Explaining the Secret of Rhodes (Red Dead Redemption 2)
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- Explaining the secret of Rhodes that revolves around the camper's story, NPCs' gossip and the gunsmith's son.
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I like the theory I put together from reading other comments. The gunsmith was telling the truth and that accident really happened. Sammy fell into the river and Jasper didnt find him, so he thinks he drowned. BUT the townsfolk either found him (in a really bad neardeath shape) and decided to kill him ("relieve from his missery") or just decided to not help him at all, let him to die. They never told that to Jasper and they regreted it later. That would be the reason why they are reffering to this incident like a "kill" and are ashamed of it.
a whole town keeping a secret from one man? weird
@@mike496 then what are you suggesting they should have done? Told this grieving father "yo, we're sorry for Sammy. He's in no condition to survive so we let him die"?
You should know this channel. This guy.
Is never right..
The boy in the basement and the Rhodes mystery are separate.
@@mike496 I mean... he is the gunsmith I doubt they want a killing spree
@@ShatteredGlass916 it doesn't matter cuz that's not what Rockstar made happen
Sammy’s drawing was even better than John’s lol
But like John he was unable to swim
@@Brother-Dorkins hahah
Cant herd, cant swim, cant draw
@@SgtAiden He can draw iron plenty good.
@@unncommonsense good one
I've always liked how Rhodes and the surrounding area felt, but I never knew how deep the basement encounter went. Really adds to the mysterious feeling Lemoyne in general has - great video as always!
I don't like Rhodes. Or the entirety of Lemoyne for that matter. There's just something about all that red dust and lazy vegetation that puts me off. The whole place feels sinister. I much preffer to hang around Strawberry. It feels so chill and fresh in the mornings when the sun's rays are breaking through the tree tops while I'm smoking a ciggy, watching some guy fish on the bridge.
@@user-vt4hd8hb4v probably the racism
New Austin and Ambarino have the weirdest vibes for me
@@user-vt4hd8hb4v I completely understand, Rhodes and the entire Lemoyne area except for Saint Denis just seems off, something aint right, just a weird landscape overall. New Austin is my favourite, sucks we can’t go there as Arthur because it really suits him.
Van Horn is the best. 😆
still playing this game, crazy how detailed and expansive it is. It’s crazy after 3 years you are still covering content on this game. keep it up
It's going to 4 years this October. It'd be impressive if they can keep videos like these up to its 5th anniversary.
One of the few things bout this game tht keeps me likin it
Just can’t see another game ever having the same depth of detail as this. Just unreal.
I'm starting my 2nd play thru. Any suggestions on where to stop the story and just spend the rest of my time exploring? or should I just explore with John?
@@michaelhupal9161 Just before the Rescue Party for Jack, i think.
If GTA 6 comes even close to being this detailed in the singleplayer I'll never be heard from again.
It’s going woke.
@@number62 how
Well it should be more detailed than this because its about to be a decade since the last gta was released
@@number62 mate their adding a female character it’s not that serious
@@number62 Holy christ get a life
I remember seeing a theory that Sammy survived being thrown into the river and that he grew up into the Feral Man you can find in Roanoke Ridge, but that might just be someone conflating two vaguely similar stories together. The Feral Man's journal says that he ran away from his family in 1882, which would be over 15 years before the events of RDR2 - probably too long for the people of Rhodes to still call it "that incident from a few years back".
Damn maybe I didn't read his journal from a to z but again maybe
No, it's not that. Strange Man actually posed this theory in a video a while ago, but most of the comments agreed it doesn't add up. It's one of Strange Man's rare blunders that one.
He’s far upstream and completely feral.
Someone should take Feral Man to the gunsmith then?
@@gordonhenderson1965 I saw videos about that. Unfortunately nothing happens when you take the feral man to the gunsmith. But I personally are convinced that the feral man is the gunsmiths son.
RDR2 has a grim and melancholic story but it doesn't even compare to the eerie and disturbing lore in its background world. Every town in this game and its residents are somehow cursed or haunted by dark secrets that occasionally lead to some downright depressing stories like this gunsmith and his son. No open-world half as engrossed me in its world and lore as this game.
Why did I read R2D2 instead of RDR2🙃
Exactly what I think. At this point every location in this game feels like is haunted by something. Amazing how rockstar made these side stories without telling the player where or how to find it.
