Why There Is No Plane Like the A-10 Warthog?
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- The A-10 Thunderbolt II, affectionately known as the Warthog, is exceptional. It has earned its reputation as a formidable support aircraft. The A-10 is built to withstand more damage than any other frame. Its pilot is surrounded by multiple titanium- armor plates, allowing it to endure small-arms fire and continue flying its attack missions.
Other aircrafts: im a plane with a gun
A-10: im a gun with a plane
True
Well technically gau8 but still true regardless
F-4: Im a wing with more wings
some planes:yes, the A10 is not. The plane is way bigger than the gun. Way. other planes this fits, definitely not this one.
LOL more like A-10: I am a Gatling Cannon with a titanium bathtub for my planes cockpit.
Bold of you to make an A10 video without the iconic sights and sounds of its gun.
BRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Lmao 😂
Amen brother
Is it really so bad that there is one short form video that goes over the actual strengths of the a-10 instead of just another "BiG gUn Go BRRRRRRRRRRRR" video?
@@nathangehman7018 Yes
It feels illegal to not put in that magical BBBRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTT
the most horrifying sound to hear bearing down on you
@@theHardChargerVids If you heard it the it wasn't for you
@@ThePoisonedReaper or it was but it simply missed and hit his own troops 7 meters from you. likely the brits knowing the service records and FF statistics on the A-10
I literally opened comments to see if there's a BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTT in the top.
Bring on the God farts!!
My favorite toy as a child.
Your “toy” is obsolete and needs to move aside for the aircraft better suited for this now.
@charliemcawesome5012 why did you need to say that :(
@@charliemcawesome5012 Bro hates childhood whimsy
@@charliemcawesome5012 it'll be obsolete when the name of your family shall be forgotten. You are temporary A-10 is forever
@@charliemcawesome5012 holy shit the F-35 is a poorly managed economic nightmare of a plane. people can like big plane go brr, no need to be a dick about a wholesome comment.
The honey badger of planes
it really is
Holy shiiiit, that's THE most accurate description of that plane, EVER!!
🤣🤣
😂🎯😏
😂😂😂 💯💯💯
Crazy part is I’m deployed and I’m looking directly at one right now it’s my favorite jet
Lucky bastard. It is the greatest technological achievement made by man, and it was done by strapping wings and jet engines onto a bathtub with a minigun.
Building a fighter jet: Let's attach this gun to the jet.
Building A10: Let's attach this jet to this f**king gun
Big Fucking Gun type shi
@@berserkerkev_666type shii😂😂
💥❤️
Or more like: How about we make this gun fly?
@@MosoKaiser so long as you don't fire the gun for too long 😬
“And the A-10 goes BRRRRRTTTT!!!!”
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Except an A-10, it just kills you.
😂😂😂, if it somehow doesn’t you have permanent PTSD
If you're British
Especially if you're on its team
More like it gets killed
Yeah if your on the same time.
The more I hear about this plane, the more I love it!
That's completely backward for me.
Watch laserpig.
I was born and raised in NC my father served in the USAF my first Air Show was A-10 and F-15 featured I'll never forget it!
Ever since it was launched, I've been impressed by the A10.👍 I've always thought if it wasn't called the Warthog, it would be called the Sledge Hammer. It's not fast. It's not pretty. It's effective!
@analogludite..💀..I think it's real pretty..!!
The mighty Thor
@@veenom1979 I'm not a comics guy, but "Thor's Hammer," I can see that. Thunder and lightning from a clear blue sky. I like it.👍👍👍😊
USAF: "Aaaaaand it's gone."
Better not be gone, or you have no concern for the men & women who depend on support! 😊
@bobpickett3788 that is just about EXACTLY why they're mothballing them. The A10 has more blue on blue than any other plane COMBINED
Good, its a pile of shit.
@@phoenixmorrison3625Name another plane designed for close air support. Thats a risk of anything being used for close air support: sometimes your allies are closer than you think. And air superiority fighter can’t have friendly fire unless the target it shoots down happens to crash into friendly lines. Whereas you don’t call in close air support unless friendly lines are being overrun.
F-15E>A-10@@justicedunham4088
Always love it when the A-10s come to Fort Drum to unleash hell on the impact range.
Was certainly sweet music to my ears, when I was in. God bless America and thank you for your service.🇺🇲🙏👍
I had no intention to imply that I have served, sorry for the misunderstanding. The town and area I live in is adjacent to the impact area. It's a constant racket but I love it.
