Forensic Files - Season 12, Episode 2 - Insulated Evidence - Full Episode
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- Опубліковано 28 січ 2025
- It's usually easy to determine how a criminal entered the crime scene. But in this case, it was far from clear. It looked like the killer vanished into thin air...and perhaps he had.
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By 2023, Michael Andrade would have been a 42 year old successful doctor with family. RIP. My condolences.
He probably would have never gotten in to med school.
Too White.
more likely would have been a garbage man
@@saveus228 this man was going to school to become a doctor and probably would have graduated if it not been for the evil actions of another human being
@saveus228 you will always be a bitter douchebag. Lol
@@saveus228 well at least he would’ve been doing honest work unlike the perpetrator
Man, this episode always unnerved me the most. Rest in peace, Michael.
Definitely a good case for making sure to put some sort of locking mechanism on any roof hatches in a multi-tenant building. And some sort of alarm.
Yeah those people for sure never leave anyone alone they just terrorized the community
I'm watching these videos because the narrator and his voice is perfect.
Real creepy that there was an accessible crawl space. Makes me wonder if many top level apartment or condo units have something similar
they do.
@@adotintheshark4848 😳
@@sliving7386 😬
Really scary
They do, But you can do something to prevent someone from breaking in
Joe Luna's most recent appeal was denied by the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in August of 2021. He remains on Texas's Death Row.
Well that's the most recent info I've heard. Everything on him is 10 years old or more. Good info is getting impossible to find anymore.
@@muffs55mercury61 Tom is the best.
Wow Thanks U for that's good news ever Sick Monster For Real
The nerve of asking for the death sentence and then filing for an appeal.
I was hoping this guy would have gotten that express lane death row I am always hearing about in Texas.
No such luck.
I took a break from FF because I had watched all the episodes over the years. So I watched other crime channels, some are nice but they just try so hard to be analytical or edgy, FF is undoubtedly thee best. Great pacing, dialog and no jokes or judgment. And best of all no effing sponsors or merch.
Can u name some crime channels
Agree. FF is my fave too.
@@theemperor2017 There's a bunch of them. Try running a search for true crime and see if there are any you like.
And you notice how FF never recaps after commercial breaks? They’re like “if you didn’t tune in from the beginning too bad we’re pushing forward”. I like that.
And Peter Thomas 😊
I’m glad I’m living in a house right now. Had I watched this when I was living in an apartment, it would have scared the crap out of me. I always chose apartments on the second floor because they felt “safer.”
RIP Michael. You were one of the good ones. 😔
I too like the second floor of apartments which I am currently. It's safer+ not so high-up from the ground to jump out of the window 🪟 in case of a 🔥🚒 fire.
I lived in a building that had this set up when I was a kid.
Poor Michael he didn’t deserve this heartbreaking 💔
Some people take melatonin but I watch forensic files, goodnight world 💤
Me too
Yes!!! I'm not a weirdo haha!!! My kid always ask how I can listen to this to fall asleep too:)))
I combine them!!
I started dreaming about dead bodies lol
I’m not alone 🙏🏿
Forensic Files is my favorite show of all time. Better than First 48. Please Please keep new episodes coming.
The narrator, Peter Thomas, is the best to ever do it.
Well done Maria. You were so desperate for a man you moved a monster in with your kids and looked the other way.
😁
typical brown people
@@theinternet6341 a skin tone can not determine how is person is gonna act so stop wit the racism or colorism(if you yourself is of brown skin)
@@theinternet6341 white women also bring strange men that ends up murdering their loved ones
@@theinternet6341 racist much?
18:37
So she'll have a near stranger and criminal around her son, but she doesn't want to say the word 'kill'? Absolute insanity.
Some women are desperate. And cannot be alone.
@@joechiodi5529*people
I can't believe she had someone like that around her son.
What better would you expect from a single mother 😆 🤣
@@jamespimental6919 haha true that some are trailer trash but not all
Single moms
I'm a single mother, and would never even think of moving-in some random guy. No way.
@@donnamariedavidson5065why Uranus single?