@@douglasriibeiro25 Exactly, it what makes discovering things in the open-world so rewarding to me in this game.
@@themadtitan7603 i feel like pleasance holds more secrets than anything in the game, theres more to that ghost town. I always go there at night during thunderstorm(because its cool at that time) and i just walk around trying to piece everything together. The graves are what facinates me the most, everyone was either killed by knife or gunshot. We need more people to start digging in on that place. And the giant Boa exactly south of that ghost town .... Something is up
@@anonymous_dot_com2326 Strange Man did a video covering it a while back. Lemoyne as a state gives me the most cursed vibes out of any region in the game.
I love the creepiness of RDR2, to be honest. If the game didn't have Dead-Eye, I'm not sure I'd even have the nerve to play it with the Cougar-jumpscares or the Night Folk.
Being consequetively mauled by 3 cougars in RDR1 years ago has still left me afraid of cougars irl, in a world where my family lives in cougar-ville. Family visits are a rough time. Cougars, man.....
I have nightmares of the jump scare that happened coming down a hill, taking a sharp right turn by a river and what felt like 500 O’Driscolls were immediately holding me up and robbing me 😂
i forget dead eye exists every time i play. ive only used it when a mission makes me
@@exosluckyone Same.
Even in GTA V i do not use special abilities the main characters have.
Man the Night Folk... my first playthrough of the game my first run in with them was seeing them run through the fog at night...had no idea what that was and noted out of there. Then coming back later I came across the body hanging from a tree and sure enough I stopped to investigate; which was the whole point of the trap. Had no idea they were coming until I was already being pulled off my horse.
Crazy how all these small towns hold such a dark secret and don't seem like much at first until u look past the facade
Its realistic in a sad way
@@internetkurator9256 the map for RDR 2 is small and it was rly creative for rockstar to make every Easter egg n secret connect to something more that keeps u guessing
Small rural towns are still that way today.
@@williamgson4055 yeah ik I'm a sucker for great mysteries I'm always intrigued by the unknown always had an eye for things. Rockstar really knows how to make a great game secret they've done so for many games especially the mystery of tumbleweed from RDR 1 we still dk what haunts the town cuz in RDR 2 it didn't give us much answers except for how armadillo getting cholera but I'm RDR 1 they never mention that. Just rockstar trying to fit as many things as they can to fit the narrative n continuity of RDR 2 I guess.
The towns folk feel guilty because they didn’t help Jasper look for his son. Take a closer look into that picture. It shows people sitting in their homes.
But if the child drew it then he’d be dead after the events that killed him, and unable to draw about them helping or not.
@@Y2Kev5 I was going to say the same.
@@Y2Kev5 R. drew that picture
@@Y2Kev5 the child never drew that picture
@@fearmyshadow4685 that was my point
I never get these camp dialogues 'cuz I always seem to find unfriendly campers so I just avoid them. Thanks for the good content as always!
that's probably like 90% of the campers that is hostile without any reason
Fascinating! Strange how the townsfolk discuss this like a bad omen. Maybe he was murdered and the murderer was never caught and in his grief Jasper came up with the story of Sammy drowning in the river?
Or maybe the townfolk whisper about it because they dont want the gunsmith to hear given that he may not know the whole truth about it. Maybe they were many of them present when that happened while the gunsmith was doing sth else.
Though im not sure that could be, the gunsmith was with him the entire time supposedly.
Perhaps something happened to that kid down the river, probably done by some of the townsfolk and they buried the body, thats why he was never seen again, not alive or dead.
I think the biggest clue is the wording they use... they say the kid was "killed" not that he died, implying that it wasn't an accident, or if it was an accident, it was clearly someone's fault. My guess is that Jasper didn't teach the boy proper safety and the kid shot himself, or Jasper accidently shot him, not practicing proper safety himself. Of course, it could just be that everyone felt guilty for not being able to find the kid after it happened.
@@livewire2759 that makes sense. i was thinking more dark.. like the gunsmith molested his own son and then killed him after
For me it could be that the boy ended in the river and then someone shoot him because he tough he was stealing something, idk it could be that way, imagine if you wake up in the middle of nowhere, you start to run to get to your home and then you get killed by a farmer. Even worse, that they found him in a horrific state and a group of people decided to kill him to end his suffering, or maybe to shut his mouth up.
