Bears, Eagles winners, Raiders, Falcons losers of NFL Draft, how should Kirk Cousins feel? | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and Dave Helman share their 2024 NFL Draft winners and losers, including the Chicago Bears and Atlanta Falcons, who drafted Michael Penix Jr. without Kirk Cousins' knowledge before draft day. They then discuss how Cousins should feel heading into the season.
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Huh? The Raiders let other teams get QB's? Guy those teams weren't trading....how is that letting teams get what they want...
Raiders do need a qb to win. Cant keep going with trash backups. I miss DC
The raiders can't make trades when teams not willing to trade with u
Maybe….their qb wasn’t there and they drafted best player available. If they would’ve traded up to 7 and took Penix this idiots opinion would still be the same. “What a reach taking Penix at 7”. Smh
@@lawrenceturner5882preach !!!
They could’ve signed one in free agency or drafted one. They signed garner mitchew over Kirk cousins…
What an idiotic take on the Raiders. You don't take quarterback just to take a quarterback. Don't think they were interested in any QB's besides Daniels and Penix. Tried to move up to #2 but you can't force a team to trade their pick. If you don't feel like McCarthy or Nix are clear upgrades to what you have, why would mortgage your future for one of them?
The Raiders are notoriously awful at drafting. I mean awful. I can give a long list of why. You draft a tight end at 35 last year, you develop him. You don't turn around and draft another one in the first round. A waist. It doesn't matter if you have two tight ends unless your gonna run two tight end sets all the time. Plus if you don't have a legitimate qb it ain't gonna matter. When AL Davis was alive he'd always draft the fastest player on offense or defense at the combine. Raiders are beyond incompetent almost as bad as belichick drafting.
@@chrislong8559 "a waist" hahaha
@albertoesquivias6073 dude so what? Attack what I said and not grammar. True Raiders fans know what I'm talking about when it comes to drafting.
@@albertoesquivias6073 I hate spell check -_-
@@chrislong8559 A true Raider Fan here will tell you we did good in the draft. And we coming. Rock wit us or kick rocks Raider Nation gives Zero Fs.
Bro just named every team that was ahead of us that also needed a qb but said we let them get all the QB’s 🤣
Raiders beefing up the roster; getting ready for Shadeur
acho tweaking what qb that is left is better than gardner ,raiders just didn’t want to force a qb if it wasn’t one in the draft for them, just keep building the team
Completely agree cuz if they do draft high next year or a solid prospect falls to them, that qb will have actual weapons to help him develop.
@@bradbaxter3343exactly. Acho was just buggin here with his left field take on the Raiders lol
Im finally grateful the Bears did something that the fans can actually be happy for.
Right? Thank God we have Poles and not Pace...
Bear Down!
The table is set for Caleb to eat.
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🤔❓Why did the Bears need THREE WR1?? I thought Justin Fields was the problem with the offense❓❓ if Caleb Williams is that much better you don’t need to waste draft capital on WRs....Right❓❓❓
Falcons won big! Penix will be the best qb in the league when he starts at the prime age of 35.
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I must say…..
Well Done, Well Done Indeed!!!
Falcons with the long term thinking lol
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Raiders got a great draft haul, not sure how they’re a loser? Bowers is a fantastic addition to an amazing amount of weapons. They play it out with Minshew and AOC and if it doesn’t work get a QB next year in FA or the draft and you have a ready made offense for him.
Spencer rattler in the 4th round lol wouldn’t have been a bad idea to give him a shot
As a Bears fan, I can't remember the last time I have been excited for our offense lol
As a Bears fan, I remember being excited after JF's rookie season that we all hoped he would grow and be the "ONE". @ year 3 season opener vs GB, that hope is on life support. That is why we drafted CW, now I'm excited again. Poles should get most of the credit, he has a solid plan that is now looking better and better.
