AGS Devs: “Instead of spacing out our two MMOs so they’ll reach a wider audience, let’s stack them on TOP of each other. That way, the populations will be split and there will be WAYYY less hype around both games!” Also AGS: “Brilliant!”
It's definitely copium, but I am hoping that they leverage the shard system to address this in the future. They could easily just have PvP and PvE shards and drop people from all servers into the appropriate shard.
Heh, today they announced a 2 week delay of Throne & Liberty's release. It's hard not to suspect that it was a reaction to people pointing out that AGS were overlapping the release windows for their only 2 big releases this year.
EXACTLY, they are like human with separated body parts across galaxy so before brain impulse can reach hands it takes forever and meanwhile hands do random stuff cuz so u know why not :D
You are correct, the only reason the timing makes sense is if AGS thinks *neither* game can attract an audience. If they thought either one had a chance at success, they wouldn't risk drawing attention away from it by overlapping these limited-time events. I guess there's an even *more* cynical interpretation where AGS doesn't expect to exist as a company for much longer, so piling up all these releases at the same time is a reflection of them kicking everything out the door before they shutter the studio.
Maybe they saw how the CBT and weighed that against how many T&L preorders they have and decided planning the dates at the same time was immaterial 🤷 but also, they don’t have much time between the open beta and release, especially if they pushed it off later, they’d have less time to fix bugs found during the open beta. Idk. I don’t see the big fuss about the timing. Seems a bit nitpicky at this point because if you’re planning on playing T&L, you’ll either be more focused on that if you’re a current player and not too concerned with testing things out, or you possibly already played the CBT and aren’t interested in playing the OBT and will play T&L if you had plans for that. Either way, I feel like the timing is immaterial really. They probably want to get it all through and done because they also have their publishing team is also working on Blue Protocol, which still is planned for 2024 and they probably need to work though all this to focus on that a little more as well.
Skin rewards for beta seems an Excellent way to encourage new players to play at least 2hours and burn the chance to refund when they realise it’s dead on arrival.
gear reset, same exact game. the only change is a streamlined single player quest experience. What that means is, you can now fully do all the main storyline quests because they shouldnt be bugged, you also can skip all the dungeons, since they are not single player. They require at least 2 other players to enter. So they removed the dungeons out of the story line as well. Its not worth it imo.
@@aortenzio I stopped playing shortly after the first gear reset. Told myself I’d never go back until they added another Opr map. What a joke of a game. So much potential ruined. Coming from a 3k hour player btw with multiple war vods. This game was great. Sad to see it die.
New world coming to console hasn’t changed anything besides that it’s going to be played with a controller..like all the mechanics are the same as they were on P.C. New world isn’t tab based and Throne and Liberty is, combat is entirely different. Two fundamentally different types of games when it comes to the experience you are going to get. Different MMO experiences for different type of players. They can “rebrand” as a ARPG but it’s still the same game it was when I played on PC and when I played the closed beta.
They have to push both of those out before Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred Expansion and POE2(Free game btw) releases in October. Once that happens ain't nobody giving a fuck about NW except for the addicts.
Lets have fun and estimate how many players will play pc closed beta of a game that is beta for 3 years already xD sooo if we have 3k players world wide, it will be like 100 players in beta just to check out what was broken xD I think they dont give a fuck about this beta test, we all know they dont care about feedback, they even ban for it so they added this beta to probably show us new bugs :D:D They are like happy kid that made big shit happy to show it to everyone.
