It's not alleged, he definitely did die that way. The coroner reported that he hadn't had a bowel movement in 4 MONTHS. Makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it, poor bastard.
Valentine has a indian* curse on it St Denis has a vampire running loose Tumbleweed is in decline Armadillo has a pandemic Blackwater is reeling from a massacre Van Horn is a crime colony Annesburg is drowning in waste and pollution Rhodes has a cloud of regret hanging over it Colter is long abandoned Wapiti is a ghost town Strawberry is the only half decent town left
@@muradov_sw I guess emerald ranch is also fine, but there is also the owner's daughter who never leaves the house, and whom Seamus sometimes sees through the window. Kinda creepy.
I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who occasionally accidently punches some innocent bystander during a first fight. Arthur once punched a lady while fighting with Jon in the saloon. All I saw was her feet go flying. Then on another occasion John was fighting some random NPC in the street outside Smithfield saloon and punched his horse. The Horse lashed out and kicked the NPC stone dead.
@strangeman There is an interaction with the Sheriff after he kills Moira... At around 4.15am every day he walks up to the balcony to smoke. If you time it right, you can go up there after he's killed her and Arthur will say "Returning to the scene of the crime?". I activated it once but unfortunately I ran into him before he could respond. Has anyone else activated this? I'd love to know the rest of the conversation!
The sheriff in Valentine has more secrets than the affair with Moira. You can see hem taking bribes from the o’Driscolls hiding in the back of the Doctors office.
17:49 YES I would love a revisited one! Out of all the RDR2 mysteries I think the Valentine curse one is up there as the one of the most "mysterious" and intriguing ones.
The prostitute side mission with the pigs is a Deadwood reference. Episode one, Trixie, a prostitute at the Gem, shoots a guy for beatin on her. Most bodies (especially bodies at the hotel and the Gem) are fed to Mr Wu's pigs.
There's actually more than 2 encounters with Grizzled Jon, you can have about 3 or 4 with different dialogue every time. Even if you don't fight him or take his hat he disappears after a certain amount of encounters and never comes back.
There is another event when we briefly see Thomas Downes before he infects Arthur: When Arthur is thrown out of the window fighting against Tommy and then winning the fight, you can see Thomas Downes being the first one trying to intervene. Arthur immediately leaves the area and in the background we can briefly see that Mr. Downes tries to help Tommy, who is still lying in the mud.
I've always wondered if Jon was one of those settlers who massacred the natives in order to found Valentine... From what he said, it seems that way. He's still one of the toughest npcs tho. Oh and a remake of the Valentine curse video would be awesome.
The Curse of Valentine conversation between Karen and Mary-Beth is really hard to trigger, every time I am at camp during chapter 2 and I see them sat together, I wait to see if the converstion will trigger and nothing. I believe only once I saw them speaking about it.
There is another secret you can find in Valentine, Francis Sinclair is not the only one with the Epsilon program, if you go to the Graveyard at Valentine you can find a Eugene Dunn. On his gravestone you can find an Epsilon symbol, the wings with hourglass, another odd coincidence is Eugene had two twin sisters that died the same year Eugene died. An odd connection but i think the Epsilon program in RDR2 would be a good video for you to revisit.
There is a VERY rare mission that you can get in Valentine as early as chapter 2 that I have only gotten once (in 7 playthroughs). At night across from the Inn (by the new building they're working on), a man will beckon you over and explain that he is going to cheat his business partner who is staying at the Inn. You cam go alone with him, decline or even keep the money for yourself. It also gives us a unique character behind the desk at the Inn, instead of the usual fella there.
hey strange man. have you ever noticed that the whole map used to be underwater? i realized it when i climbed the sacred mountain rains falls takes you up near the wapiti rez. the water from emerald ranch is just the water that was left over during the flood. and the rocks in the distance is what used to be above sea level.
Hey StrangeMan, I found a cool detail when I finished the whole game story. There was a thunderstorm, and I found out that animals and cattle get spooked of sudden thunder, you could add this to the next video in the details series :D
After so many playthroughs of this game that I've lost count and yet half of this stuff I did not genuinely know about. To this day I am consistently STILL finding things that I've missed. The very many different interactions mostly. Thumbs up from a long time subscriber. I come to your channel for the gospel of RDR2 according to you to catch up on everything that I'm missing and then head in-game to play them out. Thank you.. sincerely..