@@Srenitystreez stop projecting
The town may feel guilty because they knew Jasper wasn't fit to have a child due to mental instability, but they didn't intervene
Good one!
oh man thats actually a fantastic theory
I think you got it man, very good thinking damn
I don’t think so. I think they refer to him as “deranged” *after* what happened to his boy, not because he was crazy, but because he became after the incident.
Also, people normally won’t feel that guilty if something like that. They way they talk about is like if they had something to do with his death (unintentionally), nobody would feel that guilty for the reason you mention.
I feel that Sammy was severely abused and the townsfolk well-knew about it. I don't think the gunsmith's story is entirely accurate, I think he punished him by the river and somehow pushed him in. Maybe the guilt the town feels is because they didn't do anything to help Sammy when they had the chance.
This sounds plausible.
This is a southern town in the late 1800's/early 1900's. If Jasper had been responsible for Sammy's death, he wouldn't still be running his store. He would be dangling from the hanging tree on the outskirts of town.
@@KarlPHorse I didn't mean that he pushed him in on purpose, just that he was responsible for it.
I meant that they were already down by the river doing something else (whether for punishment or not) and Sammy fell in that way. Or maybe he did do it on purpose, but of course the entire town wasn't staring at the two of them when it happened.
Really not uncommon for people to put up a facade.
interesting. even if we never find out, this game gets major points for shocking me with its intricacies four years after release
I’m convinced strange man was a dev on the game
@@seanmmcelwain he'd know all about Sammy then, wouldn't he?
The first dialogue from the town folk seems to suggest that it wasn't the first time jasper kept a boy prisoner And they all turned a blind eye. The last dialogue feels like the aftermath if you put the prisoner out of his misery.
Maybe r.feeney is a previous boy he held captive?
I like this theory but i don t think the townsfolk would allow jasper to do the same to another prisoner if they feel guilty about the previous one. And i don t believe they don t know about jaspers new prisoner as the window is clearly visible.
I always got the impression that the 'boy' the townsfolk and the camper were talking about was someone else, not the gunsmiths son Sammy. Was it John who said Rhodes always gave him the creeps?
Some of the dialogue in the video specifically mentions Jasper though.
I think it was Saint Denis that gave him the creeps
i think hosea said that to dutch in a camp dialouge
yeah it was john, there was a mission where john and sadie were going to rhodes to collect a bounty
when they got there john said "this place still gives me the creeps"
Yeah, he told Sadie while bounty hunting down there “This place still gives me the creeps”
Maybe I've read too much Lovecraft, but the townsfolk's dialogue is kind of giving me "We didn't want to do it, but we had to sacrifice that boy to our cult's Old God" vibes.
Maybe they feel guilty about it because they heard the screams of the father and Sammy as he was going down the river but they did nothing about it but regretted that later
I would say this one seems the most likely to me.
The end shot of the horse balls and lightning was hilarious 😂
I remember in one of the early chapters coming across a house south of the tracks near Rhodes. I specifically remember going in the house and seeing a man and woman in the backyard talking about the loss of their son.
My guess is that R. Feeney is still the boy, but he is commonly referred to as Sammy because it is his middle name (sort of like a nickname) and his actual first name starts with R. I know a few people that have names like this, so I’m not sure if this mystery element is that deep.
@@ross311 I can understand that, it does seem a bit out of the ordinary. One element I thought of after posting this is that it could be the mother’s name too
@@ross311 great point
There are three Feeney in the Rhodes graveyard. Husband and wife and what seems to be their daugther, Nettie Mae Feeney. She died in 1895, so four years before the events of the game. Her grave stone says "Loving mother and wife" and then "She didn't suffer fools". She's most likely Sammy's mother. And it seems she probably died around the same time as Sammy.
Honestly I think it's just an oversight from the devs. Whoever made the pic just signed it wrong on accident, as it was most definitely made by an irl adult at Rockstar.
I love the way the kidnapped guy kicks his foot as he is looking out the bars. such a cool detail for something no one would really see. great job strange man.
The camper, jasper and the townsfolk basically tell three different stories, it's hard to believe they're all the same. Also, judging by the pictures, Sammy was a bit too old and big to be thrown into the river by a rifle's recoil unless it was a damn elephant gun, not to mention he should've been able to use a gun by that age.
