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My cousin had a blue 2006 Monte Carlo SS with the 5.3. Purchased it right out of the showroom floor. Definitely a sleeper and hurt quite a lot of feelings of people that thought it was just a S.C. V6. From a stand still, it was basically pointless on the streets. It would roast the tires right off but catch it already rolling and it would hand a lot of people their a$$. I'll admit that was a fun car and a sleeper from the factory for sure.
If you actually know how to launch, they are actually fast asl from a stand still.. had 255s up front on mine and could get it off the line no spinning @ all
Pontiacs were crazy popular here back in the day here in Michigan. I remember seeing them all the time almost 10 years ago. I wish gm could have saved them
Was my most reliable cars. I had a grand am, and a 95 Bonnie that I drove freaking everywhere. That car ate the interstate up . Over 300k on it replaced transmission once. That 3800 was a beast tho. Never had engine trouble even once
From Sault Ontario (border twin city with Michigan) and Pontiac’s thankfully are available for steals still - not to many GXPs but around still many GTPs kicking though
It’s cause the transmissions were garbage in the Grand Prix GXPs, they couldn’t handle the LS power and got chewed up. The bonneville GXPs were my favorite, but those Northstars had a lot of issues with cracking heads among other things. Both cars were so beautiful, but were almost guaranteed headaches.
@@nathankrikke6849 The engine is solid on both the LS4 and the 3800. If only GM could make a durable auto trans. They should have made a 6 speed option.
@@nathankrikke6849 damn right the transmissions were junk my stock 08 gxp went through two torque converters and it was stock . I also had other things stop working on my car not the most reliable car i ever owned that’s for sure
It also meant replacing them cost a small fortune. As they were one offs and didn’t match with any other vehicle. It’s actually why I got rid of my GXP. Didn’t have a lot of money at the time and when they were bad the bill to replace them was astronomical. I traded it in on a Ram. Was a blast to drive though! I really liked the car and had fun with it. So did my teenage son lol
@@downbrown74 They were one offs for the specific car, but I believe that they're interchangeable with all the cars on this platform. I knew a guy who bilstein swapped his regal with parts from a junkyard gxp
I bought a 08 gxp back in 2008 with 18k that was a daily rental before me . Fun car but the transmissions suck . I had to replace two torque converters
Quick tip, if you have a stock ls4 and your cruising with it in 4 cyl mode, you can blip the throttle without it lurching and it will change over to 8 cylinders, then go nuts. Smoother changeover than trying to accelerate out of 4 cyl mode.
@@howieewalt1322 cylinder deactivation is really common these days, it's also garbage, it's the primary reason why the newer LT engines are inferior to the older LS's, the lifters can fail and lunch the cam and GM has done nothing to revise the part and the dealer repair (assuming the lifter fails in its collapsed state rather than it's extended state and therefor doesn't destroy the cam) is ~$8k at the dealer, total top end rebuild required.
Glad you got to review this car. I got a mostly stock 2007 GXP in Black with a ZZP cutback & I was waiting for you to review a LS4 car one day , One other little thing you might not have know is that the ls4 can be found in 2 other cars as well besides the Impala SS, GM also put it in the Monte Carlo SS and the Buick LaCrosse Super.
Finally!!!! I had an 06 Dark Cherry Metallic GP GXP with a magnaflow exhaust. It pulled hard, was comfortable, sounded amazing, got good mpg on the highway, and had a good (for 2000s gm) interior. The HUD and staggered wheel setup were pretty cool too. Definitely have to disable the DoD, it shouldn’t hurt fuel economy and makes the car feel and sound much nicer.
Amazing how far transmissions have come in 18 years. Can def hear the difference, the bog and not staying in the PowerBand. Love seeing reviews of forgotten cars like this.
Cars were built to be affordable, easy to work on, and not over complicated in the past. GM cars and trucks were so easy to work on and parts interchanged easy. This kept prices down. My father bought a brand new F150 in 93 with a V8 for 12,500. Fast forward to 1999 I bought brand new F150 Step side 4.6 V8 with Manual Transmission for 18,500, but the stick was 23,500. The price on new truck with a V8 today is insane. Just the base models are nearly 40k.
I bought a 2008 Grand Prix GXP about 8 years ago and it's probably the best car I've ever owned. Of course, with it having over 200k miles on it it goes through a little oil, but it moves around in traffic really well and is fun on the old winding country roads.
I have driven, and been a passenger in both an Impala SS, and a GP GXP. Both cars are actually a lot of fun, they are pretty quick, bone-stock, and fall into the sleeper category. Also, In Canada, the GXP came with Brembo brakes and Bridgestone Potenza tires on them, stock. Unheard of from domestic car makers at the time. It was funny that the front wheels were wider than the rears, but for an obvious reason. The suede and leather interiors were pretty nice too, and the vehicle felt more special and sporty than the same era Camry or Accord. I think it's awesome you have done all of these videos of the ZZP cars, I think you have made a lot of viewers aware that you can make GM platforms fun and reliable, and have something more unique than what most people drive.
@@wheeldfreedom8353 you are definitely right. They do not handle. I had a 06 Impala SS for 12 years. No handling at all. Still loved the car until it got old.
I have an 07 still running in great condition that I bought brand new off the dealer lot. They drive well. It's smooth and feels like youre floating. The steering is very responsible. Ultimately it's a commuter car with great highway power. It has way more power than it needs off the line, but if you treat it well, it'll have all the power you need whenever you want it. Im never getting rid of mine unless it gets literally destroyed.
I liked my 00 Continental more than my Ls 05 grand prix. The Lincoln had a 4.6 dohc v8, similar gearing at 3.56:1, and it had a limited slip. Its funny because Ford rated the Conti at 275 hp back in the mid 90s when it was equipped with B heads and mark viii/navi intake cams. By 99, the Conti had the same C heads and cams as a 99/01 Cobra but they kept the power rated at 275. My bone stock 2000 model ran low 14s bone stock!
Ive only driven mostly FWD cars including a grand prix GT of that generation. So when i drove a GXP it was pretty natural feeling to me except i had alot more power
When I was 4 years old, my Dad bought a purple haze metallic grand prix gxp new in 2007. As a kid, I absolutely adored this car lol. Sold it in 2014 with about 47k miles on. Miss it so much. This video brought back so many memories of that car 🥲
I had an '04 GTP in Atlanta. Loved the car as it was the first car I ever started working on. The torque steer is predictable and manageable so it really becomes a non-issue. I do miss the heads-up display. My favorite feature of it was that with a press of a button, you could turn off all of the gauge lights and the interior would be almost completely dark.
Those 2008-2009 model year LS4 5.3 Liter V-8 GM W-body cars provided great performance with good fuel economy. That LS4 was rated at 303 horsepower, and the W-car went from 0-60 in 5.4 seconds with a top speed of 150 m.p.h; they were: Buick Lacrosse Super Pontiac Grand Prix GXP Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS Chevrolet Impala SS I have seen a few modded LS4 V-8 W-cars beaten Camaros and Mustangs in a drag race. Those LS4 equipped W-cars can pull hard
Dude, read your GM history. GM was putting big block V8s in front wheel drive Oldsmobile Toronados and Cadillac Eldorados back in the 1960s. Not new, just new-to-you. 😂
I had a 2-door Grand Am GT with every engine and suspension mod you could get from RKSport. It was kinda quick but handled very well. And it looked good with that ram air hood and lowering springs. Sadly I left someone borrow it and it got totaled.