I’m an eagles fan and one of my best friends is a bears fan and I agree … this year or at least the future if Caleb isn’t great year 1 had good outlook going forward. I don’t think it’s a given he is just this unstoppable force year 1. It’s very possible it’s not a talent issue but it’s rare because the NFL is still the NFL. Regardless though, y’all had a great draft and the future is bright
I would probably say when brandon and jay cutler got together along with martellus Bennett
last offseason? 🤔
u guys scored dealing with Carolina’s owner being an idiot. their Coaches and GMs wanted Shroud… Owner wanted Young with a bad roster.
But you guys finally should compete for the playoffs
I'm sure LV would have taken Penix....ATL took care of screwing that up
Coming from a Falcons fan, I honestly don't care how Cousins feels
Which is exactly why the pick is so bad if he plays bad yall gone want penix but they won’t do it cuz of the money
I’m Not Atlanta Fans Idc How He Feels Either !!! He Not That Guy,No Championship One Playoff. Plus He Always Hurt
@@Durag__bandit98 who is y’all? I’m a fan that has common sense my guy
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Remember the Falcons means Fans , ALways , Count , On , Next , Season 😂
Acho wants the Raiders to pick a QB for the sake of picking a QB. guess what, they aren’t any good.
I’m excited to see the Bears, Eagles, Falcons, Texans, Dolphins, Packers, Jets, Lions and Ravens on the field next season
Dang you a fan of the whole league. Most people a fan of one team lol.
@@chrislong8559 I’m an Eagles fan… I’m just excited to see how each team looks with all of there new additions. I’m also excited to see the Steelers, and Washington, they added some nice talent on both sides of the ball as well… and don’t forget KC added that speedster Worthy from Texas… sheeeesh!!! That’s gonna be fun to watch
@@chrislong8559 Good one, that was funny.
Tru football 🏈 fan 💯
Dolphins will never go far with tua. Telling u now. Scheme can help but only to an extent. The 49ers are an exception bc they actually have a great defense.
Ocho with another bad take! Minshew is way better than any qb left in pick 13! I’d rather take bowers
Exactly, Broncos wasted a pick on Nix, they probably could’ve got him in the 2nd round 😂
The Raiders took their L, no teams were willing to trade. So they said ok, we'll just shoot for Shedeur, Carson Beck, or Quinn Ewers next year. So instead they got the best TE in the draft who nobody really expected to be there at 13, so that way next year when they DO get their QB he'll have weapons. Makes sense to me.
Hopefully they are the worst team and get the first pick in 2026. Arch manning
@@gun-nut 😂 we shall see
Acho....your a good host and you bring out a special fire out of the other analysts, especially Mr Crazy Work with the word play of you questions . Don't ever talk about my Raiders, especially when your contradicting what your saying. Big homie.
Talkin bout winners in the draft, but will make 100 excuses for these teams when they lose during the season
Yep, reality comes crashing in.
Raiders didn’t reach for subpar qb, after the top 3 none of them were top 10 worthy and Bowers is the best tight end prospect maybe ever and they got him at 13
A TE is not a need. CB and SAFETY is what Raiders been needing
We drafted the needs on top of a generational talent who slipped to the 13th spot. Because thirsty teams over reached for 2nd and 3rd day qbs.
@@JohnRaider98 Brother for some if it has to be explained then it's never meant to be understood. Telesco/AP got us what we need. RaiderNation!!
@@antoniomorgan731 that's right. RAAAAAIIIIDDDDERRRRSSSS!
@@martinezjames83 and we drafted those positions in this draft. If I had to choose between Bowers and Mitchell/Arnold, I'm taking Bowers regardless of need.
Raiders ain’t worried they got the 🐐in the building 🤷🏾♂️
Still won't win without significant defensive upgrades even if he goes there.
We had the # 1 defense when Ap took over as far as giving up points goes
Amazingly enough the Raiders did great. We didn't trade away our future and we filled holes. If it wasn't Jayden the Raiders didn't want whoever was left.