This, and the sign on the drawing, almost makes me think Jasper might have had two sons, R. and Sammy, and he either lied about how sammy died, or in his grief, he's misremembering and mixing two events.
Your my favourite youtuber keep up the great content 👍
I remember the boy who was killed was other than the gunsmith son. You can find clues in the burned house and the graveyard. But I may be wrong... I didn't play this game for a while now.🤔
I just get happy when strangeman releases a new video
The Strange Man puts such great work into all of his videos, however its the dark and mysterious ones where his talents shine the greatest. Love these videos.
it’s unbelievable how expansive this game truly is, almost moving to see the effort that was put into this world.
it is moving and i think it goes down not only as a top-tier example of what one can do with the video game medium, but it stands as high human art that is deserving of its chair in the Pantheon of great artistic works that usually are relegated to architecture, painting, writing, etc. In fact, it's all of those things and more. I truly believe it to be objectively masterful fine art.
@@thedogwooddandy perfectly said, and it’s shameful that greed killed this game from being even bigger
Wow!! really appreciate the hard work, loved the cinematics and editing 🙌
Thanks for the shoutout ❤️
Hey bro! I've an interesting theory about princess IKZ. Wanna hear it?
Just the level of detail is why red dead redemption won't ever be beaten of the best game of this century that I've played, every single detail has been accounted for plus so much more is unreachable and unused it's fantastic
I can't remember where I read this theory or who originally posted it, but somewhere someone speculated that the The Wolf Man is Sammy all grown up.
The thought goes that Jesper was a strict father who wanted Sammy to be an outdoors man and successful hunter (or at least someone who could intelligently take over the shop after he passed away), while Sammy was gentler soul and didn't want to hunt/kill animals, and had no interest in his father's lifestyle. So in an effort to make Sammy man up, Jesper took Sammy out to the river with a rifle, had him shoot it, then lost him in the river where he presumably drowned.
But if you look at the Wolf Man's diary in his cave, he talks about how he used an accident by the river to stage an escape from his father and start the life he always wanted to live - away from people and in harmony with nature. (I forget the exact wording he uses and I haven't reread the letter in a while, so I might be messing up some details).
Nothing explicitly says Sammy and the Wolf Man are one in the same, but things do seem to connect.
I cant see how he went from a normal 10-11 year old to a full rabid wolf man living with wolves. However that river detail in his diary makes me wonder.
Yeah i agree with you. But the question is, what does the town has to do with this boy?
I just read the journal, there's no mention of an accident at the river, and it seems like his father was a professional hunter, not a blacksmith.
I think we should consider what Sammy was aiming at when Jasper was teaching him to shoot. Maybe like a cursed item or someone who brought misfortune to Rhodes.
it's been 2-3 years since I played this game, I still watch content about the game every day. Yet I still find out new things on such a regular basis is insane to me. Keep up the incredible content! I'll be watching it.
if jasper took his son out to a river, chances are that river might've been the river that seperates the swamp, the one where you get ambushed by the raiders, and if sammy were to survive the rivers current, there's a chance that he either was found by the raiders, and either tortured then executed or kidnapped and never seen again, or he was found by the night folk, who mutilated him, hung his body all over the swamps where some limbs might've decomposed/ got eaten to the point where we can't find him because his corpse no longer exists. however, these are ideas are likely not true, as the townsfolk most likely had a connection with his death which then leads to the braithwaites and the raiders, which then leads to another theory, as archiblad macgregor said, "half of businesses in town are owned by the grays!" which means that there's a possibility that the grays own or are partners with jasper, so this would be the timeline:
Sammy recoils into the river, presumebly drowning, he survives only to be captured by the braithwaites and executed, the npc's that talked about his death most likely heard it from drunk raiders/braithwaites in the gray's saloon.
another thing to mention, is that jasper say's that sammy's ghost is appearing more often, what happens in the story? arthur and the gang kill all the braithwaites, to save a boy (jack) all whilst jasper starts to see the ghost of his boy, sammy around the same time
But why would the raiders or braithwaites decide to kill a 12 year old boy for no reason?