Fun fact I found out last night. The random encounter bear valentine where the odriscolls are trying to break their friend out of the wagon. Well if you hogtied him and take him to the jail rather than killing him you get money for it 😂😂 Rockstar really went all out
I just recently had to sell my Xbox series S because I have a kid on the way and we just really Need the money. I’m gonna miss playing red dead but as soon as I have the money I’m immediately buying a ps5 or series X to get the most out of gaming. But god damn I’m gonna miss riding my ol miss and just enjoying the scenery in red dead. 😞😢
We can meet Thomas downes even earlier when we beat Tommy in that brawl,Thomas was the one who broke the fight and we can even encounter him in the early missions of chapter 2 right after the completion of Colter
John is my favorite sparring partner. All I have to do is put on the raccoon hat, and he comes at me like a bull. As long as he lands the first hit, it's not assault.
I like that the game doesn't even give you a prompt to read the Chelonian 'bible' when it's offered to you. Arthur just turns it down out of principle alone.
Just north of MacLean’s house (between the ranch and the river) can be found the skeletons of two groups of convicts in shackles. For most of them their legs appeared to have been cut off just above the ankles, and one of them is propped up in a seated position against a tree, his head severed from his body. Any ideas as to the story behind this strange scene?
You make some of my favorite RDR2 content on UA-cam man, I’ve found so many amazing things to do in RDR2 because of your videos my guy! Thank you for continuing to produce quality content and keeping RDR2 relevant! 8:11 they’re clearly indulging in the wacky tobacky 😂😂 Skål 🍻
Grizzled Jon is wearing something similar to the Legendary Panther cloak so I kind of respect him if he actually took some like Giagulo down. Also love having a nice scrap with him! He’s the best fist fighter in Valentine outside of poor Tommy.
sometimes i go to a place called woodhaven lakes and near there is a place that looks similar to valentine and theres even a church at the same exact area
Wait! The Knickerbocker crisis happened in 1907, but the storyline with Arthur takes place in 1899. Either they cameoed the knickerbocker crisis or it's an error. Anyways, love watching RDR2 content.
More and more I see videos like this. I think this was the greatest game ever produced. I have way more love for RDR 2 then any GTA series. Not to say they wasn't good. But the amount of details, story telling, and other side tell's is extraordinary. Question is will the New GTA surpass RDR2 on all aspects??? 🤔
Woah I didn't know about the woman (apparently her name is Moira) being killed! I heard the arguing but I didn't listen long enough to hear that the sheriff killed her, interesting!
Hell Yeah ! Thanks for the vidéo and keeping it up! yes i would like the revisited video of the valentine mistery. Thanks alot Strange Man you rocks alot !!
The murderous prostitute part is by no means so short. I met the murderous prostitute differently. I entered the salon and randomly went upstairs to look around. The mini-map indicated that there was something in one of the rooms and I also heard voices. I went in and saw the same thing that was in the video. A dead man tied up on the bed and the girl with a knife in her hand, crying and begging me to remove the body in exchange for money. I agreed. The body had to be taken to the nearest pigs and thrown there. I went back to the woman and she gave me the money. Here, everyone could think that this mini-mission is over, and neither the map nor the game indicated that anything else should be done. I could have gone on anywhere. Something occurred to me. What happens if I go to the sheriff? I saw little chance that there would be a separate dialogue for this, but I thought it was worth a try. I went in and told the sheriff what happened in that room. Then the sheriff and I went up to the room, and the sheriff tied the woman up and took her to jail, and the sheriff gave me money. It's amazing how long a completely random mission was that I could have interrupted at any minute in any way, then nothing would have happened. That's why I love this game.
anyone else notice in the cemetery next to the church there is one at the back row that has a finger pointing on it? Like as a clue that there is something just north? There is a row of cheaper graves behind it but nothing there and i looked around just past that but found nothing
Regarding the Valentine Curse, I really Karen is talking about the Feathered Skull Grave, located to the west of Fort Riggs Holding Camp: ua-cam.com/video/bSEiOcNsPEY/v-deo.html
Regarding Tommy, there's a couple of rare things regarding him that a player can find. The first is a bar conversation in Smithfields, where a patron comes up unsolicited while Arthur is drinking and talks about the fight: ua-cam.com/video/ZrDqZ7izMw0/v-deo.html Also, you make get some dialogue from Jacob Worth and Doctor Ben Calloway about Tommy's condition: ua-cam.com/video/6KnbRxCu1_w/v-deo.html Also, if "Americans at Rest" is completed before "Polite Society, Valentine Style", there will be added dialogue from Arthur regarding the Tommy fight.