Every commentator sit up here and hang dak Prescott everyday about not winning a playoff game but the falcons is “disrespecting” Kirk cousins with less playoff wins ????!!!!! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
It makes no sense, but it's because people think Cousins is better than Dak. Plus, it's the Cowboys. No one wants to feel bad for the Cowboys
Bro... dak has 2. Kirk has 1. They both are absolute choke artists.
Daks been on the same team his whole career and surrounded by weapons. Kirk’s been all over the place.
Dave saying "I love the eagles" is my new text message tone.
🤣🤣🤣😭 As a die hard eagles fan I can’t front … I’m a Dave Helman fan because more times then not he will keep it a 100, one of the few Cowboys talking heads on Tv who can speak without cowboys tinted glasses on
@@aSTROnomical_8agreed😂😂😂 Fly EAGLES Fly but Dave is so clutch and his arguments with shady are just great👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Howie also picked up three additional picks in next years draft, while addressing immediate needs.
7:01 acho was so serious 😂
Its funny how Brock Bower was a top draft pick until he joined the Raiders then all of a sudden its a terrible pick.
How do they determine the winners before the players get on the field?
Raiders going for Shedeur Sanders
Raiders QB wasn't in this draft. He is in the next draft and his name is Sheduer Sanders
As a raider fan I hope your right shedeur nice
That’s what i was thinking as well but thats if prime allows it lol
No excuses Telesco said thry would be aggressive for a QB. And they didnt even draft a Rattler or Jordan Travis. They could have drafted a Rattler or Jordan Travis to have a possible starter that could be a guy to compete vs the 2 back ups we have. Yeah 2 back ups AOC and Minshew
@@toastytopics2614 yea maybe it’s hard to identify a starter past the first round of drafts especially quarterback
@@ronnellhillman7260 Righr but the point is, Telesco and AP wanted a QB and we know they either wanted JDan or Penix. And that tells us they know AOC and Minshew aren't starters. So they are around them more then us. So they know what they see in practice that we don't see.
They could have made a move for Rattler or Jordan at the least. To get someone to compete for a starter position because we never know what they could be. But we know they were very good at college and more specifically Jordan Travis. He fits the jayden Dan play style and only reason why he dropped was he broke his leg. But he has healed up. He was projected to go 2nd or 3rd round. That's how good he was. Go see some film on him.
So they just needed to take a RISK instead of doing nothing at all
I don’t feel bad for Cousins, he chased money his whole career. This is what can happen as a result.
Bro what? Isn’t that what every player does?
Nah......i would have had a clause in my contract if the Falcons drafted a QB during my 4yrs at the position......trade me!
Don’t slip in the shower Kirk. 😂😂😂😂😂
Who asked you to feel bad?
For me I’m not mad at him. He’s well taken care of in the long run. I’ll tell ya that👍🏿
How are the Raiders losers? They drafted positions of need.
Except the actual one they needed
They didn’t need a TE they have Michael Mayer who they just drafted last year
Bowers is a way better player than Mayer. The Raiders took the best player on the board. Raiders get hate no matter what they do.
@@wolfmanj12 but it wasn’t a position of need
@@wolfmanj12 BPA was Dallas Turner and OLB is a position of need. Bad pick.
Dont sleep- on
“The Guard Dog “. Minshew
These guys saying they don’t like the QBs that was taken then criticize the Raiders for not moving up to take one of them, none of the QBs taken have proven anything yet they may but not yet, Minshew whether they talk about him or not is a Pro bowl Qb
BAD BAD take Joy. The Bills had a phenomenal draft..one of the few teams that hit EVERY single need. They drafted high character players because they are so young but they are also talented. I'm kind of baffled by everyone's take that the Bills arent scary anymore. Not sure what this is based on...and the defense is in better shape than the offense is and the offense will be much better than people think...should be better than last year. High profile names don't guarantee wins.
They don't like this logic. But the Bills had a good draft. They just don't want buffalo to be good. They rather talk about the teams with the high profile names anyway. Let them sleep
NFC North is going to be the toughest division in the NFL!
