Crusades From the Muslim Perspective - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY
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Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of medieval era, as well as the history of Islam and the Crusades, continues with a video on the Crusades from the Muslim perspective, as we try to see how the Islamic world and its scholars reacted to the Crusades to the Holy Land.
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Can you make a video about the battle of Didgori and David the Builder? The Battle of Didgori was fought between the armies of the Kingdom of Georgia and the Great Seljuq Empire
A lot of Muslim content on this channel, is it something because of your patreons?
Any plan on making a video on indian history again? Maybe on 1805 siege of bharatpur?
One notion. You should say catholic states instead of christian states, as crusades were waged against christians as well. The Waldensians were one of the christian groups that were persecuted by the catholic church
I love the brutal simplicity of medieval and early modern ethnography. Europeans tended to call all Middle Eastern Muslims "Turks", and it also turns out people in the Middle East just called European Christians "Franks".
Nomenclature in Aniquity and Medieval age is very debatable and problematic to comprehend and study because that was very beggining of concept of naming stereotypisation of the unknown cultures.
Muslims no matter what ethnicity depend on historical age are called variously by non-muslims. In christian Europe they were known as "Saracens"; "Moors"; "Turks", etc. In other hand Christians were called "Rum" (Rhomeian/Greek) and "Frank" (Probably name for all Catholics).
Either Franks or Latins. Look at Age of Empires, Europeans were always either Franks or Teutons.
To be fair, the majority of crusaders were French and if not French then they were German or English.
Slavic and other type of crusaders were rare.
We await the coming of Turkish Frank, he will unite us all
Some still do this. In Sicily the elders call all middle-easterns and Northafricans "turks", especially in Palermo
What really took the cake was at 8:59, when the graphic showing al-Qalanisi chronicling the crusades went right to left, because Arabic is written right to left. Outstanding attention to detail as always! You guys deliver once again!
most Semitic languages are like this. Hebrew is like this as well
As a person born in Orthodox Christian European country Bulgaria where along with most if not all of Europe its written left to right so with right hand it's funny cause I use the left hand to write.
@@ivokantarski6220 Ya i was going to say try writing as a lefty
i was just about to comment on that when i saw this....... Kings and Generals showing their amazingness again.
the kings and general team are muslims and I believe Arabs themselves.
It is always nice to see different perspectives on a single event and not just one. I think more people would be better off doing this. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
I think even European had misconceptions about the Crusades. For example the belief that the crusades participated by younger sons who had no inheritance.
@@blugaledoh2669---Yeah it's possible everyone on both sides had misconceptions about these wars.
This not a different prespective.
It's a cherry picked account that doesn't talk about crusader atrocities amd portrayed muslim account as biased and corrupted by personal experiences. It belittles Muslim scholar as naive enough to make their opinion based on narrow mindedness and ignorance.
@@brokenbridge6316 yeah many Muslims seem to think that the Crusade was a early form of European colonization.
@@blugaledoh2669---For all we know. It probably was.
It seems like the Arab view about the Franks isn’t really much different from the ancient Romans and Greeks, who thought the cold climate of Gaul and Germany is what made them uncivilised, but also what made them great warriors at the same time.
Great warriors?
@@aokiaoki4238
Yeah Romans thought Gauls and Germans made great warriors caused they lived in harsh, cold climates with little luxury.
Aristotle also believed climate determined what people were like.
*Aristotle writes in his Politics 7.1327b that the peoples of Europe and colder climates are naturally full of spirit, but they lack intelligence and skill, so they live in freedom, but they are incapable of building great political institutions.*
*He goes on to contrast European peoples with the peoples of Asia and warmer climates, who he says possess great intelligence and skill, but lack spirit, so they are able to build mighty empires, but they live in perpetual servitude to despots. Finally, he concludes that the Greeks, who live in between the two continents and the two climates naturally have all the best qualities of both and are therefore fit to rule over all other peoples*
The 14th century scholar Ibn Khaldun also thought Franks and Slavs were dumb because they lived in a harsh (savage) climate, writing:
“The country of the Franks is situated in the cold, northern part of the world, along with the Khazars, Alans, and Turks. It faces out to the northern part of the Enclosed Sea. The natural climate of that land would, naturally, lead to people dumb and ignorant like animals, and many people of that land like the Slavs know no religion and dress in animal skins. But some nations of the Franks and Slavs, like some Turks and Ethiopians (who live in similarly savage climate), received religious law in old times and kept to it."
@@joellaz9836 Full of spirit doesn't mean great warriors, rather emotional and undisciplined according to Pausanias. Byzantines beleived the same. I haven't find any Medieval source describing them as good warriors.
@@aokiaoki4238 Europeans have always been great warriors
@@aokiaoki4238 If that was the case, Byzantines would not have hired the Varangian Guard and other Latinkons. Europeans have always been great warriors, from Antiquity to nowadays.
This goes to show that the framing of when a conflict begins and ends can effect the way we think about an event.
