Are the Bears instant contenders with Caleb and Odunze? | NFL | SPEAK
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- The Chicago Bears selected Caleb Williams and Rome Odunze with their 1st and 9th overall picks. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy, and Dave Helman discuss the Bears round 1 class and if it’ll make them instant contenders.
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Joy keep that same energy you said they wasnt a week ago
Facts 💯
Then new information was presented and her mind changed 🙄🙄
She said that was too much pressure to put on Caleb.
@@RIPToriyamaDBZlies - women never change their minds 😅
Almost like that was BEFORE the draft.
Never forget, Lovie gets to live rent free in Chicago forever
Houston should build a statue for him
@@portillo64ifyI’ll pitch in
@@portillo64ify why?
@@rafaelisslaam1894think if they were picking first they’d pick young instead of stroud
He was good in the chi before he did what he did in Houston
They hate for the Bears to be good
People are in shock. Panthers gifted them this situation. Now Caleb doesn’t go to a horrific bad team like most number 1 picks do. Poor Fields gotta be mad. Y’all draft Rome, got swift/allen/moore. Easiest bears QB path since they had their mean 80’s defense. No playoffs win since 2011, they can hope again now. They gonna be entertaining asf.
I've seen lots of Chicago Bear haters on social media, I think it's from politics also, it seems to be a biased towards Chicago
It’s not “hate” to be skeptical of a poorly ran franchise lmao
@@krisnaneruda186 this is the first bears QB coming into a decent situation in decades lol
I agree, Chicago haters
Now Joy saying they're a playoff contending when a week ago she said the opposite 💀
New information creates new dialog
New information? Haha. I think most people knew how the draft was gonna go down.
@@ChrisCurrie-qn2pgabsolutely you see the curveball’s after curveball’s. 😂 it’s so funny seems like we’ll be the team to beat!
bro there are 16 teams in a conference 7 of them make the playoffs so yes a lot of teams could make it
The odunze pick really swayed joy ig
Before when we had JF1 it was Caleb is a generational talent and had all the best things to say, now they all dialing back
They hyped him up to be Brady 2.0 in his rookie season. When he gets nowhere near that the narrative will change to how the Bear "FANS" hyped him up too much!
Thank you! It's all narrative driven for clicks and engagement.
No, they're saying that the rookie year isn't a sure thing for a generational player making the transition to the NFL.
Peyton Manning was at LEAST 10X better than Paul Justin, the Colts QB in '97, but the team still took a step back his rookie year.
@keahilanil3469 Peyton Manning didn't come into a team that had 7 wins and a loaded roster. No rookie qb has ever come into a great situation like this. Expectation should be more than 7 wins. If they can't get that done, this is a failure. Point blank period!
@@LesProntopreach
Shady was one Caleb nuts when we had fields , now he on some mediocre BS with my team
*on
Then he just said he don’t know if Caleb is better than Justin cause he’s a rookie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Man I'm excited for Chicago fans.....having three #1 recievers is crazy.
Facts...😅
shady the biggest hater of all time
Didnt Shady say that Caleb was 10x better JF1 now he backing down his Take. I dont wanna see noooo bandwagon fair weather groupies fan jump on on my Bears this yr
You’re clearly lost. He said like a million times he just doesn’t judge rookies & even in this video. He said yeah he’s a generational talent. Just not in his rookie year. Bruh you’re slow af
Oh it’s going to happen we’ll be treated like the cowboys and that’s a fact.
Facts
Not a Bears fan but I'm rooting for Caleb success
@@mroctober3583appreciate that. You’re a true fan.
Honestly, they are scared to say that Bears will do good because they dont want to be wrong.
Exactly. They also pushed for bears to trade Justin. Now they did and they are lowering expectations so they don’t get criticized for advocating that.
Shady protecting Caleb from unjust expectations
That’s exactly what they are doing.. they can’t say Fields is trash and in the same breathe say this team not gonna be better with Caleb and all these better pieces , they are contradicting themselves
@@gclay3176 joy Taylor in a different episode said you can’t look at all the new weapons and put any expectations on Caleb, because this is the Bears organization and we are always bad. But she never said that for Justin. For him she was always yelling “10-28” and blaming him for the record.
