Electribe EMX-1 and ESX-1 - Tube Replacement and Calibration
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"Electribe EMX-1 and ESX-1 - Tube Replacement and Calibration"
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I replace the stock, factory tubes on both of these vintage Electribe grooveboxes!
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Hey thanks for the video, was just about to replace the tubes in my esx & emx. Super helpful to see the process, and know that I'm doing it right!
Some fun tube facts:
The tubes in the electribe are "drive tubes", they're designed to distort the signal rather than adding warm harmonics. Tubes more commonly used for amplification have the subtle characteristics that many are looking for.
The interesting thing about drive tubes is that their character varies more drastically than other types. Swapping to a different type of drive tubes can give you different overdrive tones.
The the tubes these electribes shipped with are the same kind of 12ax7 that are more commonly used for drive in guitar amplifiers.
Thanks for watching and for the info! Hope your swap goes smoothly!! 😁🙏👊
“Yes, put on the gloves. Don’t attempt anything without the gloves!” as Withnail once said 🤣🇬🇧
This was quite a nail biting episode! Well done on this delicate operation, mate.
🤓👨⚕️🚑🔧💉
Thanks, Buddy! 😀 👊
*REALLY HAPPY* with the sound quality upgrade from these new tubes! WOW! 😃
All things considered, I think I kept it together pretty well for the camera! lmao 🤣
Hey man, I hope you read this, great video, it helped me a lot! I also have the EMX and ESX and wanted to replace the tubes, and it worked fine with the EMX, absolutely no problems at all, once again great video! When I wanted to replace the tubes on the ESX I got the same message as you, "Ajst (L) N.G". I was actually quite happy that you got the same message as me, for the fact that you got it to work. But I tried it three times now, checked everything, put the knobs in the right place, switched the input to MIC, everything. So that's where I'm stuck now. What I find weird is that it worked on the EMX just fine, same cable, same tubes. I got that cable specially made from a trustworthy source, and once again it worked with the EMX. I don't want to mess with it too much I don't want to ruin the whole machine, and thinking about giving it to a Music-reapir shop, so they can take a look at it. It would be nice to save some money, so maybe you got any tips or advice? Once again, great video and I hope to hear from you soon and have a good day!
Hey Hey! I'm sorry, but as you can see from this video, i'm not an expert in this, and what you see in this video is the only advice i've got for this procedure. 😀 👊
In the end, switching the tubes helped me get it done. (That was just lucky I think...)
@@ElectronisoundsAudio Hahaha yeah, I see that you are not a complete expert 😂. I just wanted to ask because you are the only person who I found that had the same problem. I tried switching the tubes, unfortunately I got the same result. Thanks for the quick response and for the tip! I'll be heading to my repair man in a couple of days and post an update when I get the machine back, in the case that other people got the same problem. Thanks again and have a good one!
@@Leviathan-mj8gi Thanks for the message, the device is at my local repair shop now so they can take a look at it because what I didn't notice before (I don't know how I missed it) the left and right outputs are a bit funky meaning sometimes more volume on the left side then more on the right side it seems to have contact issues. That's my biggest lead right now, the tubes are brand new and the same tubes that I installed on my EMX (the calibration process went perfectly on the EMX) and we're properly installed. I also followed the manual step by step multiple times and checked the each knob every time. I think because of the outputs being "funky" it wouldn't let me calibrate, or there is something wrong with the tubes. But as I said it's currently in service and I can't do much now but thanks for your comment and I'll post an update when I get it Back. I think I'll even try the calibration process in the shop and hopefully it works if not they can take a look at it again. Have a good one!
@@Leviathan-mj8gi yeah I love this thing to death, I hope my baby gets better soon
Ok so I just got the machine back from my repair shop, he said he had to re-solder some contacts. He told me he had some experience with the Electribes, and usually he had to re-solder the regular L, R Outputs, but with my machine he said those contacts were fine, but one PCB board below was where the problem was at. I unfortunately don't know exactly what he re-soldered, but he did re-solder something, just not where the problem was usually at. Anyway I'm at home now, tried the calibration aaand... It works. I got through the calibration process with no problem at all, both "Ajst L" and "Ajst R" were at "0000" and the calibration process was successful. I hope this is going to be helpful for some people and thanks to @Electronisounds Audio and @Leviathan
While I was watching the video I thought... "oh man, try to switch the tubes.. It could be the answer"... Then in the end... You did it! Fantastic 😂😂
Ha! Nice one! 😀
I was super let down that the ESX was not cooperating, and I figured it couldn't hurt to at least *try*!