@@pavan923 they took jack though? so you consider that as well
@@sen6728 They didn’t kill jack they gave him to Bronte where he was well treated so I’d doubt they’d kill Sammy.
@@CrowBandit that was bronte, not the braithwaites, take a look at gertrude so usign that logic, gertrude's most likely had been in there during the events of sammy's story
and also, that was the Van Der Linde Gang, not the Gray's, the Braithwaite's and Gray's have a blood feud, they would kill each other on sight given the chance, so as I said in my ideas, theres a good chance that Japser and the Gray's had a business partnership which makes him a likely target by the braithwaites, and what better than to kill his only child? his only family remaining
I'm sure there's a grave with Feeny on it somewhere, I remember it because a friend's nickname is Feeny so it stuck out to me can't remember where though probably Rhodes
I knew Rhodes out of all the towns in the game when I first played it had some bad blood and dark secrets. Seeing how it’s a southern town and two families who are against each other control it. But damn every town in this game has bad history and so many dark secrets. Valentine was apparently massacred once (I think), the people in annesberg burned a girl thinking she was a witch, that town near annesburg is full of outlaws and other criminals, and tumbleweed has a plague. This game has so much horror and thriller in it.
Annesburg burned a girl thinking she was a witch? where can I read/watch more about that?
@@Jackrazorus just search rdr2 the whispering forest and a you’ll find videos explaining it. Basically two couples who had a secret relationship would meet up in the woods, and the guy got killed by British red coat ghosts and the girl ran to town and tried explaining. But people thought she was a witch or did witchcraft or something and they burned her. This games got so many mysteries and backstories and horror stories it’s unbelievably amazing
@@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551 Hmm. I never heard about this. I will have to look it up, then. Thanks.
Van horn has the outlaw.
Armadillo has the plague.
Tumbleweed has that sheriff that plays no games.
RDR2 is so good and vast that the years go by and you think the mysteries are over, but then someone finds another. Congratulations, Strange Man, you have one of the best channels on UA-cam. RDR2 is rich in its own right, but your work makes the game even better.
My fav UA-camr, such detailed videos, good job man!
Top 5 favorite game of all time. Number one UA-cam channel! Thank you strange man!
The Greatest! Most Detailed game EVER MADE! A truly big masterpiece! A neverending discovery!
And abandoned and pissed on by its creators. =(
@@jamesanthony8438 take two dosen't deserve rockstar
I’ve always been creeped out by Rhodes
I always thought it was one of the "normal" towns without any particularly plagued or cursed by a dark history but I guess no town isn't plagued in some way in RDR2.
@@themadtitan7603 exactly lol
When I first saw it in my first playthrough, I got the sudden feeling that it was an old southern town that had had slavery normalized before the war, and the status quo had remained the same; destitute black folks living on the outskirts of town and working for the wealthy folks living in the huge plantation houses. Being from the northern borders of the US, it gave me the willies and the urge to flee if a banjo started playing or if I saw a confederate flag somewhere.
Killing off Lemoyne Raiders is still good sport.
Your back! I love the videos you do keep up the great work!
I feel like the town's people aren't talking about Sammy. The way they word it makes it sound like they did something bad to the boy. The gunsmith says that the recoil of the weapon knocked Sammy in the river, i dont see a reason for the gunsmith to lie about this.
Also the way the gunsmith dressed up the stranger makes it seem like Sammy was still a young kid when he died. Comparing the pictures of the gunsmith and Sammy to how the gunsmith looks right now makes it seem like that has been many years ago, which might not line up with the story from the town's people which seemed more recent.
I always wanted to know that why the kid in the gunsmith's basemen can have a small windows and talk freely with strangers...
It kinda strange because if u kidnapped someone, you would not want others to know about their existent (the kid)
But then why would the towns ppl say "they keep bringing up that boy , let it go" and what not
@@dingane0039 Well i think they're talking about a different boy and a different story
@@MrBoomxl it would be nice if you elaborate,
@@dingane0039 I mean i kinda explained it in the original comment. It sounds like they feel bad about something they did to a boy. The gunsmith said Sammy got knocked in the river cause of the recoil of the weapon, which doesn't sound like something the town's people should feel guilty for.
Your videos are of amazing quality and details. I love that because this is my favorite game as I can't play many. I also love the new little things you put in like the camera shaking.