Ok? Is there something wrong with having a sober opinion?
I swear shady has something against the bears.
Facts
Shady has something against the bears for sure. But he’s a hater all around. I try and like dude but he’s mad he can’t play anymore
We just have to win and shut him up
Agreed
@@ChicagoDefenseU don't dont worry, lions and packers smacking you
Having three #1 recievers is crazy.
But they couldn't get there for Justin Fields
Allen and DJ okay but who is the third one
Didnt need too @tobyjohn-kq8hr
So with this roster Fields only wins one to two more games? These guys are dumb. This roster is so much better than it was last year. They up graded two WRs, a RB, a Center, and a TE. They literally added 5 new starters on the offense.
Yeah and all that experience with a rookie QB that got shut down against top ten college talent (notice I didnt say NFL all pro talent). What could possibly go wrong.
@@Mad-geniusthey should've kept Fields. That was the fast way to the playoffs. They could've added all these players with him and more if they would've traded away the pick for more picks.
@@tanmayamin6515fields is taking no team to the playoffs
@@Mad-geniusMahomes was 0-9 vs ranked teams with some bad games it means nothing in the pros
@@tanmayamin6515The Bears also upgraded at the QB position
Dude in the pink has no argument just keeps saying things 😂
25tds, 5-8 int’s and 4K yards is what I expect with the hype Willaims gets and the talent around him.
4K yards might be asking a lot. If he actually throws for 4K yards, they might give him the keys to the city...
What’s Hype Williams got to do with this?😂. 🐻⬇️
@@amorizz5579 Given he has no injuries, 235 yards per game in a 17 game season is all that is required. With these targets, 11-13 drives per game, 6 of 8 games in Chicago before the weather gets bad, Waldron's unique play calling, this feat is very doable. I'm not going to say that Caleb will put up earth shattering numbers in year 1, but 4K is very doable, especially if they are playing in 4-5 shootouts against Green Bay, Detroit, LA Rams, and San Fran and passing a lot!
The bears have never had a 4k passer in their entire history. If Caleb Williams does it his rookie year, that would be pretty special.
Caleb doesn’t have to try & carry the team. This is a great hungry young team for him to come too. #1 pick usually goes to a bum roster. This is loaded for success. Bear Down
“ will caleb be worse than Justin”
Shady-“ idk he’s a rookie “ bro u CANNOT make this shi up. That man got CTE or something not even being funny. No way he said that knowing there are plenty of clips of him singing a different tune😂😂😂
You don't understand how they hyped Caleb up and now they are seeing the light. It was all for clicks during predraft. Now its time to walk the walk and the know rookies will ALWAYS be rookies!
FACTS
Fr tho 😂😂😂😂
@@nardoblackgate Mann what’s wrong w em😭😭😭😭
You can tell Shady has it out for the Bears. Somewhere in his career he felt disrespected by the Bears and he has held onto that grudge. I don't need him to say anything good about the Bears, but people like him make these shows hard to listen too.
There is no better situation a first overall pick has been put in. Guys like Lawrence and Young had nothing close to Moore, Odunze, Allen, Kmet, Swift etc. then on defense big time pass rusher in Sweat and elite corner in Johnson.
Aye I know he was a rookie but don’t forget the other corner 4 picks in his rookie yr is insane
Shady hates the Bears 😅
Shady a clown. His choice in barber says it all
@@OG_Smyle 🤣🤣
He’s definitely a hater
bears been grbg forever on offense, why would he bet on them.
@@OfficialSwisher does that mean you can’t read? They clearly upgraded at all positions. So because they been bad in the past that means that you cant read on paper they are clearly a better team? Yall be on here saying anything kinda like how shady barber just be doing anything 🤷🏽♂️.
