I wish Eliot Coleman much blessings and a life up to 100 like his mentor Scott Nearing. We may not realize it now but the guy is a treasure to be realized for centuries to come. Wish he could write a new book or updated one. THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING VIDEOS WITH ELIOT!
Another highly insightful master class, in my opinion, of this Pulitzer Prize quality series. It's an inspiring privilege to hear these leaders of true sustainable, organic agriculture and healthy food culture, wax eloquent on an extensive range of topics with facts, joy and vision. Thank you Real Organic Project
@@realorganicproject6836 You are most welcome to share this sentiment any place that you deem will help to advance our real organic movement. I've particularly enjoyed these conversations between diverse movement leaders; notably the 2021 Symposium conversations between Leah Penniman and Alice Waters, and between Real Organic rancher Glen Elzinga and Dan Barber. Please, keep them coming.
So many things! Thank you very much for all the educating you do, you are both mentors to me through your books. I think the discussion needed to go more in depth into what the differences are between conventional no-till and restorative agriculture of the organic intensive farming like those techniques being demonstrated by JM Fortier, Richard Perkins, Joel Salatin, and even Clara Coleman. Many of these farms are organic and because of their methods also restorative agriculture. If this is for the public ,then they are being fed (pun intended) the line that only a vegan diet is environmentally responsible and this includes all the fake meats replete with chemicals and artificial flavours. They are being told that having any animals on a farm is evil and no one is feeding them information about the soil food web, and how literally everything farms for nutrients by farming other life forms and that without animals and consumption of animals (be it bacteria or eggs from a chicken or even meat) that we break down our ecology and thus ourselves. Keep up the good work!
Eliot, the reason "nobody is noticing" the food conditions like air quality or water quality isn't that we're not noticing it, it's that rich people aren't effected by it, thus nothing gets done to fix it. If rich people breathe poor air, legislation "magically" gets passed.
I wonder when the study by the usda on organic farming put more carbon in the soil than not I’ll was published. My understanding is fungi is what is holding the majority of the carbon in the soil. If we are tilling is that not removing the fungi? Dan at bio nutrient talks about he only rolls the first 1-2 inch of soil for his market garden. Which would reduce the damage but I’m sure some of those crops don’t even has association with mycorrhizal fungi. Wonderful discussion. 💭
I like the comment” good organic is regenerative”. That’s where the issue comes into play. Organic in water is not regenerating soil, but is considered organic.
I have been talking about the way we eat on social media and how it is making us sick. And how Covid would not have been so devastating if we were a healthier people. I have had many agree but I have also gotten a good deal of opposition. People don’t want to admit what they are doing is what is making them fat and sick. We want our cake and eat it too again again and again. We have to start eating real food. And growing real food.
Well said. It's absurd to think the chemical industry a.k.a industrial farming can deposit a billioin pounds of synthetic chemiclas annually on our farmlands and crops and pretend there's no adverse impacts. It makes ya laugh until you cry.
I do agree that no-till is too dependent on the input of large amounts of compost, especially when starting out. Even on a small scale it's hard to make enough of your own compost without bringing it in from elsewhere. And often, if you're buying compost, you don't always know what's really in it or how it was made. I don't see how it would be possible to do this on a large scale without industrial inputs of "compost" and that "compost" would likely be of very questionable quality.
I think Eliots description of regen ag farmers denying their former degrading practices is bullshit. From what I have seen, all regen farmers have stated they need to ditch the chemicals and the cultivation
I wish Eliot Coleman much blessings and a life up to 100 like his mentor Scott Nearing. We may not realize it now but the guy is a treasure to be realized for centuries to come. Wish he could write a new book or updated one. THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING VIDEOS WITH ELIOT!
A great discussion with two individuals for whom I have a lot of respect. Much appreciated.
So much truth, hope people will open their eyes and listen to nature
Another highly insightful master class, in my opinion, of this Pulitzer Prize quality series. It's an inspiring privilege to hear these leaders of true sustainable, organic agriculture and healthy food culture, wax eloquent on an extensive range of topics with facts, joy and vision. Thank you Real Organic Project
Thank you Russell! Can we share that quote sometime to our social media - what a great warm fuzzy feeling it gave us!!!