So stoked!! WOOT! 😁🙏👊
I've watched thriller genre movies with less tension lol, my heart was in my mouth. Well played sir!
Hey Hey! Thanks for checking it out! Both the EMX and ESX are still working great, and these new tubes sounds really good! 😁👊
The oils thing really just depends on how hot the tubes run. What will happen is after a certain point the part with your oils will heat up more than the surrounding glass, which causes differences in degradation which in the end can cause the tube to break sooner.
Thanks for the tutorial and sound pack - I've installed a fresh set of Tung-Sols and the Adrenalize. Hats and other toasty highs used to distort, and the reverb was metallic and horrible. Effects now sound great, and I can crank on the filter/resonance for some really fine acid zorps. I love this machine - thanks again for your help in updating it!
YAY!! Awesome!! 🤗😁👊
Wait, the tubes can make the reverb not sound awful? How is that possible? I was honestly planning to just get a better reverb pedal and use the individual outs to sidestep the issue.
Lol. This was amazing man. I was sweating with you just watching this!!! Awesome video
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching, Homie! 😀 👊 I'm so stoked! They both sound great! 🤓 👏
Electronisounds Audio I think you held it together very well throughout the whole process too. Mine involved alot more swearing
@@PoyntToo lol- There would have been so much more if the camera wasn't on - HA HA HA! 😏🤣👊
Another good alternative 12AX7 Tube you could try in your Electribes is the Gold Lion ECC83S, they have gold pins, and I have three of them installed in my Marshall MA100C guitar amp, to my ears they sound like a gainier 12AX7/ECC83 Tube, you can order them online from Evatco.
Thanks for watching! :)
hope you are building a emx set with "samplechains" to maximize the number of sounds you can have per pattern. i'll def go buy that!
esx i mean..
I love to use my esx in similar fashion to the way i use the digitakt. locking samplestart to access different samples in a chain. I don't love managing and bouncing samples tho. Would be nice to see more esx samplechains around ;)
No, it is a very straightforward bank of sounds.
It is not a "Master user" only product where you need to dig through sample chains.
My sound bank contains 326 new, original sounds/samples I've made and I'm making 64 new patterns with them.
I don't like unlabeled sample chains. I like easy to find, labeled sounds.
I am not using the ESX like a DIgitakt, sorry.
@@weisland2807 I don't use it that way - You should get more into managing and bouncing samples - you can have exactly what you need - you just need to make it. 😀 👊
Hmm, I was planning to make just bypass of those tubes but I think I might drop in some JJ ones and do bypass with switch as I cannot definitely decide if I want it with only surgically clean output, and if they lower noise floor as you said, I think I should give it a go. Nice video btw
I used jj tubes years ago and love them still. Great choice.
Great, I like how you kept the mistakes in! I'm a complete klutz with hardware, you should see my soldering ...
I'm trying to keep it real! lol (The first one sure went smooth, though! WOOT! lol) 😀 👊
thx alot
Big Ups and GOD LUCK with replacing yours! 😁🙏👊
What excites me about these amps is the potential to change the sound just by the tubes! I scored an emx 1 for $250 yesterday which I feel like is an amazing deal. Can't wait but I think with it so cheap I might need a tube repair. Watching your video!
Hey Hey! Thanks for checking it out and GOOD LUCK with your new EMX! 😁👊
WHEERE YOU FIND IT? I WANT ONE SO BAD
@Jook mercari, the thing is insane. Came with the manual sounds amazing, Ruby tubes so they were replaced at point. SD card version. Crazy live effects, first box I feel like I could do a live show with. Really straight forward layout. ESX 1 is definitely on my list
@@jook8330 You can still find them on ebay and Reverb, just pretty pricey... :)
Happy to say ive made the cable since i got the resistors today. Done a quick job on it nothing fancy and it worked :D . Only had 0005 on both channels now calibrated both to 0000 plus the valvemx also been calibrated. Not having any distortion at all and mine are the jjecc83s. I was having distortion with them before hence why having the cable is essential so the emx knows and adjusts itself to it.Great sound love the new tubes nothing like the nasty electro harmonix ones. Time to make some more acid tracks! :D
In case you start having trouble with jittering you know what to do. All the best and keep making what you love. All the best Dean. Regards , Filipe.