@@djinkentertainment same here. I had a '99 Sunfire GT with the RKSport lip kit, induction hood and twin deck spoiler, clear corners and clear taillights. Had eibach lowering springs and Konig seven spoke wheels. Man, that car looked so good, a little better than my Grand Am GT. Had the GMPP supercharger on it briefly and ran high 13's at Numidia Dragway. Kept snapping axles. They were the days though.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya That sounds like a fantastic ride bro! Mine was a 4 door. Besides what I mentioned mine had an cold air intake, front strut mount, coilovers, blacked out rims clear lights all around, Euro tails, straight piped muffler delete and z24 rear spoiler on the trunk lid.
@@djinkentertainment that's all I run, GM and Honda because they're both fun, cheap to modify and parts are everywhere. I'm actually looking for a clean Sunbird or Z24 with a 3.1. I have an '89 Sunbird GT with the 2.0 turbo that I'm working on but I can't find parts for it. Been looking for a spare motor for over a year.
Awesome review dude! Back in the day a guy at my first job a salesman had a 400hp turbo V6 grand prix. This car Brings back so many memories working as a lot boy at a gm dealership near Toronto in the early to late 00s as my first ever job at 18 and learning how to drive manual with the cars on the lot lol. I loved these and the supercharged grand prixs and Bonnevilles. These are a wicked daily they sold like crazy back in the day . Very rare to see the V8's!
I have a 2008 Pontiac GrandPrix GXP. I have a Texas Speed DOD delete kit and a nice choppy cam and it is tuned. Transmission is next. Deciding if I am doing a stage 1 rebuild with Triple Edge Performance or go all out and do a 4T80E swap from LS4 king. He has a Monte SS that runs 9's with that trans.
Thanks for doing this. The Big GM FWD cars get a lot of hate. I always loved them. I didn't have a GXP, but did have a Comp G. But, I also had a 1998 Seville STS with the Northstar. I'd love to see you drive one too. I really miss that car. Drove it back and forth from San Diego to Florida 3 times while stationed with the Navy. I also used to take it to the Qualcomm drag races with the 4 lane 1/8 mile. This was before Cadillac was doing the V stuff and everyone was hating on me. lol. It was so fun lol.
Hey did your Cadillac kick ass when you use to take it out, I think people really asleep on the Northstar due to engine problems they had with overheating, but I think a Cadillac Northstar with a turbo or supercharger would kick ass, would make us fall in love with it, if you know you know how good a Northstar feels when you hit it and they make a special sound one would love like I did, please comment back telling me about your Cadillac , the parts you liked the most about it,
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 so if you had to do like any mods to the Cadillac what do you think would really make it badass far as more power , you had the Northstar right, or you had the still kinda fast 4.9 that would beat most cars stop sign to stop sign, it is something about that 4.9 Cadillac engine that nobody talks about, but was really fast for the 89 on up to like 95 I think , that was in the sedan DeVille shark body ones, I loved them cars ,to, what year was your sts
@@tallie7490 There wasn't anything for the Northstar when I owned mine. Would have to be mostly custom stuff. Exhaust is an option too. But, I preferred mine quiet.
I have the most custom full build GXP in the world. Glad to give work records... full parts list and more. 431 Dino to the wheels. Mine is WAY more clean and built. And I live ACROSS THE STREET FROM ZZP.
It really bums me out that when people talk about the GM cars that were V8 FWD sedans, they completely overlook the Oldsmobile Aurora because either A: they think it looks ugly and won't even look at any other part of it, or B: they never knew the Oldsmobile Aurora existed to begin with. The L47 V8 in that car was so good that GM used it in at least 6 different race cars, and the legend himself, Carol Shelby, even took notice of the quality of the L47. Yet, in spite of all that, the entire car community as a whole has all but thrown the Aurora to the wayside, and seemingly totally forgot that the car even existed to begin with. It's a platform worth building on, and the lack of aftermarket support is a direct result of never getting any love from car enthusiasts...
Aurora Was a great car!!! My fraternity bro had one and it was a nice car!!! Always liked those cars, it was ahead of it’s time and really a Japanese & euro luxury car competitor.
Had many cars. Pontiac Grand Prix is my favorite. I almost cried when the discontinued them. When I heard whispers of a 2023 GP, I got wet. I’m waiting for mine.
Honestly if you're going to build it please get a good tune. The one in this video sounded like it's stock with an intake. They open up way more and can push your shift points to 6100rpm instead of 5700, makes a huge difference. Stock they'll Dyno 245-255* can get to 300 on e85 and tune easy, if you switch your intake manifold to an ssr intake 93mm throttle body and get 3 inch catless exhaust you can pick up another 50hp as well. I wish he would reviewed one with a little more done to it than suspension and an intake
The 40th anniversary Grand Prix gtp coupe with a supercharged 3800 and cat back is my pick. Had performance brakes with slotted rotors and adjustable springs and dampers. Gorgeous car
I used a impala ss as a long distance cruiser because it was comfortable and the highway pulls made me smile, and that should be a good enough reason to have had owned one.
You pretty much nailed the description of these cars. I have an Impala SS and it's my daily. It's comfortable for cruising and if you need a little extra power to pass someone you have it. It's not crazy fast by any means but it's a nice cruiser for going on trips.
as someone who used to own and drive a grand prix gxp they're bad ass little cars for what they are. It even has a g force meter. Its basically a g8 gt's little bro
the ls4 was in the chevy impala SS, grand prix GXP, monte carlo SS, and the buick lacrosse super ! 4 cars that i know of that had that engine. I have personally owned a grand prix gxp for the last 7 years and its been awesome. nothing major has gone wrong with it yet *knock on wood*.
The Pontiac front drivers handled better than the chevy's - one reason was that they actually used wider tires in front than in back. Chevy was like no way we're doing that, it looks too weird no matter how good it handles.
I have the gxp due to the fact it has ugraded bilstien suspension, offset wheels, Heads up display, information center with trans temp and much more, tap shift, and quad tip exhaust, vented bumper and fenders for cooling ,and there is stuff that im forgetting but its definitely the best between the monte, impala, or buick with the ls4
the last gen monte carlo ss also has the same 5.3L v8. it has the same front end as the impala ss but I think it looks a bit cooler because it's a coupe
@@joshuakhaos4451 Not to mention a few never sold in America. Hyundai did one, so did Lancia, Audi made at least one.Probably more but I've not heard of them.
