New Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG DN vs Sony 35mm f/1.4 GM
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Thanks for clear comparisation. My choice remains the Sony FE f1,8/35mm. I like pocketability combined with high quality. Perfect combo with Zeiss f1,8/55mm and Samyang f1,8/24mm. You never need a bag.
Indeed it's great combo with 24/55/85
I'm so glad you did this comparison video! I'm going to get a Sony 35 GM soon, but when this Sigma came out, I wanted to know how they compared. I've owned Sigma lenses in the past, but usually end up sticking with native Sony lenses instead. Now that I've seen this video, I think I'll still go for the G Master, but well done to Sigma for making what looks like a great lens!
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching my videos dude!
The loss of sharpness is not due to the capabilities of the optics (what I experienced in the past, when this was a common problem for Sigma lens) only the focus motor stops in the wrong place (not in sync with the Sony bodys yet perfectly).
If you look at 5:50 -> on the Sigma lens the beard and eyebrow is much sharper than with the Sony GM, so the sharpness is not specifically (100%) in the eye.... it is in somewehere front of the eye (or in the eyebrown). Also the cap is much more blurred in the Sigma than the Sony. According to them, the whole focus line is shifted (front focused). Since it is already shifted at close point distance, if you increase the target distance (full body photo at 6:30) makes it even more visible / front focused.
This can be easily solved by Sigma with a software update within a few weeks. After that, it can be interesting for (me :) ) a new comparison!
Thanks for the video, I look forward to the next one !! :))
Ah Thanks so much for sharing! Yeah, that’s something I actually was thinking about it - it’s a pre production unit, possibly af can be more calibrated with firmware issue. The only thing was that in some of the further distance images I couldn’t actually tell where exactly focus is. But let’s see if we can have some updates from Sigma!
I hope a firmware update will solve this….If not, I have to buy the Sony to replace my 40mm 1.4 Sigma 😃!
@@levimagyar6158 haha for sure you’d be happy with GM, only your wallet will hurt 😂
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I’m saying I just watched this and still fighting myself when I know we’ll enough I want and will probably get the GM but the Art lens is so much more affordable for good quality but $500 difference is nothing in the long run…
Back focusing is not fixable with firmware updates, but you can correct it either by sending in the lens to a professional or trying to calibrate it yourself using the Sigma docking station and a distance chart (or something like that). However, general autofocus accuracy can be improved with firmware updates.
I feel like this review was biased (Sony ambassador, duh...) but still very good. My pick would be Sigma as it's exactly half the price of the GM and 98% of the performance. Also, Sigma 1.2 is about 200€ cheaper than the GM.
Well, now you’re being biased just because it’s cheaper. The sigma 1.2 weighs a full kilogram and some change, is not as sharp around the corners or in general, it’s twice the length and in the USA the 1.2 is actually 100 dollars more expensive than the GM. Also, sigma has no OSS. The focus ring you basically have to fill 180 to pull focus and it has a slight delay. You’re probably gonna argue the GM has focus breathing so before you say it, on the a7IV you do not have that problem.
@@kevinrodriguez9659 😅 This is UA-cam and I'm just some fucking random guy who bought the 35mmGM and A7IV anyway, so, don't be mad and take everything with a grain of salt.
I still think Sigma 1.4 is the reasonable choice but the heart wants what it wants.
@@kevlarnegative I wasn’t mad I just stated some points, that are true lol
@@kevinrodriguez9659 does it have that problem on the a7siii?
The sigma 1.4 is so soft compared to the GM
It needs an overhaul
I like the way Sigma added the "lock feature" to the lens...that's the only feature the 35mm GM doesn't have.
Right!? I love this too!
I have watched several reviews and read written reports. My own viewing of images suggests to me that the GM looks sharper
mostly because of its better Micro Contrast which always makes an image look sharper. This is why Zeiss older lenses
always looked sharper, they were more contrasty. You may be right that on a Sony body the GM focuses more precise.
Tack sharpness can only happen at the point of focus. Also, on a gimbal the weight difference might make a difference, and
for video I think the GM might perform better.
5:55 Sony GM shot on f/2, SIgma on f/1.4 and you are comparing them in terms of sharpness? How much money has sony paid you for this video?
Came to say the same thing.
this comparison is really underrated ! just the video most sony emount users needed!
Thanks! Appreciate your comment!