Lost ark.. They took a nice chunk of playerbase away from new world with that game too. The gap was only 3 months, but.. You see, they don't care about maintaining a game. If they could they would release a new mmo every month and ignore the previous games. It's business.. + they see the numbers. They see 100 ppl going to jump on that game, half of them going to leave it in in the first few weeks, so they release an other game with it thinking out of the 2 games an mmo player hopefully going to find what they need. That's their logic. EDIT: It's not really a problem. One releases in September, the other one in October. Betas are betas. I don't care about them. I'll check out tnl in september, see if it works out for me. Then comes new world, gonna start fresh as there's no other way to do it really. The og servers going to have a little bump in number and that's gonna drop because the new stuff as usual, simply won't be enough due to how easy the game is and we will start hearing the whining about where is the content. They put out content worth of 1-2 months of gameplay, but the game is just so damn easy that you can finish it in 2-3 days.. That's the reality still. You start fresh, you'll have crossplay, console guys. Enjoy the journey and after that the game is dead again, because it is just too easy. Today's playbase wants speed, get thorugh everything now and get more and more. You start any game and you run through the stuff and you end up without "content". If the game has it all but you can't run trough it, it's a bad game for a lot of ppl already. Like a 100k ppl left new world when they realised they had to farm a little. 500k left because they thought the leveling was too hard. Literally.. And I said even at the start when it was a lot harder, that it is too easy (to run through the story and reach lv60.) The rest left due to minor, little things. The remaining 5-15k is fluctual. They come and go with the new stuff. They do it it in 3 days, they whine a little about where is the rest and then they leave again. All they should do btw is to increase the level. Then increse the xp reqs for that with a huge amount, so it would actually take time to level up. Add new gear that you can enchant. You gotta farm for that too. The level of the gear wouldn't be a fix something and it could drop back. And then the battle pass should have daily and weekly missions with proper rewards. And with that they MUST remove that bs wild card thing. And upgrade the chests, make them giving it gold and fresh, new items. Make them locked until the corresponding boss is alive in the area - so everyone would go for the boss. Add a new weapon with each battle pass. The final reward from the free battle pass rewards would be one of the 2 artifact weapons that they would release. Each would support one of the preferred "skill tree". And what you got? Months of content.. Literally. You can't do it in 3 days. The battle pass would give you better rewards, you could only finish it in 1-2 months. You would have to farm a little until the next one. And the new areas could be a reworked area ofc as there are just way too many unused low level areas that were designed for the original starting experience. They should have done this way earlier..
Instaling game again as PC player to make all consol players life in PVP want to delete game and guilds cant wait for them to come new servers will not help them that much ;D
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Don't understand the logic either, but partially optimistic about playing again...If it's a more polished leveling experience with some story/lore...I'm in. I expect nothing, so I won't be disappointed either way.
My true opinion is they have burned so many players especially on the PC for New world no one wants to play it and they're trying to suck people back in for this new version they have to try to get people to commit to it and I don't think it's going to happen New world is dying and there's nothing that can do about it they burn too many people and I'm one of them what they did when they were supposed to give us PC players new content and they threw us through the trash for console that was it even when the new stuff comes out for the PC in October it's no one's going to play it no one cares about new world anymore
game is dead, no population, devs team are incompetents and liars, not a new relevant content in a all this year maybe more, pvp has been left behind by the devs. I left this game 5 months ago its better find new others game when you can play without been bitter by the wasted potential that New World was. What a disgrace.
It is better to play T&L at this point. NW has a huge RMT and very very less players, that console gameplay will not bring many players. No point to play NW at this point, that game will be closed in the future; because the same developers from NW PC now has divided into three to develop NW PC, NW:A Console, New LOTR mmorpg at the same time. I have started to questions whether is it worth to start in fresh server of NW:A as PC player? Main problems are the active population in fresh server and lack of contents and same bugs / exploits / RMT / dominating company fortress siege or any content with owning Trade Market + craft items to own everything etc tons of not fixed NW problems.
@@GamingDualities new LOTR mmorpg by using New World 's Azoth Engine (instead of Unreal Engine 5) which this new LOTR mmorpg will have console too. New World is the testing ground of LOTR development. NW:A console is made mainly because of this reason where thy don't bring any real content or fix +2 years old problems of NW.
1500 players seperated on 3 servers on prime time in EU - that's all you need to know about this game. DEAD. It's dead. Console players doesn't seem to care about it that much either, so dont expect another 1 million player launch here. They can be happy if it reaches 50k peak on consoles. Then 3 months max and its dead again. This is a last time cash-grab, nothing else. You can bet your house on the fact that by the end of 2025 the PC version will shut down and soon after that console too.
@@derhenker1799 no one on console will play this. The beta on PS5 ran at ultra low settings and 720p. Everyone in chat just couldn't fathom how a game could look so bad. Really mind boggling given my i5 and 3060 ran this ok and it looked really good. Devs porting must have no console experience. I'd demand a refund if I paid for this and it didn't improve by launch.