@@ramrod126 There was a kid my senior year that had been given an Oldsmobile Aurora. Green with a whiteish tan interior. There was also a dancer who I knew, who had a 98 Mark 8. Those things were the next quickest things on in the lot other than the 2 SN95 gts and the LS1 WS6 a kid had. Then one guy had an early 90s chevy 454 that was mint af. This is late 2000s for context. So 09-2010. Back when everything was cheap minus the classic muscle cars
My currently daily is a W-body and its such an under rated car. My car is the Oldsmobile Intrigue with the 3.5 dohc V6 and boy is it smooth! The engine is basically glass when running and the suspension is like a cloud, also the car has Magna steer so the steering is surprisingly good? Like really what i paid for the car is peanuts for what you all get, its quick it gets ok gas mileage and it looks completely modern. I have people come up to me when im out asking "what is that car?" And i tell them its a 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue and they are blown away lol! W-body cars are super under rated!
I’ve seen 2 motor swaps that used this engine, both very cool for different reasons. One was a Saturn sl1 sleeper. The other was a Pontiac Montana van. The van was cool cause the guy made it appear factory, and did a real good job on it.
@ G Shew If you're interested, check out Fanatik Builds here on UA-cam. They put an LS4 in a 1971 Triumph GT6 Mk3. They did turn it around for rear drive, but had to overcome the front drive design of the block. Fairly small channel, and very DIY (son and dad). Cheers from Guam USA👍
Ayo I had a the same gen GT. In 06 the GT basically became the gtp; they put the supercharged v6 in the GT and dropped gtp name. This was the car that made me realize i could be into cars on a common waiter's budget (circa 2016). It had a myriad of issues and legit caught on fire on the highway, however i was young and very inexperienced with enthusiast cars; it was a lesson I needed. Domestic car brand makes FWD single OH cam supercharged v6? And they said domestics aren't quirky?! PS. Was definitely not expecting you to cover a Grand Prix. I'm into Nissan's and Imports these days but Pontiac and GM enthusiast cars will always have a place in my heart, so I appreciate that.
the grand prix makes an absolutely fantastic daily driver. I have 3 lol. 100% would take even a gtp comp g over the impala ss. Another thing you dont really see until you own one of these is the insane cost to reliability ratio, especially with the supercharged v6. I have seen so many of these things running awesome with over 300k. Seen them last even longer too. You can pick one of them up for 2-4k and they will take you anywhere and everywhere nonstop for years and years with little to no maintenance other than fluid changes and basic stuff you need to do on any car.
Yes sir. Bring in the north my 98 GTP nearly rusted through around 2010. Modded most of its life and ran it to 175k. 2006 GXP Tran’s went at 250k. Should have rebuilt it the rest of the car was nearly perfect. I might buy another some time! Liked them for daily driver cars!😊
@@daneturk3393 I just picked myself up a 98 gtp 4 door with 130k. 600 bucks! Runs great just needs a new ps pump and blower. Got em ordered. I had to sell my 02 gtp coupe because I couldn't get the title unfortunately and I just blew up my 04 comp g, she threw a rod at 290k. Was making 340 at the wheels in that thing ran it HARD for about 120k miles and 2 years. Miss her :( but I'm gonna do something cool with this 98. Never had a 6th gen gtp 4 door only coupes. I think the 4 door actually handles better it really feels like it does.
Love the GXP! I learned how to drive in fwd Buicks with the 3800 series 2(best obd2 v6 GM ever made in my opinion) Always been a fan of big 4 door sleepers!
@@codereddew1539 Let me see....I think his mother had a 2002? 4 door, grand am, if I recall correctly, it was just stupid fast, his father drove us to an amusement park as teens he was doing like 100mph HAHA! cool car, I still like the 2 door grand ams with the testarossa style flares on the side doors, just can never find one thats not dead by now, those cars were never cared for.
I have Doug Thornley headers.. a full walker exhaust with full cat delete MF mufflers and tips.. that car is 50k in build behind mine. I have full bmr suspension upgrades with front and rear stabilizer bars.. BR racing adjustable coil overs.. 2500 precision stall..port and polished heads.. LS6 intake LS3 6.2 L throttle body LS7 Brian torley lifters.. LS9 springs..custom 4 inch cold air intake. ZZP polymer engine and Trans mounts.. custom billet fuel rails.. custom corvette rack and pinion power steering with custom resivours. And alot more...and e85 im michigan is stupid
I’ve always kinda really wanted this or a Monte Carlo SS as a daily. They’re totally ridiculous and impractical lol. The styling on the GXP is amazing imo. If it was a rwd it would be a car I’d have to pick up. I just like weird cars. I’m getting ready to start building my 96 Thunderbird lol.
@@ianscheurer yeah I want a 5.0 too at some point. Mine has the 4.6 2v, I love it. I like the styling of these MN12 Birds and it rides and handles very well. Hoping to build it into a pretty nice and quick street car. I have big plans for it.
@@SsMike also true! The stock trans across all cars are the same I think except one was supposed to be beefier? Otherwise their all the same 4spd and once built their pretty good
@@kyleranderson5557 the impala and monte has the worst trans the gxp has the better version which is weird because it’s all in the GM world. It’s like why don’t grade in the infamous impala SS and Monte Carlo SS two well know vehicles.
NOW I HAVE TO PUSH AND FINISH MY BUICK!!! UGH! Such bad timing with you being in and around Michigan. I will drive to you when I finish my boosted Lacrosse CXS!
Displacement On Demand is the active fuel management system the LS engines have. AFM can reduce to four cylinders, two on each bank active and two inactive. DFM (dynamic fuel management), in the new LS engines (L84 and L87), can actually reduce down to one firing cylinder at a time. It has 17 cylinder patterns to use to reduce engine vibration, a lot of sensors and software go into it.
My son just got one of these. I was suprised how nice it is. Kinda like when he had the V6 accord its no race car but I found it way more enjoyable than expected. His had the trans replaced with a trans cooler added and DoD shut off in the tune before he got it so hopefully the whole front drivetrain won't have to pulled out any time soon.
@2:24 The LS4 was in 4 cars, the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, The Impala SS, the Monte Carlo SS, and the Buick LaCrosse Super. Also I have one of these cars, actually 2 of them, one of them is my old daily that was wrecked in 2021, I bought it back as a parts car for my new one
Saying its crazy to have made this car with a v8 fwd is no crazier than ppl taking fwd Honda Civics and tuning the crap outta them to make waaaay more than 350HP. My wife owned a 2009 GP and it could haul the mail when you needed it too.
Buick had an LS4 version, too. I had an '08 GXP & I still miss that car. There's headers & a turbo kit for those cars, too. It's basically the same as a regular 5.3L, but the crank snout is 13mm shorter than normal to work in that FWD setup. But, the 4T56E trans can't hold above 400hp without a great rebuild/shift kit.