It's like which came first? The chicken or the egg. I suppose you can go back to when modern humans came from the Middle East and replaced the Neanderthals.
Eg. Israel
I watched Fog of War in which Earl Morris interviews McNamara. What I found interesting is that McNamara said if we had lost World War 2 Americans would have been put on trial for war crimes.
He cites our bombing of cilvilans and compares cities in Japan that we wiped out in similar size to Amerian cities. I would also add our unrestricted submarine warfare.
On The Media (it about what exactly you think it is). Talked about bias being more than political. You also get narritive bias in which framing can make the subject more sympathetic.
True words. Just look at the 1nd and 2nd WW as a single conflict or the continuing war of the people against the elites since the American and French Revolution wich hit an early apex with the introduction of communist states and the modern hypercapitalism. Unfortunely were currently losing the war...(qoute from warren buffet)
@@therenegadepianotechnician5170 The egg came first.
Really interesting video. On a related note, are you maybe planning to do a similar one on the Muslim perspective on the Mongol invasions? They were far more destructive to the Muslim world than the crusades so they should have left a far more permanent impression, right?
Well, I am a Muslim and an Arab and I can tell you that they are barely mentioned or even remembered. I don't even think a lot of people even know about them
@@neofadhel1643 Oh, ok. I would have thought that the conquest of Persia or the sack of Baghdad would be traumatic events.
@@TheSirBrainbug They were... For the people that lived back then. Nowadays Muslim propaganda may focus more on, like the other person said, "the Horrible and Evil West".
@@luisdonoso6154 which it is. Horrible and evil.
I think the other reason why the mongol is not mentioned much is probably because the ilkhanate is eventually became muslim as well
But this is just my opinion
"Major cities of the Islamic world like Baghdad hosted hundreds of thousands of inhabitants while Paris and London hosted twenty thousand each".. I know it's a bit away from the original topic but as a person who's born in Iraq It breaks my heart to see what this great nation has become nowadays .. Hopefully we will build our homeland one day .. pardon my poor English btw ( My second language😅)
Edit : I can keep taking about my point of view forever and people will still misunderstand me🤦🏻♂️
Edit2 : please read my reply regarding (US/IRAN) carefully then I will answer your questions.
Edit 3 :- I'm not replying to anyone one anymore💀
Love iraq from pakistan 🇵🇰
Your English is excellent. And I also hope to see a strong, prosperous Iraq again, with Baghdad as a world city! Brotherly greetings from the US!
(Also, I know saying 'sorry' is nothing compared to the pain and suffering my country inflicted on yours, but I hope we can make it up to you somehow)
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For history enthusiasts, recommend the book called "The Crusades through Arab Eyes" from Amin Maalouf. The book is really good at explaining the people's situation and political state in muslim nations.
No
@@joelaut2605 COPE
@@joeroganstrtshots881 most intelligent westerner
Amin Maalouf is not a muslim so he is biased against.
I generally don’t trust Muslim historians.
The fact that this channel covers different perspectives makes it so versatile and is the best on UA-cam imo
This channel puts out Islam focused videos like every week. Pretty sure we know who sponsors them 😅
@@scottanos9981 lol so typical. If they made videos focused on Christian or European matters, you wouldn't say something like that. But if they focus on Islam it can only be because they are being sponsored and somehow propaganda and not because they find it interesting.
@@Redfield199 What else can you expect from a schmuck like Scott there?
@@scottanos9981 Who sponsors em? + What's wrong in putting out Islam focused vids?
@@Redfield199 Exactly, there are channels like BazBattles who never make Islam focused videos or cover Islamic battles but cover sometimes only the battles which Muslims lost. No one calls them out for being Christian centric or having shady sponsorship.
At the end of the video you mention that the crusades don't have much impact on modern culture, I believe the levantine crusades really don't, but the reconquista basically formed the Iberian culture and has a great impact on Latin American culture.
Looking for a video about that in the future.
There is nothing in History as "Reconquista". There was the military expansion of peninsular christian kingdoms and the motivation was very different.
Any academic reference to iberian culture influence from the crusades?
Great topic suggestion!
@@carlospargamendez4784 the motivation was to restore christianity, and rule iberia as a roman culture state insteand of an arab muslim one. yes its ok to consider it a reconquista.
@@carlospargamendez4784 historians generally agree that there were several ideas behind reconquista including the arguments here so both are true, but creating christian kingdoms was a big goal. That's why many Muslims either converted or were expelled.
"They saw Europe as a cold, savage place covered in mist."
Accurate.
Not true 😒😡
@@Mitrandhir true😡
@@Mitrandhir True
Accurate description of Birmingham
And Europeans thought of middle east as a barren desert,unbearable heat and uncivilised tribes
The crusades are rarely talked about from the Muslim perspective, so I found this video very interesting, thank you for bringing it and I hope you take more videos of this type
Hence the importance of translation.
For instance, as an Arab I always wondered about the views of the west on muslim conquests, since all what we read comes from the muslim point of view.