This show is so up and down, they completely contradict themselves when they express Stroud success but didn’t think he was “ generational “
Caleb going to a team with Keenan Allen, D.J Moore, Kole Kmet, D’Andre Swift, and now Rome Odunze is Crazy.
As a bear keep that same energy
Facts 🔥💪🏾
This is one of the best debates I have ever heard in sports. Each one, person had stated their opinion, and shared supporting points. Well done!🎉❤
Shady is always against Chicago in any situation. Take that for what it’s worth
Yea which is sad because as a Bears fan the Eagles have always been my fav non Chicago team. It’s a shame dude is forgetting the number one virtue of the media is supposed to be objectivity
People are in shock. Panthers gifted them this situation. Now Caleb doesn’t go to a horrific bad team like most number 1 picks do. Poor Fields gotta be mad. Y’all draft Rome, got swift/allen/moore. Easiest bears QB path since they had their mean 80’s defense. No playoffs win since 2011, they can hope again now. They gonna be entertaining asf. 🐻
As lifelong Bears fan I really do feel like we gone be nice! And we have such an easy schedule imo. I’m happy man and fields will be ok. Dude got heart so I know he gone be fine.
why would he be mad. he has now paired with a great coach who's never been out the playoffs, has a elite defense now with queen, and gets to learn if he chooses behind wilson. blind man can see that he leveled up.
@@lorenzotheman1 fields ya mean? Because he had very little to work with. Not to mention GM, coaching change shifts all through his tenure. Caleb getting a much easier no excuses situation
You are right......plus Niners and Lions will regress....Bears/Pack/Eagles will fight it out
3:12 He said "The Dykings" 😂😂😂😂
Who ever says the Bears are a normal situation is foolish. Talent changes things fast. This is not just a change .This is a change in talent that the NFL has never seen before.
Joy Taylor agreeing with McCoy..... shocking 🙄
Those footballs between her chest good lord 👀Go Bears 🐻 🔥☝️
Brock Purdy (Only started 5 regular season games) and CJ Stroud both handled their business as rookies with teams deep in the playoffs in successive years. This is a thing now and McCoy needs to realize that the time he has been out of football changes have been made for instant success if you have a great team around you! Ben Roethlisberger went 13-0 in 2004 as a rookie QB and went to the playoffs. Joe Flacco also led his team to the playoffs in 2008, his rookie year! Russell Wilson and Mark Sanchez did the same! 21 rookies have been in playoff games as QB's in NFL history, but once they are there most haven't fared too well. This conversation is about making it to the playoffs and not how well they play in the playoffs! Shady has not done his research! Sanchez and Flacco both rookies lead their team to 8-7 and 11-5 records making it to the AFC Championship game, so anything is possible when that rookie QB is part of a good team. I hope and pray Shady eats his words!
YES YES YES! Dude you should be up in Shady's seat instead of that brain dead dunce!
Dope take shady a bihh😂
Williams has no excuse to not have a better year than stroud. He has the best supporting cast in that division.
Dumbest comment ever......you just said if caleb williams doesn't have the all time greatest season of any rookie QB in NFL history than its a fail. You sir are a total 🤡
Idk about best but he does have a solid cast and they should make the playoffs if the defense does their job
@OPMSportsOnlinee idk bro. 3 #1 recievers a top 10 rb, and a top 10 TE. Who else has that in the league, much less the division?
Buddy, Laporta is a top 3 TE in the league, St Brown is a top 10 receiver Moore at best is 10/10, and BOTH Gibbs and Montgomery are top 10 RB’s. He doesn’t have the best supporting cast.
@TEN21Portraits lmao buddy the difference here is that the bears best players will all be on the field at the same time more than the lions are. For example there 11 personnel is 100% better than the lions as is the 12 personnel. So yes the bears have a better supporting cast than the lions.
Everything Caleb does between now and the first preseason game needs to be about leaving no doubt that he is that dude.
Great podcast! I’m a lifelong Bears fan so of course I liked this particular topic! Also was very impressed with the cast! Looking forward to seeing more episodes!