One of these days that intro sound is actually going to fuck my speakers. I know you do it to be cinematic, but why do you have the LOUDEST audio spike at the literal first second of the video?
im hope we become RDR 3 ...with so many secrets again....rdr2 is in totaly worth to play 3x...or stay thousands of hr in this land u will find so many thinks u never saw before in a gameplay....cant wait for rdr3 and im sure it will come before i die "i hope, im so old"
11:00 I have a clip in PS4 of a intense storm in the game. How can I give it to you? Is the only tine I have seen a intense storm in the game, I think it was a bug
The constipated guy being called Mr. Presley is probably a reference to Elvis Presley - who allegedly died while on the toilet.
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Now that’s something entertaining
Supposedly, one of the headlines in a paper the day after Presley died was "King Dies on Throne."
It's funny, because bananas often help with "regularity"... but those fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches?
They turn to glue in the belly!
It's not alleged, he definitely did die that way. The coroner reported that he hadn't had a bowel movement in 4 MONTHS. Makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it, poor bastard.
Valentine has a indian* curse on it
St Denis has a vampire running loose
Tumbleweed is in decline
Armadillo has a pandemic
Blackwater is reeling from a massacre
Van Horn is a crime colony
Annesburg is drowning in waste and pollution
Rhodes has a cloud of regret hanging over it
Colter is long abandoned
Wapiti is a ghost town
Strawberry is the only half decent town left
Everywhere they go is a massacre 😂
What about Emrland ranch
@@muradov_sw I guess emerald ranch is also fine, but there is also the owner's daughter who never leaves the house, and whom Seamus sometimes sees through the window. Kinda creepy.
The bayou has the nightfolk
strawberry has skinners nearby
Valentine is my Favorite place in RDR2, has the most western feeling for me.
Yeah! When I'm bored I'm always going to Valentine saloon at night to play poker or just chill out there, very atmospheric place!
I like Tumbleweed more for its Western feeling but Valentine is almost on the same high Aproval
@@Todesmorgen I should spend more time in New Austin..
Absolutely agree
It should have been bigger in my opinion
Not just Valentine even Rhodes feels kinda small too
No matter how "evil" my current playthrough is... I always hug Mickey.
Twice? I swear I see Grizzled Jon ranting in there every time I walk in
Think it depends on whether you kick his ass or not
Ikr 🤣
I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who occasionally accidently punches some innocent bystander during a first fight. Arthur once punched a lady while fighting with Jon in the saloon. All I saw was her feet go flying. Then on another occasion John was fighting some random NPC in the street outside Smithfield saloon and punched his horse. The Horse lashed out and kicked the NPC stone dead.
@strangeman There is an interaction with the Sheriff after he kills Moira... At around 4.15am every day he walks up to the balcony to smoke. If you time it right, you can go up there after he's killed her and Arthur will say "Returning to the scene of the crime?". I activated it once but unfortunately I ran into him before he could respond. Has anyone else activated this? I'd love to know the rest of the conversation!
is it a greet or an antagonize?
@@jacksonlikesbagels6237 Neither. Just ran up there and the convo started!
The sheriff in Valentine has more secrets than the affair with Moira. You can see hem taking bribes from the o’Driscolls hiding in the back of the Doctors office.
A great horned owl will perch on top of the Valentine stables late on full moon nights.
17:49 YES I would love a revisited one! Out of all the RDR2 mysteries I think the Valentine curse one is up there as the one of the most "mysterious" and intriguing ones.
The prostitute side mission with the pigs is a Deadwood reference. Episode one, Trixie, a prostitute at the Gem, shoots a guy for beatin on her. Most bodies (especially bodies at the hotel and the Gem) are fed to Mr Wu's pigs.