Thank you for putting up the subtitles in a way, which is still readable, even zoomed in on a screen with a 18:9 aspect ratio!
This has to be one of the best channels on UA-cam period
Bro, is so good to watch your videos. It's been 4 years since the release of this instant classic and I still play every time I got the chance to turn on my XBox and have some chill time for myself playing my favorite games
This man is one of the best youtubers of RDR2. Keep going!
You always to a superb job on editing your creations. Great job on this as well. Very interesting.
The skylight in the bank in rhodes makes a shadow that resembles a crosshairs and bullets sit on top of the roof as well. might be a clue.
Where the Flaco Hernandez card is?
@@born_of_seafoam yeah
@@lmonk9517 that might be a foreshadowing of or a reference to Sean's death. A bullet to the head by marksman or a sniper.
The gunsmith says he was stealing candy which may mean he was a troublemaker, everybody may not have didn't like him, so some found out they were going hunting, so they may have tampered with the weapon to add more recoil one that the gunsmith could handle but Sammy couldn't
That could be true But it seems a bit unrealistic. How would any rdr2 player figure anything like that out?
@@thelegendaryseal1234 its ust a theory a rdr2 theory
That seems stupid to go in on to kill a child over candy
@@gamerstheater1187 Not just that but maybe more he was a troublemaker
How can you make a gun have more recoil tho?
Over the last days I’ve spinned out following theory: When Sammy was a child he and his father Jasper used to go fishing somewhere at the „Fishing Spot“, Kamassa River. Why there? Cause the fact it’s called Fishing Spot on the map indicates that this is a place commonly known by the Lemoyne people simply as a good place to go fishing. Furthermore the both houses in the background of Sammy’s drawing are fitting pretty well with the meanwhile decayed Saloon and Barn at Macomb’s End (even though there are a lot more trees around there unlike at the drawing). But in my opinion these houses are matching best with those drawn. And since the mission „American Distillation“ we additionally know that this entire area is lying within the radius of action of the Rhodians, especially of those ones pursuing a sideline career. But more on the last aspect in a moment… Right now let‘s just assume that’s the place we’re looking for.
Given the information that teenaged Sammy was pushed into a river by the recoil of the rifle he shot it’s reasonable to assume the place where it happened is the same place where both he and his father used to be for fishing all the years before (especially since we don’t have any other hints regarding the place of the incident, as far as I see). Also the nearby position of the camper who told us about that mystery could be taken as a hint given by Rockstar.
But more than the map position of the camper, it is - not surprisingly - what he is saying which also points to the Fishing Spot as the place where Sammy’s fate began to take its course. Like many other encounters in RDR2 his wordings and phrases can be seen ambiguously and understood in different ways, too.
So, almost at the end of our conversation when he’s talking about his mother leaving him as a child he says that he’s convinced her mother carried [the shame/guilt of her doing] around. And he adds „Just like them people of Rhodes.“ Obviously at a first glance that refers to the shame/guilt he‘s telling us the people of Rhodes carrying around. But that phrase could also be comprehend as a reference to that mission I‘ve already mentioned above. Beside the reported guilt Rhode people are very known to us for carrying moonshine in rough amounts or in other words: carriages packed with moonshine. Could it be that the guilt lies in the moonshine? And is the place where Sammy’s ending and Rhodes‘ guilt began maybe the same place where the moonshine begins his way? A way which started in the fog of Bayou Nwa and ended in a mood of sadness and shame which „you could feel … like a mist in the air“?
According to my interpretation, a possible explanation arises for what happened to Sammy: After falling into the water somewhere at the fishing spot, perhaps just a little way up the Kamassa River, he was swept along by the current, but fortunately managed to save himself to a riverbank where he observed some Rhodian moonshiner who had just been startled by a gunshot as they were preparing their carriage, and were now nervously scanning their surroundings for possible policemen. Of course, Sammy was immediately spotted by them. Unfortunately. The moonshiner, who may have even helped him out of the water, now faced the risk of being reported to the sheriff, a member of the Gray's, who are known to have good reason to hunt the moonshiner. So Sammy had to follow the same path as all the other witnesses to the crime in the game. Who could know better than Arthur and John? "Well, it's not the first time," said a guy in one of the audios Strangeman gave us in the video.
