dispatch waits until a emergency worker (meaning police usually or EMS or firefighter) calls and confirms that it IS a working fire.) Dispatcher, remember "It is far easier and FASTER to turn someone OFF, that it is to turn someone on." Having to wait for "confirmation" looses you double the time it takes for the confirmation to take place.
Textbook: catch the closest hydrant, lay a supply line (now usually LDH) and drive past the scene if possible. (Why? First to obtain a water supply so if needed you can fight the fire (YES, even if you DO have a supertanker) and, second so you see three sides of the fire - what if the building had had a L-shape and another section of it extended 100 feet away from what the camera could see?) The crosslays (the first two hoses that got pulled from the apparatus) should have been laid into the crosslay beds in such a manner that one person could pull all 200' (NFPA suggested length for crosslays) by him/herself without kinking the hose.
In a way it is an EXTREMELY good idea to have a short length of hose from the hydrant to the hydrant valve. (Hydrant valve - that piece of equipment carried on a fire truck which allows a second (or possibly a third) supply hose to be attached to the hydrant while NOT having to close the hydrant valve to do the connection.) Anyway, unless their water company (who actually owns the fire hydrant) has added a quick-connect adapter to the hydrant, it is HELL (from experience several times, thank you) to hold that 30 to 40 pound hydrant valve up to the hydrant and mate the threads so you can screw the threaded adapter to the hydrant! Carry a threaded-to-quick-connect adapter and place it on the hydrant connect a special 10 or 20 foot "jumper" LDH section to the adapter now on the hydrant and lay the hydrant valve on the ground - FAR easier and faster and now you can a) supply up to two lines with one hydrant, or b) use an second pumper to increase the pressure in the line. You have to go a very long distance (think MILES here) to need to increase the pressure in a length of LDH; however, having to up a hill might require the added pressure to get the water to the top of the hill too.
@@JB91710 I agree with you, they should have pulled around the corner hooked up the LDH and let the water flow could have saved a lot of it.
You also need to take the powerlines into consideration too. You spray water on a active powerline you are asking for trouble. They did a darn good job with what they had.
Next drill............. Hydrant hookup
Yea really.
takes less than 2mins to hook it up
Its a tanker. They have some water onboard.
They'd better, if they have to depend on this dude catching that hydrant for any.
some water..only 3000gal. it's called a "Super Tanker" for a reason...I worked on one of these big boys back in 80-83, ours was a Howe-International!
I looked like the problem was with the connection at the plug and on the line coupling . Good thing they had 3500 gallons to start with that water was making a hit on the fire.
3500 gallons to start with??
@@jackh577 That is about what have I the tank or a little less.
Wow, literally ONE truck shows up and that's it? That has to be a small volunteer station.. damn.. And for one truck, they actually did one hell of a job with that too... You see videos from cities and they send 20 trucks for food cooking fire still in the pan on the stove and it takes them 3 hours to put that out...
They took an oath to save lives, and property. I'm so tired of "they're volunteer". My old dep't was small and volunteer but we trained until we were sick of it, and when a run came we took pride in our work. 2 people here couldn't figure out how to connect a hydrant line and the hydrant was right there!
@Tom H Public Service Oath The most common format calls for the firefighter to uphold and defend the Constitution and the state and to faithfully and impartially discharge the duties of a firefighter in that specific community.
Hydrant hook up issues aside, it looks like they pushed the fir to the un-burned side of the house. You fight the fire from the un-burned side. Water which contain oxygen, can push and extend fire. basic rule of any FF class. and yes Ive been in class and fires.
R May pushing fire has been proven to be impossible.
You have never been in a FF class if you think "water which contain oxygen, can push and extend fire." Grow up and stop lying.
@@JasmineLindros Some old school people taught it and some guys still believe it. I don't doubt that someone may have taught him those myths
Too many variables unknown to judge the crew response. Only thin really is they need to get the power shut off before hitting fire with hose line. Safety reasons. Probably certified fire fighter level 1. Level 2 240 hour certification could go Inside and work way to seat of fire as long as structure integrity was still good. But once again, can't judge since we are not on scene and don't know all the facts.
You don't need to have the power off before putting out fire, that's nonsense.
Why is it only one truck fighting a four bedroom fire
Got marshmallows?
Are houses in the USA now built out of plastic?
Volunteer Fire Department, long response time (audio said that someone had called 911 20 minutes before arrival), limited resources and training, fully involved structure with no confirmed rescue. Barely enough personnel for 2 in/2 out. Especially with 1/3 of their on scene personnel assigned to water supply. No sense in making an interior attack and getting someone hurt for a building that was lost.
My mom and dad are on Ada's fire department
Wow twenty minutes, welcome to volunteer fire fighting it takes guys a while to get to the house and gear up
Not necessarily just volunteer firefighting. Weather conditions definitely played a role in responding times.. don't bash volunteers most states require them to have the same level of training a paid dept does, but they do it because they want to.. not for a paycheck
Sometimes you have tones other fire department if they on another call.