@@michaelhearsonThank you for your service🇺🇲
No biggie, I just assumed that you had served, because of your familiarity with the area. But thank you I appreciate the support. Very proud to serve.
Was on the motor range with them at Drum
i live in Canada directly across the river from Detroit and what a coincidence as im watching this 3 A-10's were literally doing flyby's over detroit performing for the NFL draft day or possibly tigers game
A-10: "Im a titanium bathtub with wings that can fire 65 explosive redbull cans a second"
"There is nothing flimsy or fragile about its construction"
*A-10 in War Thunder literally loses control from a yellow rudder*
I was thinking exactly the same XD
The Su-25 meanwhile tanks 3 aim-9l with almost no damage
War thunder aka Russian bias the game.
@@josecolon5750 The hand of Stalin guides the shell
"wAr THuNDeR" because video games are a realistic representation of warfare. Get out of your momma's basement and put down the Cheetos
Don't forget...it also has self sealing layer around the gas tank. It a round goes through the metal, there's a layer of liquid rubber that comes out the hole and immediately hardens and seals the hole up, so no fuel is lost while taking fire. Awesome concept. Never even would have thought of adding that for protection.
Edit : Ok to the folks that's not getting it. Some people don't know these things so I pointed them out bc I just learned it. Chill geez 🤘🤣🔥
Also, the wheels don't fully retract when in the air. This allows the plane to land if the wheel landings get stuck. That way it won't do a belly slide on the runway. They thought of everything when designing this craft 🤟😜🔥
In no way mean this in a hostile way, genuinely curious - haven't self-sealing fuel tanks been a thing since WWII, if not before?
iirc that was even part of how some Japanese fighters performed so well in dogfights - they didn't have any real safety measures, while most American fighters had self-sealing tanks and added armor in critical areas by the real meat of the conflict. (that was found out after one was captured)
I would assume that this isn't inherently new for the A-10, though I do assume the tanks are probably armored more, or better prepared to seal a big leak, with the understanding it would be under more fire from the ground.
@@Ryzard most people don't know these things. I admit that I didn't know. So when I found out, it tripped me out at how good of an idea that actually is. With the technology and quality we have now, I can only imagine other things we don't know about.
Kramer thought of it when he was CEO of Kramerica............
@@daviedood2503 oh for sure! Also - hence why I had to preface my message lol.
I was... A very undiagnosed child, brought a 600 page book about every fighter plane from WWII to Iraq and read it over and over when I was like 9, so I have knowledge in weird areas, to be honest.
Agreed that that's awesome tech, I assume sorta similar to an advanced version of self sealing tires?
Also agreed - in like twenty years, we'll be hearing about some pretty insane shit that they decide to declassify.
Fun fact: the A-10 Warthog is EXACTLY like an A-10 Warthog.
Good day.
"Why there is no plane like the A-10 Warthog"
*Su-25, Alpha Jet, OV-10 Bronco, SkyWarden, Hs 129 B-3, Mosquito TseTse, Hawker Hurricane "Tin-can opener", Il-2, B25G and Ju-88P-1 have joined the chat*
Alpha jet also
Alpha jets a trainer
@@veryscarypenguin6025 there were some attack variants in Luftwaffe in 80s
😂🤪😝🤣😜🖕😈
And yet none of them have the reputation or record of the A-10.
The inside the door for the step ladder it says, "we've been trying to reach you about your tank's extended warranty." Lol
Ty for your service 😂😂
The A-10 was mainly an Army support aircraft. Comparing it to jet airframes is idiotic. I worked on them in the USAF fuel systems. Those planes along with the C-130 have self sealing fuel bladders. Nuff said.
The A-10 is a "jet airframe." It's not propeller driven.
@@spaceman081447 let me be clear the A-10 was designed to fly slow enough to closely support ground troops
@@spaceman081447 so its Jet driven ? Hmm, interesting
@@dizruptivemindz
Yes, that is very true. The A-10's primary mission is close air support (CAS).
You say it’s idiotic but tell me what other aircraft are there that are like the a-10 and has the same purpose in providing CAS?
A-10: im like no one else
Su-25 Frogfoot: ?
There's nothing like an A10 flying over your fighting position as it opens up its cannon and pulverizes an armored vehicle. Those poor souls.
And you along the way because it's as precise as me kicking a soccerball.
Keep this bird in service ground troops will always appreciate it.
They love it. Call it their guardian angel. But all the STATISTICS keyboard warriors who have NEVER been in combat think they know better.