I had an 05 gtp with the some work done to the motor and trans and it was a beast! Used to take it drag racing on French road in Detroit and used to DEMOLISH almost every car that pulled up beside me. Eventually ended up joining the GPF car club and had a lot of fun doing so
I'm in VA and I drive a 2005 GTP with the supercharger. I've had a few mechanical issues in the 4 years I've had it, (replaced a transmission coolant line, new ignition switch, plastic coolant elbows blew out, replaced with metal ones) but at least it has never overheated like both of the Grand Ams I've owned. It's pretty peppy, but the suspension is a little rough. The HUD was broken when I bought it, and the cruise only half works. The rear wheels also have a pretty extreme camber compared to what I'm used to, so I go through rear tires quicker than is probably normal. I do like it overall though. I need to get it painted, as I hit a deer 6 months into owning it, so it has a door, fender and front fascia that doesn't match the rest of the car lol.
Had a GXP for about 8 years. From 2008 to 2016 Downpipe. Magnaflow and mild cam tune daily driver. Put about 110,000 miles on it. Going to pick up another one at some point for the collection. Maybe turbo.
This brings back memories. I owned a 2004 GTP lightly modded. But the GP really launched me into car clubs and that culture. Met a lot of cool people that I'm still friends with today even though we no longer have GPs. I'm very biased so out of all the W-body cars the GP is hands down the best one. ZZP got a nice bit of money from me in them days LOL.
GXP for me. It's low and it looks angry. I replaced a set of tires on one a few years ago and I enjoyed sitting in it. Seats were soft, but once you turned the key, that V8 reminded you it wasn't a 3800sc.
My neighbor has both of those(SS slso, though rebadged a Holden of course) Had to have the trans in the GXP rebuilt. Sent it somewhere to have it redone with a few upgrades. Just got it back, the trans..... he seems satisfied
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Also there was a Buick LaCrosse super and when it comes to the three I would choose the Buick or the GXP
There was 4 impala ss, Monte Carlo ss, Grand Prix gxp, and the Buick
@@mogulme6190 oh yeah I forgot the Monte Carlo had a V8 in it for a short run
I swear every GXP is frickin' purple!! Did it even come in any other color?! Lol!
@@1175jaymz check auto list there's one on there I think it's like 30,000 mi available for sale
My cousin had a blue 2006 Monte Carlo SS with the 5.3. Purchased it right out of the showroom floor. Definitely a sleeper and hurt quite a lot of feelings of people that thought it was just a S.C. V6. From a stand still, it was basically pointless on the streets. It would roast the tires right off but catch it already rolling and it would hand a lot of people their a$$. I'll admit that was a fun car and a sleeper from the factory for sure.
That sc v6 was no slouch
Monte ss owner here, this is truth. Traction control is helpless at a standstill. But rolling it pulls
3800>ls4
My 2005 impala SS supercharged beat out my brothers 2007 LS4 Monte Carlo
If you actually know how to launch, they are actually fast asl from a stand still.. had 255s up front on mine and could get it off the line no spinning @ all
A V8 is a V8 no matter what
Right bro bro the front wheel is better control tho I used to own 2005 GXP the reason I’m here because I want another one I sold my old one.
Pontiacs were crazy popular here back in the day here in Michigan. I remember seeing them all the time almost 10 years ago. I wish gm could have saved them
Gxp was the scatpack of 2004 to 2008 in mi
F*ck those bean counters
What do you mean gm
Was my most reliable cars. I had a grand am, and a 95 Bonnie that I drove freaking everywhere. That car ate the interstate up . Over 300k on it replaced transmission once.
That 3800 was a beast tho. Never had engine trouble even once
From Sault Ontario (border twin city with Michigan) and Pontiac’s thankfully are available for steals still - not to many GXPs but around still many GTPs kicking though
GXP was overlooked and underrated! This video just jacked up the prices 😂
It’s cause the transmissions were garbage in the Grand Prix GXPs, they couldn’t handle the LS power and got chewed up. The bonneville GXPs were my favorite, but those Northstars had a lot of issues with cracking heads among other things. Both cars were so beautiful, but were almost guaranteed headaches.
@@nathankrikke6849 The engine is solid on both the LS4 and the 3800. If only GM could make a durable auto trans. They should have made a 6 speed option.
For who? My grandma?! Lmao 🤣
Transmission was weak in them cars
@@nathankrikke6849 damn right the transmissions were junk my stock 08 gxp went through two torque converters and it was stock . I also had other things stop working on my car not the most reliable car i ever owned that’s for sure
Even without the zzp suspension, these gxps came with bilstein suspension meaning they could handle well out of factory
It also meant replacing them cost a small fortune. As they were one offs and didn’t match with any other vehicle. It’s actually why I got rid of my GXP. Didn’t have a lot of money at the time and when they were bad the bill to replace them was astronomical. I traded it in on a Ram. Was a blast to drive though! I really liked the car and had fun with it. So did my teenage son lol
@@downbrown74 They were one offs for the specific car, but I believe that they're interchangeable with all the cars on this platform. I knew a guy who bilstein swapped his regal with parts from a junkyard gxp
@ I could be wrong but that’s not what I was told at the time. I even checked part numbers for several cars on that W body platform and nothing.
I got a 2008 GXP back in 2020 with 80k miles for only $4,000. i will probably never sell it I love it so much. super underrated cars
couldn't find any clean ones under 7k, good for you.
@@alexanderspenser4960I’ll say got mine a red one from a estate sale 2006 GX-P 5.3 liter V8 89,200 K miles $2800 dollars call me a lucky bastard lol 😂
I bought mine a in 2023 for 2.5k. Ive put around 2k in maintenance and repairs but i love it too
I bought a 08 gxp back in 2008 with 18k that was a daily rental before me . Fun car but the transmissions suck . I had to replace two torque converters
Out of the LS4 cars, I’m going to choose the less known Buick Lacrosse Super. It’s the best looking out of the group.
The 06 Monte Carlo SS what's the perfect Monte Carlo looks-wise and you got the LS4
Buck lacrosse super is definitely not the best looking
Idk I think the Pontiac looks best but too each their own
He'll nah gxp takes it even the monte ss, buick is a grandma's car
@@Moecean sleeper
Quick tip, if you have a stock ls4 and your cruising with it in 4 cyl mode, you can blip the throttle without it lurching and it will change over to 8 cylinders, then go nuts. Smoother changeover than trying to accelerate out of 4 cyl mode.
It has a 4-cyl mode? That's sounds really cool actually.
@@howieewalt1322 it's one of the downfalls of this motor
@@howieewalt1322 cylinder deactivation is really common these days, it's also garbage, it's the primary reason why the newer LT engines are inferior to the older LS's, the lifters can fail and lunch the cam and GM has done nothing to revise the part and the dealer repair (assuming the lifter fails in its collapsed state rather than it's extended state and therefor doesn't destroy the cam) is ~$8k at the dealer, total top end rebuild required.
Hey Karol... quick tip... you can tune it to not go into 4 cylinder mode.
@@_Bishopton still has crap lifters though. I'm sure that was part of the reason for the swap. I wonder how many trans the guy has been through
Glad you got to review this car. I got a mostly stock 2007 GXP in Black with a ZZP cutback & I was waiting for you to review a LS4 car one day , One other little thing you might not have know is that the ls4 can be found in 2 other cars as well besides the Impala SS, GM also put it in the Monte Carlo SS and the Buick LaCrosse Super.