I have to admit 25 your take on this one surprises me. It was not just a few months ago when you were saying that of Justin fields was replaced with Kayla Williams on that team. They would have won more than 7 games however now. You wanna say he's a rookie that you gotta be patient? This kid is being recognized as a generational talent. If we want to go off of that the last generational talent. I believe got his team to the playoffs. So I would expect nothing less. With the team that he's coming to.
Wow, did everyone flip?? Now they on us?? Nah keep that energy I told yall to keep! Like I told the sheep in Chi, if you ain't with us at our low, don't come and try to get high with us. We Up Bear Don
True that!!!!
Calebs been playing above is age grade, he gone do just fine in his first year. Cj stroud quality season🔥💯
I look forward to seeing Caleb's success and will be rooting for him. ✌❤
Bears are now good with Caleb Williams 🏈
You mean Caleb walked into a goldmine thanks to the panthers. Fields should be mad. Caleb starting with all that talent plus Rome drafted lmao
Fields with those weapons would be good too
and with Odunze.. hopefully their defense steps up
A good offense controls the time of possession which gives the defense time to rest. Good Off = Good Def
Joy they were already playoff contenders but you didn’t want Caleb to have playoff expectations so what were you talking about
Acho making the most sense here, and clearly hasn’t flopped on his position like the rest of these 🤡
The Houston Texans record in 2022 is 3-13-1. Their record in 2023 is 10-7.
It's definitely possible that the Bears have a NFC North "competitive" dominance. Given the players that the Bears have going into the draft, and now the players that they have added from the draft, I'm more inclined to believe that this years Bears team will live up to their potential and perhaps beyond. There is no doubt this team and Caleb Williams is a part of that reason why. It's certainly one of the reasons why he was expected to go number 1 and why the Bears chose him.
Plus, his favourite player is Aaron Rodgers, so Caleb's favourite team are the Packers.
I say this as a devoted Chicago Bears supporter, but I'm kool with a Green Packers fan "Caleb Williams" to help elevate the Bears and its diehard supporters to the promise land.
Besides, it was a Greenbay Packers player that slammed Jim McMahon on his throwing shoulder that significantly changed his ability to be the QB that he could've been. McMahon could ball!
Caleb Williams has a bit of that bravado that Jim McMahon had and the "psychotic" determination that Michael Jordan has during his career.
That's a great recipe for something special!
Im looking forward to this journey indeed.
It will be more than a "shuffle" it'll be a tectonic shift.
One can hope! 😉
Shady hates the 🐻. He can go to 😈. 😂😂
Packers is a young team too, they made it to playoff
The expectation for the packers was ups and down and not making the playoffs with a young roster and unproven qb.
The turn around for the Bears has begun just have to be patient a bit. The bears have broken my heart many times because things wasn't going in the direction it was supposed to. Now this refresh phase of the bears is something to be excited because of our talented roster now putting it all together and watching it unfold right is something all bears fans want to see. It'll all happen in due time let's pray upon the bears to shock the world and ball out
I Love all this bear talk and love it's a new feeling and I love it
Shady is hedging his bets. Now all of a sudden JF1 is an average QB with exceptional athletic abilities. 2 months ago he was a scrub 😂. 🐻⬇️goofy
😂😂
Rs
Instant contenders is crazy. Wild expectations for a team with a rookie QB. That division has the Lions and Packers. They aren’t gona just walk into a playoff spot
Bears were picking #9... Not #1... Y'all acting like there actually the worst team...
Until proven otherwise the Packers and Lions are still better scrub. Plus the Lions drafted a dawg at cb.
WTF?? Joy literally said they’re not last week when the question was “can Caleb lead the bears to the playoffs” she completely flipped that question to ‘will Caleb win a playoff game’, now she’s answering the original question lmao wtf
Fr fr the Bears had one of if not thee best offseason so far.
Dan Marino went to the superbowl his rookie year why cw can't that team is stacked
Went to superbowl in his third or second year I think. I don't think Marino even barely played his first year.