AWESOME NEWS! YAY!!! 👏👏👏 Let me know if you upload any videos with it!! 😀 👊
I thought about recording them on youtube but then others will simply rip em off with a youtube downloader so putting my music in the internet is a no go. Take care,
Filipe.
Great video. In the end, I think you didn't turn the knob up *before* pressing 16, that's why you got the blinking and "Calb low" error.
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching and GOOD LUCK if you are attempting to do this! 🤗😁👊
Thank you very much. Your video guide me through the process.😎
Sweet! I hope it went smoothly! 😁👊
"This is an extra deodorant type of day." I know the feeling bro, lol. I know the feeling. Thanks for doing this video. I wanna get the EMX used for a really cheap price and was worried about the health of the tubes. Now I know that you can replace them, I will make that purchase.
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching!
Good luck finding the perfect EMX at the right price! You're going to love it! So much fun!! 😀 👊
I need to find or make that cable though, lol.
@@pep7890 Yeah....... That's a tough one for sure! 😁👊
I just won an eBay auction for of these missing the tubes, thanks for the video!
Thanks Uncle Howey!
Haha, Indeed! Hey - thanks for watching! Almost 3 years later and it's still working! 😁👊
🎉 Congrats man! Glad you got it to work in the end after all. Good thing you didn’t give up. I was almost shitting myself as well. I know that crappy feeling when it doesn’t go as planned. Alrhough i don’t own any of this gear myself it was still very cool to watch. Great tips, especially to see that these surgical gloves can also be used for some musical related things... I had to think back of my recent doctor’s visit 🥺. I liked your video better though 🤪😂👍
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching, Ed! 😀 👊
Whew! So glad I got it finally, and didn't give up - now anyone else who gets that error message might be helped by my video! lol WOOT! 😏
amigo hey muy bueno saludos desde tijuana la musica nos une colega esa korg es una bestia hermosa de calidad de audio ELECTRIBE made in Japón
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching! 😁👊
Very helpful! Thank you!
Hey Hey! Good Luck! 😀 👊
I also used gloves some people say the grease off your fingers can affect the tubes overtime so who knows. Anyways im going to try and build the cable for myself and calibrate them properly. Plus be aware these tribes can develop knob jitter issues and watch out for the encoder knob aswel. I bought one recently off ebay and had to fix all that. Never getting rid of it again ever.
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching! 😀 👊
Yeah, i've been really lucky so far - no jitter issues yet on either of my vintage Electribes. (Crossing my fingers!!) lol 😏
@@ElectronisoundsAudio np nice to meet you and thanks for your videos. You might get jitter someday as all tribes do. If you do its due to contact from the upper board to the lower board. When i got it i noticed if i would apply some pressure on the metal casing around where the writing is patterns step songs and so on the values would change without touching any knobs. I fixed mine by making sure the ribbon that connects the boards doesnt touch the upper board. Some other people isolate the boards with baking paper but for me the ribbon worked. As for the encoder i had to open the knob , be very careful removing the tabs and removed the liquid solution which was very sticky and closed it , again very careful. Now everythings alright. Also the feel of turning the knob feels way more solid. Some other people might try using a contact cleaner which may help but i never tried that. Some others replaced the knob but then the problem comes back so i think that opening the knob is the best thing and clean the plastic part of it.I love my emx1 its the best tribe ever as the esx1 is. I had an Sd one before and had same problem so had to open it and just cleaned the knob which was full of the liquid solution. Didnt have to open the knob that time but this time had to as the solution seems to dry overtime and starts to get sticky. It becomes really annoying when the encoders like that and values keep skipping back and forth all the time. I just replaced the valves with 2 jj ecc83s. Sounds great. Just waiting on the resistors to build that cable and properly calibrate it. I calibrated it manually rotating the 2 resistors where the tubes are so i get a proper balanced left and right but i think i really have to build that cable so the brain of the emx properly adjusts them and tells me what i have to do. I really struggled a lot to get them properly balanced and had to turn one nearly all the way to the left. So that cable is essential. I own a smartmedia version and it rocks :). And again i'm never getting rid of it ever again!
great video! thanks a lot!