@@OffGridInvestor Yep including the USAF, who has been trying to retire the A10 since the 90s 😅
@@OffGridInvestorthe only reason the A-10 is staying is because of a new set of wings able to increase its service to 2030. The F-15E is a better jet than the A-10 and delivers air to ground attacks more efficiently.
The Warthog is a fearsome BEAST!!! I've seen them in action!!! 😮
@SirLanguageLearning Yeah, I've heard discussions regarding this. All that I'm saying is that the experience of several of these planes coming out of nowhere and SHRIEKING across the sky at low altitude (it almost felt as if the planes were tearing apart the atmosphere!! 😮) was an awesome and fearful experience!!
Titanium plates, robust flying with engine failures & still bombing, a metallic Braveheart!
I had the old PC game on 5.25" floppy. I remember "driving" the A-10 on the ground and hopping up to fire the gun at targets.
Su-25: “Am I a joke to you?”
A-10: Yes.
@@Karuiko Fw 190: both of you are
Yes
@@opshunter1228 il-2: lol
@@Karuiko Su-25: *crying
Grandson of the Jug.
P-47 Best Armored vehicle of WW2
* not an Iowa Class
Jug Kills Everything.
@@jmjones7897 I fucking love this thank you sir
@thesquirrel914 Thank you.
Some one should remember.
We need those Men today
"Why is there no plane like A-10?"
Su 25: 🤨
F-15E aswell:🤨
Its perfect. .. the original flying tank ! You should see some of the condition they've made it home in ! Its a 1 of a kind , a true mold breaker !
no its not a mould breaker, the IL-2 sturmovic had its neichie before than and for literal flying tanks that the british had ideas for flying churchils.
its not even close to perfect, it has no radar, almost no capeability to defend itself from other planes or any kind of modern air defence, cant survive missles or anything of a higher calaber than 23 mm
@@tankace7605 yeah, the ILL-2 , of course... that's the mysterious invisible aircraft thats been litteing the battlefields with terrorists and everything from tanks to other aircraft ? What was I thinking, break out a couple squadrons of those ? You know what I love about writing a post the most, those people who have nothing better to do so they search for something that somebody posted and dissect it , save that shit for Fakebook, its perfect for keyboard cool kids with nothing quite intuitive or intellectual enough to have a meaningful conversation experience, I'd say save that shit for your girl, except we all know your probably holding out for a sexbot or something that has to listen to you ? here you go, I just realized that plane you mentioned is the best attack aircraft ever made and I hear that the Chinese are looking to hack it because of the sterling record its got... cheers ?
"brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
He he he, gun go "brrrrrrrrr" No more enemy. LOL
Those beasts can even take SAM strikes, and AAA fire and keep flying!
LMAO
The A-10 is rated against AP and HE shells up to 23mm, to an extent of course and depending on what exactly is hit. A modern SAM would undeniably render the aircraft inoperable, though if it struck the rear or wingtip there could be a chance the pilot is able to eject
SU-25:
I've seen 2/3 of the wings blown off and part of the tail a good portion of the vertical stabilizers gone with so many 50cal wholes that she looked like Swiss cheese all over and she got home ...
@@HoorGuvLabs apples and oranges, nothing wrong with your 25, its just not in the same conversation, the HOG is a flying beast, she'll take so much more abuse than anything that's ever flown without props
This aircraft is one of our favourite Fighter Jets. It's got a unique sound, a unique way to manoeuvre in the air and a unique design, as you mentioned. When one of us, who was Mars, went to The United States of America, he heard a Fighter Jet coming his way. Once he saw it, the Fighter Jet was the A-10 Thunderbolt II. So, he quickly got out his phone to record it, and got a great scene out of it. He then sent it to the rest of us, and we were rather impressed by this. We reckon that we had never seen something like this. So, well done on the Shorts Video. You've highlighted one of our favourite Fighter Jets, and we can't wait to see more from you. Keep up the good work.
The A-10 isnt a fighter. Its an Attacker. Hence the deisgnation A instead of F.
Imagine a stealth A-10
Just wait until people find out about the sky warden
@@202TheWatcher huh?
@@SEBDOESSTUFFOFFICIAL he meant the warden was from minecraft
@@202TheWatcher UHH !??? DID YOU MEAN ' SOLAR WARDEN ' !???🙄🤔🤔
Imagine a stealth Howitzer.
