United need to buy Sverre Nypan, Alvaro Fernandez Carreras and Patrick Dorgu, who would be three excellent players and it would be interesting to see what Brighton ask for Baleba in the summer if anything, even if we already know that they will shoot high for a player who has yet to become complete.
Garnacho hasn't finished growing yet, he still has enormous potential and is a player developed in our house. If we sell him we will regret the choice they made. I think Ruben can't be given an uncertain squad, where he doesn't even know who he is coaching and who is leaving. We only have Amad and Garnacho as wingers in our team, also because Antony and Rashford are practically out of the project and the team. Many of you will say "pure profit" but it makes no sense, also because we are talking about a figure to a club like Chelsea, which is a rival club, and therefore in the Premier League, second, you think that it makes no sense to sell a player who wants to stay here and above all who still has a lot to give and to write to Manchester United. Ruben also said that he is counting on Garnacho here at the club, because "we need wingers like Amad and Garnacho who can give us unpredictability", his words during a press conference.
I don’t think people realise what a mess we are in right now! Antony gone rashford gone and now garna that’s 3 starting attackers we’ve been using for the last 2 years and now we are 3 player down and no sign of any new ones coming in if we get any injuries we are seriously looking at relegation
I have to go and watch this game again cos from what I saw when watching the game, Garnacho didn’t do anything aside running into defenders, compared to Amad that was taking on defenders and dangerous anytime he is in opposition box.
Absolute rubbish. He made chances and should of scored but was in the correct area to score something our strikers are never in, the right place. You are too agenda fuelled. Easily could of had an assist for the Bruno chance and could of scored. He’s dangerous
@@mimikatzneither did Amad who looked wasteful and greedy. Garnacho does something our attackers don’t do. Run in behind and seems to always be in the right place to score or assist. Look at likes or Zirkzee and hojlund. They never are ever in the places in the box to score
@@nolhman123Exactly mate. Amad’s in the honeymoon period (and 2 years older). When he misses a one on one it’s forgotten about or “unlucky”. Garnacho misses a chance and it’s 2 weeks of abuse. Must feel great having that kind of support.
What is with the fanbase an garnacho? Coz he done a few take ons against rangers now we shouldnt sell? Nah sorry hes still not good enough! We need better and i trust Amorim so if he wants to keep then fine but if he doesnt then fine too.
This is the part where "it will get worse before it gets better" come into play. Ineos doesnt mind sacrificing Amorim's job to get the club into a better financial space. Yes they are prioritizing business over football. However, the revolving credit and debt rot has to stop somewhere.
They should try to get Oscar Gloukh from Salzburg as an alternative if you sell Garnacho, he is also young and is capable of playing in the 10 and 8. If they can get Cunha for the same amount like they sell Garna (which i doubt) get him. There is no way they will get like a Mbeumo, Lookman or Cunha for cheap in January. Don't know about Dorgu but the italian league is famous for producing good wing backs, but its a much slower league. I would rather we get Ait Nouri if possible. If you sell Garna and Case i think you have enough to get in like a Glough and Ait Nouri.
I have to assume they are trying to get relegated at this point. Garnacho isn't the best player in the world but he is one of the few players we have who actually makes things happen from an attacking point of view. This is bad.
@MH-vp7lf Keep hearing people say this, things could get a lot worse with relegation, absolutely no guarantee of coming back up any time soon and the Glazers wouldn't go anywhere, some lovely parachute payments in their pockets as well. The Glazers aren't going anywhere, they are completely unfazed by on field performances, or crowd/fan reactions.
@MH-vp7lf ironically it's the so-called "fans" who have finished this club by funding those Glazer L££ches for 2 decades - after the super league scheme there shud av been mass boycotts and near empty stadium to make em sell up...yet most are tourists and creatures of habit.
@@paulmo5836Agreed our one and only chance to get rid of the Glazer's was lost when they picked INEOS over Qatar's bid and now we have two sets of useless incompetent owners instead of one.😢
@MH-vp7lf ironically it's the so-called fans who have funded those Glazer L ££ ches for 2 decades and allowed them to financially ruin and drain this club when any fanbase worth their salt would av starved them out after the super league scheme...unfortunately majority are tourists and creatures of routine to make a stand.
Flex need to chill with the Ugarte doubts!! Brother even in a Liverpool winning side, they Had Fabinho. You need people like that. Sometimes you can’t get everything you want. You may never get Rodri
Dear Owen and Flex, please consider what type of financial due diligence INEOs engaged in before acquiring part ownership. If they are claiming to be surprised by United's financial position then they are either incompetent (as with their due diligence for Ashworth) or they are liars. Either way, we are screwed.