I've been on a part time dept for 12 years. Why only one truck. And that hydrant hook up was horrible
Ottawa Boy That white stuff on the ground means it's cold. So it was probably frozen.
Shut your armchair firefighter mouth you aren't a real firefighter if it's only part time. Plus the water pipes were cold because of the snow. And anyone with a brain would know that. So you just proved you aren't a firefighter you're a wanna be firefighter
Ottawa Interior Renovations were you there? Did you know why was going on? NO so please keep your Moronic comments to yourself
I wouldn't know how bad that fire was... I just figure restoration or replacement of the structure is going to be time consuming and expensive...
what the hell was he doing connecting supply pipe to hydrant ,,,by the time he done it fire was virtually out
working structure fire, 10 firefighters, 1 hand line ON TANK WATER! looks pretty good from my vantage point. YOU TUBE FIREFIGHTERS GONNA HATE! (The armchair firefighters that stay a home and never been close to a burning structure)
There were TWO lines deployed. I couldn't tell, but hopefully one of them was a 2 1/2".
Attacking from deck gun, in 10-20 seconds the fire its 90% down.
TheFireControl Completely 100% WRONG how you going to room B out when your spraying in to room A and there is this thing called a WALL in between...... good luck with that.
@@TheFireControl Bingo! The water goes in one windows and the heat, smoke and humidity go out the other as the rest of the tight house is pressurized. The flames are gone in a few seconds and extension has ended. The temperature drops by 1000 degrees the second the flames are gone.
@@SeptrothFFXI See my comment.
A nice pretty green hydrant....too bad it wasn't used
Looks like P.D. is doingh an outstanding job of keeping the street closed off
Maybe if they tried they could take even longer to get hooked up to the fire hydrant.
Water supply isn't their strong suite. And, a single engine response to a house fire is inadequate -- to say the least.
Mensch,warum baut ihr in Amerika auch nur Papphäuser mit Holz...????? 5min. Haus weg.
hallimann2008 ya vann es nur gebaut ver mit gold.
Is this a small understaffed volunteer department?
Classic hit hard from the yard.
Some thoughts: Did anyone do a 360 when first arriving on scene? I'm not a big fan of staging right under power lines. Two-and-a-half minutes after arrival before anyone even looks at the hydrant. I'd like to see someone try to turn it on before getting so involved in trying to hook up to it, just in case it is frozen or otherwise inoperative. Pretty good knockdown for running off tank water.
These Brother Fire Fighters do an.ecellent job when the bells go off they gear up an get to the as fast as they can
And make an attack plan an put their life on the line to save victims an knock the fire down as fast as they can I am glad to say I was proud to be one starting at 16 and be an F.D.N.Y firefighter on 9,11 and retire a truck L.T. GO GET BOYS
L.T. C CAVETT
To remind all negative people if you look at the road it has Snow so they could easily been on another call or are a volunteer company which does there best but if your not giving the firefighters a paycheck then they are responsding from work if there allowed to but yup they should be able to get water quick man there lucky we don't have any pressurised hydrants just dry hydrants they got 2 in 50 ft of the fire building
forgot to add if only one rig for a bit nobody in side they should of hit it with the deck gun
If they couldn't get water from the hydrant, why would you deplete your tank water by using a blitz attack with a deck gun? What they did was perfect. Utilize your water wisely, keep the fire in check until either you have a dedicated water supply or back up arrives. Apparently you are not an Engine operator or just an inept one, you NEVER deplete your tank water like that!!
With a hydrant right there, they could have gone from tank water to inlet supply before the tank ran out.
That was a pathetic job hooking that plug. They had 3 fire fighters plus the engineer. 2 men on the 2 1/2, one on the plug and the engineer on the deck gun would have been the best use of manpower.
i live in forest and i heard about that fire
Why was he driving and recording when it snowing
he knows how
I notice only one super tanker working on this, is it in a rural district or what?
Iam wondering why the neighbors couldn't drag their garden hoses to help it looked like a decent neighborhood unless it was soo cold that their garden hoses had frozen solid?
no se como sean los procedimientos alla, pero algo si es cierto y es que corrieron un gran riesgo (el personal), al atreverse a combatir sin antes asegurarse de cortar el suministro eléctrico, se logra apreciar tres descargas que ocurrieron producto del contacto con el agua... de resto muy buen abordaje de la escena
Something so sad seeing a home lost.
I’d watch this to the end but can’t listen to your negativity. Join your volunteer FD and then comment.
Anybody know how to put a hose on a fire hydrant. Am i the one who has to do it.
Worse time to have a fire.
Hmmm let's see....unscrew how?? Lefty loosey, righty tighty is it???
Working fire in the winter sucks !
WHY DONT SOME ONE HIT THE HYDRANT
Rule number one never make a fire angry
I used to live in Ada studied at ONU .. lol
silly fella.. thats just one room lit off.. flashed!
Only 1 engine for a house fire?
426///// The video did not show the arrival of the other departments. Frozen hydrants always a challenge.
Bet it's during a work day
This guy kept saying they are never going to put it out with one engine. Bruh.😂