Wow, nice catch
wait so is she a serial killer or did she shoot the guy for beating her like trixie? lmfao now im confused.
There's actually more than 2 encounters with Grizzled Jon, you can have about 3 or 4 with different dialogue every time. Even if you don't fight him or take his hat he disappears after a certain amount of encounters and never comes back.
He went to hunt them bigfoots
I saw him two or three times after I beat him, but the game wouldn't let me interact with him at all. Would love to shut him up again.
2:26😂😂😂 no way
Ok, this one has really made me want to play again. Third playthrough, here I come!
There is another event when we briefly see Thomas Downes before he infects Arthur:
When Arthur is thrown out of the window fighting against Tommy and then winning the fight, you can see Thomas Downes being the first one trying to intervene. Arthur immediately leaves the area and in the background we can briefly see that Mr. Downes tries to help Tommy, who is still lying in the mud.
that's what Arthur and Downes are talking about in the video - Arthur's brawl with Tommy
"You would have killed that man."
I've always wondered if Jon was one of those settlers who massacred the natives in order to found Valentine... From what he said, it seems that way. He's still one of the toughest npcs tho. Oh and a remake of the Valentine curse video would be awesome.
The Curse of Valentine conversation between Karen and Mary-Beth is really hard to trigger, every time I am at camp during chapter 2 and I see them sat together, I wait to see if the converstion will trigger and nothing. I believe only once I saw them speaking about it.
There is another secret you can find in Valentine, Francis Sinclair is not the only one with the Epsilon program, if you go to the Graveyard at Valentine you can find a Eugene Dunn. On his gravestone you can find an Epsilon symbol, the wings with hourglass, another odd coincidence is Eugene had two twin sisters that died the same year Eugene died. An odd connection but i think the Epsilon program in RDR2 would be a good video for you to revisit.
There is a VERY rare mission that you can get in Valentine as early as chapter 2 that I have only gotten once (in 7 playthroughs). At night across from the Inn (by the new building they're working on), a man will beckon you over and explain that he is going to cheat his business partner who is staying at the Inn. You cam go alone with him, decline or even keep the money for yourself. It also gives us a unique character behind the desk at the Inn, instead of the usual fella there.
It isn't rare. I've gotten this ambient event early in Chapter 2 in every playthrough, without trying to get it.
I got that in chapter 6 lol.
bro that clap at 4:28 lmao
I have played this game since it came out and I’ve never seen the spanking peeping Tom. Crazy.
hey strange man. have you ever noticed that the whole map used to be underwater? i realized it when i climbed the sacred mountain rains falls takes you up near the wapiti rez. the water from emerald ranch is just the water that was left over during the flood. and the rocks in the distance is what used to be above sea level.
and there's the fish-like dinosaur bones.
@@Will-Max the whale skeleton near tumbleweed ?
@@cqf3271 I'm not there yet, I found these west of Lake Owanjilla. Almost a straight line from the "O" just a little bit south of that line.
@@Will-Max I was hiding from bounty hunters and found them by accident lol
Hey StrangeMan, I found a cool detail when I finished the whole game story. There was a thunderstorm, and I found out that animals and cattle get spooked of sudden thunder, you could add this to the next video in the details series :D
Damn, im never this early to strangeman content
i bet that coat is just the bartenders and hes just fucking with his customers lmao
After so many playthroughs of this game that I've lost count and yet half of this stuff I did not genuinely know about. To this day I am consistently STILL finding things that I've missed. The very many different interactions mostly. Thumbs up from a long time subscriber. I come to your channel for the gospel of RDR2 according to you to catch up on everything that I'm missing and then head in-game to play them out. Thank you.. sincerely..
Valentine will always feel like home
Loool you kept accidentally punching Innocent npc's 😭😭😂😂
Ohh boy can't wait for what this man will do when GTA 6 releases 🙌
Wow, it was ON SIGHT with Grizzled Jon when he saw you wearing his hat lol
Fun fact I found out last night.
The random encounter bear valentine where the odriscolls are trying to break their friend out of the wagon.
Well if you hogtied him and take him to the jail rather than killing him you get money for it 😂😂 Rockstar really went all out
As the first actual town that we encountered in the game, Valentine holds a special place for me 😊 It's such a great place!