That’s not correct, there are thousands of books and drama plays and tv shows and poets about the uncivilized brutal and savage invasions “Franks” did against different Islamic states in the medieval period and about the heroic battle such as Hittin and about the significant muslim figures of that time. But, who would translate that.
Yeaa because they took Jerusalem and than said it was always theirs.
@@mariomaz0124wel I sa a video of kings and generals that first moslims go in to Spain then wanted to go in Frans but the deed blundering and stuf in France so the France acted against those blundering and defeated a Muslim invader. Later on the crusade happened.
@@maikilreategui1271we’re talking a thousand years ago at that point there’s no right of land because the land was ruled by a king and his nobles and the people living there were just resources
This is why accurate and impartial history education is so vital. Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart, with hatred looming in it's cellar. Thank you Kings and Generals for the service you do to humankind!
While the scientific approach to historical events is vital, legend and mythology is very important too. Myths get a bad connotation these days, buts they are the force which gives a society cohesion and willpower to fight through difficult times. What would be of the Reconquista without the myths of Pelagio and El Cid? Learning the science of history is not abou debunking myths more than it’s to understand why they exist.
"Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart." Beautifully put, thanks for that.
This reminds me of that book by Amin Maalouf "The crusades through arab eyes".
great book indeed
We have a copy at home of this book, truly a very interesting read
“eyes”
@@darthbanana7 “through”
4:39
"Started off with protecting Constantinople..."
"Accidentally razed Constantinople to the ground!"
It was just a prank bro
We will never forget the genocide done by Pagans in our city of Constantinople
@@aktradingcompany9035 I almost cried when watching the episode about the Crusaders in Constantinople
Opps.
@@aktradingcompany9035 who were the pagans?
This is why I prefer Kings and Generals to Armchair Historian. "From the other perspective" videos here are actually diverse and accurate, and videos cover a very wide range of topics from areas like India and Arabia that deserve more attention. Thank you!!
Haven't watched yet but as a Muslim I already know and trust that K&G did an amazing job on covering this as neutrally as possible. Keep it up!
As a Christian, I can tell you that the catholic church waged war against my kin as well.
As a pagan I take offense to not be mentioned.
Ibn al Walid wants to see you with his army now
@@Xrisus94 as a Koopa I'm offended by Italians
they are not neutral. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral.
I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre!
if you want to see a 'neutral' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is neutral
Sultan Saladin - the life and legend by Jonathan Phillips.
It is a well balanced account of the pre third crusade the third crusade and the lasting legacy of Saladin
Thanks
The sultan was a Kurd by the way
@@theawesomeman9821 wait salahdin was a kurd ?? didn't he come from Egypt ?
@@cebonvieuxjack he was born to kurdish parents in a kurdish village in modern day tikrit, iraq.
@@machtvonhre8979 uh, well thanks for the info !
Wonderful video! We in the West hear virtually nothing from the Muslim side and rarely consider how the Crusades were viewed from their side. Great stuff!
The loss of christian lands, destruction of church of holy sepulcher.
"We in the west", don't project your own lack of interest for a certain subject (which is totally fine) onto others. Try to speak for yourself instead of for, you know, 1,5~ billion people.
On the contrary, despite Muslims still being a relative minority, I hear virtually nothing *but* the "Muslim side" of things lol. Not only that, I see and hear way more *of* them, disproportionately to the exclusion of others. E.g. I hear nothing of Hindus/Sikhs despite their diasporas being comparable.
@@anthonyreed480 not sure about sikhs but msot definitely hindus, and rarely do we talk about the armenian apostolic church or the zoroastrians, the long gone tengriists etc
@@kenzo5096 I know English isn't your first language but the comment I'm responding to said "In the West" and, yes, the Chinese - like Muslims - are a minority. I'm not sure what point you think you're making.
You really have to respect that they make these high quality videos without showing any bias towards any side and with complete objectivity. Another job well done.
@@andreydragomirov8559 They are just showing the perspective of the Arab kingdoms, everyone has their own view on things. If you look at the videos on the Crusades, they show it from the Crusader perspective. If you are arguing about the science and stuff, well yes, the Ayubidds were fairly farther ahead in sciences and medicine than Europe in the early crusades. Both religions were also prone to violence and to our eyes archaic laws. I understand you are probably anti-islam, but this is a view on history from primary sources, not an opinion video.
@@andreydragomirov8559 yes... none so far... you can see they are open to accept correction/s... if you have any correction to do, you can specify the exact wrong and tell the specific correction/s...
@@andreydragomirov8559 "exaggerating european evil doings..." the thing is, its you who interpreted the video-lecture as such... the message in the video is that, just as there is "jihad" by muslim nations, there is "crusaders" by west europe nations... understandably/naturally, any story has bits and pieces added otherwise it cannot be a story or a lecture but a recitation of statements/sentences...
