It was obvious that the parents were afraid of ther son, and that they could not control or restrain him. It was just as obvious that medical personnel could do noting for him until he was restrained and subdued. He was a threat to everyone. I don`t know how these officers deal with all of these difficult issues as well as the constant and unwarranted criticism by the public.
I don't think some people realize we're all people here. How do YOU think we are supposed to deal with the unknown mentally/emotionally ill people. But the moment one becomes a threat to someone else. Decisions have to be made in splits of seconds, and you thinking about it, is WAY TO LONG. Law is a hard responsibility. Because it's about love, law and all you people!
I feel like this is an unfortunate event. The situation escalated quickly, officers job is to contain the situation from getting any worse. They have to think of the safety of the victim, the victim's family and themselves. Using a taser is the least amount of necessary force and take control of the situation quickly. I did not see a knee on the neck, once he was detained, there was no officers putting their weight on his body. They where as professional as they could have been, I am not a cop and don't think I could have done anything different. They tried several de-escalation techniques for over 10 minutes before the taser was deployed. According to the Autopsy report, tasing him alone was not what single handedly killed the man, there was other contributing factors.
What exactly did the parents want when they called 911? The mother sounds unsure herself. If you don't think he's a physical threat to you, DO NOT call the police; don't call for EMT or fire either because their job is not to deal with people who don't want to be helped. Only thing officers could have done better was roll him on his side and check breathing as soon as they had him secure, so that they could begin chest compressions before medics arrive on scene.
Also, I know most police forces would not have allowed the individual to go into adjacent rooms where they loose direct line of site as they would think the individual was arming themselves. These police seemed to be aware that this was a mental health issue and did not use more force to prevent the man from going out of view. I think the police did act according to current policy in this situation but as I stated in an earlier comment, the police need another way to put people under control besides tasing.
@@joemyers8289 You sound like a cop. How about waiting until paramedics arrived before entering the home? How about not tazing him in his own home as everyone with any common sense knows it’s a lie when the officer says he was being “rushed”. So what if he was being “rushed” he was naked. Where was he hiding a weapon under his dick? So what If a cop is being “rushed” if he can’t hold his own in a brawl he needs to go run to the corner and wait for real men to handle it for him. How about not cuffing him with double cuffs face down? How about listening to him when he said with his dying breath he couldn’t breathe? How about sitting him up after cuffing him so he could breathe? You need me to go on or do feel you feel stupid enough yet?
When their like this there's no talking them down! I used to work in the jail here and in the suicide block they'd be so strong they could break the bed. Now mind you the bed in Marion County are made out of metal and are bolted to the wall. When you have someone in a psychotic episode they have this inhuman strength to rip a bed from the wall. Now imagine if you're a patrol officer trying to subdue that? You might as well try to fight a tiger at the zoo!
As more results are still to come, based solely on this video, it appears officers were professional and understanding. I’m not sure what else they would be expected to do at that point. Seems each officers’ actions were well within the boundaries of patience and expectation. I think this video shows their multiple attempts to de-escalate the situation and effort for non-lethal measures more than anything. It’s sad this gentleman’s life ended, he was clearly already having an extended and severe medical episode. However, I think its very evident, these officers did an exceptional job, and I’m glad footage like this exists.
Naturally I would expect the family to file suit, as with all deaths in similar circumstance, however I think that’s almost just standard practice. It shouldn’t readily say that it’s believed the officers did anything wrong.
@Utube Fknsucks ⬅ What a joke!! I just read your handle and find so much irony in it!! UA-cam sucks so much that you watch the videos, invest in them enough to make a personal comment on a persons video and then take the time to give your unneeded and unwanted opinion to someone who views things differently from you?? Please tell me where I misread or misjudged you!!
@@MsMeece-gk2em it all comes down to money. Easy way for them to get money. How in the world when you lose someone you love so much that you can even think of a lawsuit 1-3 months after their death.
She said he doesn’t do drugs nor has he been diagnosed with any type of mental illness this type of psychosis is certainly chemically induced hes naked and sweating this is clearly an adverse reaction to whatever he took or whatever was given to him or came in contact with his body was overheating. This is sad to see.
It looks like a tragic situation... As a Retired Sheriff- I feel like these officers did a fine job. It appears as though his size, cardiovascular disease, and state of excited delirium most likely caused his death. IEMS was staging and came inside after 3 minutes. I find it hard to believe that positional asphyxiation played a role in this... The Coroner's cause of death almost seems politically motivated.