The GXP/GTP and Cobalt SS are some of the best sleepers. Everyone sees them and goes "oh an economy car" and then get absolutely destroyed.
The neon srt4 too. Such a beast because of how light it is
The GXP/GTP isn’t economy..
Destroyed? At a track? Or stop light to stop light? Haha
Finally!!!! I had an 06 Dark Cherry Metallic GP GXP with a magnaflow exhaust. It pulled hard, was comfortable, sounded amazing, got good mpg on the highway, and had a good (for 2000s gm) interior. The HUD and staggered wheel setup were pretty cool too. Definitely have to disable the DoD, it shouldn’t hurt fuel economy and makes the car feel and sound much nicer.
Amazing how far transmissions have come in 18 years. Can def hear the difference, the bog and not staying in the PowerBand. Love seeing reviews of forgotten cars like this.
Cars were built to be affordable, easy to work on, and not over complicated in the past. GM cars and trucks were so easy to work on and parts interchanged easy. This kept prices down. My father bought a brand new F150 in 93 with a V8 for 12,500. Fast forward to 1999 I bought brand new F150 Step side 4.6 V8 with Manual Transmission for 18,500, but the stick was 23,500. The price on new truck with a V8 today is insane. Just the base models are nearly 40k.
Always wanted this car haha. I didn’t care that I didn’t make sense then and I don’t care that it doesn’t make sense now lol
I bought a 2008 Grand Prix GXP about 8 years ago and it's probably the best car I've ever owned. Of course, with it having over 200k miles on it it goes through a little oil, but it moves around in traffic really well and is fun on the old winding country roads.
I have driven, and been a passenger in both an Impala SS, and a GP GXP. Both cars are actually a lot of fun, they are pretty quick, bone-stock, and fall into the sleeper category.
Also, In Canada, the GXP came with Brembo brakes and Bridgestone Potenza tires on them, stock. Unheard of from domestic car makers at the time. It was funny that the front wheels were wider than the rears, but for an obvious reason.
The suede and leather interiors were pretty nice too, and the vehicle felt more special and sporty than the same era Camry or Accord.
I think it's awesome you have done all of these videos of the ZZP cars, I think you have made a lot of viewers aware that you can make GM platforms fun and reliable, and have something more unique than what most people drive.
lmao....sleeper.....yeah ok
That transmission from factory is past its limit. Shame that it needs to be rebuilt to be reliable
They are very cool fun cars i think an good sleepers especially the impala ss
The w body platform is so underrated. They handle far better than have any right to
Until you get into a platform that can actually handle. Coming from someone who had a ~350hp gtp
@@wheeldfreedom8353 you are definitely right. They do not handle. I had a 06 Impala SS for 12 years. No handling at all. Still loved the car until it got old.
It's a longer frame so it drives in a straight line better but doesn't turn very well
I mean I hurl my 07 gp through corners and it Handles it better than I would have ever expected for sure
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Yup. GXP all day over the SS Impala!! Thanks for the nostalgia David. That is a gem right there!
What? They're basically the same car. 🙄
Gxp look better and got good sound system
@@bronem8979 anything can have good sound
@@cali2468 they have a different final drive ratio, the impala didnt have tap shift, and the gxp looked waaaaaaay better
The MC SS is better and don’t forget the Supers too
My ex-wife had a 2005 Grand Prix base model. Dunno why you said they are crap, it was more exciting and reliable than my ex-wife was.
I absolutely love these cars and I’m surprised more people didn’t build them
who would want to build this POS lmaoooo
They probably would have but they fell apart. I had an 08 GP with the 3800. The engine was bulletproof but the car fell apart around it.
As an owner of a 07’ GXP I’m not surprised at all, the transmissions in these things are garbage, almost no matter what you do to them
@@IraqVet0608 I had a 07 base gp with the 3800 and was literally about to say the same thing
@RaGe Shot2KilHD it's called get a bulletproof transmission
The round vents and giant speedometer are traditional in the Grand Prix .. had them in my 79 Grand Prix
Terrell Smith (also on UA-cam) has a 6th generation grand prix that he has done a lot to and it has also been converted to a five speed.
We gotta make this top comment
Been watching him build for years on UA-cam and in the FB groups he’s got some clean cars.
Yea
U can put a 5 speed in a ls4?
Not it's an L67
Don’t forget the last of the Pontiac Bonnevilles had the Northstar V8 with fwd!
I own a 2005 Bonneville GXP. Absolutely love it!
And it's platform twin the Buick Lucerne Super!
the northstars were the worst motor ever made also pretty gutless
Northstars are Cadillac
@@ScabFarmer the Northstar was put in the Bonneville GXP for it's last 2 years
I have an 07 still running in great condition that I bought brand new off the dealer lot.
They drive well. It's smooth and feels like youre floating. The steering is very responsible. Ultimately it's a commuter car with great highway power. It has way more power than it needs off the line, but if you treat it well, it'll have all the power you need whenever you want it.
Im never getting rid of mine unless it gets literally destroyed.
You need to drive an Olds Tornado with the 455ci and front wheel drive! Mash the go peddle in one of those and you'll know torque steer!
Toronado, not tornado.
@SomeOne_86 probably auto correct
@@SomeOne_86 Friggin spell check🤦
@@forterierocks Sorry, people often say it wrong, I've seen it irl.
I liked my 00 Continental more than my Ls 05 grand prix. The Lincoln had a 4.6 dohc v8, similar gearing at 3.56:1, and it had a limited slip. Its funny because Ford rated the Conti at 275 hp back in the mid 90s when it was equipped with B heads and mark viii/navi intake cams. By 99, the Conti had the same C heads and cams as a 99/01 Cobra but they kept the power rated at 275. My bone stock 2000 model ran low 14s bone stock!
Just throw it in reverse and now you have a rear engine rear wheel drive V8 up to about the top of the reverse gear
Just drill a hole in the other end of the gearbox, weld a shaft in and flip it around and mount it back in, problem solved.
0:15 you forgot about the buick lacrosse super😢
Ive only driven mostly FWD cars including a grand prix GT of that generation. So when i drove a GXP it was pretty natural feeling to me except i had alot more power
When I was 4 years old, my Dad bought a purple haze metallic grand prix gxp new in 2007. As a kid, I absolutely adored this car lol. Sold it in 2014 with about 47k miles on. Miss it so much. This video brought back so many memories of that car 🥲
I had an '04 GTP in Atlanta. Loved the car as it was the first car I ever started working on. The torque steer is predictable and manageable so it really becomes a non-issue.
I do miss the heads-up display. My favorite feature of it was that with a press of a button, you could turn off all of the gauge lights and the interior would be almost completely dark.
Those 2008-2009 model year LS4 5.3 Liter V-8 GM W-body cars provided great performance with good fuel economy. That LS4 was rated at 303 horsepower, and the W-car went from 0-60 in 5.4 seconds with a top speed of 150 m.p.h; they were:
Buick Lacrosse Super
Pontiac Grand Prix GXP
Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
Chevrolet Impala SS
I have seen a few modded LS4 V-8 W-cars beaten Camaros and Mustangs in a drag race. Those LS4 equipped W-cars can pull hard
Fun fact, the front wheels and tires are wider than the rears. To better manage the torque I guess.
