That's an older concept before some significant improvements were made, eg a tapered upper portion to help point the arrows a few degrees away from the back and a tab that drapes over the outer pocket -- this helps with reinserting arrows into the pouch without removing the quiver. Wooden quivers are surprisingly good if designed well and kept light. Armin was simply being kind mentioning it. If you're in the US, I'll send one, or a general design that may optimize the results of your first build. I find a thin long rip (approx 21") of a good hardwood makes the best quiver; one that dual functions as a back and belt/pocket side quiver. Cocobolo is my favorite for this, but many types are suitable. The one Armin mentions is cherrywood.
@@havahand Thank you for the offer, not in the US I'm afraid. I could use a hip quiver for 33-37" Manchu style arrows a few personal tweaks to this might work for me. Not sure I have the shoulder mobility to use a back quiver even if I was using short arrows, definitely not 37" arrows.
@@marctull3596 This will be my third and last attempt to reply. UA-cam has deleted two previous replies where I offered to send a quiver gratis. In attempt to directly answer your question again, there is no means to order anything -- it's a hobby.
Beautiful bow, but... I am not expert in building bows and never build a laminated bow and i see a flaw. And that is when the bow is stringed, you can see the bend in the limbs is not balanced, it bends more near the riser, wich means that area is weaker than it should be. And that's why it vibrates so much, because most of the potential energy wich the bow can store is in the section close to the riser and this makes the rest of the limb hold alot of material wich is not used. And i see this in many youtubers who build bows and many comercial bows. This flaw can be eliminated if you either taper the strip of fiber glass wich is pretty hard to do. Or the strip of wood in the middle, the core wich is also hard but not imposible if you have a good table saw and some jig. Having a tapered core would make the bow much more stable and balanced. The way they taper the limbs is tapering the sides of the limb, but that is not enough. So, an ideal bow would have tapered core, tapered sides, tapered fiberglass faces, but the only way to have such thing is to find someone to custom that for you. Or make it yourselfs, the comercial bows are made in the easiest process for them to manufacture a lot of bows fast. Does this make this bow bad? No, is still a good bow, although i would like to see more in these comercial laminated bows a nice round curve in full draw on the limbs. I bet that if you were to over draw this bow till it's breaking point, that's the place where it will fail, near the handle. I've seen self bows long bows, wich have much balanced limbs with a nice round curve in draw, wich are made with hand tools and no power tools, more than i see in modern laminated bows made with expencive modern tools. I mean cmon guys, you have all this technology at your feet and hundreds of years of history of bow making, do better.
Not a bow I'd buy but can see it being a good kit for those who don't own a longbow but want to get on for cheap. Another example of a western style trad bow that is a better buy from Asia than from America. This kit from AF would be 300$ or more here in the stats and that's just the bow. Wouldn't get the other things AF gives with this bow. Great review as always.
That they name this "Recurve bow" on the amazon shop page leaves a bit of a untrustworthy feeling about the manufacturer ... but anyway, pity this was not available when I was looking for a 62-64" bamboo limb hybrid longbow 2 years back :-) could have saved a lot of money ....
In my country, there are two different federation of bow shooting. For the first, as long as the string dont touch the bending part of the limb, it's considered as a longbow ( with i consider really stupid). For the other federation, when the limbs have an inflexion on it, it's a recurve( many reflex deflex are made to not have it). So this bow would be considered as a recurve.@@AndrewAnderson-vb4pp
Bow has a nice bend to it. Very good "d" shape a draw. Only problem is I have a 32 inch draw. I practiced at 28+ but it feels uncomfortable having my draw hand in front of my face. O to be shorter.....not.
Nice bow! But 10 pounds shy for the minimal requierements for Hunting and you must be a certified hunter. In Austria and Germany it is not allowed to hunt with a bow. And IF there is ONE person, that I trust to shoot precise enough, AND to know that he hits the spot, AND does NOT shoot, if he feels he wouldn't kill with this shot - fair hunting practice -, it is You Master Hirmer! Greets
There was (unfortunately now in Valhalla) a fellow by the name of Peter Laffin who built longbows specifically with light draw weights and high FPS. His bows were typically 30Lbs and reached 200 FPS even with 10GPP arrows. If I remember correctly, he began by eliminating all deflex and adding only reflex, but as longbows.
@@havahand as far as I know at least 500gr.. so at least 16 or mor GPP AND 200 FPS.... That would translate to a 45 pound draw weight or more.... Shoulderblades of a big deer can be like plywood....
Always impressed that Armin can switch from thumb ring to 3 finger release . Nice bow for a great price.
still making useful, interesting & helpful vids, after all these years. keep 'em coming Armin!
thank you
I bought this a year ago when you reviewed it as " af American longbow ". I like it 👍🎯❤️🇺🇸
Perfect timing lol i literally JUST looked on youtube to see if anybodys reviewed this
The audio comes in crystal clear.
Hello, good review as always!
but why did you stop making an information table with all bow dimensions, speed, etc.? it was very helpful.
I might borrow that idea and make myself a quiver.
That's an older concept before some significant improvements were made, eg a tapered upper portion to help point the arrows a few degrees away from the back and a tab that drapes over the outer pocket -- this helps with reinserting arrows into the pouch without removing the quiver. Wooden quivers are surprisingly good if designed well and kept light. Armin was simply being kind mentioning it. If you're in the US, I'll send one, or a general design that may optimize the results of your first build. I find a thin long rip (approx 21") of a good hardwood makes the best quiver; one that dual functions as a back and belt/pocket side quiver. Cocobolo is my favorite for this, but many types are suitable. The one Armin mentions is cherrywood.