I need whatever you smoking to even think that
@@jaylinnorris6285 It's my opinion if you don't agree, I don't care ! Have the balls to say who you think the toughest division is!!!
Lol
Agreed. Even if the Bears are terrible, they’re gonna be tough to beat.
@@anthonyslazas6413 okay you have balls and still sound slow 😂😂
Acho's take on the raiders is truly foolish. they could not move up they didn't have the draft capital and or the teams didn't want to trade down so what do you expect to happen here. Grab QB that doesn't fit your scheme or system because you need just any quarterback?.. Its so foolish. if he said he was disappointed in the Raiders draft then that is valid but that was clearly not his point.
Oh here we go another raider hater even if everyone else liked our draft your gonna say it was a bad draft get the F outa here
Washington is slept on their whole off season was really good Draft included 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
We’ll find out this coming season😎
Raiders going for Shedeur next year
This draft was way over rated especially the QB’s
I'm a Bears fan through and through but not all these QB's will make anything out of their careers. The Bears best Two QBs were Sid Luckman and Jim McMahon, i witnessed at least 70 QBs Bobby Douglas, j Cutler avg at best. Raiders don't listen to anyone build that team up, than get your guy.
Brock Bowers is the best tight end (weapon) prospect in draft history and JPJ was the best center in the draft. As a Raiders fan I’m feeling pretty great if we got both Kelce brothers in the same draft potentially.
Also Mayer has been alright, he’s not a HoF. People act like if you had Hollywood brown you wouldn’t draft Megatron. Lol
Seriously in history! Ok and as far JPJ I’m not sure. I think they will both good possibly all pros but ease up with all the hyperbole.
Bro. The RAIDERS been needing cover corners for over a decade..and fail to trade up for them.
They constantly draft OL and it does not amount to wins
@@macho8503 I gotta go best case scenario with the draft for right now, Caleb could be Manzel but Bears fans hope he isn’t.
I don’t think they’ll be the Kelce brothers; but if I’m going off best case scenario we just picked two major starters for a decade.
@@martinezjames83 Bowers was better at his positron than any corner in the draft. I trust AP to coach up the defense.
Legend has it…Joy is still trying to understand the trade out talk, from last week. 😭 Sit there pretty for the simps, they don’t care. 😂
Has more knowledge than you
@@curseyourself13stop Simpin.. lol. Nah she was better in first few weeks of Speak launch. Lately though phoning in a bit more, generalities and not always in flow of conversation. Not sure the deal
Speaking like this to someone with a doctorate is crazy
Joy was on point for The Herd and first weeks of Speak. Sucks, she got coached to play up persona or something. Not seeming genuine either like before 🤔
Joy looking beautiful 😍 I guess I'm a simp oh well 🤷🏾
this guy is clueless....let's go back to this piece and see which QB drafted outplays AOC.
3-0 against the AFC West. He scored the most points in a single game in the storied Raiders history. They had the number one Defense in the NFL when AP took over. Their first two picks were the best players in their position.
AOC would be a top three in this year's draft.
We deserve smarter people doing analysis
I hope Gardner keeping receipts!
Love Dave on the show
It will be slow going In chicago with this dude trust me on that
Acho is a Raider hater. Maybe the Raiders only wanted Daniels, and Penix was too injury prone. The Raiders went with the best player available.
Acho saying he is disgusted by the raiders who drafted probably the best pass catcher in the draft is dumb as f.. stupid comment.
Raiders always do bonehead draft picks. They always draft the player that has the most speed in the combine. You don't draft another tight end first round when you picked a tight end at 35 last year. Let your tight end develop before you waist a first round pick on another. Raiders are complete boneheads at drafting.