2nd year
If the Bears defense continues to hold up, I think Caleb and his new receivers and running back should be good for at least 3 more wins than last year. Not sure if 10 wins is good enough to make the playoffs though. But I CAN see them winning 12.
Here is how:
They split their 3 division games, lose at the Texans and lose to the Rams at home, that’s 5 losses.
Then they go on the road and beat the Cardinals, Colts, Commanders and my 49ers, who will be dealing with their Super Bowl Jinx.
And at home they beat the Titans, Patriots, Panthers, Jaguars and Seadogs. That leaves them at 12-5.
I can see that. Except the 49ers, but just have to see on that one.
GB got in with 9 wins. LA had 10..Bears should be good with 10??
If you think the Bears are going 12-5 with a rookie QB that got shut down by top 10 talent on the college level...I got some desert land to sell you in Iceland.
Shady’s take is so lazy. He’s basically saying he doesn’t think the bears are gonna make the playoffs just to say “well there’s a chance it could happen” it doesn’t make any sense.
I couldn’t hear what the woman was saying. I was waaaaay to distracted by her football size shoulder pads she was wearing. 😂😂😂
brock purdy with a loaded team he was a rookie
All these “ analysts “ and nobody brought him up. They even played word salad w CJ saying he doesn’t know if CJ can have another good season. This panel w the exception of Acho is a joke
Rememeber when calling someone "Generational Player" meant something. Its like every 2 years now someone gets the title.
Caleb Williams might actually be one though. At the very least he's the best QB prospect to come out of college since Trevor Lawrence.
@@williamkoscielniak7871Lawrence isn't that good.
Chokes
@@BigPlay1997 Time will tell how his career plays out, but I was simply talking about how he was as a prospect. The fact that someone is a phenomenal prospect doesn't guarantee that they will be a phenomenal NFL player. That's why there are no guarantee's in the draft.
Mahomes made Andy Reid Great. Let's not get it twisted😊
All Caleb gotta do is be a game manager don’t turn ball over. An from time to time show the greatness he showed in college. He doesn’t have to be Superman
That receiver room is insane
Makes me wonders who's the fourth receiver on their dept chart.
@@BigPlay1997 Tyler Scott who is just going into his 2nd season so he can still improve, at the very least a really good WR3 but #4 on the depth chart
bears own the NFC north
What ? 😂😂
More like the packers own the bears 10 straight wins.
😂😂😂😂 foh enjoy that 7-10 last place finish again lol
@@waynesonneman7343 packers time is over lil bro
y’all gotta think caleb and that offense is gonna be practicing against a top 5 defense every week.
Packers fan here, I see the bears floor being 8-9 and ceiling 10-7. I think the NFC North as a whole is going to be extremely competitive for years to come, and it’s going to be a lot of fun to watch!! GO PACK GO🧀🧀🧀
WILD! they were making it sound like Caleb was gonna come in and we would instantly be better than last season, and that was before we added Keenan, Swift, Everett and Odunze. Just wild... This should be called the Shady Yes Man show, they all just agree with his takes basically.
Joy switched up her energy REAL FAST! 😂
Great take guys!!! I dig it.
Love Dave on the show
It's hard to say contenders just yet ONLY because of the division they're in. The Lions were a game away from the Super Bowl and they've added some solid pieces in the draft as well. And the Packers also bulked up this offseason too, they're a young team who's also a playoff team thats already somewhat proven. And the Vikings could be a sleeper team. So will the Bears be better? absolutely! Will they be competitive? Absolutely! BUT it'll be a little more difficult than it sounds. I think they have a legit shot tho, I'm a believer in Caleb Williams.
I love how Dave is calm and just makes sense, like why is Shady comparing Mitch and that offense to the current offense
I think it’s better that they’re all starting with a new office because now they can all grow into it. They’re all on a learning curve and they will all help each other more. This team is going to be very close. They are going to make a lotta great relationships on this team.