Thanks for checking it out! Good Luck on replacing your Tubes! 😁👊
Thank you for this video!
Thanks for checking it out! GOOD LUCK with your Electribe! 😁👊
@@ElectronisoundsAudio I have some super fancy telefunken preamp tubes that I stuck in there, didn't bother with the calibration... sounds really good surprisingly though as most people say the tube circuit is a gimmick but I actually hear it passes the signal through the tube circuit and it does affect the sound.
@@HenryHearse Oh Yeah, It definitely passes through there - the tubes I put in sound MUCH better than the tubes it came with and I can push a lot more level into them before it sounds distorted! WOOT! 😁👊
Great tutorial
Thanks, Michal! 😁🙏👊
Is it possible to buy the cable not make it? I have no technology knowledge to make cable but i can change a lightbulb
It's not possible. They do not sell them. They do not want the average consumer changing the tubes. 😁👊
Like I say in the video, you'll have to get a Electric-Savvy person to follow the instructions and make the cable.
Try a local electronics repair shop? Bring them the printed out page of the service manual I link to in the video description.
Try and get them to make the cable.
Where can I get the cable for calibration? And which tubes do you use?
Hey Hey! 😀 👊
The only way I know of to get the cable made, is to have it custom made by someone who understands the cable build illustration in the maintenance manual.
I got super lucky in that my Uncle was able to build the cable from that image and specs.
These Tubes: www.eurotubes.com/store/pc/ECC83S-Gold-Pin-Balanced-and-Matched-38p117.htm
I may need to solder a new knob for the fx2 edit. Any tips? Noob here
Sorry, Bro - I'm not a solderer - I couldn't even make the calibration cable! lol
All knob replacement(s) i've had done by somebody at a local shop. 😀 👊
Thank you so much!!! Now I have to try!
Good Luck!! 😀 👊
YOU GOT THIS! 👍
@@ElectronisoundsAudio help me please! what kind of resistors I need to use? 2.2MOhm and 1/4 W, but tollerance? (1%, 2%, 5%, ecc)
@@VicFist707 Sorry, Claus - I don't know. I didn't build the cable myself. 👊
@@ElectronisoundsAudio i got an answer by the Korg support. The minimal possibile, max 5%
@@VicFist707 Sweet!! 👍👍
Nice. Super please you got these tubes replaced and sounding awesome. I never did see the grown man you mentioned at the start of the video though?? :) lol
lol - Oh Snap! 🤣🤣
Thanks for watching, bro! 😀 👊
Electronisounds Audio never miss an episode :)
@@sonicneutronic 🤗😁👊
hi! i realize this video is old, but... but i was wondering if you or anyone else know of any way to procure a 'calibration cable' aside from soldering one yourself... i have an EMX-1 with factory tubes and i've already ordered two matched mullard 12AX7 tubes... i want to do it right, ya know? anyone have any clue as to where a 'calibration cable' can be found??
Hey Hey! 😀 👊
The only way I know of to get the cable made, is to have it custom made by someone who understands the cable build illustration in the maintenance manual.
I got super lucky in that my Uncle was able to build the cable from that image and specs.
@@ElectronisoundsAudio this may seem ridiculous, but would you be willing to sell me that very same cable?
@@theeghostal Sorry, got to keep mine. 👊
Hey! You can buy a Jack TRS cable to Jack TS cable, usally this jind of cables ends with the mini Jack TRS (Smartphone or tablets) Then simply grab a good quality Jack TRS adaptor to make it bigger and then calibrate your Electribe.
@@rckstr3419 NO - this is FALSE and could damage your Electribe. You need a ***SPECIAL CALIBRATION CABLE*** not just any cable. There are ***SPECIAL RESISTORS*** in this cable. it is not a standard cable.
I did the calibration but I still have a major difference when panning left to right. Has anyone ever fixed this issue?