The coroner determined it was homicide. The results of an autopsy for Whitfield determined his death was a homicide and further ruled he died from heart failure while under law enforcement restraint.
Molecular studies of the brain of autopsy victims who died in states of excited delirium reveal a loss of dopamine transporter function as a possible trigger of a lethal cascade of neural activities that progress to asphyxia and sudden cardiac arrest. Crazy.
Shrooms peyote other psycodelic lsd etc it sounds like and looks like a bad trip with dude completly loosing it dont do what ya cant handle and know be prepared for all possibilitys have some understanding partners around
God there are some stupid comments here. No wonder things are the way they are with all these uneducated people with their better ways to deal with psychosis which can become very very dangerous.
Unbelievable professionalism! Those Officers did everything perfect. That family is shameful for suing. How about the results of toxicology? I looked and could not find it online. Is transparency not politically convenient?
That does not matter...they could have knocked him out as they do with girls and non violent suspects...that is what lifeguard do when someone is drowning...knock the person out so they can help the person and help themselves....
@@luiscruz8377 What kind of lifeguard training did you get where they taught you to knock out a struggling person in the water? MMA/lifeguard training?
Police didn't have him in the recovery position immediately after he was cuffed. That's a failure. People under stress and or drugs can struggle themselves to death. It happens all the time.
Why do they care? The department will investigate itself and find no wrong doing, the DA will claim there isn’t enough evidence so criminal charges won’t be pursued and the cops will hide behind qualified immunity, which is a doctrine that Stalin, Hitler and Tito might implement
The police should stop taking these calls 100%. Or make them sign something at the door saying your loved one could get hurt if they try to hurt us or you.
I actually did not like the attitude of the 911 operator.. He seemed to be in slow motion. He could hear that there was a "loud situation" going on, but it seemed forever to get police on their way. He didn't have any empathy for the mother going through a dramatic situation. I also thought that 911 operators stayed on the line until police arrive????
Appears to me, not actually being there but seeing other instances, that he was experiencing meth induced excited delirium. When finally cuffed after fighting off any number of cops, they just withdraw and give up. Sad. I'd like to know the update on the tox test.
How can you possibly state that? Police have 0 training in mental health. What? You think a tin badge is equivalent to a PhD, masters, Batchelor, or even an associate? Most cops barely passed high school and have less than 6 months of training where the majority is weapons, vehicles, and tactics. They are not heros by association of a badge
@@brad3706 Lol trigger much? There’s not a doctor on this planet who is brave enough to walk in there and handle that any differently. Nor are you. Good day.
You can't "raise your kids right" out of a mental health crisis. A crisis like that is a medical emergency, not "family bs". What you just said was deeply ignorant.
OMG OMG OMG 😳😭😭😭😢 I'm so saddened to hear this and see this, but the Fact that it's NOTICABLY OBVIOUS THAT A LOT OF FOOTAGE and CONVERSATION IS MISSING, DUE TO THE NARRATIVE MAKES IT MORE DISTURBING, HOWEVER IT IS DEFINITELY NOTED THAT WE THE VIEWERS CAN STILL HEAR THAT THE DISPATCHER REQUESTED MENTAL HELP FOR HIM AND WE CAN HEAR HIM SCREAMING OUT FIRE SO MANY TIMES, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS NOT A FIRE, (INTENDING THAT HE NEEDED MENTAL HELP NOT, TASEING) THE FACT THAT HE GETS TASED AND YELLS OK AND SORRY FOR ABOUT 3-4 TIMES WAS NON JUSTICE FOR THEM TO TASE HIM AGAIN WHEN THEY COULD'VE SIMPLY PUT THE CUFFS ON HIM AT THAT POINT FOR THAT MATTER. AFTER THE SECOND TASING THEY VISUALLY HAD HIS ROBE OVER HIS HEAD WHILE 😭😭😭😢HE YELLED OUT ALERTING THEM THAT HE CAN'T BREATH MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE GOING SILENT. AT ONE POINT YOU'D THINK THAT THE OFFICER'S WOULD NOTICE THAT HE'S NOT RESPONDING, ESPECIALLY THE OFFICER THAT HAD HIM UNDER HIS ARMS FOR SUPPOSEDLY STRAINING PURPOSES, SO LET'S CHECK ON HIM. THIS IS INJUSTICE AND I CRIED HARD BECAUSE I MYSELF HAVE A CHILD THAT IS 9 YEARS OLD WHO IS EPILEPTIC AND ADHD, SO I'M WORRIED THAT MY SON MAY FACE THE SAME OBVIOUS FATE ONE DAY. I DEEPLY AND SINCERELY PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AS WELL, YET FEEL AS THOUGH MORE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE'VE ALREADY WITNESSED A TRAGIC "I Can't Breath" Situation ALMOST 2 -3 YEARS AGO, ALTHOUGH IT WAS IN PUBLIC. WHY WERE THE POLICE THERE TO PUT HIM DOWN INSTEAD OF THE MENTAL REQUEST. THIS HAS TO STOP. WHEN WILL THE ACTUAL CHANGE COME....