Thanks for the Review! Did help me decide. Just received my Sigma today. :-) I really wanted the aperture lock switch. Image Quality is almost the same so im fine with that. And i am not having focusing issues when the subject is further away atleast with my copy. :-)
Oh, great to hear! Ordering mine later this week I think. Please, let me know your first impressions in the next few days? Just to reassure :)
@@tvdlfilms I'll let you know! :-)
@@tvdlfilms still super happy with the Sigma, no issues at all 👍
@@faebbs Mega, thanks a lot! :)
@@tvdlfilms how is your Sigma so far ?
It’s frustrating for me to see Sigma commit resources on yet another 35mm lens for Sony. Sure, they’re also creating the lens for the L-mount system, but I think people (including myself) would be thrilled to see them announce a 70-200mm f2.8 lens instead.
I'm not. I think the Tamron 70-180mm is good enough.
@@KevinZJR good for you 👍🏽👍🏽
Pretty sure it was the other way around for this one. They most likely made this targeting L-mount as some only have $3000 lens options. And it just made sense to also add the E-mount variant since hte lens was complete.
I feel you brother! 70-200 from Sigma is the one that everyone is waiting for!
@@KevinZJR Optically it does, but in my opinion the rendering of the Tamron is terribly flat talking about colors. I'm sure sigma would do a much better job there. I'd be happy to see a sigma in the 70-200 range
For me I am using the Sigma 40mm F1.4 at the moment, but in my country Sigma 35mm F1.4 probably will under cut the price of Sony by as much as $500, I might look at one towards the end of the year or during the black Friday sale if I want one.
Good compareson, well made. I also think its frontfocus or just missfocus. I hope they can fix it in future models. You could try Manual Focus, but its like you said, on closer distance, they are pritty evem in terms of sharpness
I sold the Sigma 1.2 DG DN and got the Sony 1.4 GM instead and don't regret it - the image quality is amazing and the fact that it's lighter makes it better suited for street photography and for portraits.
Yeah, the difference in size is significant!
The slight missing of focus reminds me of the 40 Batis. At certain distances it would never be focussed on the actual eye, always the eye brow, hat or something else slightly in front of the eyes.... even when using AFC and eye AF. I switched to the Sony 35mm f1.8 and problem solved. I changed nothing in my settings or technique.... it was just the 3rd party lens wasn’t performing accurately. And that’s despite the close collaboration between Sony/Zeiss (and I believe Tamron actually manufactured the lens). So yeah, for me, it’s Sony all the way from now on. BTW, I did have a Tamron zoom and that focussed perfectly so it must vary lens to lens.
For a small compact, I like the Sigma 35m f/2 for portraits. It has better tones and rendering of bokeh than the Sony 35mm f/1.8. I find the Sony 35 f/1.8 image to look a bit flat. The benefit of the 35mm f/1.8, though, is the lack of focus breathing for video. If money wasn't a concern, obviously, I'd go with the GM.
Looking at the close up image of the subject with the green cap, glasses brought out the reality of image quality (5:55). The focal plane is different, rendering the mustach soft with the GM and sharp with the Sigma. There is no difference in quality from what I can see in the closeup. It's that the two lenses were slightly focused differently.
Just ordered the Siggy to pair with new a7R5. 🤞
Again Magic, a big bunch of great information and good comparison! Thanks!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Samyang 35mm f1.8 is my choise, its super light, AF is fast and optical quality is great... and is incredible cheap
Because the price difference in Germany is around 1000USD (!), I will go for Sigma. If I’m ever in the States or time comes, I might get the GM one day...
Good comparison. Meanwhile, there was a firmware update for the Sigma. Focus is always at the point. Sharpness is on the same level. You've to look for the differences with a magnifying glass. In practice, it does not matter. The GM has a really hard time against the Sigma.
Hello. I just got the Sigma 35mm 1.4 myself. I'm new to this. How can I get firmware update on the lens - is trough the camera body with USB-cable connected to a PC, or do I have to buy a lens station/dock?
@@bennieferinga9609 with the Sony ecosystem, you just attach the camera via USB with the lens attached to your camera.
@@ryaley1 Great, thanks for replying!
And what exactly changed with the FW update?
Hello. It seems to me that GM brings out the colors more realistically, does it have a better WB? It seems that Sigma makes them a little yellow. You know the objectives better, what do you think?
Sigma looks to have nicer bokeh and I think they have prioritised rendering over absolute sharpness. Sony has gone all out on sharpness, Interestingly the Art lenses for DSLR's also went all out on sharpness to try and offer Otus performance at a fraction of the price, but the rendering was clinical. I'd still grab the Sony because I like to get in close and do floral portraits and the Sony has 0.26x max magnification vs 0.18 for the Sigma and the lighter weight and smaller size is welcome. Still the Sigma is exceptional value. But IMO the nicest 35mm for Sony is the Voigtlander 35 f/2 APO.