Hello thanks a lot for this video ! I'm considering changing the tubes more serenely now. Maybe some of you could help me because I have a question and I can't find the answer : I got an unit recently and I'm almost sure tube amps are dead because if I raise just a little bit the tube gain I have distortion. So if the tube amps are dead and need to be replaced, does that mean that the sound of master volume is altered even in the tube gain is at 0? Or if I decide to not use the tube gain volume, I can't keep this unit like this?
I'm asking this because sometimes I have the feeling that even with the tube gain at 0 sound on master volume seems saturated on specific factory preset (especially when couple bass / kick is activated). Thank you
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching! 😁🙏👊
The original tubes that were in my unit caused more (bad sounding) distortion that pleasant gain sound as well.
That's why I felt the need to replace (upgrade) them in the first place.
These new tubes sounded WAY BETTER than the tubes that were originally in there.
For sure, you can still use the unit with no tube gain though... Does it sound ok when the knob is at zero?
If so, then you could for sure just stay that way, but the tube drive is really nice when you have BETTER QUALITY tubes put in there! 👍👍
Thanks a lot! I finally did it and it's night and day, and I have lost absolutely all my background noise, this is insanely quiet!
@@tomjoyce75 WOOT! Nice one!!! Happy beatmaking! 😁🙏👊
jealous, I want that blue model
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching! The Blue one is still awesome! 🤗😁👊
Hi - I just purchased an emx1 that appears to be in excellent condition. All works well, the adapter looks in pretty nice condition as well. My only issue is that after using for an hour or so, I noticed the back center-right gets pretty dang warm. I’m guessing this is normal for a synth with tubes and all metal casing. I just wanted to make sure before the warranty runs out at GC if indeed this is not normal.
As a second inquiry - the sine and triangle waves are extremely snappy unless they have some cutoff added. Is this a matter of taste for using sine waves like this? My mc707 gives you a choice if you want hard or soft sine waves. And most synths have an ADSR to trim the attack ever so lightly. I kind of like the percussive aspect but it also sounds poppy like a badly chopped sample. Thanks
1. Yes - it gets HOT.
2. Sorry, I don't know. But of course you can't compare it to a modern, MC707 in any way... ;) This is ancient tech by comparison... There is always weirdness with ancient tech... ;)
@@ElectronisoundsAudio cool thanks for the reply. Doing a little research, classic sine waves have a lot of pop to them and most analog synths do as well - but I guess I haven’t noticed it as much because of ADSR and the ability to change the attack ever so slightly to round out that millisecond of snap sound + some VA synths modeled their sines with less pop - which leads us to the mc707 and its ability to adjust that and give us an option in a special setting apart form the adsr :)
Hello E.S.Audio - I have the Electribe ES-1 Mk2 Gold Sampler. Might you have a detailed beginner guide video on how to use each section Sir? I really love the sounds in it and I just don't know how to clear and recreate my own beat so that I can mix it and do the fun add efx and such w all the knobs.
2nd... Does pattern 1 always sound lower the the other 3 when you push record to add another sound??? If you have a beginner's guide I truly believe you'd be helping a lot of ppl whom still have a sampler in 2020! Hope you can create a tut for us new-b's or djs that can incorporate the sampler while djing!!!. Thank you E.S.Audio
Hey Hey! Thanks for watching! 😀 👊
I wish I could be of more help, but unfortunately, I do not have that exact unit.
I used to have the original ES-1 way back in the 1990's, though! 😃
If I come across one of the MKII units for a good price, I might be tempted to pick one up! 😏
Is it possible to buy the cable not make it? I have no technology knowledge to make cable but i can change a lightbulb
Mate have you checked direct emx? I got mine. 👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
I checked these out, but in the end - I decided to pass on these plugins for the electribes. 😀 👊
You just get more gain without getting new harmonics from tube distortion . better than original gain wise but not what it is suppose to do. those electribes tubes are more decoration than anything else. Long life to those amazing Electribes.
Where can I get this Mono/ Stereo Cable ?
You'd have to make it. They don't sell it. I explain in the video.
@@ElectronisoundsAudio Ok Thank you
A bit late to the party but I'd like to try this. Anyone have any information on how to make the tester cable, or a place one could get one?