QBs biggest challenge from college to pros is reading Defenses. So many great college QBs couldn’t understand defenses in the pros. Manziel, Tebow, etc…
As a bears fan I think we can be around a 9 or 10 win team. Compete for a playoff spot but not necessarily get in. The division is tough and we'll see how jj does in Minnesota. I really just want clarity at hc and the Waldron system. If those things work and we have a direction going forward I think we are golden. I just want to see Caleb, dj, allen, and rome ball out in a modern offense.
Shady acts like Stroud is the first rookie QB to make the playoffs
Shady's hate for the Bears never ends. They upgraded QB, WR, RB and return a strong Defense. They were a fringe playoff team last year. Absolutely they should be viewed as contender. A contender is an 8 or 9 win team. Their schedule is manageable. To sit there and say they aren't contenders is nonsensical
Can someone tell me if you have to crank the volume way up on all of their videos? why is the audio SO low?!?!
But also Caleb was working out with Keenan DJ and Rome before the draft that has to count for their chemistry
I can’t wait when the same season start
I ❤ joy Taylor so much ❤️😊
She is da bomb 💣!!❤
He called they * the jings
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
This gonna be the best season ever because alot of teams that be bad alot including my Lions will be good so it will be alot of unknowns and that's what makes it exciting
Coming from Chicago, I see the NFC north being a tough division. I think they they can all go to the playoffs! Everyone is younger at key parts, and they're all starting to draft well!: The entire league is getting better!
Keep the ball rolling
Again with these freeze frames again. I believe Fox just don't show clips. That freeze frame look like Madden man.😂😂😂😂😂
This is how players are boosted up before the accomplish anything
Joy looks amazing today
When has she not??
Lmaoooo I love joy was saying playoffs were too high of expectations literally 5 days ago
Everyone just easily forgets the rookie year Justin Herbert had with a comparable offensive team around him.
Joy’s expectation and capabilities take was good. And Acho disagreed but his example exemplified Joy’s point. His 7 or 9 games to 11 games shows that: the expectation is 7 or 9, but the jump to 11 is clearly what he sees them as capable of playing. Because if the rookie nature Joy was speaking about wasn’t presented, I doubt the floor would be where Acho put it.
I get what shady is saying, but he’s not treating this like the unique situation that this is. This is EASILY the best situation a first overall qb has EVER gone too, and by far. The only qbs that get to go to squads like this are qbs that aren’t good in cfb. Caleb was gray in college, and now he’s going to a team with great talent
They easily the best team in the league and I’m a kc fan . Wild
Wow I actually agree with shady I thought this day would ever come.
I think the discussion is reasonable. However, the expectation for Caleb is to be a 4000+ yard, 35 TD, 10am or less QB with about 10fumbles. The Bears should make the playoffs barring major injury.
Let's go Bears!!!! 🐻⬇️
Bears went 2-2 with a undrafted rookie. Safe to say Caleb can go over .500 with a top 5 defense and a repertoire of weapons around him.
I see the goal post is moving already
Just wait until the 1 game over .500 season. The goal post will be moved all the way to Japan.
Shady is low key sweet on Caleb he’s just acting like a 3rd grader who’s in love and kicks shins instead of being nice.
Bro if cowboys made it to playoff with rookies … why not have playoff expectations for the bears … awesome defense , AMAZING OFFENSE!!
Yes .Bears got 3 starters, most important position in sports, QB . Top rated WR, Odunze . BEST punter and in years, .Taylor .Who elseimprovedin NFC North?
Actually, Pete Carol should get free breakfast. At least in Chicago when he's here for not giving us Russell Wilson. LOL.
Sounds good on paper but chemistry and development matters a lot in football. Shady speaking facts.
They call him shady for a reason😂
Caleb is in way better position next than Fields has ever been in his entire career.
And we can't forget and give all the praise to love. He played a big part. N. R situation, but Seattle play the real part. Because they neglected to give us Russell Wilson. We wouldn't have been in this situation.
I usually don’t agree with Shady but I’ll hold my nose on this one I think rookies get breathing room either way!