@@chrislong8559you don't even know how to spell the proper waste 😂😂
@ZomegJ bro attack the response not the grammar. Sometimes when typing auto fill on the keyboard fills in and I don't check. That's me being lazy, my bad. We almost all do it. I know the difference between the words. In any case for many years I watched the NFL draft with my buddies who are huge raider fans and they would always feel disgusted. I remember telling them when jawakrus was drafted they thought it was such a great draft pick and I told him he would be a bust, I was right. You guts have a history of drafting for flash and not consistency. Your team is incompetent just like the jets. That first round tight end pick isn't gonna help you win games in your division.
Who's going to throw to him!😂😂
@@ChrisB-zz8dh exactly
Wow Nolan Smith wasn’t even listed on the defense. Watch out for that break out year.
This show brings me Joy. 😂
Chargers had one of the best drafts but acho don't wanna talk about that
The Falcons know thier situation better then anyone else. My guess is Cousins isn't doing as well as expected with his rehab.
Keep in mind, some of the same people whiney about this were some of the same people being whiney about the Chiefs drafting Mahomes 😅
I can't wait to see the bears play 💯
no one wins until the players prove themselves.
This comment should be pinned to the top realtalk
Player = himself, not “themselves.”
Agreed.
(Published: Apr 27, 2017)
Kansas City Chiefs: Patrick Mahomes (No. 10 overall)
Grade: B+
The grammar police have entered the chat
DeCurtainRican=douche
The Falcons actually took a luxury pick last year too. They're rookie RB Allgier just had a fantastic year as a 5th rounder and then they take a RB top 10. It's like they don't have any concept of spreading the resources around. I bet that defense is horrible and they miss the playoffs because of it.
They picked 5 guys on defense on day 2 and 3. There's more than one pick in the Draft
@@Noah_Tindellexactly ppl act like it’s only one round or every top ten pick is going to work out
I think the argument could be they seen how many qbs got hurt last year and seen how valuable a backup qb can be + he’s future and they second best qb on their boards. Idk I still thought pick was wild but 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah 66 QB's played last year and I think the number for the past 2 years was like 130 something. There's so many teams that have 2 QB's and they literally just explained how valuable it is to set yourself up down the road for success using the Draft, so what's the real harm? We paid too much for what was widely considered the top free agent in the off-season? Or that we did the thing Drafts are supposed to do and secured the future of arguably the most important position in the sport? Kirk got money cuz he was getting MVP chants halfway in the year. We made sure he'd be willing to play for us because he and his family have history with the city and the team and the expectation to win now is perfectly in place to prove he's still got it. But injuries can cripple a team that is trying to compete (Jets, Browns, 2022 Rams, etc.) and a top 3 rookie QB is in your back pocket if anything happens? That's the stupid thing all of a sudden?? If it was any other team, I swear they would talk this up like it's a great idea and Acho did, as well as (much to my surprise) Skip Bayless and even Ocho
Man, this show was great.
Acho the tether!
I love the different views and takes on Speak this is a great show
The Raiders are tanking to be at the top of the QB draft next year,
My New Orleans Saints had a good draft this year. I’m really looking forward to see what Spencer Rattler does with us.
What is acho on
Lmao gotta respect how the Eagles 🦅 move
I cannot tell the collective intelligence of this group from the brilliance of the people on the View
I love seeing Dave back on the show. I know he's been on sparingly here and there, but this show feels more balanced with his journalist takes.
Hot take that people are gonna hate: Williams will be in the MVP conversation at some point this season. Wins ROTY by a landslide, and bears make the playoffs. Cam Newton had hall of fame Steve smith and put together one of the greatest rookie seasons statistically with over 4700 total yards and 35 TDs. Caleb literally has a superteam (offensively speaking) assembled for him. If he's even a fraction of what the bears are expecting, he should be able to put up some Newton/Herbert type rookie numbers. Personally, I'm calling 4,000+ passing yards, 300+ rushing yards, 35+ passing TDs, and 5+ rushing TDs. I think ints are gonna be the huge question mark. Bookmark this for later, I won't shy away if I'm awfully incorrect lol.
Steelers had the best draft easily.
Thank You !!!!