Are you even serious right now?!?! I'm ALL FOR JUSTICE AND LOATHE IMPROPER POLICE BEHAVIOR, but these cops were patient and treated this man with respect until he became a physical threat to not only them but his family as well!! To hear the father yelling at his son to calm down, well after he was tased and restrained, should tell you something!! What form or method would you have used? This man was clearly having a manic episode of some sort and his size and adrenaline alone was too much for the officers. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say because they didn't approach him and try to apprehend him with only their hands, they saved a huge struggle that could have turned very violent! But please don't be "that person" who is bringing up the i-can't-breathe... This situation was NOTHING like George Floyd and he was no where close to being treated the horrible way George Floyd was treated!! These officers acted in no way nor displayed any of the egregious behavior like those P.O.S's in MN did!! You are entitled to your own opinion, but frankly, it was too much!!
Exactly, he said he can't breathe multiple times until he fell silent and the officer still had him under his arms, yet Not one time did he notice that this man was no longer moving nor responding. THIS IS STR8 BS.
Also why was the robe over his head to begin with, especially when he yelled out multiple times that he Can't breath. This was intentional death in our face
Edited by IMPD..hmmm and it is clear that they are continuing to press down on him for a long time once he is down..you can see he is unresponsive when he is down..
Its pretty obvious they killed him. They guy kept saying he cant breath, and it slowly got winded, then nothing. It doesnt take a genius to see that. These guys should be fired for lack of common sense. They took him down fine. But failed once on the floor. Someone could have had 3 pairs of cuffs linked and ready. You can call it hindsight, but these cops have done this job for a while. They should already know better. It seems to me these cops didnt try for the man at all. No one spoke up.
I don’t understand why people can’t just phone an ambulance, instead of calling the police they are not trained to deal with situations like this , it is also disturbing that knowing they are not trained to deal with unfortunate cases like this , they continue to interfere with these cases which always seem to have the same unfortunate ending , the citizen inevitably loses his life , to me this has to change , police are simply not trained , nor do they possess the necessary duty of care , nor do they have the caring patience to deal with these unfortunate people , that are having MEDICAL issues mental or otherwise, in short you don’t ask a guy who works in an office to go and fix a broken water pipe under the road , it’s just common dog fuck for gods sake ✌️✊🏴
And the EMTs would have done what in this scenario without the police? I work as a clinician on a mobile crisis team and I can tell you there is about a 0% chance we're responding to this call/presentation without the police
The Police officers were untrained for this case. Sad as it maybe, I did hear Herman say he could not breath. I too agree with Steve Silvers, that some type of medicine dart be use to at least rest them. But, unfortunately, the IMPD killed this young man. Inexperienced Policed officers. My condolences to the family.
I think that police forces should be trained on how to shoot people with a sleepy dart like they do with large animals before vets treat them. A tazer is considered use of force and can cause the heart to stop in some cases albeit rare.
Cpr no good if a brain bleed or other psychotic break you just gonna die most times not just psychotic break must have had a bleed somewhere maybe cancer of brain
October 2019 police held me in a mobile home for 14 hours as they teargas and OC and CS gases me with multiple tri caster riot gas 40 mm bunker rounds flash bangs
How many cops were there, and they couldn't go hands on? This is why, I want to go back to EMS. That dude was scared, and he had every reason to be, as soon as he stopped struggling, was when he died. Thoughts and prayers go out to his loved ones. RiP
It was obvious that the parents were afraid of ther son, and that they could not control or restrain him. It was just as obvious that medical personnel could do noting for him until he was restrained and subdued. He was a threat to everyone. I don`t know how these officers deal with all of these difficult issues as well as the constant and unwarranted criticism by the public.