I cried all day for Michael tears were rolling down my eyes .My dad was Michael my nephew is Michael my niece Michela . I really feel bad for this handsome guy and for his beautiful sister and family .I send them hugs and kisses 😢
That reaction is a little weird
I like how the forensic pathologist. Explained everything that lady is a genius of what she do.❤
The connecting crawl spaces is beyond eerie
I lived in a building that had this.
"there are certain people who , by their decisions , forfeit their right to live" you can't rehabilitate these people -this guy admitted it , he enjoyed it . If only ALL killers would be so truthfull , it would save a lot of heartache
Doesn't help when the so-called corrections system does little to nothing to correct bad behaviour...
There are people who have been "corrected" and as soon as they get released , go and murder again.
It's obviously difficult to "correct" a murderers behavior especially if they had crappy parenting or some other mental deficiency.
It's like trying to rehabilitate a pedophile.
Not gonna happen .
Usually they're melanated
He even asked the jury to give him the death penalty. . .usually the perpetrator is trying to save their own sorry life and dodge the needle.
Ever attend grammar school? I thought not. Each and every word, punctuation, etc. is incorrect. Aside from your horrible grammar, "truthfull" is misspelled! My goodness, stop insulting the intelligent!!!!! Go back to your own country!
When I moved into my current apartment. I made sure there was no attic entry because of this episode. What a shame.
I wonder how many lives this show has saved. I check all food/drink for antifreeze, arsenic, succinylcholine & thallium.
@@badkarma1289still Uranus is next !
" Nothing worse than seeing a JOE LUNA walk out of your closet" such a real and terrible horror😢
Can I walk in out the closet and into Uranus ?
That was a great comment.
I think the killer’s girlfriend gave the tip hoping they would eventually find the killer because she wanted out but was scared to leave him or kick him out.
Frrr
This worth nothing killer putout a beautiful light that was going to shine and heal many people that needed him. Darling Michael.
Blame the legal system for letting this waste of space out in the community -the writing was on the wall
The girlfriend brought the monster in and lied for him. She is also guilty.
😁
Talk about desperate!
She was SOO desperate for some D and companionship she picked this reject and didn't bother to do some background checking. Disgusting!!
@@KnowTrentTimoy she wanted That bad boy
She definitely bears some responsibility, but she's also apparently retarded, so that's probably why she didn't get anything...
This was probably not his first or second murder..glad he was stopped!
Uranus is going to be his last
I would have sued the sh*t out of that apartment.
why?
BTW, when I lived in San Antonio 40 yrs ago a friend of mine lived in an apartment where someone did the same thing - broke into the neighboring apartment by going through the attic - same way Luna did.
@@mikezylstra7514you seriously asked Why😂😂
After Uranus is dead ?
His voice...
In loving memory of
Peter Thomas
God bless
Thank you ...
Yes. Maria Solis is the person that dropped the anonymous tip. Who else would know all of those facts that weren’t public plus who would’ve known the exact items that were taken from Michael’s home. She was scared she was gonna be next, she had become a prisoner in her home.
if i had to guess id say, she had to have been the anonymous caller so it appears she did the right thing in an underhanded way. i mean who else would know about the crawl space? if its not the current tenant its either a former tenant or maintenance. i think she reported it anonymously because she feared for her own safety but wanted to do the right thing.
I'm so sorry for your, loss my condolences to the family.
Yes... he meant to kill him , observed him and perceived he was his opposite
And Luna continues to work the legal system to get his death sentence overturned, when in fact he should have fried long ago.
I doubt he'll get off death row. And if he does they boys will have fun with him in public prison. I hope he doesn't drop the soap either because the boys having fun with him everyday will be even worse than death!
Didn't he ask for the death penalty?
@@GoldNava do you seriously believe in & carry on crap myths you hear ?? 😐☹️
@@jimmyohara2601 I'm almost certain someone or a group had some "fun" with Luna. He earned it...every once of it.
@@KnowTrentTimoy 0nce or Ounce ?? 🤔
"There could be nothing worse then waking up to a Joe Luna in your closet"...I can't even imagine! What a cowardly p.o.s. If this wasn't 1 of the most senseless murders...God Bless Michael's family. RIP MICHAEL 🙏
Yes!! Horrifying thought!!😮
After watching FF for years, I now start to feel sleepy as soon as opening jingle is played.
i'm sorry but i laughed when the one cop literally said,
_"a flame-type fire"_ 😂
Those type of apartments are scary being able to crawl from unit to unit.