I stopped playing shortly after announcement months ago. Got bored need new content, especially pvp. Will come back when this drops but well see how good it is
AGS Devs: “Instead of spacing out our two MMOs so they’ll reach a wider audience, let’s stack them on TOP of each other. That way, the populations will be split and there will be WAYYY less hype around both games!”
Also AGS: “Brilliant!”
Cause they trying to compete with Diablo 4 and poe 2
It's definitely copium, but I am hoping that they leverage the shard system to address this in the future. They could easily just have PvP and PvE shards and drop people from all servers into the appropriate shard.
@@aortenzioI hope not lol
New World Oddity, cool video I loved it
Heh, today they announced a 2 week delay of Throne & Liberty's release. It's hard not to suspect that it was a reaction to people pointing out that AGS were overlapping the release windows for their only 2 big releases this year.
New World devs dont know what they re doing we had many examples
Your expecting Logic from AGS you mad lad
lol
😂😂😂😂😂
EXACTLY, they are like human with separated body parts across galaxy so before brain impulse can reach hands it takes forever and meanwhile hands do random stuff cuz so u know why not :D
low-lvl twinking in new world arenas actually sounds like it could be fun. combat might even play better than at 65.
Can't wait for the AoC alpha 2!!!!
8 years of development for an Alpha 2 is insane.
Will the rewards in the beta be found in the game when it is released?
Time to start collecting content creators who will be willing to cover New World positively post console launch.
They will sound like clowns like they used to :D It will be even more obvious then AE paid update.
You are correct, the only reason the timing makes sense is if AGS thinks *neither* game can attract an audience. If they thought either one had a chance at success, they wouldn't risk drawing attention away from it by overlapping these limited-time events.
I guess there's an even *more* cynical interpretation where AGS doesn't expect to exist as a company for much longer, so piling up all these releases at the same time is a reflection of them kicking everything out the door before they shutter the studio.
I was excited for throne and liberty but when I heard ags attached I lost hope
Console players aren’t big on betas, we’ll see what happens to player counts once released… might have bigger impact if it hits xbox game pass
Expecting AGS to be good game devs is like expecting Joe Biden to remember what he ate this morning.
Its even more baffling when you consider the bew world beta only lasts 3 days. Why overlap them?
does the name wipe after 6 months inactivity automatic or if someone just gets your name?
stopped playing a month ago 11000 hours the community is what made the game for me
So Throne and Liberty got postponed right?
Yea. To October 1st. Early access is now Sept 26th.
Maybe they saw how the CBT and weighed that against how many T&L preorders they have and decided planning the dates at the same time was immaterial 🤷 but also, they don’t have much time between the open beta and release, especially if they pushed it off later, they’d have less time to fix bugs found during the open beta. Idk. I don’t see the big fuss about the timing. Seems a bit nitpicky at this point because if you’re planning on playing T&L, you’ll either be more focused on that if you’re a current player and not too concerned with testing things out, or you possibly already played the CBT and aren’t interested in playing the OBT and will play T&L if you had plans for that. Either way, I feel like the timing is immaterial really. They probably want to get it all through and done because they also have their publishing team is also working on Blue Protocol, which still is planned for 2024 and they probably need to work though all this to focus on that a little more as well.
PS5 beta ran at ultra low settings and 720p. This games is DOA on consoles. Never seen anything so low res and blurry.
I can't imagine playing endgame PVE M3 on pad or PVP, it will be refund fest
We just need more pvp maps/content really
A new PVP map is on the release of Arteum.
Amazing, i can't wait to play with pc players on a separate pc server.....
Skin rewards for beta seems an Excellent way to encourage new players to play at least 2hours and burn the chance to refund when they realise it’s dead on arrival.
哥們，似乎是開放測試，你為什麼說2小時
I thought it was in open beta all this time, no?
Throne and Liberty has been delayed.
I can’t wait till we see another video from AGS with the usual talking heads on the camera. I just can’t fathom how they will face the community lol
NEW WORLD WHERE FUN GOES TO DIE
Let the new people enjoy
So is this another gear reset for pc players? Or is this a completely different game now?
gear reset, same exact game. the only change is a streamlined single player quest experience. What that means is, you can now fully do all the main storyline quests because they shouldnt be bugged, you also can skip all the dungeons, since they are not single player. They require at least 2 other players to enter. So they removed the dungeons out of the story line as well. Its not worth it imo.