Before I get into it, let me start by saying I don’t necessarily agree with the potential selling of Garnacho. He’s a decent/good talent. Nothing more nothing less. Garnacho’s ceiling isn’t that high, I’m sorry to say and the problem that United have dealt with for many a year is that we hold on to academy players for far far too long, place them on United wages, then when it’s time to get rid, nobody can afford them. Again, I’m not saying we kick Garnacho out the door but anywhere upwards of £50M, I’m biting your hand off. Also, please spare me X club sold their youngster for this much or we bought Mount for that much - just because we can’t negotiate, doesn’t mean other clubs valuation is stupid. This is the reality.
How has he done that though? Ineos might have cost us an extra 10 mil by their decisions but that doesn't affect us that much. We're in a 700 mil debt ffs
It’s all the glazers they just don’t take blame anymore they still own majority of club and ineos is in charge of everything on pitch all these cuts and all this bs ITS what glazers always done dialed up to 11 and they are laughing cause everyone blaming jim
These men at home ... GARNACHO don't go .... yall know garnacho and his agents are talking to these ppl right... These man at home GARNACHO dont goooo 😭😭😭😭 get a grip... we need the money... we won't miss garnacho dribbling into defenders and making poor decisions, dribbling off the field .....
Have you noticed how match going fans sing garnachos name and support him but you get home go online and see the opposite I feel like we have a percentage of fans online who ain’t actually fans but they are destroying us as a club
Those same match going fans booed Zirkzee, so what’s ur point. They sang for him because they wanted him to stay that’s all. Nacho isn’t all that, get that through ur head.
This club is done. It will have to completely collapse and be bought out to be resurrected. INEOS are genuinely clueless. Glazers must remove them from running the club at their end of the season. They have been the 2nd biggest disaster in the clubs history.
This is crazy ....😂😂😂 GARNACHO SHOW HAVE NEVER PLAYED ALL THOSE GAMES ... especially while Amad sat on the bench, Sancho banished... I HOPE ETH NEVE GETS A JOB AGAIN... and if he do i hope he loses every games ... the TEN HAG DEFENSE LEAGUE CAN GO WITH HIM 85 MILL ANTONY 72 MILL HOJLUND 50 MILL ONANA This GARNACHO FAWNING is madness especially from these grown MEN.
Lol Sanch destroyed Nuno Mendes IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and he was not good enough for yall... but Hojlund who has 0% skills 0.1% creativity Is getting praise for passing a player ... parallel Universe settings
So we can't buy players because of PSR because INEOS invested so much into Ten Haag only to sack him 3 months into the season and go get another manager and ask him to play a completely different system, one which none of the players they've invested in are suited to, hence the new manager needs a completely new first team but he can't get new players because of PSR hence we need to sell all our up and coming stars and even so we can't get hidden gems into the squad because we're not in Europe and will have to pay high wages to get them in but we can't do that because we're trying to lower our wage bill because of PSR yet we expect Amorim to succeed? 🤯WTF
@@JohnDoe-qm8ns it’s crazy because on everyone channel (Paddock, Saeed, UPTV), they’ve seemed to forget the Glazer’s are still the number 1 suspect to all of our current issues. I wouldn’t put INEOS close.
The mess will never be resolved because the creators of the mess remain
There's Ineos now. Expect some progress
@@midsizesedan7620 there worse than the glazers
United need to buy Sverre Nypan, Alvaro Fernandez Carreras and Patrick Dorgu, who would be three excellent players and it would be interesting to see what Brighton ask for Baleba in the summer if anything, even if we already know that they will shoot high for a player who has yet to become complete.
Garnacho hasn't finished growing yet, he still has enormous potential and is a player developed in our house. If we sell him we will regret the choice they made. I think Ruben can't be given an uncertain squad, where he doesn't even know who he is coaching and who is leaving. We only have Amad and Garnacho as wingers in our team, also because Antony and Rashford are practically out of the project and the team.
Many of you will say "pure profit" but it makes no sense, also because we are talking about a figure to a club like Chelsea, which is a rival club, and therefore in the Premier League, second, you think that it makes no sense to sell a player who wants to stay here and above all who still has a lot to give and to write to Manchester United. Ruben also said that he is counting on Garnacho here at the club, because "we need wingers like Amad and Garnacho who can give us unpredictability", his words during a press conference.