Since a lot of the people in Rhodes were involved in or benefited from or just knew about the whole moonshining thing and even about the murderer of Sammy it’s fair to say that „the whole place has the blood on their hands“. Like the moonshine in their heads. End.
So far my theory. Unfortunately it can neither explain the wrong first letter on Sammy's drawing nor the issue that Sammy’s father on that drawing looks more like the Strange Man than like Jasper (who has a Goatee on all photos over the time).
Cool video! You never fail with good content! 😁
Man I really liked the way you made those video
The sammy thing is interesting. The idea that the slave body was Sammy is a little nonsensical... because the letter is signed ELIJAH. No point even looking at the date.
Yeah, the body is clearly of a black slave who escaped and was trying to make his way to his Uncle.
It was never claimed that the slave was Sammy. He states in the video that he thought the camper was referring to the slave. Has nothing to do with Sammy
@@brintonswope6176 Ah I see, bit of confusing addition there, as one would assume nobody would care all that much in Rhodes about a slave that ran away... being in the south etc... so the camper talking about anything mysterious likely correlates to the Sammy rumours but the dead body doesn't really connect to anything.
UNBELIEVABLE!!! I was just thinking about this story today and if someone was able to find the boy's body near the river.
Thanks for the video Strange Man!
Great vids ! Real classy.
Your editing skills have been getting better and better with every video. That gunshot effect was 🔥🔥🔥
Also, isn't Sammy the feral guy you find living with wolves up near butcher's creek?
StrangeMan . you are the best at what you do in my opinion 👌I Enjoy the in-depth knowledge but even the feeling you provide with the background Can cause a chill 👻
I always found it weird how the dude locked up in the basement couldn’t get anyone to help him in the town where people were always up n about when he had every opportunity to yell for help. They must’ve known he was there and not cared.
They thought he was the boy's ghost. 🤣
maybe this boy get lynched by townsfolk for a crime, and later it turned out he wasnt responsible for it? It's only explanation that comes to my mind
The gunsmith mentioned that his "kid" was caught "stealing candy from the store again" (whether that was his actual kid or the kidnapping victim that he thinks is his kid is unclear). Maybe if Sammy was known to be a troublemaker (as apparently he has stolen candy multiple times), perhaps that's why the town suspected him of a crime and lynched him, and later figured out that it wasn't him after all. And the gunsmith made up the river story in order to cope with the loss (and may not even be aware that the river story is a fabrication as a way for his brain to protect itself from the trauma).
Love the mix of details and ambiguity, like real detective work, not always so obvious
Love your videos!! :)
8:19 Which NPC is this? Seems like whoever he is talking to, that person was the one who got Sammy killed.
What about the dude who says he has no guilt?
@@straightfuckingwater389 maybe he means that he’s innocent and therefore has no guilt?
Wow thanks for showing up today Much appreciated
If only new Austin was so rich in details and secrets as the rest of west Elizabeth
Rhodes is my favorite town in RDR2. Good video.
I think the drawing might be a clue. In the background, in the cabin, you can see people in a strange arrangement. What if Sammy had been murdered because he had witnessed something serious? Could he have heard or seen something he shouldn't? Something serious enough that it was covered by the whole town, including his father...
Or since his Mother’s death/disappearance, his father was not doing well mentally and therefore townsfolk saw him unfit to have a kid therefore didn’t save the kid but heard the screams or saw him die?
Always amazing videos
Love your videos man 👍
I'm wondering how young Sammy was when he died (see 4:56--in that photo, at least, he looks like a teenager). If he was older, that might have something to do with R. Feeney (whoever that is) being the one who made the drawing.
Either that or Sammy was a REALLY bad artist lol.
Sammy is a different character than the one that the townsfolk are regretful over. There's a grave at the church.
Which grave and why is it significant?
@@livewire2759 I also want to know.
Always a top quality video from StrangeMan
Love your videos
It's a good day when a new strange man video is uploaded
The edit of this vid is pretty good nice
Wild. I've been playing this game too shallowly. This little thread is so long!
I thought sammy was the cave man who lived with wolves
He’s not if you go to the cave when he is there by the back you should see a tent and his journal from when he was a boy on a crate
No, it's likely the Cave man was the hermits son however. I did a video on it a while back.