The best observation I've heard!
I don't think some people realize we're all people here. How do YOU think we are supposed to deal with the unknown mentally/emotionally ill people. But the moment one becomes a threat to someone else. Decisions have to be made in splits of seconds, and you thinking about it, is WAY TO LONG. Law is a hard responsibility. Because it's about love, law and all you people!
I feel like this is an unfortunate event. The situation escalated quickly, officers job is to contain the situation from getting any worse. They have to think of the safety of the victim, the victim's family and themselves. Using a taser is the least amount of necessary force and take control of the situation quickly. I did not see a knee on the neck, once he was detained, there was no officers putting their weight on his body. They where as professional as they could have been, I am not a cop and don't think I could have done anything different. They tried several de-escalation techniques for over 10 minutes before the taser was deployed. According to the Autopsy report, tasing him alone was not what single handedly killed the man, there was other contributing factors.
What exactly did the parents want when they called 911? The mother sounds unsure herself. If you don't think he's a physical threat to you, DO NOT call the police; don't call for EMT or fire either because their job is not to deal with people who don't want to be helped. Only thing officers could have done better was roll him on his side and check breathing as soon as they had him secure, so that they could begin chest compressions before medics arrive on scene.
There isn't a situation that's improved by calling 911. The police show, no matter which agency is requested and escalate every encounter.
Someone should have turned on the lights in the home.
Ya you’d think if you call 911 for help you might do that for them…. But immediately while answering the door they are rude so not suprised
Spice ? Just stared kinda sounds like he just found it
It's an unfortunate situation.
Also, I know most police forces would not have allowed the individual to go into adjacent rooms where they loose direct line of site as they would think the individual was arming themselves. These police seemed to be aware that this was a mental health issue and did not use more force to prevent the man from going out of view. I think the police did act according to current policy in this situation but as I stated in an earlier comment, the police need another way to put people under control besides tasing.
Why don`t you volunteer to go deal with these [people and show police how it ought to be done?
So how do you propose they do this, sounds like you are a specialist in this field. The only other way I know is using a Glock.
@@joemyers8289 You sound like a cop. How about waiting until paramedics arrived before entering the home? How about not tazing him in his own home as everyone with any common sense knows it’s a lie when the officer says he was being “rushed”. So what if he was being “rushed” he was naked. Where was he hiding a weapon under his dick? So what If a cop is being “rushed” if he can’t hold his own in a brawl he needs to go run to the corner and wait for real men to handle it for him. How about not cuffing him with double cuffs face down? How about listening to him when he said with his dying breath he couldn’t breathe? How about sitting him up after cuffing him so he could breathe? You need me to go on or do feel you feel stupid enough yet?
at 6:05 when he is staring right at the officers with that blank stare.
When their like this there's no talking them down! I used to work in the jail here and in the suicide block they'd be so strong they could break the bed. Now mind you the bed in Marion County are made out of metal and are bolted to the wall. When you have someone in a psychotic episode they have this inhuman strength to rip a bed from the wall. Now imagine if you're a patrol officer trying to subdue that? You might as well try to fight a tiger at the zoo!
Excited delirium?
As more results are still to come, based solely on this video, it appears officers were professional and understanding. I’m not sure what else they would be expected to do at that point. Seems each officers’ actions were well within the boundaries of patience and expectation. I think this video shows their multiple attempts to de-escalate the situation and effort for non-lethal measures more than anything. It’s sad this gentleman’s life ended, he was clearly already having an extended and severe medical episode. However, I think its very evident, these officers did an exceptional job, and I’m glad footage like this exists.
Naturally I would expect the family to file suit, as with all deaths in similar circumstance, however I think that’s almost just standard practice. It shouldn’t readily say that it’s believed the officers did anything wrong.
There is one thing they could have done....NOT KILL HIM...
@Utube Fknsucks ⬅ What a joke!! I just read your handle and find so much irony in it!! UA-cam sucks so much that you watch the videos, invest in them enough to make a personal comment on a persons video and then take the time to give your unneeded and unwanted opinion to someone who views things differently from you?? Please tell me where I misread or misjudged you!!