I think they are biased. just listen to the video when they said 'only europian perspectives are described'. as a muslim raised in a muslim country I already know many books were written and videos were made on this topic from our perspective. but K&G simply ignored that. this only means they are refering to themselves as a western channel covering their topics from western perspective only. so they can't be neutral or unbiased.
I can also point many times when they were clearly not neutral at all. for instance compare their video on the arab culture before Islam to their video on the danish people. in the video they made about early muslim war with the byzantine they openly tried their best to show the muslim victory in the battle of yarmok as a lie. even tampering with the animation. not to mention they went as far as blaming Saladin for the massacre of Acre!
if you want to see a 'unbiased' western video on muslim history, I recommend that you watch History March. just compare their video on the battle of yarmok to that of K&G and you will know why you are wrong to think this channel is unbiased
@@andreydragomirov8559
You reduce christian warfare to 300 years of crusades, and reduce jihad to warfare.
You shouldn’t be talking about ”authority to lecture”.
Seriously so jealous at how much quality content Kings and Generals puts out!
Stop commenting the same thing every video
@@swellerferret2506 its the other way round. Baisically all videos about thw crusades were from Western perspectives until relatively recently
@@swellerferret2506 Nobody blames terror attacks on the crusades only the stupid people do that. It was the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th Century into states which did not align to religious or ethnic people groups. If you look at the 50s 60s and early 70s the middle east generally was stable and prosperous. The subsequent unnecesary wars in Iraq caused the most problems as the US stayed in the country years after they had won. Then many weak states such as Iraq and Syria had a lot of instability during the Arab spring a western supported ideal. The disbanded Iraqi Army went to many extremist groups after 2011. And you seriously want make me believe that 9/11 was actually done by Al qaeda. If you even research enough the Taliban agreed to had over bin laden but the US did not want that. Focus on your own countrys extremists who shoot schools and riot at the capital building looting at blm protests ect. Most death in the 20th century and 21st century were caused by Christians and Athiests who were at the top
@@swellerferret2506 Haha, stupid old logic as always. Now imagine this; either Byzantines or Sassanids have defeated their foe and formed a massive kingdom, what do you guess they would do next, sitting beside a potential world power (i.e. the arab caliphate, had they stopped their attacks beyond jordan)? They would've definitely invaded the arabs or forcefully made their vassal eventually weakening them. The key point was of timing. The arabs attacked at the best time possible. Had they not, they would have been become slaves in the coming centuries. Only a fool blames someone of invading for balance of power( provided there is no massacre or there is no active peace treaty ) Even though the arabs were not waiting for the imperial empires to weaken, they just happen to have their matters sorted out the instant the empires were exhausted. Anyone blaming muslims for invading christian lands is either islamophobic or a complete idiot since the latter would have done the same
@@swellerferret2506 I have read many accounts of arab conquests such as those written by Hugh N. Kennedy and Robert G. Hoyland but I never came across your accusations.
The era of Amir Ibn al-As al-Sahmi showed prominent expansion in Egypt. Upon entering the surrendered city of heliopolis, monophysite Christians that had suffered on-and-off persecution at the hands of Constantinople, rose up against their Roman oppressors. Although they were unhappy of the jizya tax upon them.
This is the summary of the accounts of a renowned historian.
While the accusations you present are the writings of bishop john of nikiu, a person who after seeing a humiliating fall of his Christendom was furious against the Muslims.
If you take a look at his volume; the chronicles of John, you can clearly see the lack of continuity and the lack of interest in areas not fancy to him. In his book he claims that he has described the history right from Adam to Arab conquests of egypt, but in reality, he has just written on topics that were concerned to him with exemplary biasness and prejudice. He has not even mentioned once the brutalities of roman realm and theodore, the ruler of heliopolis.
Your call
Never stop posting, i find every video very valuable and cannot think of a better way to spend my spare time ❤️👌💯
One of my favorite stories from Ibn Munqidh is where he went into the mosque of al-Aqsa, which had been occupied by the Templars at the time. Despite their modern association with being zealous and intolerant of non-Christians, they provided a him space to pray, though this was interrupted by a Frankish man who didn't understand why Ibn Munqidh wasn't praying to the east, and so the Templar had to eject the man. However, he managed to escape and tried to turn Ibn Muqidh again, after which the Templar explained that the man had only recently arrived, and didn't understand why Muslims would pray towards the qiblah.
Though still cursing the Franks "(the scourge of Allah upon them!)" in his texts, he still denotes that: "Among the Franks, we notice those who have come to dwell in our midst and who have become accustomed to the society of [Muslims]. They are greatly superior to those who have more recently joined them in the country which they occupy. They form, in fact, an exception which must not be made into a rule," which goes to show a very unique culture between the poulain that settled within the Levant to the Latins who took their booty and returned to Europe.
Interasting very interasting
He says the templars were his friends.
@علي ياسر
One of the countries.
@علي ياسر
They did.
They were dispersed amongst many countries, Switzerland, Malta, Portugal, Spain and indeed Germany too. In fact some went to Scotland and England.