This is extremely devastating. Michael seems to be a nice guy :(
Most recent info I've found was from 2023. More than 17 years on Death Row, and they still haven't executed him. *shakes head*
A senseless death of a fine young man. Apartment attic access doors need to be locked from the inside to prevent entrance by an intruder.... fathers don't let your daughters go to college and not check their surroundings !
R.I.P. ❤ Michael Andrade
9999
Rip to that hard working smart boy
I hope his beautiful sister continues to live for him 🤞🏻
I'll never understand why they keep letting violent people out of jail.
Living in an apartment is very dangerous, especially if your neighbors love to let strangers live in their apartment unit uncontrollably, like in my apartment in Glendale CA..
The family could sue the apartment complex because the crawl space nobody inspected them obviously Michael had no idea that it was there
You don't look up when looking at apartments?
You don't look up when inspecting a place?
His girlfriend needed to be charged too. She covered for him and lied for him and if it was up to her, he would never be charged, and keep on doing it.
I think she is the tipster and had reasons to fear the boyfriend if he knew even if he was in prison
I wonder how the anonymous caller knew about the crawl space
unbelievable that the woman was so desperate to keep this guy that she'd lie to investigators.. I mean.. why would you wanna do that? If he's innocent, you don't lose anything. If he's guilty, you don't want that guy around... I'm desperate myself, but not THAT desperate..
she obviously has problems
🤣 you go girl 👏
😂😂😂
I know that's right! 🤣
i always thought this episode was like a real life f***ken horror movie! REALLY CREEPY STUFF
Poor Michael Andrade, he didn’t know that Joe Luna was going to murder him. It is unbelievable and so despicable how people plan murders like they are making plans to go on a vacation trip. They have no soul and no conscience whatsoever being so iced-cold blooded killers. Michael didn’t have to die that way having a future ahead of him. Very sad. 😢
Rest Peacefully always, Michael. 💐🙏
This is who females choose to date
Oh my goodness 🥲🥲I am so sorry for Michael and his family .Rest In Peace
Joe.. Sparky, pleased to meet you, have a seat. This should be an electifying meeting.
sad for Michael whose dream of becoming a doctor was not realized...
I wonder if Michael was aware about that crawl space?the owner should be held accountable..
That's what I was talking about.... 😢
Rest in peace Michael. 😞
Holy shit Batman! I better go check the attic crawl space in my apartment which is on the third floor. Surely there's like a partition or barrier preventing the Joe Lunas of the world from gaining access to my place while I sleep!!! 😳
"When he didn't hear any sound, he dropped in"😢
I agree totally with those comments!!! Wish I had of back n the day went to school for forensics!! I find that fascinating very interesting!!! Can't get away with shit nowadays!! I love it!!! Pray one day they can stop all these sickos n the world!!!
Shouldn't the police have learned of the attic before the anonymous call? Seems they entirely ignored the attic in the preliminary investigation. Another lackluster performance from lackluster police...
I'm scared now I have a crawl space in my closet ceiling .. I live in a regulated housing apt .. so those of us that moved in here moved in because we needed low rent .. the apt itself is nice great big tub nice little kitchen plenty of storage space I love it I've only been here for about a month but now I'm a bit paranoid cause I'd someone wanted to rob me they might be able to come in through the crawl space
Hey guys I just love your stories
The police’s two kicks were pretty good - im sure the woman from the other apartment was scared of him and didn’t talk but wow just wow- poor young man the horror he had lived before dying - poor family and the rest of people that loved that poor young man 🙏🏻❤️🕊
Why in the world did that woman let that criminal live with her? Thanks for forensics.
My question is who was the tipster and how did that person know that the killer didn't get into the house through door or window but through attic?
My guess, Lina’s girlfriend.
Duh , the girlfriend 🙄 😒 🤪 🤣
@@chateaupig826 well why did she then turn around and initially lie in the integration room.....