The taser use was wholly unnecessary. He was scared. He wasn't attacking anyone. He was trying to get away.
@@MsMeece-gk2em it all comes down to money. Easy way for them to get money. How in the world when you lose someone you love so much that you can even think of a lawsuit 1-3 months after their death.
She said he doesn’t do drugs nor has he been diagnosed with any type of mental illness this type of psychosis is certainly chemically induced hes naked and sweating this is clearly an adverse reaction to whatever he took or whatever was given to him or came in contact with his body was overheating. This is sad to see.
It looks like a tragic situation... As a Retired Sheriff- I feel like these officers did a fine job. It appears as though his size, cardiovascular disease, and state of excited delirium most likely caused his death. IEMS was staging and came inside after 3 minutes. I find it hard to believe that positional asphyxiation played a role in this... The Coroner's cause of death almost seems politically motivated.
wonder what the autopsy showed im thinking a burst of an anurisum
The coroner determined it was homicide. The results of an autopsy for Whitfield determined his death was a homicide and further ruled he died from heart failure while under law enforcement restraint.
Classic case of exited delirium.
Molecular studies of the brain of autopsy victims who died in states of excited delirium reveal a loss of dopamine transporter function as a possible trigger of a lethal cascade of neural activities that progress to asphyxia and sudden cardiac arrest.
Crazy.
Shrooms peyote other psycodelic lsd etc it sounds like and looks like a bad trip with dude completly loosing it dont do what ya cant handle and know be prepared for all possibilitys have some understanding partners around
Cuffs are a form of torture dont believe me get a pair put on for 30 min by a pissed off cop
hey chuck get back in your car....this isn't what we pay you for...lol .🤣
Cuffs aren’t meant to be comfortable. Here’s a logical, smart idea…don’t do something stupid to put yourself in them
Fentnal ?
God there are some stupid comments here. No wonder things are the way they are with all these uneducated people with their better ways to deal with psychosis which can become very very dangerous.
Unbelievable professionalism! Those Officers did everything perfect. That family is shameful for suing. How about the results of toxicology? I looked and could not find it online. Is transparency not politically convenient?
The autopsy report which should include the results of toxicology is not available yet.
That does not matter...they could have knocked him out as they do with girls and non violent suspects...that is what lifeguard do when someone is drowning...knock the person out so they can help the person and help themselves....
Yes. Suffocating a man to death is "perfect". Smfh
@@luiscruz8377 What kind of lifeguard training did you get where they taught you to knock out a struggling person in the water? MMA/lifeguard training?
This man also had hypertensive cardiovascular disease, morbidly obese, and the toxicology report said he had marijuana in his system.
Police didn't have him in the recovery position immediately after he was cuffed. That's a failure. People under stress and or drugs can struggle themselves to death. It happens all the time.
Why do they care? The department will investigate itself and find no wrong doing, the DA will claim there isn’t enough evidence so criminal charges won’t be pursued and the cops will hide behind qualified immunity, which is a doctrine that Stalin, Hitler and Tito might implement
Greta job officers
The police should stop taking these calls 100%. Or make them sign something at the door saying your loved one could get hurt if they try to hurt us or you.
I actually did not like the attitude of the 911 operator.. He seemed to be in slow motion. He could hear that there was a "loud situation" going on, but it seemed forever to get police on their way. He didn't have any empathy for the mother going through a dramatic situation. I also thought that 911 operators stayed on the line until police arrive????
He was obviously new.
Ummm, lots of video missing here. The narrative by the cop is precious too.
Lots of video where Herman is just not saying anything or responding... Those parts were cut out.
Appears to me, not actually being there but seeing other instances, that he was experiencing meth induced excited delirium. When finally cuffed after fighting off any number of cops, they just withdraw and give up. Sad. I'd like to know the update on the tox test.
Cops. did a great job. Unfortunate ending.
How can you possibly state that? Police have 0 training in mental health. What? You think a tin badge is equivalent to a PhD, masters, Batchelor, or even an associate? Most cops barely passed high school and have less than 6 months of training where the majority is weapons, vehicles, and tactics. They are not heros by association of a badge
@@brad3706
Lol trigger much? There’s not a doctor on this planet who is brave enough to walk in there and handle that any differently. Nor are you. Good day.