They gained prominence in Malta and Switzerland just because they are small countries, but they were influential in other countries too.
It wasn't Muslim land so he can cry all he wants about it
I got my grandpa into your channel and hes been loving all the Roman videos and the Middle Eastern HIstory!
You guys have outdone yourself here. I am a big fan of this period in history and enjoy reading & watching content on this period. This is the first time I encounter a piece looking at crusades from the others point of view. I like 👍🏽
Great video! I never thought about this type of question.
If you're doing more on medieval warfare, would you consider one on how the knightly orders worked? The Templars, Hospitaliers, Teutonics etc. I've tried researching it myself but it's still confusing.
They already made videos on those Crusader Orders
@@theawesomeman9821 I did not know that, thank you.
@@readingking1421 Your welcome
"This enabled both sides to have a stereotypical view of each other" --- excellent wording.
Look, let's be honest: this is a brilliant video. Just awesome. It will be featuring in my classroom teaching as well. Keep up the great work!
So glad to see a fellow history teacher! Best wishes, historical knowledge and perspective is sorely needed in every country's schools today!
@@aaronmarks9366 Great to connect work another passionate history teacher too. Do you follow the History Skills channel as well?
History is the best subject I have at school, God bless history teachers.
Yay another Kings & Generals video. You guys have been on a roll lately.
Watch Christian Prince...Islam is a Total Scam...
despite the difference prespective between both of them, i love the warrior heart aspect inside both of them, they fight for what they believe is right. peace be upon you all brothers and sisters.
Yes so lovely they kill each other like madmen
i love how he also covers parts of history not taught in school
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I am not a patreon ,but I wish these videos were a bit longer..
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Oh I had no idea just how much I needed a video on this topic.
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Correction on Kitab al-Jihad: the literal translation of the book’s title is incorrect and doesn't even mean 'holy war' which is literally translated to Arabic as Al-harb Al-muqadas. The term jihad comes from the tri-root word juhd which literally means effort. So 'jihad' actually means to struggle or exert one's utmost effort. Otherwise, this simple video was a nice watch that doesn't include all the details mentioned in many history books and accounts by Muslim scholars and historians.
i thought the same. translating jihad in simply holy war it's so inaccurate
This is very whitewashed. Kitab Al-Jihad was written in direct response to the first Crusade and says that muslims are called to make war with Christians at least once a year. The "spiritual" jihad is only a means to the outer struggle, being war with infidels, underscored by the belief there will be a worldwide caliphate one day. Why even try to kid anymore?
Yeah, jihad means struggle. The lesser Jihad is a fair and justified non-agression war to please and gain favour of Allah, and the greater jihad is the war against your nefs (evil desires, temptations and inclinations).
War in Arabic is Harb.
Struggle in Arabic is Jihad.
Ibnu al Athir my favorite historian to read about when i was in school. He wrote so many stuff about history of not just in the middle east but also in Asia and Europe.
Another great one from Kings and Generals, Thank u kindly Sir!
15:12 G.W. Bush also referred to the invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a crusade, which naturally revives this paradigm
We didn't wait Bush's discours to call it a croisade. But we find it زلة لسان mean A slip of the tongue. That confirm the view of the majority
@Mosaab نعم هو it is not happening with a possibility of turkey but none else, and even turkey doesnt have that high of a chance id put my bets on india, although indonesia could be considered somewhat of a candidate for the muslim side, not exactly an islamic state though
@@Cecilia-ky3uw India?????
@walid walidos get your head out of anger my friend. Stop looking at people with a hateful and ignorant heart.
@Mosaab نعم هو آمين
It seems to me that most of the Muslim scholars have the same perspective as Christian scholars, that it was a battle between religions, rather than a battle between political entities that incorporated religion to justify their actions and war.
it was both and much more depending on how you see it
an ethnic conflict
a conflict for resources
a conflict induced by climate change
a conflict induced by over population
a conflict induced by social strife brought about by rigid social classes
my opinion : its all of them to some degree
@@anon-iraq2655 I think for the foot soldiers, they saw it more along the lines of religion than the leaders necessarily did
@@waqasahmed939 That depends on what side you were on. The Christian foot solders were mainly doing this because they thought it would grant them salvation, like that was what they thought was the point of this and that's why they joined in such great numbers. The Muslims however probably had motivations that were much closer to home, they were maybe defending the place they lived or they were just fighting because they were part of the army their lord had raised. As times goes on though the Muslims would more and more start to see this as them defending against an existential thread to Islam, which definitely would motivate them a lot more.
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For many, that was teh case. However, I have serious doubts that as many would have gone simply at the urging of teh Pope if there was not wealth to be gained.
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There is rarely one reason. I personally see religion as an incentivising factor, rather than a root factor.
Such a Good Channel.
Thanks to Kings and Generals Family.
Intro statement nails it. I encourage further exploration of this perspective in all applicable topics.
Love it. I get dopamine high when I see a new KG documentary.