I don’t think people realise what a mess we are in right now! Antony gone rashford gone and now garna that’s 3 starting attackers we’ve been using for the last 2 years and now we are 3 player down and no sign of any new ones coming in if we get any injuries we are seriously looking at relegation
I have to go and watch this game again cos from what I saw when watching the game, Garnacho didn’t do anything aside running into defenders, compared to Amad that was taking on defenders and dangerous anytime he is in opposition box.
Same. He was trying for sure, but it didn’t look that spectacular.
Amorim don't want him sold, it's because he can't get rid of rashford! Ineos are destroying the club
Absolute rubbish. He made chances and should of scored but was in the correct area to score something our strikers are never in, the right place. You are too agenda fuelled. Easily could of had an assist for the Bruno chance and could of scored. He’s dangerous
@@mimikatzneither did Amad who looked wasteful and greedy. Garnacho does something our attackers don’t do. Run in behind and seems to always be in the right place to score or assist. Look at likes or Zirkzee and hojlund. They never are ever in the places in the box to score
@@nolhman123Exactly mate. Amad’s in the honeymoon period (and 2 years older). When he misses a one on one it’s forgotten about or “unlucky”. Garnacho misses a chance and it’s 2 weeks of abuse. Must feel great having that kind of support.
What is with the fanbase an garnacho? Coz he done a few take ons against rangers now we shouldnt sell? Nah sorry hes still not good enough! We need better and i trust Amorim so if he wants to keep then fine but if he doesnt then fine too.
@@Lucky-to7ly he’s good enough he’s proved it last 3 seasons we don’t have any wingers left at the club there is only amad
@ hes good enough and still misses sitters… not good enough actually. We can get other players.. u lot go on like were sellin prime cr7
This is the part where "it will get worse before it gets better" come into play. Ineos doesnt mind sacrificing Amorim's job to get the club into a better financial space. Yes they are prioritizing business over football. However, the revolving credit and debt rot has to stop somewhere.
They should try to get Oscar Gloukh from Salzburg as an alternative if you sell Garnacho, he is also young and is capable of playing in the 10 and 8. If they can get Cunha for the same amount like they sell Garna (which i doubt) get him. There is no way they will get like a Mbeumo, Lookman or Cunha for cheap in January. Don't know about Dorgu but the italian league is famous for producing good wing backs, but its a much slower league. I would rather we get Ait Nouri if possible. If you sell Garna and Case i think you have enough to get in like a Glough and Ait Nouri.
🇨🇦 -10🥶🥶. Big up di man dem
I have to assume they are trying to get relegated at this point.
Garnacho isn't the best player in the world but he is one of the few players we have who actually makes things happen from an attacking point of view. This is bad.
Maybe relegation is what we need to cleanse this club out from top to bottom and maybe relegation will be the thing that makes Glazers sell up fully.
@MH-vp7lf Keep hearing people say this, things could get a lot worse with relegation, absolutely no guarantee of coming back up any time soon and the Glazers wouldn't go anywhere, some lovely parachute payments in their pockets as well. The Glazers aren't going anywhere, they are completely unfazed by on field performances, or crowd/fan reactions.
@MH-vp7lf ironically it's the so-called "fans" who have finished this club by funding those Glazer L££ches for 2 decades - after the super league scheme there shud av been mass boycotts and near empty stadium to make em sell up...yet most are tourists and creatures of habit.
@@paulmo5836Agreed our one and only chance to get rid of the Glazer's was lost when they picked INEOS over Qatar's bid and now we have two sets of useless incompetent owners instead of one.😢
@MH-vp7lf ironically it's the so-called fans who have funded those Glazer L ££ ches for 2 decades and allowed them to financially ruin and drain this club when any fanbase worth their salt would av starved them out after the super league scheme...unfortunately majority are tourists and creatures of routine to make a stand.
Flex need to chill with the Ugarte doubts!! Brother even in a Liverpool winning side, they Had Fabinho. You need people like that. Sometimes you can’t get everything you want. You may never get Rodri
Dear Owen and Flex, please consider what type of financial due diligence INEOs engaged in before acquiring part ownership. If they are claiming to be surprised by United's financial position then they are either incompetent (as with their due diligence for Ashworth) or they are liars. Either way, we are screwed.
Dorgu is 20. Do you reckon he’ll get more than a dozen games to develop/improve under Amorim?
Flex forget sentiment, we need to go with Amorim.