War Thunder A-10 when the rudder is yellow: *LITERALLY DIES*
Like war thunder is so accurate 🤣
@@marioStortuga IT'S NOT! That is the whole joke, that the War Thunder A-10 model sucks ass!
My hope they never get rid of that plane if they ever do I hope they replace the insides of the plane but keep the body
They are already preparing to retire it because its horribly outdated and as much of a threat to our own personnel and our allies than it is to the enemy. It is responsible for the most blue on blue incidents of any plane in the US military.
It's outdated and is getting retired.
The A 10 has saved countless lives of troops on the ground. They get goose pimples every time they hear the cannon when in battle.
Now I badly *want* "one" of this in my *garage!* ☝🏽 . . . 💯% ✅️ 👌🏽 👍🏼
Mummy, i want one for christmas
Enemy soldiers hate that noise that the cannon gun gives
Impossible. If you're the target, you'll never hear it.
Awww... I was waiting for the Bbbrrrrrrrttttttt!!!!!
THE A10 IS MY FAVORITE ATTACK
PLANE, LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT
IT!!
Damn that black momba look ❤❤❤
su-25 and mig-27 exists
Yes they do, and the mig 27 main purpose wasnt to groundstrike unlike the su25 and a10
@@yourlocalboatythe mig27 was a ground pounder MiG 23, essentially the USSR’s f15E
@@yourlocalboatythe MIG 27 is a purpose built ground-attack aircraft so wtf are you waffling about.
@@imGeistevereint Oh sorry, I though you said su 27
@@frosty_shiba4311 meant to say su 27, sorry
The A-10 - it just works. It just kicks ass. And it just kills.
No "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"? how criminal, that's its main feature.
F/A-18 Hornet disagrees.
F = Fighter
A = Attack
Nah bro I work on 18’s, they’re mid compared to the A-10. Their biggest claim to fame is how many drop tanks they can carry and still land on a carrier, that’s about it
A-10 disagrees with *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT*
@@Blue0010 f18 also has a rotary cannon.
@@_Sogo aren't all the guns on modern jets rotary?
@@Jeff55369 Yes on all US aircraft. Other nations I'm not 100% sure of. Even the F35A has a rotary 25mm. The B and C variant can mount the GAU-22/A 25mm rotary gatling cannon.
Friendly fire: activated😂
For real.
Danger Close.
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!!!!!
Brrrrt
There is a reason why us Russians, didn’t develop further IL-104 program (analogue of A-10 “Warthog”), and started to R&D in Su-39 “Grach”. A-10 can’t operate well enough in certain environments, while Russian attacker, despite its range limitations and less payload than USAs’, is good enough for operating almost everywhere with a flat surface. Plus it consumes less fuel than Warthog, which is understandable due to its size.
Yeah then why do they keep getting shot down over ukraine? Despite all these claims it seems the Russian airforce can't seem to gain air superiority over the one small country they're trying to invade. Makes one think...
The black viper paint schemes are 🔥.
She’s one of my all time favorites and I have great respect for her 😎🫡💪🏽
Meanwhile the 2k22 Tunguska: i'm about to ruin this man's whole career.
Bs the a-10 is very maneuverable.
only at slow speeds lol
I was just about to post that.
@@thejadedkillergood, cause it doesn't go fast anyway😂😂 what's the top speed? 600kph?
@@vraku9624 seems that's a bit faster than recent hypercars but not fast german Mercedes-Benz t80 1939
@@vraku9624 ground to air missile says hi lmao
The A10 is an exceptional machine. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
I remember back in my college years watching these take off & land at Myrtle Beach AFB, and I _always_ wanted to fly one!! Of course, that base closed in 1993, but...
Wow!! 😳 I can hardly believe that was 30+ years ago! Yeah, I guess I'm gettin' old, but so what‽ It happens to the best of us! 😘😋😆
Enemy must be in open desert with zero air defense capabilities
A strong airforce will always use multiple platforms at the same time. So this a10 would only come in when f22 or f35 has cleared the area of antiair etc. These multiple layers will make sure the enemy does not know what to do.
@@FaithStarCraftHD or you could just use the '35 which can defend itself and use its superier long range ordanace to destroy the enemy before the a10 has a chance to get even fucking close
@@tankace7605 and thats the reason the a10 will ne fased out. It had its use, but with modern smart bombs and accurate missiles they probably obsolete.
@@FaithStarCraftHD the a10 has a similar effect to the f18, yes modern weapons can do better in single target environments, but both of the aforementioned planes have something new gen airframes do not, SHEAR UNDILUTED MASS OF PAYLOAD... its a quality of quantity thing
@@brayachdragonbane7529 very true. The sight of a fully stacked F/A18 is realy something.