Likewise, late to the reply, but the service manual describes the cable wiring.
Both stereo signals need 2.2M resistors in series before they connect together as the mono input signal.
Don't get a pre-made mono-to-stereo cable that is sold for driving two inputs from a mono output, as for that fan-out application it would not have resistors.
Without those resistors, the stereo channel amp outputs will be shorted together, and current will flow between the *outputs* when they drive to different voltages. 😬
As the unit will only be driving the tube for one channel at a time during calibration, at the very least the calibration will be affected.
Hey man could i ask for some help:[...so i recently bought an electribe emx1 and the sound output only seems to come out thru my left speaker but im connecting my speakers thru the headphone jack with an adapter from 1/4 to 3/4 jack could that be my problem? and should i just get some speakers that connect to the trs 1/4 outputs of the emx1? hopefully im making sense :/
oh and also maybe could it be the preamp tubes?
When you plug your headphones to the EMX-1 directly, with no adapters - do you get sound from both left and right channels? If yes, then the problem could indeed be with your adapter. Ideally, you would plug the left and right 1/4 outputs of the EMX-1 into a mixer, then plug a set of monitor speakers into the mixer. But you can go direct from the EMX-1 to a pair of powered monitor speakers if you need to. 😀 👊
Electronisounds Audio unfortunately i don’t have any headphones with that size jack :( and i tried some speakers connected to a mixer that my dad has same issue audio only coming out the left channel/: but it does show on the mixer that there is sound for both left an right channels
Electronisounds Audio or perhaps i have things connected wrong... i connected the speakers to the mixer and from the mixer to the emx i can hear from both speakers its just that if i pan to the left it sounds the same as the center and when i pan to the right i cant hear anything
Electronisounds Audio oh man! sorry for all these replies but i jus switched the adapter and i can hear from both now with my regular earphones im not sure what went wrong with the speakers an mixer situation tho :| none the less im happy...for now
How do you make the calibration cable?
As I say in the video - I did not make it. My uncle made it for me, following the EMX-1 Service manual. These is a link to that manual in the video description if you want to have a go. 👊
Hello. The link on how to make a calibration cable does not work. Please give me a working one.
Please try google same as I would have to do .....
@@ElectronisoundsAudio I'm sorry, there is a link for dealers. You need to register. Is there an easier way to see how to make this cable?
@@Orthod0x What you specifically need is the service manual for the EMX (or ESX). If you type this [ electribe emx-1 calibration cable ] into google, it comes up readily. 😁👊
Although, I do want this video to be good info years from now, so I've decided to host the service manual download myself, So the link won't go bad this time. Here you go: www.dropbox.com/s/9oj3plyxic3japb/korg-emx1-electribe-service-manual.pdf?dl=0
NEW LINK!! www.dropbox.com/s/9oj3plyxic3japb/korg-emx1-electribe-service-manual.pdf?dl=0
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Hey Hey! Thanks for the support! 😀 👊
dude now they sound the same
Huh? The same as what? Each other? These are ***different machines*** they do not contain the same sounds. The red one is sample based, the blue one is not. Of course I would want to upgrade **both** machines.... (???) They do not sound the same. Your comment makes no sense. 😀 👊
@@ElectronisoundsAudio gain sounds same now
So I see you replace the tubes in there first thing you lose the value force to sell second of all those were platinum tubes
I disagree. The stock tubes are not hi-quality tubes, and the new tubes I put in sound night and day better.
Upgrading the factory tubes does not lower the value of the unit.... ? In fact, i'd say it is the opposite.
Seriously -----------> The stock tubes are *not* "hi-quality" tubes and sounded dirty and distorted (not in a good or pleasant way...).
Regardless, i'm not looking to sell it 😏 - i'm looking to use it - and it sounds *fantastic* with the new tubes installed! WOOT! 😀 👊
Here's one jam with it I got on video: ua-cam.com/video/4Htz0rMkaoM/v-deo.html
Did you ever get to the bottom of the red electribes error, because my electribes doing the samw whilst trying to do the collaboration
If you watch to the end - I switched the tubes left and right and it worked that time. I have no idea why it did that. 😁👊
@ElectronisoundsAudio thanks mate I will try that when I get a minite, so stressful 🤣🤣