@@havahand Thank you for the offer, not in the US I'm afraid. I could use a hip quiver for 33-37" Manchu style arrows a few personal tweaks to this might work for me.
Not sure I have the shoulder mobility to use a back quiver even if I was using short arrows, definitely not 37" arrows.
@havahand - do you make the quivers? Is it possible to order one? Thanks!
@@marctull3596 This will be my third and last attempt to reply. UA-cam has deleted two previous replies where I offered to send a quiver gratis. In attempt to directly answer your question again, there is no means to order anything -- it's a hobby.
I just responded and UA-cam deleted it. Will try again. Definitely interested and thanks! This one seems to be holding. How do I contact you?
Looks like the OAK RIDGE BELI LENGTHY of SSA archery .I admit on this bow the woods look better .
I've just brought a Ash War bow made the same way as the 15th war bows are made, by Boston Bows based in UK.
As always… Even if something is not my type, Armin is able to sell it to me 😂😂😂
Thx again for the infos, quality as always…
Hallo Armin,
Hast du das Video in Deutschland gemacht? Oder auf Malta?
Österreich, wo ich seit einem Jahr lebe
Beautiful bow, but...
I am not expert in building bows and never build a laminated bow and i see a flaw.
And that is when the bow is stringed, you can see the bend in the limbs is not balanced, it bends more near the riser, wich means that area is weaker than it should be.
And that's why it vibrates so much, because most of the potential energy wich the bow can store is in the section close to the riser and this makes the rest of the limb hold alot of material wich is not used. And i see this in many youtubers who build bows and many comercial bows.
This flaw can be eliminated if you either taper the strip of fiber glass wich is pretty hard to do.
Or the strip of wood in the middle, the core wich is also hard but not imposible if you have a good table saw and some jig.
Having a tapered core would make the bow much more stable and balanced. The way they taper the limbs is tapering the sides of the limb, but that is not enough.
So, an ideal bow would have tapered core, tapered sides, tapered fiberglass faces, but the only way to have such thing is to find someone to custom that for you.
Or make it yourselfs, the comercial bows are made in the easiest process for them to manufacture a lot of bows fast.
Does this make this bow bad? No, is still a good bow, although i would like to see more in these comercial laminated bows a nice round curve in full draw on the limbs.
I bet that if you were to over draw this bow till it's breaking point, that's the place where it will fail, near the handle.
I've seen self bows long bows, wich have much balanced limbs with a nice round curve in draw, wich are made with hand tools and no power tools, more than i see in modern laminated bows made with expencive modern tools.
I mean cmon guys, you have all this technology at your feet and hundreds of years of history of bow making, do better.
thank you
Not a bow I'd buy but can see it being a good kit for those who don't own a longbow but want to get on for cheap. Another example of a western style trad bow that is a better buy from Asia than from America. This kit from AF would be 300$ or more here in the stats and that's just the bow. Wouldn't get the other things AF gives with this bow.
Great review as always.
🙏
I like your channel, I have a question what is the name brand of the Mic you are use here in this vid.
Hollyland Lark M2
@@ArminHirmer awesome thank you boss man
Pmz do a lovely 3 pc longbow and it's cheap, my fave ❤
That they name this "Recurve bow" on the amazon shop page leaves a bit of a untrustworthy feeling about the manufacturer ... but anyway, pity this was not available when I was looking for a 62-64" bamboo limb hybrid longbow 2 years back :-) could have saved a lot of money ....
Lost in translation 🤷🏻♂️
This bow would actually be classed as a recurve bow if you where to shoot it in a competition,
@@AndrewAnderson-vb4pp depending on the rules. You can shoot it in trlb with wood arrows
In my country, there are two different federation of bow shooting.
For the first, as long as the string dont touch the bending part of the limb, it's considered as a longbow ( with i consider really stupid).
For the other federation, when the limbs have an inflexion on it, it's a recurve( many reflex deflex are made to not have it). So this bow would be considered as a recurve.@@AndrewAnderson-vb4pp
Isn't this the same bow as the af archery American long bow from 2 years ago maybe?
I think so yes, maybe small changes
Bow has a nice bend to it. Very good "d" shape a draw. Only problem is I have a 32 inch draw. I practiced at 28+ but it feels uncomfortable having my draw hand in front of my face. O to be shorter.....not.
Nice but 35 pounds is for small game rabbits and such good for target shooting
of course :) but I guess the bow is in higher poundage available up to 50 if I am not mistaken
@@ArminHirmerit reminds me of the bow I had as a kid
Nice bow! But 10 pounds shy for the minimal requierements for Hunting and you must be a certified hunter. In Austria and Germany it is not allowed to hunt with a bow. And IF there is ONE person, that I trust to shoot precise enough, AND to know that he hits the spot, AND does NOT shoot, if he feels he wouldn't kill with this shot - fair hunting practice -, it is You Master Hirmer! Greets
There was (unfortunately now in Valhalla) a fellow by the name of Peter Laffin who built longbows specifically with light draw weights and high FPS. His bows were typically 30Lbs and reached 200 FPS even with 10GPP arrows. If I remember correctly, he began by eliminating all deflex and adding only reflex, but as longbows.
@@havahand as far as I know at least 500gr.. so at least 16 or mor GPP AND 200 FPS.... That would translate to a 45 pound draw weight or more.... Shoulderblades of a big deer can be like plywood....