Dude, read your GM history. GM was putting big block V8s in front wheel drive Oldsmobile Toronados and Cadillac Eldorados back in the 1960s. Not new, just new-to-you. 😂
I had a 2-door Grand Am GT with every engine and suspension mod you could get from RKSport. It was kinda quick but handled very well. And it looked good with that ram air hood and lowering springs. Sadly I left someone borrow it and it got totaled.
Man I used to love RK sport. It's where I purchased the ram air hood and body kit for my 99 cavalier back in the good old days.
@@djinkentertainment same here. I had a '99 Sunfire GT with the RKSport lip kit, induction hood and twin deck spoiler, clear corners and clear taillights. Had eibach lowering springs and Konig seven spoke wheels. Man, that car looked so good, a little better than my Grand Am GT. Had the GMPP supercharger on it briefly and ran high 13's at Numidia Dragway. Kept snapping axles. They were the days though.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya That sounds like a fantastic ride bro! Mine was a 4 door. Besides what I mentioned mine had an cold air intake, front strut mount, coilovers, blacked out rims clear lights all around, Euro tails, straight piped muffler delete and z24 rear spoiler on the trunk lid.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya definitely sounds like a good time. It's nice to meet another gm owner of those platforms!
@@djinkentertainment that's all I run, GM and Honda because they're both fun, cheap to modify and parts are everywhere. I'm actually looking for a clean Sunbird or Z24 with a 3.1. I have an '89 Sunbird GT with the 2.0 turbo that I'm working on but I can't find parts for it. Been looking for a spare motor for over a year.
V8 SHOs are pretty strange as well a Taurus that rumbles like a 5.0 mustang
Awesome review dude! Back in the day a guy at my first job a salesman had a 400hp turbo V6 grand prix. This car Brings back so many memories working as a lot boy at a gm dealership near Toronto in the early to late 00s as my first ever job at 18 and learning how to drive manual with the cars on the lot lol. I loved these and the supercharged grand prixs and Bonnevilles. These are a wicked daily they sold like crazy back in the day . Very rare to see the V8's!
I have a 2008 Pontiac GrandPrix GXP. I have a Texas Speed DOD delete kit and a nice choppy cam and it is tuned. Transmission is next. Deciding if I am doing a stage 1 rebuild with Triple Edge Performance or go all out and do a 4T80E swap from LS4 king. He has a Monte SS that runs 9's with that trans.
Thanks for doing this. The Big GM FWD cars get a lot of hate. I always loved them. I didn't have a GXP, but did have a Comp G. But, I also had a 1998 Seville STS with the Northstar. I'd love to see you drive one too. I really miss that car. Drove it back and forth from San Diego to Florida 3 times while stationed with the Navy. I also used to take it to the Qualcomm drag races with the 4 lane 1/8 mile. This was before Cadillac was doing the V stuff and everyone was hating on me. lol. It was so fun lol.
I like in the midwest Indianapolis to be exact front wheel drive is good for me rear wheel in the winter with alot of horse power is problems
Hey did your Cadillac kick ass when you use to take it out, I think people really asleep on the Northstar due to engine problems they had with overheating, but I think a Cadillac Northstar with a turbo or supercharger would kick ass, would make us fall in love with it, if you know you know how good a Northstar feels when you hit it and they make a special sound one would love like I did, please comment back telling me about your Cadillac , the parts you liked the most about it,
@@tallie7490 Back then yes. It was definitely a sleeper. Most people hated on it.
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 so if you had to do like any mods to the Cadillac what do you think would really make it badass far as more power , you had the Northstar right, or you had the still kinda fast 4.9 that would beat most cars stop sign to stop sign, it is something about that 4.9 Cadillac engine that nobody talks about, but was really fast for the 89 on up to like 95 I think , that was in the sedan DeVille shark body ones, I loved them cars ,to, what year was your sts
@@tallie7490 There wasn't anything for the Northstar when I owned mine. Would have to be mostly custom stuff. Exhaust is an option too. But, I preferred mine quiet.
I have the most custom full build GXP in the world. Glad to give work records... full parts list and more. 431 Dino to the wheels. Mine is WAY more clean and built. And I live ACROSS THE STREET FROM ZZP.
It really bums me out that when people talk about the GM cars that were V8 FWD sedans, they completely overlook the Oldsmobile Aurora because either A: they think it looks ugly and won't even look at any other part of it, or B: they never knew the Oldsmobile Aurora existed to begin with. The L47 V8 in that car was so good that GM used it in at least 6 different race cars, and the legend himself, Carol Shelby, even took notice of the quality of the L47.
Yet, in spite of all that, the entire car community as a whole has all but thrown the Aurora to the wayside, and seemingly totally forgot that the car even existed to begin with.
It's a platform worth building on, and the lack of aftermarket support is a direct result of never getting any love from car enthusiasts...
The second gen Aurora changed platforms, didn't help.
Aurora Was a great car!!! My fraternity bro had one and it was a nice car!!! Always liked those cars, it was ahead of it’s time and really a Japanese & euro luxury car competitor.
Agreed. There are GM front wheel drive V8s back to the eldorado / toronado / riviera in 67!
Had many cars.
Pontiac Grand Prix is my favorite.
I almost cried when the discontinued them.
When I heard whispers of a 2023 GP, I got wet.
I’m waiting for mine.
YES!!! FINALLY A REVIEW ON IT! My wife really wants to build hers so bad 😂 and then you release a review on someone doing it with there’s finally
Honestly if you're going to build it please get a good tune. The one in this video sounded like it's stock with an intake. They open up way more and can push your shift points to 6100rpm instead of 5700, makes a huge difference. Stock they'll Dyno 245-255* can get to 300 on e85 and tune easy, if you switch your intake manifold to an ssr intake 93mm throttle body and get 3 inch catless exhaust you can pick up another 50hp as well. I wish he would reviewed one with a little more done to it than suspension and an intake
ZZ performance will not disappoint! I built my gtp with all zzp parts except for the slp long tube headers. I hit 170 in it.
Car tuning got a turbo kit for 5k I’m bout to buy it n put it on bread pay like 250 a month . N makes 4-500 hp
The 40th anniversary Grand Prix gtp coupe with a supercharged 3800 and cat back is my pick. Had performance brakes with slotted rotors and adjustable springs and dampers. Gorgeous car
I used a impala ss as a long distance cruiser because it was comfortable and the highway pulls made me smile, and that should be a good enough reason to have had owned one.
Takes me back to 2013-15 before I had to ditch mine because of the trans 😂😂
Srsly the trans ruin everything for ppl
That's every owners reality lawl
Same here dude. Check out my comment I just left 😂😅😓
No thanks lol 😂😂😂
Yup trans always goin bad
American fwd cars are so heavy up front. They have great traction.