@@aortenzio I stopped playing shortly after the first gear reset. Told myself I’d never go back until they added another Opr map. What a joke of a game. So much potential ruined. Coming from a 3k hour player btw with multiple war vods. This game was great. Sad to see it die.
@@aortenzio I had probably 20-30 wars after the first gear reset and then quit cold turkey and haven’t went back
I believe AGS knows that TL and NW have their own audiences. Not everyone who plays NW want to play TL.
Yeah I don't think the cross over will be too high
I would agree, even more so since they rebranded NW that is now an arpg
New world coming to console hasn’t changed anything besides that it’s going to be played with a controller..like all the mechanics are the same as they were on P.C.
New world isn’t tab based and Throne and Liberty is, combat is entirely different.
Two fundamentally different types of games when it comes to the experience you are going to get.
Different MMO experiences for different type of players.
They can “rebrand” as a ARPG but it’s still the same game it was when I played on PC and when I played the closed beta.
They have to push both of those out before Diablo 4: Vessel of Hatred Expansion and POE2(Free game btw) releases in October. Once that happens ain't nobody giving a fuck about NW except for the addicts.
I might just play it to get the skins, and level 25 is not that hard I can probably do that in the first day
TnL delayed till 9/26-10/1 ~
What a dad death New World is suffering. The game had so much potential.
Open beta for a rename of the exactly same game that is over 2 years open beta?????
Throne and liberty delay.... Confirmed.
Lets have fun and estimate how many players will play pc closed beta of a game that is beta for 3 years already xD sooo if we have 3k players world wide, it will be like 100 players in beta just to check out what was broken xD I think they dont give a fuck about this beta test, we all know they dont care about feedback, they even ban for it so they added this beta to probably show us new bugs :D:D They are like happy kid that made big shit happy to show it to everyone.
Lost ark.. They took a nice chunk of playerbase away from new world with that game too. The gap was only 3 months, but.. You see, they don't care about maintaining a game. If they could they would release a new mmo every month and ignore the previous games. It's business.. + they see the numbers. They see 100 ppl going to jump on that game, half of them going to leave it in in the first few weeks, so they release an other game with it thinking out of the 2 games an mmo player hopefully going to find what they need. That's their logic. EDIT: It's not really a problem. One releases in September, the other one in October. Betas are betas. I don't care about them. I'll check out tnl in september, see if it works out for me. Then comes new world, gonna start fresh as there's no other way to do it really. The og servers going to have a little bump in number and that's gonna drop because the new stuff as usual, simply won't be enough due to how easy the game is and we will start hearing the whining about where is the content. They put out content worth of 1-2 months of gameplay, but the game is just so damn easy that you can finish it in 2-3 days.. That's the reality still. You start fresh, you'll have crossplay, console guys. Enjoy the journey and after that the game is dead again, because it is just too easy. Today's playbase wants speed, get thorugh everything now and get more and more. You start any game and you run through the stuff and you end up without "content". If the game has it all but you can't run trough it, it's a bad game for a lot of ppl already. Like a 100k ppl left new world when they realised they had to farm a little. 500k left because they thought the leveling was too hard. Literally.. And I said even at the start when it was a lot harder, that it is too easy (to run through the story and reach lv60.) The rest left due to minor, little things. The remaining 5-15k is fluctual. They come and go with the new stuff. They do it it in 3 days, they whine a little about where is the rest and then they leave again.