Need to try that Voigtlander!
Wonderful comparison. Thanks for comparing the two sigma's. I have the 1.2 and love it but am intrigued by the 35 GM now esp for those more distance shots that surprised me! Might pickup the 35 GM later on. I guess maybe having two 35's is not the worst idea :)
Thanks! If you have any samples from your Sigma at 1.2 from further distance please share! I do wonder is that little less sharp image is the copy I had or general thing for this lens. Either way - picking up 35GM it's not a bad idea haha :D
pretty surprised by the responses here as my immediate reaction was the sigma lens rendered more 3D pop, more characterful bokeh, more contrast, and a somewhat Leica or film like look overall. Absolute sharpness goes to the GM by a bit, although that isn't something I tend to prioritize.
i really want to buy this lens but based on couple of review it really has a big problem focusing 🤕
Thanks for the test, from what I see in the video and in the sample photos the winner was the Sony 35mm f / 1.4 GM, this would be my choice and if I didn't have so much budget the option would be the Sony 35mm f / 1.8.
Thanks for sharing!
I just don't see the difference, except when you peep and then sure. But that difference definitely isn't worth $500
The cool thing (also after reading those comments here) that most of us has different needs, so it's really great to have much cheaper Sigma alternative, without much compromise if we're good with that!
In Germany even $1000! Going Sigma for sure
For budget I'd get Samyang 35 1.4. For performance, 35 1.4 GM. For video, Sony 35 1.8. This new Sigma is a little disappointing.
hmm..is the lack of sharpening a deal breaker? what if during a video shoot, the focus on someones face is a little blurry too, especially during a wedding
I don’t think those will be much visible in video. We’re looking at 42mpx files zoomed in, and if not comparing to super sharp 35GM you probably wouldn’t tell it’s not sharp. I use phrase “slightly less sharp” 😂
Great comparison. Interesting differences when it comes to sharpness. In the first front-facing test, I think the focus point is slightly different, ie. the GM has focused on the eyes and the Sigma on the frame of the glasses. This is why the label on the hat and the hair to the side of the face is sharper on the GM, while the beard hair on the same or similar focal plan of the glasses is sharper on the Sigma. With the longer distances, I would be curious to know how they compare when manually focused. A couple of years have passed since this review, so would be great to know if these focus issues have been fixed in firmware updates?
I have the sigma dg dn, just bought it a few months ago. Ive taken lots of shots at different distances and they seem consistently sharp across the board. I took some of my friend standing back maybe 5-10 feet like showed in this video, and it was tack sharp on his eye still. So although I cant confirm with real evidence if its been fixed, but on my testings ive not noticed weird sharpness/focusing issues.
@@anonym5510 Thanks for sharing your personal insights. This is good to hear. The above video was posted a year ago so maybe the issue has been fixed. I have a GM 14mm and a sigma 24-70mm. Looking for a quality prime that will be a little lighter an faster to compliment. I have always been impressed with Sigma.
@@arhon888 It pretty much stays on my camera since i bought it. It’s extremely crisp and the auto focus sticks to the eye and never loses it. Even at distance! It’s fantastic for the price, unless you you need absolute perfection then I wouldn’t spend the extra on the gm. Sigma is 99% as good in my opinion
Could you find out about the softness for further objects and was your idea correct or is the lens just soft. Watch Min.: 9:00
I’ve had the Sigma 1.2 since release but have just sold it to switch to the GM to benefit from the smaller size/weight.
Is the sigma art lens good for videos
Did you get it? What do you think of it?
I love love love the 35mm f1.8
It's a great lens! And super compact!
Pretty amazing how sharp that Sony GM is. lol. While GM is stupid expensive they are generally worth it. Good thing with the 35mm. GM, it is not that much more than the Sigma in the grand scheme of things.
Could you do a review of the sigma 40mm 1.4? :)
Did you calibrate the sigma lens to your camera body using the Sigma USB Dock prior to this comparison video?
there is no Sigma usb dock for Sony FE mount, there is one only for L mount ! I wanted to calibrate my 34 1.4 DG DN too, beause it front focuses a little on my A7 IV, but I can't ! Btw, I can confirm the Sony is much sharper at middle and long distances, I tested them both in a showroom, but got the Sigma because the price was like a third of the Sony and my budged is limited...
I’m so torn! Thinking of picking up the gm today, but so expensive!
Great comparison and tests... thanks Magic!
I think the Sigma 1.4 DG DN is a fantastic lens, especially for the official launch price, and it really looks like a BEST BUY for many photographers.
Totally agree! Great stuff coming from Sigma also pushing Sony to make better lenses!