The best plane in the fleet❤😮
Far from it. An F-15E can carry about the same amount of guided munitions while having good air to air capability and also not being a free target for SAM’s. Cool gun tho.
@@NathanIrizarry1F-15 is not doing close ground support either. You're comparing an apple to an orange 🤨
@@infiniterer287 what the fuck are you even saying? That’s literally it’s main role now. We’re not in desert storm anymore. Literally look up F-15 pilots, they’ll say that’s what they train for nowadays. It’s literally why the A-10’s are getting retired.
@@NathanIrizarry1 the f15e maybe. Some F15 squadrons are the only ones doing 100% air to air. And no it isnt as good just because they trained in it. When it comes to danger close infantry support nothing beats a slow gun. Not a SINGLE guided munition in the stockpile comes close. That's why we put a shit ton of them on a cargo plane that became the king of CAS. This argument was killed in vietnam when prop planes, subsonic trainer jets, and another cargo plane were the most successful and accurate CAS platforms.
@@jonnybgoode7742 the F-15E is the one im referring to. 🤦🏻♂️ Go back and read my initial comment. Also the F-15C isn’t active duty in the USAF anymore so you’re point is moot. The F-15E can carry up to 28 of the new SDB 2’s while still not being a slow truck and being able to defend itself. In the modern battlefield a slow gun gets hit by a manpad or some SPAA and that’s it. We’re not in vietnam anymore.
Saddest day as a kid when I learned the A10 is only a one seater and I'd never be able to get a ride along in one. They used to fly over us surfing by Camp Lejeune upside down and wave to us.
There is a prototype 2 seated A-10, however it was never used in combat.
I have always greatly enjoyed the A-10. It's so simple yet so deadly
"The pilot is surrounded by multiple titanium plates."
No he/she isn't. The "bathtub" (as it is colloquial known) is one piece. It may be multiple pieces welded together, but its still installed and utilized as a single piece.
so... multiple titanium plates welded together?
@@orbglorb-zingalorg it becomes one piece i guess
thanks
@@quack3293 THE ONE PIECE!
You have described multiple plates. That's what he meant. A single piece would be something molded or formed from one sheet in a single part, not riveted or welded together from multiple separate pieces.
Otherwise you could claim the entire plane is "one piece"
"We've been trying to reach you about your tank's extended warranty..."
🤣
The Sound of the A10's guns are EPIC! Fell in love, when I saw one do a Loop de loop and I was serving on a F15 / F16 Base!❤❤❤❤
I’ve only seen two of these flying about over the sea when I’ve been beach fishing in Norfolk in the uk & that is about 21 - 22 years ago & the sound of the engines was mental to hear & that’s the only time that I’ve seen them in the uk
Сухой Су-25 Грач left the chat...
I hear about that piece of flying scrap metal getting shot down every other day 💀
@@ll-EwoJima-ll A-10 cant even hit enemies without killing whole batalion of allies
@@ll-EwoJima-llso, why it’s still being used for decades?
@@NiMo1848 Because they have no other replacements that are affordable.
@@TysiekFox A battalion? Do you know anything about the military and how it works? Statistics say that the A-10 has a friendly fire problem, but that’s not true. When you’re doing air to ground, it’s very hard to tell who is who so friendly fire will happen. The A-10 is the most used Attack aircraft and is pretty much the only one that the US has.
So of course the more it’s used, the more that rate will go up. This isn’t just for the A-10 but for every other attack aircraft fighter in the world. Now let’s talk about how the Russian’s keep shooting each other down. That’s actual inaccuracy and is something that’s worse than the A-10 problem. I also don’t think you know what a battalion is.
The A-10 is good, but there’s no way that it can take out an entire battalion friendly or not unless it’s just general stupidity. Also, over the course of 5 years, the A-10 has only killed 35 civilians and less than 50 friendlies which is more than 19 times less than the size of a battalion. Now let’s talk about how much better the A-10 is compared to the Su-25. The A-10 has only been shot down 6 times while the Su-25 has been shot down at least 38 times but that number is most likely higher. It’s also 6 times more than the A-10.
It’s also likely that 5,000-25,000 Russians have been killed by friendlies. America will always be better than Russia. Russia will soon fall and all of them will become either American or a new nation. We aren’t scared of their nukes seeing that most of them are too weak to actually do damage.