You pretty much nailed the description of these cars. I have an Impala SS and it's my daily. It's comfortable for cruising and if you need a little extra power to pass someone you have it. It's not crazy fast by any means but it's a nice cruiser for going on trips.
Drove one bsck when tthey were new, oem exhaust was way tame. Would love to have with a lumpy cam sounding liike a vette haha
@@CRAPO2011 I have a really mild cam in mine, but you're 100 percent correct about the exhaust. I want to do flowmasters or something.
as someone who used to own and drive a grand prix gxp they're bad ass little cars for what they are. It even has a g force meter. Its basically a g8 gt's little bro
the ls4 was in the chevy impala SS, grand prix GXP, monte carlo SS, and the buick lacrosse super ! 4 cars that i know of that had that engine. I have personally owned a grand prix gxp for the last 7 years and its been awesome. nothing major has gone wrong with it yet *knock on wood*.
These mid 2000 Pontiacs are ageing very very good!
Not really…. Sitting in one is depressing.
@@marial8235 lol true
@@marial8235 it’s really not but yk
@@raul4.r210 I had one and it was gross and depressing,lol.
Always wanted one of these growing up graduated in 09 had a 02 grand prix gt and this was the car that I wanted to upgrade to at 17 haha
The Pontiac front drivers handled better than the chevy's - one reason was that they actually used wider tires in front than in back. Chevy was like no way we're doing that, it looks too weird no matter how good it handles.
I have the gxp due to the fact it has ugraded bilstien suspension, offset wheels, Heads up display, information center with trans temp and much more, tap shift, and quad tip exhaust, vented bumper and fenders for cooling ,and there is stuff that im forgetting but its definitely the best between the monte, impala, or buick with the ls4
the last gen monte carlo ss also has the same 5.3L v8. it has the same front end as the impala ss but I think it looks a bit cooler because it's a coupe
Slight correction: there are 2 more cars that had the FWD V8 set up: The Buick LaCrosse Super, and the Chevy Monte Carlo SS.
Great videos btw!
Olds Toranado, a couple Caddys, Taurus SHO, Lincoln Continental, Olds Aurora and I'm sure I am missing a few.
Then for the Northstar equipped cars, You had the Buick Lucerne Super and the Pontiac Bonneville GXP(Both were dope cars and are really over looked).
@@joshuakhaos4451 Not to mention a few never sold in America. Hyundai did one, so did Lancia, Audi made at least one.Probably more but I've not heard of them.
@@ramrod126 There was a kid my senior year that had been given an Oldsmobile Aurora. Green with a whiteish tan interior. There was also a dancer who I knew, who had a 98 Mark 8. Those things were the next quickest things on in the lot other than the 2 SN95 gts and the LS1 WS6 a kid had. Then one guy had an early 90s chevy 454 that was mint af. This is late 2000s for context. So 09-2010. Back when everything was cheap minus the classic muscle cars
My currently daily is a W-body and its such an under rated car. My car is the Oldsmobile Intrigue with the 3.5 dohc V6 and boy is it smooth! The engine is basically glass when running and the suspension is like a cloud, also the car has Magna steer so the steering is surprisingly good? Like really what i paid for the car is peanuts for what you all get, its quick it gets ok gas mileage and it looks completely modern. I have people come up to me when im out asking "what is that car?" And i tell them its a 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue and they are blown away lol! W-body cars are super under rated!
I’ve seen 2 motor swaps that used this engine, both very cool for different reasons. One was a Saturn sl1 sleeper. The other was a Pontiac Montana van. The van was cool cause the guy made it appear factory, and did a real good job on it.
@ G Shew If you're interested, check out Fanatik Builds here on UA-cam. They put an LS4 in a 1971 Triumph GT6 Mk3. They did turn it around for rear drive, but had to overcome the front drive design of the block. Fairly small channel, and very DIY (son and dad). Cheers from Guam USA👍
Ayo I had a the same gen GT. In 06 the GT basically became the gtp; they put the supercharged v6 in the GT and dropped gtp name. This was the car that made me realize i could be into cars on a common waiter's budget (circa 2016). It had a myriad of issues and legit caught on fire on the highway, however i was young and very inexperienced with enthusiast cars; it was a lesson I needed.
Domestic car brand makes FWD single OH cam supercharged v6? And they said domestics aren't quirky?!
PS. Was definitely not expecting you to cover a Grand Prix. I'm into Nissan's and Imports these days but Pontiac and GM enthusiast cars will always have a place in my heart, so I appreciate that.
the grand prix makes an absolutely fantastic daily driver. I have 3 lol. 100% would take even a gtp comp g over the impala ss. Another thing you dont really see until you own one of these is the insane cost to reliability ratio, especially with the supercharged v6. I have seen so many of these things running awesome with over 300k. Seen them last even longer too. You can pick one of them up for 2-4k and they will take you anywhere and everywhere nonstop for years and years with little to no maintenance other than fluid changes and basic stuff you need to do on any car.
Yes sir. Bring in the north my 98 GTP nearly rusted through around 2010. Modded most of its life and ran it to 175k. 2006 GXP Tran’s went at 250k. Should have rebuilt it the rest of the car was nearly perfect. I might buy another some time! Liked them for daily driver cars!😊
@@daneturk3393 I just picked myself up a 98 gtp 4 door with 130k. 600 bucks! Runs great just needs a new ps pump and blower. Got em ordered. I had to sell my 02 gtp coupe because I couldn't get the title unfortunately and I just blew up my 04 comp g, she threw a rod at 290k. Was making 340 at the wheels in that thing ran it HARD for about 120k miles and 2 years. Miss her :( but I'm gonna do something cool with this 98. Never had a 6th gen gtp 4 door only coupes. I think the 4 door actually handles better it really feels like it does.
GM kept Buick instead of Pontiac because of Chinese market but Pontiac was way better, it was super cars for the people.
Love the GXP! I learned how to drive in fwd Buicks with the 3800 series 2(best obd2 v6 GM ever made in my opinion) Always been a fan of big 4 door sleepers!
My buddy had a Boniville GXP with the Northstar v8. That thing hurt a lot of feelings 😂
Dope AF ride.. front wheel and all she get's down..great content as always bro.. stay up and blessed my good people..🤜🏼🤛🏼🦾🦿
I will take the GXP. Keep in mind the 5.3 LS4 engine is all aliminum and is actually 323ci not 325. It's lighter than the v6 in the GTP.
Wow, you really don't like Grand Prixs
So glad you finally did a vid on this
Never cared for GM in general but Pontiac has always spoken to me.
My friends mom had a grand am that thing did haul ass, red dash lights were cool too.
@@joesmith9216 right on, my dad had a 1995 Grand AM in the 90's and through the 2000's. It only had the quad four but I thought it was fast as a kid.
@@codereddew1539 Let me see....I think his mother had a 2002? 4 door, grand am, if I recall correctly, it was just stupid fast, his father drove us to an amusement park as teens he was doing like 100mph HAHA! cool car, I still like the 2 door grand ams with the testarossa style flares on the side doors, just can never find one thats not dead by now, those cars were never cared for.