Great, more of this. History always depends on critical assessments of perspectives.
I can't get over the bird noises in the beginning and end! Enthralling video, as always ❤️
For anyone looking for a book that uses excerpts from many different Islamic scholars to sum up the Islamic perspective of the crusades, I would suggest *Arab Historians of the Crusades* by Francesco Gabrieli, it is great!
A video about Templar Knights, Assasins and Seljuks is a good idea. Maybe with Ubisoft sponsorship 😁
Ubisoft would find a way to ruin the video trust me
They already have videos about the Assassins and Seljuks.
There's always two sides to history, and I love seeing both of them.
Especially where they disagree, usually points out interesting events.
Your perspectives on embracing diverse viewpoints in history are enlightening! How do you believe considering multiple angles enhances our understanding? Additionally, your insights into framing's impact on conflict perception are intriguing. How can we ensure nuanced interpretations?
I'm fascinated by history. Tell us more about Reconquista!
All of historical events would be better to tell this way. Both perspectives are very important to us.
Phenomenal video I greatly thank you guys at the K & G channel for your very meticulous research and respect for other perspectives. I hope one day instead of fighting and bickering and all the nonsense embroiling these two great faiths , comes more understanding between their peoples. Best of wishes in the new year!
I also think that way. If this hatred continues, in future people will no longer adhered to ties of religion. Which is not good.
@@raquibhasib1710 Actually religion dying out would be best, religion has already held back civilization for millennia, the quicker the better. Especially considering ya'll can't even decide which skydaddy is the correct one. It just funny to me how all sides are so convinced "they" have the "correct" belief, as if it was just indoctrination from birth that reinforced this belief.
TL;DR Skydaddy hasn't ever, and will never exist. 🤣😂
@@jonhall2274 I believed in religion.
In 🌍 so called strong/ elite society did , doing and will do a lot of unjust work ( murder , robbery, rape u name it) against poor/ weak people. Do you really think this will go without payback ???
@@raquibhasib1710 🤦♂️Considering it's happened for literally multi-thousands of years, with people far more faithful than today, and yet nothing has happened.🤷 Nothing will ever happen, because skydaddy doesn't exist. 🤣😂
Great video, but I have to point out one thing. Never underestimate the power of the ideas created around crusades. In Middle East, things grew organically, so it was very convenient to relate Crusades with colonization efforts. We would probably have the same thing should the Ottoman empire colonized the whole Europe. It is, however, also wrong to say that only some politicians in Middle East use Crusades as a political argument. Remember George W. Bush and his reference to Crusades? It was such a powerful reference and such a strong motivation to rally people around. So, the myths of Crusades are alive and healthy (and dangerous) on all sides. It is great that you put so much effort in clarifying these events, so we have less myths and more facts. That really helps. Great job!
ironically in Turkey the crusades are just seen as a another day at the office. The Turks were more concerned about the other Turkic/Mongol powers to their east then they were the christians of the west. Keep in mind that the Turks had already conquered larged parts of europe even before many of them became muslim.
You don't really know what you talking about... People are taught that crusades were evil in Occident
@@juanchicruz6551 Not in Turkey their not. Turks conquered both the Muslim world and much of the Christian world too. For them its the nature of fighting, you win or you lose. They don't cry like babies over it.
@@billyjesus5442 I said Occident
@@juanchicruz6551 ah yes, i live in england ive never seen the crusades taught as evil in schools or on tv here?
Great stuff - a needed perspective - more if you can would be appreciated
Muslims' view on European crusaders were similar to Europe viewing Vikings. Savage yet strong.
Nuraddin Zengi and Baybars had the best win ratio against Crusaders, Saladin although reputed more, failed to produce a decent record losing several battles such as Montgisard, Acre, Arsuf, Jaffa, Belvoir,...
Yes brother your right from Turkey
Based
It is a pity that this information is not in the video
yet Saladin is the one that broke them the most at Hattin and their failure to take Jerusalem in the third Crusade , let's not undermine one's work and appreciate all of them
But Salahaddin was the one to capture Jerusalem, and that trumps everyone. That little fact about being reputed more, is not one to sneeze at. ;)
I think this is the best historic video I've ever seen ❤️ from any West channel.
Very neutral, truthfull perspective ❤️
Specially the last part when you said about present day situation.
well good to know you're straight up admitting to a thousand year old grudge lol. might explain why they live in the stone age.
as a cypriot from Amathus.. i have to admit. i am m impressed by how well you research is. u pointed paphos was the capital of cyprus back then. correct. nicej ob
I really I really love those counts of when they talk about the Europeans from the other cultures and how they saw us back then. Actually it's still relevant today
The manga and anime Altair: A Record of Battles (Shoukoku no Altair) really took the Muslim perspective almost precisely as laid out in the plot and story, and also how it is explained in this video. It is however still a fiction; many events and historical figures portrayed are greatly exaggerated or changed to fit the narrative of the story.
@Eva Goodwin I know, that's what I said.