@@brianwilliams6167 duh , because she didn't want to give up the kock
@@brianwilliams6167 do you want that crazy dude after you?
How the hell did the anonymous tipper know that stuff?
Right? I'm hella confused
I think it was that woman. She must've been terrified to call the police directly and I'm sure she knew she'd be dead too if got caught by the "boyfriend"
She was stupid and pathetic to let that man move in with her but I think it was her who tipped the police
I think it was a maintenance man, they’d know about the crawlspace.
Most likely the killer confided to someone...
@@pabiedaisy8164hella confused? Are you from Northern California?
Why wasn’t he arrested? As soon as they found out it was him who did all these home invasions and robberies why didn’t the girlfriend report him to the police. this is some justice system that we’re paying for
Very noble sir, very noble
Psychopathic Predators. Some people are just plain evil.
Poor Michael would be 39 almost..has been gone for 17 yrs why is Luna still breathing...fry the fuc already!!🤬🤯
I hope they no longer make apartments or townhomes with crawl spaces. The thought of it haunts me terribly that you cant feel safe in your own home!
They don’t, right after this at least the state of Texas didn’t allow this.
Crawl spaces are sometimes necessary but they don’t need to interconnect the individual units. Such a cheap thoughtless way to build an apartment building.
I really love how there are people here from 3 months ago: to years ago. Peter Thomas makes these amazing from the Boomers- to whatever we have today. ❤❤❤He still lives on!!
My condolences to the family
I love his voice
You mean Micheal chose to rent an apartment over dorm life which could have been interesting he was missing out on all the excitement something he would have remembered in the years to come
After watching this episode, I installed a lockable door handle at my bedroom closet that would lead to the crawl space attic.
why don't they just close the damn ceilings -save lives
@@chateaupig826 Scumbag contractors will cut every corner possible to put more money in their pockets.
@@chateaupig826 you're kidding, right...? You need access to the attic. Wiring is up there. The inside of the roof is up there. The insulation is up there. Also, if you get bees or squirrels up there, it makes life easier to get in there if you have to. It's sort of like suggesting you block off the basement
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 can't there be access by the upper side of the house somehow , the roof ?
I mean if they can put someone on the moon ..
@@chateaupig826no. Do you want leaks? Now you have water pooling in your home and mold growing because you put a door on a roof.😂
Who was the tip from? That crawl space totally eluded le!
He really wanted to be a doctor. 💊 He really wanted to help people. 💉 🏥 I loved those balloons with that Apartment lease sign.🎈 I love the name Lilly Macias.❤
Who tipped off the killer had crawled in the ceiling? Who would have known that except Joe and Maria?
I was wondering the same thing !!
One of her tiny kids maybe ? Lol
Fiberglass. Only place it would be was in a ceiling.
many think it was the woman he was staying with...he most likely smelled of smoke and she knew there was a murder and fire but was afraid for her life and her kid who was 3...imagine this guy out on bond or if he found out it was her....
Had to be the girlfriend
"Might not be such a thing as the perfect crime, but sometimes there's the perfect victim" !!
I don't understand how you can subdue someone while tearing bedsheets with your bare hands.
Like with your knee…RIP George Floyd
Probably knock him out first
He had experience
They didn't show it in the episode, but when scum-o confessed, he said he had a gun.
Probably knocked him out cold
19:56, that's an absolutely true statement, Mary!
First I hope that Maria was charged too, she knew & didn't say sh*t, just as guilty! Second, when they ask for Death Penalty, they should deny it. That means he doesn't want to suffer a lifetime of incarceration, so that's what he should suffer. As well, sometimes they ask for Death Penalty cause they know it will get commuted to life sentence with the help of appeals & they get their own cell with privileges gen pop do not get.
Don't deny , make it public like the good-old-days 😃
I wanna throw rancid onions at the bastard as he walks to the gallows
I lived in an apartment that had the same exact attic crawl space. The central air units were up there.
Rest in heavenly paradise Michael Andrade 😢
It was a perfect crime as the girlfriend walked away FREE.