I have Doug Thornley headers.. a full walker exhaust with full cat delete MF mufflers and tips.. that car is 50k in build behind mine. I have full bmr suspension upgrades with front and rear stabilizer bars.. BR racing adjustable coil overs.. 2500 precision stall..port and polished heads.. LS6 intake LS3 6.2 L throttle body LS7 Brian torley lifters.. LS9 springs..custom 4 inch cold air intake. ZZP polymer engine and Trans mounts.. custom billet fuel rails.. custom corvette rack and pinion power steering with custom resivours. And alot more...and e85 im michigan is stupid
Any UA-cam videos ?
It blows the camery and the Hondas away in the same class. Obviously you have no idea the classes for cars
unless you donuts and drift you cant tell the difference except better cornering on the FWD car
They made this body style with the 3.8 supercharged from the gtp as well! Great engines !
Got 05 bonne gxp sitting with about 58k miles on it. Need this video.
I’ve always kinda really wanted this or a Monte Carlo SS as a daily. They’re totally ridiculous and impractical lol. The styling on the GXP is amazing imo. If it was a rwd it would be a car I’d have to pick up. I just like weird cars. I’m getting ready to start building my 96 Thunderbird lol.
those 10th gen thunderbird are sleek, i wanna get a 5.0 one
@@ianscheurer yeah I want a 5.0 too at some point. Mine has the 4.6 2v, I love it. I like the styling of these MN12 Birds and it rides and handles very well. Hoping to build it into a pretty nice and quick street car. I have big plans for it.
Get a 4.6 one and put a coyote in it then you'll have a badass 5.0 lol
They look good with some wide mustang wheels and a cobra r mustang style hood it makes them look pretty mean just simple touches.
My dads 06 is falling apart but they 3800 v6 still puts down the powaaaaaaa
The transmission is absolutely terrible and the engine burns oil
True
Build the trans solves that problem
@@SsMike also true! The stock trans across all cars are the same I think except one was supposed to be beefier? Otherwise their all the same 4spd and once built their pretty good
Get a trans flush one a year. Mine survived 3 years on original trans and still drove fine with 150k miles when I traded it in
@@kyleranderson5557 the impala and monte has the worst trans the gxp has the better version which is weird because it’s all in the GM world. It’s like why don’t grade in the infamous impala SS and Monte Carlo SS two well know vehicles.
I had a 2007, it was awesome….flow masters, 2 Kicker L7s
Had it up to 162 one night on M-10
Gxp over impala all day
The problem is the wrong transmission too 65T 👉🏽wrong 🚫instead of 80T series 👉🏽right ✅
NOW I HAVE TO PUSH AND FINISH MY BUICK!!! UGH! Such bad timing with you being in and around Michigan. I will drive to you when I finish my boosted Lacrosse CXS!
GXP all day! Literally had the best options with that monsoon and tap shift! Oh and heads up display!
Grand Prix has a long history!
Displacement On Demand is the active fuel management system the LS engines have. AFM can reduce to four cylinders, two on each bank active and two inactive. DFM (dynamic fuel management), in the new LS engines (L84 and L87), can actually reduce down to one firing cylinder at a time. It has 17 cylinder patterns to use to reduce engine vibration, a lot of sensors and software go into it.
My son just got one of these. I was suprised how nice it is. Kinda like when he had the V6 accord its no race car but I found it way more enjoyable than expected. His had the trans replaced with a trans cooler added and DoD shut off in the tune before he got it so hopefully the whole front drivetrain won't have to pulled out any time soon.
@2:24 The LS4 was in 4 cars, the Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, The Impala SS, the Monte Carlo SS, and the Buick LaCrosse Super.
Also I have one of these cars, actually 2 of them, one of them is my old daily that was wrecked in 2021, I bought it back as a parts car for my new one
I’ve driven the buick Both chevys and now own a GXP it’s way better then the others not by much but it handles and feels better
Saying its crazy to have made this car with a v8 fwd is no crazier than ppl taking fwd Honda Civics and tuning the crap outta them to make waaaay more than 350HP. My wife owned a 2009 GP and it could haul the mail when you needed it too.
Buick had an LS4 version, too. I had an '08 GXP & I still miss that car. There's headers & a turbo kit for those cars, too. It's basically the same as a regular 5.3L, but the crank snout is 13mm shorter than normal to work in that FWD setup. But, the 4T56E trans can't hold above 400hp without a great rebuild/shift kit.
I had an 05 gtp with the some work done to the motor and trans and it was a beast! Used to take it drag racing on French road in Detroit and used to DEMOLISH almost every car that pulled up beside me. Eventually ended up joining the GPF car club and had a lot of fun doing so
I used to have one of these! It was petty fun! Big engine, big brakes, smallish car. It was nice.
I'm in VA and I drive a 2005 GTP with the supercharger. I've had a few mechanical issues in the 4 years I've had it, (replaced a transmission coolant line, new ignition switch, plastic coolant elbows blew out, replaced with metal ones) but at least it has never overheated like both of the Grand Ams I've owned. It's pretty peppy, but the suspension is a little rough. The HUD was broken when I bought it, and the cruise only half works. The rear wheels also have a pretty extreme camber compared to what I'm used to, so I go through rear tires quicker than is probably normal. I do like it overall though. I need to get it painted, as I hit a deer 6 months into owning it, so it has a door, fender and front fascia that doesn't match the rest of the car lol.
I love the look of these cars man, wish Pontiac was still around, would've loved to see what it'd look like today
The Monte Carlo SS was cool with the Ls4. I see those in Florida alot
I’m rocking an ‘04 Bonneville GXP with the 4.6 Northstar. It’s been taken care of because it’s at 186k miles and still runs strong.
Had a GXP for about 8 years. From 2008 to 2016 Downpipe. Magnaflow and mild cam tune daily driver. Put about 110,000 miles on it. Going to pick up another one at some point for the collection. Maybe turbo.
Monte Carlo SS and Buick LaCrosse Super. Also you say this is your first FWD V8? Never driven a Northstar Cadillac?
This brings back memories. I owned a 2004 GTP lightly modded. But the GP really launched me into car clubs and that culture. Met a lot of cool people that I'm still friends with today even though we no longer have GPs. I'm very biased so out of all the W-body cars the GP is hands down the best one. ZZP got a nice bit of money from me in them days LOL.
GXP for me. It's low and it looks angry. I replaced a set of tires on one a few years ago and I enjoyed sitting in it. Seats were soft, but once you turned the key, that V8 reminded you it wasn't a 3800sc.
"Ope Bye" HAHAHAHAHAHA. I love it. The GXP is AWESOME.
I've always preferred Pontiac designs to Chevy designs (Aztek excluded). I'd definitely pick the GXP over the Impala SS.
My neighbor has both of those(SS slso, though rebadged a Holden of course) Had to have the trans in the GXP rebuilt. Sent it somewhere to have it redone with a few upgrades. Just got it back, the trans..... he seems satisfied