@@--Paws-- I’m gonna check this out. Thanks for letting me know. I needed a nee anime to watch. I like Arslan Senki as well. A good one for how corruption plays out.
thank you for making this wonderful video. perspective helps
Excellent work .. fair assessment and objective
Correction!
In 7:54 you translate 'Jihad' as holy war which is not correct.
Holy War in Arabic is 'harb muqadasa' whereas 'Jihad' means 'to strive, to struggle'.
In fact, the term 'holy war' was first used by Christian crusaders against Muslims.
The thing every Frankish children learn the most at school about the crusade episodes, is that moment when Saladin sends his own doctor to diagnose and treat Baudouin IV le Lépreux, king of Jerusalem. This event shows Saladin was a honorable enemy, even if he was a sarrasin de ses maures.
What does sarrasin de ses maures mean and what is the origin of the name
@@jaaackaissa1633 "Sarrasin" was the word for "muslim" during the medieval time of the outremer (oversea, crusader states).
I believe it's "saracen" in English.
"Maures" is the French spelling for "moors".
"Sarrasin de ses maures" is a joke and an insult I just invented, only a French speaker could understand.
It sounds the same as "sarrasin de ses morts", which designates him and his dead ancestors, in an insulting way.
Pk tu l’aurais insulté lol
@@BruneSixtine only dishonarable men insult honorable men. So that say’s a lot about you
@@Cosmo_2100 Only susceptible men who lack basic sense of humor would feel insulted. I guess that says something about you ?
I religiously listen and research your videos and comments...valuable and useful about History reprating itself...Thank yoo
I respect the channel a lot for this. I guess we need more people putting reality out there.
Lmao the way barbarossa just dissapeared is so funny
He drowned in a river.
@@thedstorm8922 Salahudeen was quite relieved as the german host posed quite a dilemma. Even with the ressources of egypt and syria fighting against three european kingdoms namely France, England and on top of that germany would have been a serious stretch.
I find it hilarious that it's mentioned in just about every crusade video. My favorite is from History Matter where it's just his name and then a quick clip of him sinking headfirst into the river.
The thing most people so not know is that he was a fairly impactful monarch before the crusades, instrumental for shaping the beginnings of a lot of history that would even impact our modern world.
Barbarossa was 60 years old and likely suffered a heart attack
The book of Oussama Ibn Mounqidh is a very good book to read. It's short but you can see the perspective of a muslim on the crusade who are curious, where the ennemy is more the islamic court scheme that the new warrior of the west etc... a book that you need to read to understand the crusade !
Interesting. Always love your content.
It is absolutely great to have the crusade in muslim perspective as well. We never talk about that from this perspective. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication. A fan from Sri Lanka ❤️.
It feels like the muslim perspective is a continuation of ancient mediteranean view of the world, as divided between the civilised coastline cities and the barbaric north.
More like remains of the Roman Empire.
They had the same view on climate as the Romans and Greeks or that’s what I get from what reading medieval Arab sources, which essentially say cold climates create uncivilised and savage people, but good warriors.
@@jaif7327 ibn khaldun describes it well when he talks about the creation and the fall of empires
The Muslim point of view is as skewed as some Christian points of view and the civilised Mediterranean nations had nothing but contempt for the islamic world but at the same time viewed northern Europeans as barbarians .
I don't think so. It is more a clash between to religious points of view. The romans and the greeks didn't have nothing like this
7:55 Jihad (جهاد) - n., Struggle; derived from the root word Juhd (جهد), which means effort, or labor.
Jihad does not mean "holy war".
indian : "i will pretend i don't see this"
@@agentopaque3776 huu.. i'm not even referencing there.. i'm just referring to a lot of indians who misinterpret jihad... :()
في المعنى اللغوي تعني بذل الجهد
وفي المعنى الاصطلاحي تعني القتال في سبيل الله
You don't need to whitewash the religion and its terms to appease to the white man of the West.
Jihad literally in a linguist sense from its roots means Struggle. But the homonyms include a holy war.
Jihad is justified and completely legitimate whereby a Muslim ruler declares war on the enemy.
The only difference is the term is tainted today by proxy terrorists and the West
@@ertugrulbae46 exactly.
KnG owning it. Was just watching their Pacific War series and NOW THIS?
These guys have no chill!
Un excelente video, como siempre
Understanding the modern world requires an understanding of history, especially from each others perspectives. The Muslim world as the video points out largely saw the western colonial expansion as a continuation of the crusades.
As part of their independence struggles many Muslim nations adopted symbols dating back to the crusader period like Egypt which adopted the eagle of Saladin on its flag. European sailors and pirates operating in the Indian Ocean were also referred to as Firangis (Franks).
The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf is an amazing book about the topic
Very interesting! You have earned a Sub sir!
hope you do more of these other culture's perspectives, like the channel Voices of the Past
History is a funny thing, "perspective" is almost always from the eyes of the beholder. The "crusades" were a two way street, and when one realizes that, history will become much clearer.