@@realorganicproject6836 You are most welcome to share this sentiment any place that you deem will help to advance our real organic movement. I've particularly enjoyed these conversations between diverse movement leaders; notably the 2021 Symposium conversations between Leah Penniman and Alice Waters, and between Real Organic rancher Glen Elzinga and Dan Barber. Please, keep them coming.
@@realorganicproject6836 Absolutely, I'll feel honored.
As a organic grower, I believe we need a movement by the people to eat better to conquer deaths from covid and other problems not government control.
This is a very positive narrative! Merci 😊
Mother nature and the laws of the universe will bring balance, everything impure will die out
So many things! Thank you very much for all the educating you do, you are both mentors to me through your books.
I think the discussion needed to go more in depth into what the differences are between conventional no-till and restorative agriculture of the organic intensive farming like those techniques being demonstrated by JM Fortier, Richard Perkins, Joel Salatin, and even Clara Coleman. Many of these farms are organic and because of their methods also restorative agriculture. If this is for the public ,then they are being fed (pun intended) the line that only a vegan diet is environmentally responsible and this includes all the fake meats replete with chemicals and artificial flavours. They are being told that having any animals on a farm is evil and no one is feeding them information about the soil food web, and how literally everything farms for nutrients by farming other life forms and that without animals and consumption of animals (be it bacteria or eggs from a chicken or even meat) that we break down our ecology and thus ourselves.
Keep up the good work!
I feel like you rushed through Organic versus regenerative,Just remember I’m trying to totally understand youAnd I really love how positive Dan is
Thanks, Patricia. We hear you! This is a topic that we are likely to revisit and present thoroughly and slowly.
Excellent narrative on Organic vs. Regenerative - 40 minutes in.
Eliot, the reason "nobody is noticing" the food conditions like air quality or water quality isn't that we're not noticing it, it's that rich people aren't effected by it, thus nothing gets done to fix it. If rich people breathe poor air, legislation "magically" gets passed.
Just fantastic! Thank you.
I wonder when the study by the usda on organic farming put more carbon in the soil than not I’ll was published.
My understanding is fungi is what is holding the majority of the carbon in the soil.
If we are tilling is that not removing the fungi? Dan at bio nutrient talks about he only rolls the first 1-2 inch of soil for his market garden. Which would reduce the damage but I’m sure some of those crops don’t even has association with mycorrhizal fungi.
Wonderful discussion. 💭
I like the comment” good organic is regenerative”. That’s where the issue comes into play. Organic in water is not regenerating soil, but is considered organic.
Eliot doesn't support Hydroponics
I have been talking about the way we eat on social media and how it is making us sick. And how Covid would not have been so devastating if we were a healthier people. I have had many agree but I have also gotten a good deal of opposition. People don’t want to admit what they are doing is what is making them fat and sick. We want our cake and eat it too again again and again. We have to start eating real food. And growing real food.
Well said. It's absurd to think the chemical industry a.k.a industrial farming can deposit a billioin pounds of synthetic chemiclas annually on our farmlands and crops and pretend there's no adverse impacts. It makes ya laugh until you cry.
Minute 40 is the best
I do agree that no-till is too dependent on the input of large amounts of compost, especially when starting out. Even on a small scale it's hard to make enough of your own compost without bringing it in from elsewhere. And often, if you're buying compost, you don't always know what's really in it or how it was made. I don't see how it would be possible to do this on a large scale without industrial inputs of "compost" and that "compost" would likely be of very questionable quality.
It's certainly way more complicated than it seems! Thank you for your insight!
You don't need large amounts of compost if you utilize animal integration. If you don't have animal integration, then you simply use compost teas.
Over grow the system, Market gardens in every settlement
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I think Eliots description of regen ag farmers denying their former degrading practices is bullshit. From what I have seen, all regen farmers have stated they need to ditch the chemicals and the cultivation