All they should do btw is to increase the level. Then increse the xp reqs for that with a huge amount, so it would actually take time to level up. Add new gear that you can enchant. You gotta farm for that too. The level of the gear wouldn't be a fix something and it could drop back. And then the battle pass should have daily and weekly missions with proper rewards. And with that they MUST remove that bs wild card thing. And upgrade the chests, make them giving it gold and fresh, new items. Make them locked until the corresponding boss is alive in the area - so everyone would go for the boss. Add a new weapon with each battle pass. The final reward from the free battle pass rewards would be one of the 2 artifact weapons that they would release. Each would support one of the preferred "skill tree". And what you got? Months of content.. Literally. You can't do it in 3 days. The battle pass would give you better rewards, you could only finish it in 1-2 months. You would have to farm a little until the next one. And the new areas could be a reworked area ofc as there are just way too many unused low level areas that were designed for the original starting experience. They should have done this way earlier..
well now you know the reason, TL is delayed a few weeks lol
Yep LOL
Love your optimism jay! But I don’t think you giving them new ideas by telling them to delay that update, we all know it will happen 😅
Three days and level 30 cap. They really want that juicy PC feedback, huh? xD
Instaling game again as PC player to make all consol players life in PVP want to delete game and guilds cant wait for them to come new servers will not help them that much ;D
game reutilizado empresa ta tentando lucrar as custas de vcs que nao conhecem o jogo esta fadado a morrer divulguem isso para ver se eles aprendem a valorizar os jogadores
Don't understand the logic either, but partially optimistic about playing again...If it's a more polished leveling experience with some story/lore...I'm in.
I expect nothing, so I won't be disappointed either way.
Open BETA for a repackaged remarketed game with no changes SMH
AND I bet you believe whoever gets elected is gonna change things
My true opinion is they have burned so many players especially on the PC for New world no one wants to play it and they're trying to suck people back in for this new version they have to try to get people to commit to it and I don't think it's going to happen New world is dying and there's nothing that can do about it they burn too many people and I'm one of them what they did when they were supposed to give us PC players new content and they threw us through the trash for console that was it even when the new stuff comes out for the PC in October it's no one's going to play it no one cares about new world anymore
Too late. Everyone has been burned 4 times by this game they ain’t coming back. TL, WoW, and Guild Wars 2 all launching fresh content.
Throne and Liberty gonna be dead before it releases anyways combat feels meh.
I played new world since beta .. uninstalled last week they wrecked the game
game is dead, no population, devs team are incompetents and liars, not a new relevant content in a all this year maybe more, pvp has been left behind by the devs. I left this game 5 months ago its better find new others game when you can play without been bitter by the wasted potential that New World was. What a disgrace.
It is better to play T&L at this point. NW has a huge RMT and very very less players, that console gameplay will not bring many players.
No point to play NW at this point, that game will be closed in the future; because the same developers from NW PC now has divided into three to develop NW PC, NW:A Console, New LOTR mmorpg at the same time. I have started to questions whether is it worth to start in fresh server of NW:A as PC player? Main problems are the active population in fresh server and lack of contents and same bugs / exploits / RMT / dominating company fortress siege or any content with owning Trade Market + craft items to own everything etc tons of not fixed NW problems.
New lotr moba? Are they bringing back lotr conquest finally??
@@GamingDualities new LOTR mmorpg by using New World 's Azoth Engine (instead of Unreal Engine 5) which this new LOTR mmorpg will have console too. New World is the testing ground of LOTR development. NW:A console is made mainly because of this reason where thy don't bring any real content or fix +2 years old problems of NW.
@えーくっと wasn't AGS new LotR mmorpg canceled a while ago?
@@UnderScorePT It is in development again by AGS itself quite some time already.
1500 players seperated on 3 servers on prime time in EU - that's all you need to know about this game. DEAD. It's dead. Console players doesn't seem to care about it that much either, so dont expect another 1 million player launch here. They can be happy if it reaches 50k peak on consoles. Then 3 months max and its dead again. This is a last time cash-grab, nothing else. You can bet your house on the fact that by the end of 2025 the PC version will shut down and soon after that console too.
@@derhenker1799 no one on console will play this. The beta on PS5 ran at ultra low settings and 720p. Everyone in chat just couldn't fathom how a game could look so bad. Really mind boggling given my i5 and 3060 ran this ok and it looked really good. Devs porting must have no console experience. I'd demand a refund if I paid for this and it didn't improve by launch.
@@PixelBaller yikes XD
o7 hahaha
Throne and Liberty is L bot game
I stopped playing shortly after announcement months ago. Got bored need new content, especially pvp. Will come back when this drops but well see how good it is
Nobody cares about new world anymore
Yet here you are...