I saw on another video how the Siggy has much more CA, green and purple. That to me is a bigger deal. Easy to correct, but when dealing with hundreds of images, its better to not have it at all. Also distortion is greater on the sigma. The GM, once again, is a monster.
Haha I love how you call Sigma - Siggy :D Yeah, if you're after best optical performance - Sony GM is a way to go, for sure.
After reading all comment my Question
how are you sir
Please tell me which one should I buy?
Samyang 35mm f/1.4 D OR OR Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG DN
video is my priority while choosing a lens auto focus and focus breathing is my first priority. I can afford sigma 35mm 1.4 dndn as well as samyang 35mm 1.4 II but can not afford sony gm 35mm
my priority is samyang because in india samyang is little bit cheaper so i spend rest amount for other accessory
please reply me as soon as possible
i want to buy very soon
so u please reply🙏🙏🙏
If I only shot studio, or anywhere but long hikes, 1.2.
Otherwise, money speaking, the Sigma. With this price difference I can buy the Sigma, + the new Samyang 135 1.8AF...
Which lens you used for the talking part?
Will it be good for making shorts? Sigma 35 mm
What lens sis u use for this VLOG?
Very well done. First time seeing your channel. I’m impressed and I will revisit for more content 👍🏾
Awesome! Thank you! Welcome aboard!
终于有对比了。谢谢
For me Sony GM 35 1.4 is the Best
I'm with you :)
Did you test more than one Sigma 1.4? I’m wondering if sample variation could account for the sharpness or lack there of at middle distance.
Nope :( Only 1 piece!
Hi. Does it makes any difference on 24 megapixels camera such A7C? Most comparisons only shots on forty+ megapixels.
They are very similar on my a7c. Performance that is. Build, the GM is noticeably better. It balances really well. The sigma feels front heavy for sure. I ultimately went with the Sigma anyway though. I like the way it renders and it was 50% cheaper bought used. I know, old comment. Figured some people are still wondering ha.
Thanks Magic. GM all the way... the dream package.
No doubt!
I'm going to get the G master
Bokeh is much better, more creamy on the Sigma here: ua-cam.com/video/t7enM6VWbmU/v-deo.html - the question is, can it really be that much better on a lens of the same aperture, or did is just focus before the subject?
Yeah, I see what you mean. I was actually trying to look closely to see if I can tell by foreground or background if the focus is somewhere else, but it's really hard to find good sharp spot there. Kind of with what I saw in @geraldundone video with close focusing, that there was no spot that you could definitely see super sharp. But also - much harder to say in a portrait like this vs studio test for sharpness.
Does it fits directly on to the camera whit out the adapter
Both of the lenses are native and mount without any adapters
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer awesome
5:48 uhh what?? am i the only one that sees the Sigma 35 1.4 being sharper here???
Omawiane szkło będzie kompatybilne pod cropa? Jak sprawa stabilizacji? Pozdrawiam
Jak najbardziej szkło będzie kompatybilne pod cropa, aczkolwiek nie jest zaprojektowane z myślą o aparatach APS-C (do aps-c obiektywy mogą być dużo mniejsze). W sony jest ten sam bagnet dla zarówno APS-C, jak i FF, więc akurat obiektywy pod FF można spokojnie używać na APS-C, gorzej w drugą stronę. Polecam materiał, którzy przygotowywałem dla sklepu @cyfrowe.pl ua-cam.com/video/r1loPe6xFZI/v-deo.html . Jeśli chodzi o stabilizację to jest ona w body.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Dzięki!
Call me JJ, but I like the flairs.
Ja używam od 2 lat Sigmy 35art 1.4 HSM i jestem mega zadowolony z obrazka. Jedynie nie podoba mi się wyważenie szkła bo najzwyczajniej ciągnie do przodu.
Czas na upgrade?
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer szczerze po wstępnych informacjach nie czuję aby była potrzeba ;) Jeśli już to na GM ale póki co obecna 35 mi wystarcza w 99% :)
Sony looks sharper, the Sigma colors look better IMO.
Sold my 35mm GM..for the Sigma 35mm f1.2..and couldn't be happier.. a far shaper lens.
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why you need to wear a cap all the time? The only thing missing is the propeller
I have a 🧢 with propeller too! It’s awesome
Hlw , bRo
Hi bRo!
szkoda, że nie po POlsku :(
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I like your channel but why your friend is in the mask. Was it extra money for promoting a pandemic? This is ridiculous.
Wearing a mask outdoors? Your virtue signalling is awesome!!!
That's not even what virtue signaling means. Your nonsense point is wrong on two counts. Awesome.