Trying The Tesla Loop In Vegas in a Wheelchair
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2023
- CES in Las Vegas was pretty hard for Liv, so she ended up having to use her wheelchair quite a lot. Fortunately this gave us the opportunity to try out the Las Vegas Convention Center Loop and see if it is wheelchair accessible. If you don't know, the LVCC Loop is a tunnel under Las Vegas created by The Boring Company. It spans the Convention Center and Resort World. The Boring Company is working on a 29 mile tunnel that will span the whole Vegas strip. The tunnel is utilized by various Teslas that shuttle people from spot to spot directly.
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Thanks for sharing Pat & Liv! Keep sharing things like this - I think ADA requirements are often overlooked in the EV space when it isn't a requirement.
Thanks Alex! Totally agree and definitely want to bring attention to all things ADA and EV!❤️ - Liv
Thanks for this video!
Our son is in a wheelchair and we currently have an ICE minivan with an in-floor ramp. We'd love to move to an E-Transit or similar, but as you mentioned, the battery location makes it harder to convert. Also the range is not great for those of us who don't have level 2 charging at home.
Your driver was nice, haha thanks for entertaining me!! If and when we go back to Vegas this one the things we'll see and do ! 😍🚗🔌
yay can't wait to hear about your experience when you try it out! - Liv
I wish they would have sent the van to see how accessible it is. Not everyone can transfer and some wheelchairs dont fold up and have to have the wheels taken off.
I wish so too. I would love to go back and spend some more time learning about their accessibility plans for the future too. - Liv
What a great video. I want to go on this ride someday.
Zero run baby! - Liv
I hope there will eventually be vehicles like the pods in the concept video where you can roll aboard in a wheelchair. And also roll luggage aboard. As they expand to the resorts and the airport, they're going to have an even wider range of needs for accessibility. Serving the airport and the stadium, I think they'll also need vehicles in their fleet that can carry more than three passengers.
Thanks for doing this video.
Thanks Kevin, great points. Definitely going to need greater accessibility. And the ability for those with accessibility needs to access the service without requiring assistance is going to be important too! A roll-on pod would be epic! - Liv
Such a thing exists. It's called a subway with level boarding.
@@patmanbnl Oh, yes, and level boarding buses also exist. So we know that level boarding is possible. I just want to see them offer it in a loop vehicle that doesn’t bring all the inconveniences of train-based subway systems.
@@kevinbailey8827 bro what inconvenience of subway or even bus are solved by pod that does not exist? ?
@@premsprespective3507 I'm glad you asked. The loop solves the inconveniences of waiting on a platform for a train, and then waiting on that train while it stops several times at places that aren't your destination.
Went to a convention at the Vegas Convention Center in 2019. Our CEO had a suite in the attached hotel, that he hosted customers at for meetings off the show floor. I had to run back and forth between our booth and the suite multiple times.
One of the days I walked 10 miles without ever seeing the sky.
That's bonkers. That place is absolutely nuts! - Liv
The Tesla guy loves BMW. 😆😆😆😆😆. He needs to try the Mach E. 🥺🥺🥺🥺
haha right?! - Liv
I think this trip would be much more difficult if you were unable to stand and walk from the wheelchair at the back of the vehicle
Oh 100%. I probably should have asked about it...and I may need to research. They gave no indication to having transfer boards or anything, so I don't imagine that they were ready for that scenario...but I'd really like to find that out. - Liv
@@MachE_VLOG Steve Davis (president of Boring Company) mentioned all vehicles are equipped with transfer boards.
@@iwantzcouponz I have a non foldable electric wheelchair. It weighs almost 400 pounds. You can't load it into a Tesla trunk.
Simply run trains through this tunnel, it would be far more efficient.
This takes a lot of employees to run. Compared to a bus that can do 30 people to one employee.
very true - Liv
bus gets stuck in road traffic and is much slower. you have to walk all the way out to the street to get on and walk all the way back in. you're not saving much time or distance walked
@@iwantzcouponz But you could run bigger vehicles (like a bus) in a tunnel.
@@MachE_VLOG not true for existing electric buses. there's a route from LVCC to Resorts World which involves a sharp 90 degree turn. a bus would not be able to make that turn. also a bus would not allow evacuation during an emergency due to its width. there's barely enough room for firefighters to pull disabled passengers through the window currently
@@iwantzcouponz Those are all issues with the poor small design of the tunnels. It doesn't have to be a large bus. Even Tesla says they may have some larger multi-passenger vehicles that they will use in the tunnels.
I always thought the Model X would be a *GREAT* vehicle to convert to ADA/wheelchair use. Falcon door, add a fold-down ramp, remove one or more seats, roll in, have wheel clamps to hold the chair in place. I'm disappointed they haven't done this for the Loop. I wonder what they do for people who *CAN'T* stand?
I wondered the same myself! I might try contact someone and get some more info. Not sure who or how...but that's an important question! - Liv
@@MachE_VLOG all cars equipped with transfer boards. and there's a Polaris E6 modified with an ADA ramp in the vehicle roster.
@@MachE_VLOG I am wondering that nobody has sued yet for nonn ADA compilance.
I have difficulty understanding the usefulness of the loop, but I guess it's a promotional novelty in a town known for novelties. If it was really about alternate transportation to street-level options, I have to believe that a tram would be much more efficient. It's also odd that the company behind FSD forces every vehicle in the closed loop to be driven by human. It's almost like it's intentional irony for comedic effect. Is that accurate, or am I missing something because I haven't experienced it in person?
haha that's a great point! And ya...I mean I have to agree...a tram is pretty accessible by default. The floor is flat and wheelchair accessible. It's possible to have seating, grab handles, space for luggage, all sorts of stuff. I'm not sure if the aspirations of the Loop are for more autonomy and accessibility...I don't know any of the backstory...but as it stands, I'd imagine a tram would likely be lots more efficient - Liv
cost. also does more capacity than the monorail already. street level options is difficult on the strip because there's already traffic and adding more to it doesn't quite make sense. underground is the way to go. fire department does not allow any automation in tunnels currently.
@@iwantzcouponz proof about capacity?
Sadly, I think accessibility is far down Tesla's priority list as they are trying to convert as many people as possible to EVs from fossil fuel cars. THose of us with mobility challenges will have to advocate in every way we can to make progress.
Las Vegas got suckered by big tech hype when a tram or light rail would have been vastly more efficient and would be easy for disabled passengers to use.
Why has this been permitted though it's not ADA compilant? Could I sue Elon Musk or the mayor of Las Vegas?
I honestly don't know...I mean I guess they have ADA procedures...though they're not great. You could certainly try! - Liv
@@MachE_VLOG YA, if is it really public transport, it is required by law to be access, that the reason why all bus are accessible