I'm guessing warp grinders are so trash they aren't even worth mentioning. And from what I've gathered about this is that Skaven always need to fear cavalry.
WOOO! Was looking forward to these for when I finally stop being a pansy and start playing multiplayer. Hoping to hop into the new player tournaments sometime in the indeterminate future.
you'd rather have that stormvermin unit in the frontline where it can give the artillery more time to shoot, spears + mutant rat ogres nearby is enough to punish any cav that charges in and, for getting shot at, slaves are about as good as stormvermin
Its too much money for defending a single artillery piece. Your Frontline would likely just collapse and then it doesn't matter how well defended the arty piece is because it cant fight if it's surrounded.
For those who don't know, this is a long running joke on the channel about how Human Boy can't stand people having elite halberds sitting in their back line
@@olegdmitriev2810 Midgrade spears are definitely not useless, especially when he spent half the time saying how vulnerable to cav Skaven are Guess I just disagree that they’re an almost-never take, they do tremendously well at surprising cav that thinks they’re getting a charge on unguarded missile teams. 🤷🏼♂️
@@SonofKiernan I think if you're being surprised by a unit of triads when charging unguarded weapons team it's more of a skill/micro issue. My main point was that they trade off stats for stalk and speed, which makes them less effective at fighting cav and supporting your front line. Stat wise, they aren't that much better than clanrats with spears and shields, and you can bring 2 of those for the price of an eshin triad. You'll probably be better off bringing 2 clanrats than a triads since they functionally fill the same role, or upgrade to a storm vermin halberd, which performs the same role but a lot better.
@@SonofKiernan If the triads got changed to a role like pig back riders that might change things, but even then they would probably still cost extra for stall which you won't need
Tretch has no way to heal and his damage resistance is conditional. He doesn't provide a ton of value on his own. Having a big, fast, regenerating monster running around that is both hard to kill and capable of doing some damage is a much better investment.
The problem with Tretch is that he doesn't divide the enemy's attention like other melee lords: they know they can just ignore him and target the caster instead, so they will, and thus you're down 600+ gold. Compare that to Snikch: Stalk means they can't snipe him until they find him, and if they want to goon squad your caster instead, the squad has to risk Snikch appearing and wrecking someone.
Doesn't need a guest for the Skaven guide... hurtful
Solid guide though
I'm guessing warp grinders are so trash they aren't even worth mentioning. And from what I've gathered about this is that Skaven always need to fear cavalry.
Haha you're right I skipped over them. Yes they are incredibly hard to use in a reasonable game that is moving fast
@@austinkoepp1409 Wrong account silly XD
Can’t wait for all these videos!
WOOO! Was looking forward to these for when I finally stop being a pansy and start playing multiplayer. Hoping to hop into the new player tournaments sometime in the indeterminate future.
Can't wait for the vampire counts
Amazing guide
Great guide... Looking forward to the others.
Big hype, for this series. Nurgle time? :D
I want to see you play skaven more. I don’t think I’ve seen any videos of you carrying the skaven banner for the past month or so.
But wouldn't your artillery last even longer if you put your stormvermin halberds on top of the crew? 🙂
I would assume its too much value just sitting back
you'd rather have that stormvermin unit in the frontline where it can give the artillery more time to shoot, spears + mutant rat ogres nearby is enough to punish any cav that charges in and, for getting shot at, slaves are about as good as stormvermin
Its too much money for defending a single artillery piece. Your Frontline would likely just collapse and then it doesn't matter how well defended the arty piece is because it cant fight if it's surrounded.
For those who don't know, this is a long running joke on the channel about how Human Boy can't stand people having elite halberds sitting in their back line
Take Skrolk - Win by default by being cool AF.
Eshin triads - how do you feel about them in dom? Turin seems to use them to great effect
BTW no jezzails in any build. I find that recently it's harder to make them work. When would you use them?
when fate of bjuna isnt available to the roster in question, usually grand cathay if you dont rush. Dwarfs
Human Boy are you forgetting that Eshin Triads have Stalk? 👀
he specifically talked about that
Stalk is useless when the until itself is useless lol
@@olegdmitriev2810 Midgrade spears are definitely not useless, especially when he spent half the time saying how vulnerable to cav Skaven are
Guess I just disagree that they’re an almost-never take, they do tremendously well at surprising cav that thinks they’re getting a charge on unguarded missile teams. 🤷🏼♂️
@@SonofKiernan I think if you're being surprised by a unit of triads when charging unguarded weapons team it's more of a skill/micro issue. My main point was that they trade off stats for stalk and speed, which makes them less effective at fighting cav and supporting your front line. Stat wise, they aren't that much better than clanrats with spears and shields, and you can bring 2 of those for the price of an eshin triad. You'll probably be better off bringing 2 clanrats than a triads since they functionally fill the same role, or upgrade to a storm vermin halberd, which performs the same role but a lot better.
@@SonofKiernan If the triads got changed to a role like pig back riders that might change things, but even then they would probably still cost extra for stall which you won't need
You forgot Empire by Lord snipe😜
But if you are so worried about your lord dying why don't you just pick Tretch ? That's his one, and only, speciallity.
He’s still vulnerable to magic
Tretch has no way to heal and his damage resistance is conditional. He doesn't provide a ton of value on his own. Having a big, fast, regenerating monster running around that is both hard to kill and capable of doing some damage is a much better investment.
The problem with Tretch is that he doesn't divide the enemy's attention like other melee lords: they know they can just ignore him and target the caster instead, so they will, and thus you're down 600+ gold.
Compare that to Snikch: Stalk means they can't snipe him until they find him, and if they want to goon squad your caster instead, the squad has to risk Snikch appearing and wrecking someone.