Im assuming the tipster was a confidant or friend of Joe. I dont understand if Maria was indeed the tipster, why'd she still tried to cover for Joe in the police interviews and potentially incriminate herself...
Brilliant police and forensic work...seems in SA although there is highly qualified and capable people...the amound and brutality of crime as well as lack of preserving crime scenes fails so many times...
LADIES GET REAL: Women need to do criminal checks on potential partners. It’s not a bad thing but a good protection for you and your family.
Anyone else wondering who left the anonymous tip? If it wasn't Maria herself, who was it?
It was Maria. Yet, the clues led straight to her apartment.
I live in Daytona Beach, Florida, and ive been through Bunnel, Florida many times, and there are a lot of houses that look just like this one. Makes me wonder 🤔
My question is why did that man get who committed all those crimes before to other people was out of prison like wtf you get more time for sleeping drugs then you do for worse things
RIP Micheal this man not only took your life but he took your future Joe admitted he killed you and he pleaded guilty for it his is on Death Row now paying restitution to you and your family Micheal you would have done great things
I lived in those apartments I remember it well .
Man that little dude really doesn't look like he could overpower someone and strangle them. That's shocking
Justice served
It's a shame there are only so many episodes. I wish I could watch a new one every night.
u won't freak out watching these chilling episodes at midnight??
When you have an animal that can’t be trusted not to attack humans. You put it down.
That’s my take on Joe Luna
dude had 1 job, make sure no one Is home if you are robbing the place and he couldn't even do such a simple task, if so this man would at least possibly still be alive today, I would never live in an apartment complex like this, too many stories I see with these types of complexes, the setup/security doesn't seem secure enough for me, its so sad when the case is a situation where its random so the victims had no way at all to avoid it
That monster is definitely not bright! And if Michael would of lived and Joe would of been arrested and did his time the courts would of let him right back on the streets and who knows if he would of ever been caught. I feel so bad for Michael but his death is not in vain! The girl should of been locked up too.
@@GoldNava but lock the women up for what?, I don’t think she had anything to do with the crime
She covered up for the crime ! And covered up for a murderer when he told her what he did. Shes just as filthy !
Doesn't sound like he cared if ppl were home or not if he had a previous conviction for burglary where he also tied up the victim
@@teamchi93 She never admitted anything till they grilled her about the overalls in the washbasket -only later she told the fuzz Luna had told her what he'd done -Bitch was protecting that random -lock her up and throw away the key !!
Luna is a perfect DP candidate, perfect. Too bad, that these monsters can appeal over and over again and very often be successful in overturning their sentence to life in prison, what a waste of tax payers money. Poor MIchael, RIP.
Yes that kind of process is unjustice. In Islam killer must go to death penalty or paying tribute if in case of accidental death.
So far he's not, thank goodness. His appeal was denied by the Supreme Court in 2021.
Wait so who’s the tipster who knew the details behind the murder?
Had to be thr GF. She said as much at the end.
Better than ASMR 😂. I listen this because the voice of Peter Thomas puts me to sleep soooo good 😊
A "gentleman walked out of the closet". A murderer is *no* gentleman.
Meanwhile, the goofy guy at her job gets reported to HR for just looking at her.
The apartment where this happened is a mile and a half away from my apartment. Same exact bricks and door as my place.
Check your closet ASAFP!
Joe Luna a REAL king of trash.
I love your commenting. Keep it up. STAY WARM. 🔥 Love and light from Gore, Oklahoma.❤💡💛
did u see all his satanic and occult tattoos? walking nightmare
Joe Luna had a criminal past? No, really?
Women wake up, stop meeting these low life's on the internet. If it is meant to be, you will meet someone. Stop trying. Not worth the heartache.. Pathetic outcome on this one.. So 😔 sad!
Rest in peace, Michael. Sorry to the family for their tremendous loss.
Grow up, Maria. Living with someone doesn't make you complete. Especially a murderer👿. Pure evil & wickedness 😡.
Kudos to the forensics experts, bravo!
your words aren't gonna reach these people... maria has some serious problems she refuses to deal with- that's probably how she ended up a single mother
You can meet bad ppl on and off the internet. History has shown that. And nothing wrong with dating and trying to find love. So yeah.