I got excited when i saw the newspaper and it said "Micah Bell Killed"
surely the woman being crazed about the cattle skull has got to have a bigger story behind it.
I wonder if it's a reference to Harriet from RDO.
Something worth watching that isnt the Euro's 2024 final
Perfect timing-music with fight at 03:57, love your discoveries on this universe and your work, thank you
I just recently had to sell my Xbox series S because I have a kid on the way and we just really
Need the money. I’m gonna miss playing red dead but as soon as I have the money I’m immediately buying a ps5 or series X to get the most out of gaming. But god damn I’m gonna miss riding my ol miss and just enjoying the scenery in red dead. 😞😢
Tbh just get a Xbox one, won’t look as good but better then nothing.
Yes I’ve been waiting for Valentine
Just started my 5th playthrough. Finally got that obscure denim scout jacket from Pearson!
We can meet Thomas downes even earlier when we beat Tommy in that brawl,Thomas was the one who broke the fight and we can even encounter him in the early missions of chapter 2 right after the completion of Colter
Really hope GTA VI will have a lot of mysteries to uncover so we can keep watching your amazing content
John is my favorite sparring partner. All I have to do is put on the raccoon hat, and he comes at me like a bull. As long as he lands the first hit, it's not assault.
what if strange man is gavin
OH NO NOT POOR TOMMY :(
Been here watching every strange man vid since the giant man’s identity revealed video❤ best read dead UA-camr
The fact that grizzled jon get so worked up because you come back with his hat cracks me 😂😂 zi didn't know that detail
2:26 I half-expected Britney Spears to play. 🤣
the man/actor who plays grizzled jon (and a few other npcs) is one my moms clients! he told her it was one of the funnest things he got to be apart of
the guy getting brain damage from arthur is lokey sad
I like that the game doesn't even give you a prompt to read the Chelonian 'bible' when it's offered to you. Arthur just turns it down out of principle alone.
Just north of MacLean’s house (between the ranch and the river) can be found the skeletons of two groups of convicts in shackles. For most of them their legs appeared to have been cut off just above the ankles, and one of them is propped up in a seated position against a tree, his head severed from his body. Any ideas as to the story behind this strange scene?
07:14 soooomoene's Tom is peepin out for sure!!! #OOOOOOOPS
You make some of my favorite RDR2 content on UA-cam man, I’ve found so many amazing things to do in RDR2 because of your videos my guy! Thank you for continuing to produce quality content and keeping RDR2 relevant! 8:11 they’re clearly indulging in the wacky tobacky 😂😂
Skål 🍻
LETSSS GOOOOO. these vids are always so cozy
Racoon hat man is HANDS DOWN my favorite NPC.
Grizzled Jon is wearing something similar to the Legendary Panther cloak so I kind of respect him if he actually took some like Giagulo down. Also love having a nice scrap with him! He’s the best fist fighter in Valentine outside of poor Tommy.
Im a simple Outlaw. I see Strange Man video, I click, Outlaw happy
Never knew that toilet guys name was Mr. Presley 💀
That guy who got punched in 1:24 was so funny HAHAHAH poor guy
sometimes i go to a place called woodhaven lakes and near there is a place that looks similar to valentine and theres even a church at the same exact area
I dont know if it has been mentioned, but @11:55 is also the moment where Auther gets tuberculosis.
Wait! The Knickerbocker crisis happened in 1907, but the storyline with Arthur takes place in 1899. Either they cameoed the knickerbocker crisis or it's an error. Anyways, love watching RDR2 content.
2:25 now that was her own fault, she basically dove into your fist
4:00 Tommy didn't suffer brain damage during the fight, but afterwards.
You are a God STRANGEMAN!
Ahhh the undead nightmare best dlc rockstar ever released other than tbogt. When rockstar was at their best
They'll never be that way again so forget it
Bloody hell you're insightful! How do you do it? I named my son Arthur after playing rdr2
Damn imagine that
Regarding the course, I thought the people heard Dutch and Arthur going down the river, shouting and screaming
I would very much like to learn more about the curse, something about that just makes me wonder what could have been if they just had more time
Definately would love to see a revisited video of the valentine curse!
Was there already a vid about the serial killer? Love your content!
Fire 🔥
Thank you for new video!