I remember when President Bush remarkably used the term crusade.
And there was a french general who went to Saladin's grave after ww1
@@nabilrise1551 20 years later, his country was occupied by the Germans LOL
“Saladin, We’re Back!” So France’s general Henri Gouraud is said to have declared when he entered the Kurdish warrior’s tomb beside the Umayyad Mosque in August 1920 after the French had seized Damascus.
I hope we get more video's about the Amazigh tribes, there is so much history left there.
I just hope they do history about battle of three kings/oued Leben/battle of zelaqa which was important in shifting world's history
in my country(Indonesia), while studying the history of Islamic civilization. The reason for the crusade was because of the defeat of emperor Romanus in the manzikert war. Emperor Romanus was betrayed by aristocrats, nobles, and the church, when he went to the battlefield in his capital already appointed by the new emperor. So that his army which initially numbered 200 thousand so divided only 50 thousand left and eventually lost the war manzikert.
The Muslim army that won the war captured the byzantium emperor and did not kill him but paraded him to the gates of Constantinople with the flag of tawhid in his procession. This incident is considered the cause of the crusade.
Tragically, Emperor Romanus faced a coup by John Doucas, his political rival. Emperor Romanus' wife was forced into the monastery, while she was imprisoned in Sicily. After pledging not to reclaim his throne from Emperor Michael VII Doucas, Romanus was blinded on June 29, 1072, and died shortly afterwards from a severe infection from the threading of his eyes. In 1084, the Seljuk Sultanate conquered Antioch (now Antakya, Turkey) and the City of Nicaea in 1092.
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@@KingsandGenerals I don't know. I don't feel like you are completly impartial on that assessment.
@@KingsandGenerals right now, as you order my king/general, my cesar.
Also great video even i dont even seen it
@@KingsandGenerals Just fiction. Nothing historical.
Love break downs on fictional conflicts especially fantasy ones! Definitely will check down that channel!
That was different and I believe pretty fair both sides were mentioned on having committed atrocities it made me want to look up some of their historians writings
Amazing video and narration !
What is the name of the soundtrack played on 2:00 ????
The most civilized comments section in all of youtube. Amazing video, breaking eurocentrism helps us all have a more broad and moderate view of these historic events.
Alhamdulillah. Being Hispanic and Muslim, i tend to follow my Moorish ancestry's example, and ive always wondered what my Muslim brothers and sisters perspective of the Crusades was.
@AbdulloTOLİB Im sorry?
@Misericordia United States.
Greetings from Turkey bro❤️
Nice to see this video.. I request you do some separate video about SALADIN AYYUBI
4:05 and 4:13 I love how the passing of those Muslims is announced by a Church bell tolling.
In Romanian school history lessons we are taught about the battles against the Ottomans as "late crusades"
Are you going to do more medieval history videos?
i supose that you are patreon? be cause the video just get upload and you have been here 8h ago.
Watch Christian Prince...Islam is a Total Scam...
@@yakovmatityahu haha you must be joking "Christian prince".
@@yakovmatityahu Totally!
@@benmeir24 watch cp brother...he is an arab christian...he exposes this scam left right and center 😁
Arabic and Turkish subtitles are mandatory for this video!
just as a little clarification. "Kitab-al Jihad" would translate to "Book of struggle" or "Book of striving" and not "Book of holy war". "war" is "harb" in arabic in this connotation.
Ah this reminds me of a book by Prof. Carole Hillenbrand, The Crusades: Islamic Perspectives
There is another important book about this subject by Amin Maalouf. The book's title is "The Crusades Through Arab Eyes." I highly recommend it.
@@dangin8811 He is not a professional historian, but as a frankophone Arab author he is deeply interested in both civilizations.
@@dangin8811 how is he wrong, I want to hear your thoughts on that book
@@dangin8811 The Crusades and the wars preceding it were just like the rest of history wars of expansion and re-expansion and control. Islam grew in the middle east and started to expand and conquer (which was a thing that pretty much everyone did), the Europeans fought back, but the mid-east was too far to effectively control so they ended up losing. I agree with you, that while the crusades started with the 1st crusades. The conflicts are much older. Although I also think if you start connecting every conflict to another one, well then our ancestors with stones were probably fighting the crusades.
@@faheem65asssyes, Christianity was spreading by preaching and miracles. The Islam spread by killing and enslavement. For hundreds of years, all those lands were Christian. Poor Armenians suffered the most by being displaced.
Its great to know from both sides
would like to have seen the mention of raiding prior to the crusade
George W Buch described the war on Iraq as a holy crusade.
Seems apt.
Love this alternate perspective!
In the last statement it should be made clear that the unimportance of the crusades to modernity is only in discourse and in (most) westerners minds, but not a historical fact. I feel that it did a great impact on Europe with consequences leading to nowadays, including the construction of the image of the islamic world in the West and an "opening" to a bigger world
Jihad does not mean (holly war), it means striving or struggling