The A-10 is very maneuverable.
Oh hell no
@@user-rs3jn1sg9zyes it is, not with bombs tho 😂
@@remove1900 even without bombs its a brick the turn time is 29 seconds. To put that in perspective; the Su-25 has a turn time of 27 seconds and the F-16 a turn rate of 19 seconds.
@@user-rs3jn1sg9z from where are you taking your info. A 10 is very agile due to combination of straight wing and low speeds. Simple physics.
@@remove1900 by your logic the TB-3 should be the most manouvrable plane in existence because it has giant straight wings and is very slow
My source is War Thunder. Sure, its a little silly but considering its focus on accuracy and the ammount of research they do (they litteraly have historical advisors all over the world with access to archives, contacts, etc.) i'd say its accurate.
Frighteningly beautiful..... the bringer of holy fire.....
My favorite attack plane ever since seeing it in person at Ellington Airforce Base in S. Houston back in 1988.💪🏻🤘🏻
It's a tank with wings.
Antonov A40: *what about me?*
still wont survive any modern air defence systems
It doesn't look like an aerogavin so it isn't a tank with wings. False advertising
The A-10 is one sexy beast. everything about it is perfection. i have always thought Russian aircraft and military vehicles seem to look goofy or have goofy looking details and countours compared to western hardware
Not always, but often, they are flawed interpretations of western designs, so that's certainly a part of it.
it is not even close to perfection, its slow it cant manovre its ordanance is outdated along with the gun, it has no radar and cant defend itself from any modern air defence or planes
WARTHOG is not a plane; it's a gun with wings
This is why Cobra uses them against the Joes!!
I like how no one mentioned the gun is actually off centered
All the more reasons to keep it once F-22s /F-35s / 15-16s clear out radars etc you call in the A-10s to clean up enemy ground troops tanks enemy fuel deports etc it's built tough hitting low ground targets that's needed those other planes get hit they have to go back to base not the A-10 it can stay in the fight to win🫡
"Hey, A10: Whatcha thinking about?"
"You know, 'BRRRRRT' and stuff..."
Great Design!❤
It’s also obsolete. The Russo-Ukrainian has shown that the Su-25 and 35 are grossly obsolete (just like the F16 and especially the A10). This is why the Air Force is retiring the A-10. Once the 6th generation fighter is released and upcoming drones, the F15, F16, F18 need to be retired
Really wish more people understood this.
Yes, the gun goes brrt. It's neat.
But it was a fundamentally flawed concept to begin with, in all reality. If you are considering peer to peer warfare, not dunking on a barely funded military in the desert, you can't fly a hot brick that is visible to every missile in a 500 mile radius.
Can you imagine the A-10 taking on russia, or another developed military? The vision was for the A-10 to run the lines, like it was trench warfare again... But SAM sites exist, much less manpads.
Nowadays, that's even more clear. War without clear air superiority and ground threats cleared makes the A-10 more or less a sitting duck...
@@Ryzard I mean yeah, the A-10 was designed for the kinds of wars the US were ACTUALLY fighting... not the ones Wargame Red Dragon players like to froth about...
The F-22 was designed for that peer warfare scenario... and what's it actually done?
On the other hand though, the idea was for the A-10 to aid lightly equipped infantry in the CAS role... lightly equipped infantry don't go up against the kinds of units that HAVE significant SAM protection in the first place, and if it's a battalion equipped with a few SA-8s and Shilkas for air defence... not really much of a problem for an A-10. Lob a couple Mavericks from outside SAM range and then move in once the threat is gone to aid the troops on the ground going up against BMPs and BTRs...
@@LucyJrts that is not true.
The A-10 was designed for a war with the Soviet Union - specifically to bust Soviet tanks and tank lines - which is SPECIFICALLY WHAT PEOPLE WARGAME - and something that never happened.
The F-22 also hasn't seen conflict because we've generally been smart enough to avoid conflict with other nations that have that level of capabilities.
Also, the idea that lightly equipped infantry don't have to go up against people with manpads or anti air emplacements is just... Incorrect. Ukraine is a good example, and that isn't even peer to peer.
As I have said a lot, the A-10 is exclusively useful in situations where you have complete air superiority, generally complete ground superiority, and can ensure a lack of air defenses.
Even then, it's slow and vulnerable to most ground fire, even from unconventional means.
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With your scenario, other jets even in service right now can carry similar or more munitions, with faster speeds, better performance and flight characteristics or stealth, better tech in the cockpit, and less risk.