@@superserial1 wrong. Triggered much?
Proof that force is the only option they know. Stop calling them for help.. they cannot help you..
What video do you watch? 👁️👁️
So sick and tired of people wanting the police to handle their family BS for them. Raise your kids right and take responsibility for them.
You can't "raise your kids right" out of a mental health crisis. A crisis like that is a medical emergency, not "family bs". What you just said was deeply ignorant.
If you can't... You need to place them somewhere that can.
OMG OMG OMG 😳😭😭😭😢 I'm so saddened to hear this and see this, but the Fact that it's NOTICABLY OBVIOUS THAT A LOT OF FOOTAGE and CONVERSATION IS MISSING, DUE TO THE NARRATIVE MAKES IT MORE DISTURBING, HOWEVER IT IS DEFINITELY NOTED THAT WE THE VIEWERS CAN STILL HEAR THAT THE DISPATCHER REQUESTED MENTAL HELP FOR HIM AND WE CAN HEAR HIM SCREAMING OUT FIRE SO MANY TIMES, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS NOT A FIRE, (INTENDING THAT HE NEEDED MENTAL HELP NOT, TASEING) THE FACT THAT HE GETS TASED AND YELLS OK AND SORRY FOR ABOUT 3-4 TIMES WAS NON JUSTICE FOR THEM TO TASE HIM AGAIN WHEN THEY COULD'VE SIMPLY PUT THE CUFFS ON HIM AT THAT POINT FOR THAT MATTER. AFTER THE SECOND TASING THEY VISUALLY HAD HIS ROBE OVER HIS HEAD WHILE 😭😭😭😢HE YELLED OUT ALERTING THEM THAT HE CAN'T BREATH MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE GOING SILENT. AT ONE POINT YOU'D THINK THAT THE OFFICER'S WOULD NOTICE THAT HE'S NOT RESPONDING, ESPECIALLY THE OFFICER THAT HAD HIM UNDER HIS ARMS FOR SUPPOSEDLY STRAINING PURPOSES, SO LET'S CHECK ON HIM. THIS IS INJUSTICE AND I CRIED HARD BECAUSE I MYSELF HAVE A CHILD THAT IS 9 YEARS OLD WHO IS EPILEPTIC AND ADHD, SO I'M WORRIED THAT MY SON MAY FACE THE SAME OBVIOUS FATE ONE DAY. I DEEPLY AND SINCERELY PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AS WELL, YET FEEL AS THOUGH MORE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE'VE ALREADY WITNESSED A TRAGIC "I Can't Breath" Situation ALMOST 2 -3 YEARS AGO, ALTHOUGH IT WAS IN PUBLIC. WHY WERE THE POLICE THERE TO PUT HIM DOWN INSTEAD OF THE MENTAL REQUEST. THIS HAS TO STOP. WHEN WILL THE ACTUAL CHANGE COME....
Are you even serious right now?!?! I'm ALL FOR JUSTICE AND LOATHE IMPROPER POLICE BEHAVIOR, but these cops were patient and treated this man with respect until he became a physical threat to not only them but his family as well!! To hear the father yelling at his son to calm down, well after he was tased and restrained, should tell you something!! What form or method would you have used? This man was clearly having a manic episode of some sort and his size and adrenaline alone was too much for the officers. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say because they didn't approach him and try to apprehend him with only their hands, they saved a huge struggle that could have turned very violent! But please don't be "that person" who is bringing up the i-can't-breathe... This situation was NOTHING like George Floyd and he was no where close to being treated the horrible way George Floyd was treated!! These officers acted in no way nor displayed any of the egregious behavior like those P.O.S's in MN did!! You are entitled to your own opinion, but frankly, it was too much!!
So... You wanted to sit though the 30-40 minutes of gibberish the guy was saying?
Stop the caps lock
it kinda looked like the cop holding his head may have suffocated herman
Exactly, he said he can't breathe multiple times until he fell silent and the officer still had him under his arms, yet Not one time did he notice that this man was no longer moving nor responding. THIS IS STR8 BS.
Also why was the robe over his head to begin with, especially when he yelled out multiple times that he Can't breath. This was intentional death in our face
Trained to kill...the mother and father were not in imminent danger nor were the cops...what a disgrace.. .
The parents WERE in imminent danger!!! What are you talking about??????