Before I get into it, let me start by saying I don’t necessarily agree with the potential selling of Garnacho.
He’s a decent/good talent. Nothing more nothing less. Garnacho’s ceiling isn’t that high, I’m sorry to say and the problem that United have dealt with for many a year is that we hold on to academy players for far far too long, place them on United wages, then when it’s time to get rid, nobody can afford them.
Again, I’m not saying we kick Garnacho out the door but anywhere upwards of £50M, I’m biting your hand off. Also, please spare me X club sold their youngster for this much or we bought Mount for that much - just because we can’t negotiate, doesn’t mean other clubs valuation is stupid.
This is the reality.
I told you lot the Life Long Chelsea Fan with his season ticket is going to Destroy Unuted and everything the club stands for...
Ineos are a joke
How has he done that though? Ineos might have cost us an extra 10 mil by their decisions but that doesn't affect us that much. We're in a 700 mil debt ffs
It’s all the glazers they just don’t take blame anymore they still own majority of club and ineos is in charge of everything on pitch all these cuts and all this bs ITS what glazers always done dialed up to 11 and they are laughing cause everyone blaming jim
Flex stop with the I feel I feel....how about I think my bredda. Big up UV.
If this is Garnacho's last game Then we need protest,it's high time for protest, Glazerssss outtttttt, INEOS outttttttt...
Ur an idiot
If a manager can’t get garnacho to play well he shouldn’t be the manager of Man-U
These men at home ... GARNACHO don't go .... yall know garnacho and his agents are talking to these ppl right...
These man at home GARNACHO dont goooo 😭😭😭😭 get a grip... we need the money... we won't miss garnacho dribbling into defenders and making poor decisions, dribbling off the field .....
Glineos continue to fail - Full sale needed! Ratface will want out he’s out of his depth and he knows it
Have you noticed how match going fans sing garnachos name and support him but you get home go online and see the opposite I feel like we have a percentage of fans online who ain’t actually fans but they are destroying us as a club
Those same match going fans booed Zirkzee, so what’s ur point. They sang for him because they wanted him to stay that’s all. Nacho isn’t all that, get that through ur head.
@ you say that but stats say another he’s the best 20 year old in the world right now that’s facts not opinion
@ 😂😂😂😂, so what
@@vincelarsen4921 so there’s nobody better who United can get before the window
@@Andytate3000 Oh there are a lot of players better than him we don’t have the money. Hell I will sell Garnacho and buy Mitoma or Kudos
This psr ffp shit needs to end
This club is done. It will have to completely collapse and be bought out to be resurrected.
INEOS are genuinely clueless.
Glazers must remove them from running the club at their end of the season.
They have been the 2nd biggest disaster in the clubs history.
This is crazy ....😂😂😂 GARNACHO SHOW HAVE NEVER PLAYED ALL THOSE GAMES ... especially while Amad sat on the bench, Sancho banished... I HOPE ETH NEVE GETS A JOB AGAIN... and if he do i hope he loses every games ... the TEN HAG DEFENSE LEAGUE CAN GO WITH HIM
85 MILL ANTONY
72 MILL HOJLUND
50 MILL ONANA
This GARNACHO FAWNING is madness especially from these grown MEN.
Jim The Rat
Lol Sanch destroyed Nuno Mendes IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE and he was not good enough for yall... but Hojlund who has 0% skills 0.1% creativity
Is getting praise for passing a player ... parallel Universe settings
So we can't buy players because of PSR because INEOS invested so much into Ten Haag only to sack him 3 months into the season and go get another manager and ask him to play a completely different system, one which none of the players they've invested in are suited to, hence the new manager needs a completely new first team but he can't get new players because of PSR hence we need to sell all our up and coming stars and even so we can't get hidden gems into the squad because we're not in Europe and will have to pay high wages to get them in but we can't do that because we're trying to lower our wage bill because of PSR yet we expect Amorim to succeed? 🤯WTF
Do you really think 1 year of INEOS ownership is the reason we are in PSR mid right now?
@mimikatz definitely not, it's decades of the Glazers' ownership
@isawk2003 yeah, but you implied otherwise in your original comment, genius
@@JohnDoe-qm8ns it’s crazy because on everyone channel (Paddock, Saeed, UPTV), they’ve seemed to forget the Glazer’s are still the number 1 suspect to all of our current issues. I wouldn’t put INEOS close.
@@JohnDoe-qm8ns INEOS have made mistakes that have worsened our financial plight