They also are less risk to civilians and friendly troops.
That cannon was designed to pop Soviet MBTs, and it's never been consistently good at that - so they widened the range of what was considered a tank.
Most kills come from the rockets/bombs/missiles the A-10 can carry, which again, other jets can do that without sucking at being jets.
This thing is half a century old - and it shows. It isn't fast, it isn't stealthy, and it isn't particularly good at its job - and it's getting expensive to maintain and update with the times.
Yes, it's cool as hell, I love it to bits, but... That doesn't mean it justifies longer service life.
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Final note - with the f-22 - what has it done? What does it need to do? The fact that we haven't needed (that we know of) much from the f-22 is a good thing, to be honest.
But it's better to design a good plane that isn't needed, rather than an inadequate plane that is unprepared for the conflict it enters.
What the faq are you on about?
@@Ryzard I’m going to address your points one at a time, and please let me preface that by saying that I too believe the A-10 should’ve been retired a decade ago and I’m glad it’s finally getting retired now.
The A-10 may have been envisioned as a tank-buster back in the late 60s when Alexander Kartveli designed it, mainly based on the success of the Israeli Mirage’s 30mm guns popping Egyptian and Syrian tanks in 1967, but by the time the A-10 was actually being built, the USAF already knew it was never going to be able to DO that against newer T-72s and T-80s. Tank-busting was only ever PART of its envisioned role though - an added bonus thrown in to sweeten the deal for prospective buyers, so it didn’t matter that it wasn’t actually going to turn out that way. The main role the A-10 was always designed for was CAS - it was to be a modern day A-1 Skyraider (the A-1 was still being used by the USAF when the A-10 first flew). CAS doesn’t mean engaging convoys of tanks and other vehicles rolling down highways (that was the F-111’s job)… it means engaging emplaced infantry, machine gun nests, RPG and ATGM teams, maybe a few BMPs or BTRs and MTLBs, PT-76s etc., things the A-10 and it’s 30mm gun are very, VERY good at! In the rare case that you DID have to engage main battle tanks in the A-10, you use your Mavericks to do it. That was very much what it was designed to do - it’s a common misconception that the A-10 was solely built as a gun plane and bombs and missiles were added on as an afterthought because the gun couldn’t get the job done. That line of thinking was thanks to idiots like James Burton and Pierre Sprey, in actuality the A-10 was designed from the off to carry large amounts of ordnance, and to USE its ordnance primarily for its role.
The F-22 has not seen combat (unless you count balloons and scaring a couple Iranian F-4s) because it was designed for a war the US never had to fight, yes. That’s exactly my point. The A-10 was designed for the conflicts we were ACTUALLY getting into. No point having a fast supercar if the job you’re actually gonna be doing day to day is hauling cargo… The F-22 is an amazing jet, and it’s flashy and cool and the most capable thing in the skies… but the A-10 in a conflict like Iraq or Afghanistan was substantially more practical.
Lightly equipped infantry obviously have to go up against enemy forces equipped MANPADS and other company-level air defences - Strelas and Shilkas mainly, a few SA-8s or even SA-19s in the worst case scenario, and sometimes it’s literally just a couple of ZU-23 positions and KPV machine guns… but the A-10 can easily handle ALL of those threats. SA-8 and SA-19 top out at about 8km range, Strela and Shilka more like 4 to 5, MANPADS more like 2.5 to 3, and the ZU-23 is barely effective at more than 2km. A-10 can drop guided bombs or launch Mavericks from 15km away.
What I meant in my original comment by “significant SAM protection” is the likes of the S-300, the Buk or Kub, stuff like that. Those are division/regiment-level air defences. They protect strategic sites like cities, command posts, repair facilities, transport hubs etc… motorised or mechanised infantry battalions do not have those systems, so the A-10 doesn’t have to worry about them when supporting ground troops AGAINST those kinds of units, which is what it’s main role is.
Incidentally… counter-terrorist/counter-insurgency operations don’t generally involve you going up against anything more dangerous than a Strela/Shilka combo AT ALL - those kinds of forces aren’t equipped with significant anti-air systems.