Of course they were in danger. Do you really think his behaviour was safe to be around!!!, seriously dude
Why do police always need to use force
Why do people with mental illnesses need to use meth and flip out in their parents house?
Impatience.
They call it officer safety
Why do people always fail to comply?
Get real
Edited by IMPD..hmmm and it is clear that they are continuing to press down on him for a long time once he is down..you can see he is unresponsive when he is down..
Thank You and that is My Testimony and Statement all Day. It's clear to say that he went from noise to silence, yet nobody realized that state.
He had to take meth or something else. Had to...
Murder.
Plain and simple.
Apparently a taser isn't less then lethal...
Family just trying to make a quick buck. Hopefully hire someone to clean their house
Its pretty obvious they killed him. They guy kept saying he cant breath, and it slowly got winded, then nothing. It doesnt take a genius to see that. These guys should be fired for lack of common sense. They took him down fine. But failed once on the floor. Someone could have had 3 pairs of cuffs linked and ready. You can call it hindsight, but these cops have done this job for a while. They should already know better. It seems to me these cops didnt try for the man at all. No one spoke up.
I don’t understand why people can’t just phone an ambulance, instead of calling the police they are not trained to deal with situations like this , it is also disturbing that knowing they are not trained to deal with unfortunate cases like this , they continue to interfere with these cases which always seem to have the same unfortunate ending , the citizen inevitably loses his life , to me this has to change , police are simply not trained , nor do they possess the necessary duty of care , nor do they have the caring patience to deal with these unfortunate people , that are having MEDICAL issues mental or otherwise, in short you don’t ask a guy who works in an office to go and fix a broken water pipe under the road , it’s just common dog fuck for gods sake ✌️✊🏴
There should be someone you can call whenever someone is having mental issues. Someone actually trained for the situation
And the EMTs would have done what in this scenario without the police? I work as a clinician on a mobile crisis team and I can tell you there is about a 0% chance we're responding to this call/presentation without the police
@@handletheseballss Well California is pushing for socal workers to arrive before the police... Still waiting for that to take place 🤣
The Police officers were untrained for this case. Sad as it maybe, I did hear Herman say he could not breath. I too agree with Steve Silvers, that some type of medicine dart be use to at least rest them. But, unfortunately, the IMPD killed this young man. Inexperienced Policed officers. My condolences to the family.
Lol a medicine dart?
@@andymakk7154 These people are clearly on hard drugs.
It wouldn’t matter what anyone would do they family would still sue.
You can't unless you know what drugs are in his system. Because that "dart" could cause a another issue all together!
I think that police forces should be trained on how to shoot people with a sleepy dart like they do with large animals before vets treat them. A tazer is considered use of force and can cause the heart to stop in some cases albeit rare.
You want the police running around tranquilizing people as an alternative to a taser.........WTF are you thinking
You`re either 12 years old, or you`re delusional.
CPR wasnt received fast enough.
He was fighting the cops.
@@johnnydavis5236 how can you fight the cops when you need cpr? XD
Cpr no good if a brain bleed or other psychotic break you just gonna die most times not just psychotic break must have had a bleed somewhere maybe cancer of brain
October 2019 police held me in a mobile home for 14 hours as they teargas and OC and CS gases me with multiple tri caster riot gas 40 mm bunker rounds flash bangs
It sure sounds like you barricaded yourself. 😭😂
Another in the line of Saint Floyd. Tear down some statues and put one up for this guy.
How many cops were there, and they couldn't go hands on? This is why, I want to go back to EMS. That dude was scared, and he had every reason to be, as soon as he stopped struggling, was when he died. Thoughts and prayers go out to his loved ones. RiP
I agree... Maybe you should go back to EMS. 🤡
Sure... Why don't you hold a training class for the officers then???
@michael Pluska yeah lemme add that to my to-do list. ✔️🤦♀️
@@jenniferkristen80 -- You really have no clue on how to handle a situation like this and you made a complete fool of yourself with your comment.
He kept saying that he couldn't breathe , two tasers and a blanket wrapped around his head...WOW !! 🤨🤨
why dont we have tranquilizer darts
That would be nice, but we have wild ratchets at 95 pounds on up to monsters like him that may hit 400 or more.
He never attacked anyone, so why tased him,ole I know because those cops were scared
they killed him at approximately 10:57-10:58 into the clip.