More and more I see videos like this. I think this was the greatest game ever produced. I have way more love for RDR 2 then any GTA series. Not to say they wasn't good. But the amount of details, story telling, and other side tell's is extraordinary. Question is will the New GTA surpass RDR2 on all aspects??? 🤔
No. The old Rockstar creative leadership and team is long gone.
Maybe the woman refusing to come in is Harriet from online, she fits the description pretty well if you ask me
Bro I love the comments you make on the videos
I wanted there to be a connection between Jon and the woman in the Saint Denis saloon
He should do the creepiest place in rdr2
ahaha I laughed so hard at 2:26
Even if I have thousands of Hours in this game and I know every secret I love to Watch your videos ❤️
YESSS I WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONE!
is it a stretch to wonder if the woman that's afraid of the cattle skull is the same that told karen of the curse
Woah I didn't know about the woman (apparently her name is Moira) being killed! I heard the arguing but I didn't listen long enough to hear that the sheriff killed her, interesting!
LOVE THESE SECRETS VIDEOS
I personally would ove a revisit to Valentine’s Curse, please consider making it! and thank you for this amazing video
Hell Yeah ! Thanks for the vidéo and keeping it up! yes i would like the revisited video of the valentine mistery. Thanks alot Strange Man you rocks alot !!
Amazing. Thank you
Valentin is my favorite town in rdr2.
Yes, please make a revisited video on the Valentine Curse maybe it is the real cause of Arthur’s death
The murderous prostitute part is by no means so short.
I met the murderous prostitute differently.
I entered the salon and randomly went upstairs to look around.
The mini-map indicated that there was something in one of the rooms and I also heard voices. I went in and saw the same thing that was in the video.
A dead man tied up on the bed and the girl with a knife in her hand, crying and begging me to remove the body in exchange for money. I agreed. The body had to be taken to the nearest pigs and thrown there. I went back to the woman and she gave me the money.
Here, everyone could think that this mini-mission is over, and neither the map nor the game indicated that anything else should be done. I could have gone on anywhere. Something occurred to me. What happens if I go to the sheriff? I saw little chance that there would be a separate dialogue for this, but I thought it was worth a try. I went in and told the sheriff what happened in that room. Then the sheriff and I went up to the room, and the sheriff tied the woman up and took her to jail, and the sheriff gave me money.
It's amazing how long a completely random mission was that I could have interrupted at any minute in any way, then nothing would have happened. That's why I love this game.
anyone else notice in the cemetery next to the church there is one at the back row that has a finger pointing on it? Like as a clue that there is something just north? There is a row of cheaper graves behind it but nothing there and i looked around just past that but found nothing
Awesome job!!
We all agree ..
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Regarding the Valentine Curse, I really Karen is talking about the Feathered Skull Grave, located to the west of Fort Riggs Holding Camp: ua-cam.com/video/bSEiOcNsPEY/v-deo.html
The cow skull one sounds like Harriet from RDO. I always hated her lol
Regarding Tommy, there's a couple of rare things regarding him that a player can find. The first is a bar conversation in Smithfields, where a patron comes up unsolicited while Arthur is drinking and talks about the fight: ua-cam.com/video/ZrDqZ7izMw0/v-deo.html
Also, you make get some dialogue from Jacob Worth and Doctor Ben Calloway about Tommy's condition: ua-cam.com/video/6KnbRxCu1_w/v-deo.html
Also, if "Americans at Rest" is completed before "Polite Society, Valentine Style", there will be added dialogue from Arthur regarding the Tommy fight.
One of these days that intro sound is actually going to fuck my speakers. I know you do it to be cinematic, but why do you have the LOUDEST audio spike at the literal first second of the video?
im hope we become RDR 3 ...with so many secrets again....rdr2 is in totaly worth to play 3x...or stay thousands of hr in this land u will find so many thinks u never saw before in a gameplay....cant wait for rdr3 and im sure it will come before i die "i hope, im so old"
11:00 I have a clip in PS4 of a intense storm in the game. How can I give it to you? Is the only tine I have seen a intense storm in the game, I think it was a bug
I've been waiting for this🎉❤
If we see all this crazy shi. How good will be RDR3....
Cattle Skull connected to the Indian Burial Ground?