Yes other aircraft can carry all the same stuff the A-10 can, and often just as much of it, while being faster and more generally capable... But those platforms are also more expensive to procure, more expensive to operate, have less loiter time, AND can only operate from full airbases with significant ground support. The A-10 can take off from a dirt road in the middle of nowhere, and it can do so much quicker than an F-16 or F-15E can, let alone the F-111. You’d be surprised how long it takes to start up a fighter jet… the A-10 can do it in a fifth the time! It’s also much more heavily protected than those other platforms in the event that it DOES get hit by a MANPADS or raked by a 23mm cannon, with triple-redundant flight controls and titanium armor around its most important areas. Those are much more important criteria for a CAS platform than high top speed…
It’s another common misconception that compared to other aircraft, the A-10 had very little technology in the cockpit. That’s rubbish. In fact it was significantly better as far as targeting systems go than most other aircraft of its time, if not at least equal. It was only in the late 90s that it was superseded in that regard, with the introduction of things like LANTIRN and LITENING. Its unfortunate legacy of blue-on-blue incidents is just a factor of CAS aircraft in general. The Phantom, Jaguar, Su-25, the Su-34, the Harrier… they all do it. The A-10 has done it more because the A-10 was USED more.
The problem is that the A-10C upgrade removed the best PART of the A-10 - it’s low cost and simplicity. Meanwhile, CFTs allow F-16Cs to loiter for just as long as the A-10 can while carrying almost the same amount of ordnance. On the flipside, company-level air defence doesn’t mean simple Strelas and Shilkas these days… it means Tors, HQ-17s and Pantsirs. Older MANPADS replaced by Verbas and such. Things the A-10 just cannot deal with. Hence why the A-10 should’ve been retired ten years ago.
Also, even if all the hydraulic systems fail, there's manual reversion, a mechanical control system.
Requires a lot of strength and it's w lot harder to control as well but there have been 4 landings recorded.
My favorite plane even to this day since childhood! ⚡️💪🏽⚡️
Thanks for the service gentlemen
The Warthog would be great plane to turn into a drone. It has great weapons for close ground assault and can be armed for air defence. With a upgraded radar for air support it would be a perfect drone for todays environment and wouldn’t take long to teach people how to operate
Its bathtub is too heavy, not removing it would be expensive for a drone, removing it would result in a heavy gravitational center shifting, so it is one of the worst planes for drone making, and it is hella expensive.
It would be significantly easier and better to just design a drone from the ground up, tbh. The entire plane is designed around the cockpit, and human limits/safety, etc.
With a drone, you can redesign so much of the thing it'd be unrecognizable - not to mention that the A-10 is over half a century old.
It's slow, heavy, and it can't really pull or carry what it needs to in modern warfare. Renovating it while keeping all the flaws would unfortunately just be inefficient.
@@Ryzard ok I agree it would be better to build new drones. I think they could use a lot of the Warthog abilities with upgrades from today’s technology for the base. Ukraine needs planes / drones to help their air defence plus have the capability to help the troops on the front line. Designing a drone based on the A10 could fit that need
@@NateAussie fair enough chief o7
It is nimble and agile…just not fast. So the “…unlike agile and nimble planes…” bit is nonsense.
no it aint, it turns like a brick
@@user-rs3jn1sg9zwar thunder player
I watched an awesome demonstration of the A-10 at an airshow in the 1980s. I can't imagine what it can do now.
Awesome plane
Still can’t figure out what’s a friendly or an enemy. That things has killed more ally’s than hostiles
not the piolts fault, i know you arent blaming them but someone will
No it hasn't. If that happened then the A10 may not of been in use anymore
@@codycallaway9057 it really has killed more friendlys than any other us jet in history and possibly us plane in history, I don't know about the more friendlys than enemys thing but I wouldn't be suprised.
@@tankace7605 I wasn't saying there hasn't been friendly fire I was correcting him bc he said it killed more friendly than enemies
I love the "We've been trying to reach you about your tank's extended warranty" image where the ladder is, lol
A10 is a Goliath of attack planes. Fearsome & mission fulfilled ground attack plane.
A-10 is the T-800 of fighter planes.
It's also an incredibly outdated pos.
War is war
@@gordonsmith5589 until you heard about friendly fires on this lackluster vs conventional aircraft
It’s my favorite of all time!
"Exceptional" is a huge understatement.
One of my favorites
i see the A-10s fly everyday n one of my favorite plane
"low, slow, kill everything below". One of the oldest untouched aircraft. Its a gun with wings.
I wanted to fly this BAD❤❤. My eyes weren't good enough. Another dream crushed
Engine out, kick it out. I'll love the flighting bathtub. Slow and low, here we go. Only plane that can inhale and chew up & spit out almost anything and keep running. It's one of my favorite old jets.
This is why the warthog in my opinion is my favorite