The cave man being Sammy is only a theory. Likely not true neither, because it seems like he died a few years ago and the cave man is a grown adult.
I still don’t understand why strange man only has 300k subs
Quality over quantity; he puts a lot of time and effort into his (admittedly niched) videos, rather than churning out a half-assed video every day. The less you post, the less likely you are to show up in random people's recommended list and gain new subscribers. The game's also been out for several years so he's scraping the bottom of the barrel for content, while his audience is losing interest and moving on to other games. With his editing skills and knack for storytelling, I hope he branches out rather than give up if he runs out of RDR and GTA vids.
nice shot at the end there
His videos are so relaxing
In the background of the drawing, the two fixtures look like it could be referencing the outhouse and the gazebo on the Braithwaite plantation.
Its so cool how many secrets and easter eggs that rockster puts into hid game imagine how many secrets snd easter eggs there will be in gta 6
I outsmarted everyone and just started playing this game last week and I’m obsessed with the swamp areas
He didn't die he is the feral man that lives among the wolves but people of Rhodes think he died but he didn't.
And the slave was an escapee who got shot while escaping from the side mission dude that asks you to help retrieve his gun, journal and other stuff from his house that is being taken by the government.
The feral man has a journal in the cave where you find him. It's not the same person, almost had though won't lie
Great video 👍. Could you make one about the strange drawings of blackwatter please ?
My guess is that the kid did fall in the river but managed to get on land soon after. If you look at the map you can see that the kamassa river is the only one to be close enough for the gunsmith to bring his son (realistically). If the kid fell in it, the current would have pushed him south, then east near caliga hall, then south again until the river meets the lannahechee. So he might have returned to land near caliga hall or the ruined factory/slaughterhouse near Saint Denis. Maybe he saw something he wasn't supposed to see, or a rescue team of townfolks killed him for some reason but never told the father. There also a possibility that the father and son were far upstream on the kamassa and the kid was killed by the lemoyne raiders in macomb's end (where they make moonshine in the story mission).
But all that doesn't tell us how the townfolks are responsible for the death of the kid, and why they did what they did.
Perhaps someone saw Sammy fall into the river but didn’t stop to help rescue him. Apparently not a lot of people knew how to swim back then so if Sammy was swept away and the person couldn’t reach him in time the townsfolk decided to not say that there was someone else who saw Sammy but didn’t bother to help. That could be the big reason why the townsfolk could be guilty. The bystander effect if you will.
I'd take a closer look at the piece of dialogue where a man says "the boy you got killed". Now this could mean two things:
1. They straight up killed him via someone they hired. It makes a lot of sense that way, especially since it would be much easier for the townsfolk to gather and take the decision to hire someone rather than all of them killing him together. It's also due to the sentence itself ("got him killed") which could mean they ordered his killing.
2. There was an unfortunate chain of events that got Sammy killed, the circumstances of which are somehow to blame on the townsfolk of Rhodes. To put it into perspective, if you were on the battlefield and you took your unit straight into a trap, people would say you "got them killed" because you were the one that's to blame for getting them there.
@@user-vt4hd8hb4v Or maybe that’s how they talked at the time (at least someone uneducated) and he meant “the boy found killed in Rhodes” or something along these lines but I don’t think “you” means a person in that sentence.
Need to figure this out ASAP
I wonder if the drawing corresponds to a location in the game.
Two houses near a body of water that is near two fairly unique looking trees and a third tree next to what might be a tree stump...
You are an absolute legend.
I always thought the wild man was Jasper's lost son. If you read the wild man's diary, he mentions how his dad got him a gun but he isn't fond of hunting, and he somehow survived his accident.
But after seeing this video, I'm a lot less sure now.
Good shot on the horse balls at the end
I've played this game for hundreds of hours and its amazing how many things i've never seen.
Speak of the Strange Man… I literally met this camper for the first time last night while playing through, and was wondering what he was talking about
Incredible stuff
That intro is so damn cool
Might be a type of survivors guilt, as that guy in the basement wasn't exactly quiet about his situation it's likely the people of Rhodes felt bad Jasper's son died and felt even worse for letting him spiral that it's not only eating at them, they also just let him kidnap and keep someone. Because there's no way he has enough money to pay off Sheriff Gray
This feels like an unsolved mystery. I hope the answers are there and haven't been cut.