Without a doubt!
eagles and Atlanta made the best moves for needs and great Quarterback room
Stop 😂
No one on the networks said that 😂
Right move, wrong Quarterback. They should've taken JJ McCarthy. He sits for 2 or 3 years behind a high character, pro bowl caliber Q whom you would like him to become. In 3 years JJ is 23, which is still younger than Nix and Penix are now. You then got JJ for 17 more years.
Falcons had a smart draft . In a few months you’ll see
Watch anyone but Acho.... dude just loves the attention.
Yeah I shouldn't need a dictionary to watch his takes.
@@Lloyd28 he doesn't even understand what he is talking about because it's just to get people talking... success :)
@brianl6151 it definitely worked but it does erk my nerves
Joy dead wrong about the bills… WR position arguably the deepest position…
Cardinals got a the top 2 receiver and a top 2 running back in the draft. They did very well.
Reed blankership started at safety and balled out last year. This is how I know these people don’t really do research on what they’re talking about.
Nobody is just going to come in and take his spot
Balled out? He is serviceable to come off the bench
@@757CitiesReppa dude had over 100 tackles, with 3 picks in is first year as safety. Just stop talking ball and tell me you’re a casual. Clown
Two years ago he did Great when CJ got hurt, last year he was average
@@markchlan last year was his first year as a starter. Are you guys playing sl0w or what ????
@@petecolon162 He started several games for us the year before. You playing slow or what?
We beat mahomes and Herbert with AOC lmao
Mahomes yes Not Herbert he was out
Aoc had a better game than Herbert. When they played each other.
Bears looking good now! ATL amazing pick for a bright future!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
I do like the bears picks but I like Joys nails only. I like the direction of the Berds and even Acho-Tang suit today. Keep it consistent, because you getting no pass lol!🚦 Kirk Cousins played 8 games sacked 17 times ended up with ACL tear. No playoff W's under his belt. If the clock strikes midnight your at least left with Penix. not to shabby. Trent Dilfer won a superbowl... AOC, Brock, Tae, Meyers, Mayers, oh my! Go Raiders!
Im glad my eagles got some DBS. Slay and James was garbage last year.
And they're aging! Very happy 2 have some youth back there!
They mad Atl playing chess with Cousins with Arthur Blank money.
Dave is the emotional lady of the show, "BUT WHYYYYYYYYYY" 😂
Shady's shades are tuff! 🔥🔥🔥
Always pisses me off how these “experts” say how are the raiders supposed to compete with the chiefs, chargers and broncos like we didn’t just go 4-2 in that same division and finish #2
Howie got tired of all those “Georgia Dawgs” and went and scouted some actual players.
Keon Coleman will be a media darling this coming season 🎥 🍿
Oh wait my fault 😅…. 🍪
The Colts draft was awesome. Latu and Mitchell ❤
I think the Bears and Commanders had a great draft.
The Raiders fell short on their draft. They needed a QB! Brock Bowers was a solid pick.
Denver and Detroit quietly have the best met all needs and got great fits for the teams
It's a two year deal basically for cousins. He ain't gonna be ready come regular season and you'll see Penix in a few games no matter what. Plus preseason.
Even with a bum leg.....he's oodles and oodles ahead of the rookie......an NFL playbook ain't something to scoff at....it takes years to memorize and master a thick encyclopedia of plays and diagrams.....just ask any NFL QB ... how long did it take till they were comfortable enough to call and audible out of a bad play.
@@ck7cu If he has a bum leg he won't even be able to play and we'll see Penix WAY sooner than what everyone thinks in a regular season game. Second, we don't know yet what Penix is compared to cousins. It isn't like cousins has tore up the league or anything.
The Raiders will be fine. I believe O'Connell or Menshew will be a decent QB good enough to get them in the playoffs
Wrong. Raiders will only beat the Broncos
@@martinezjames83they beat the chiefs with a worse roster last year 🤡
I feel bad for Penix. He won’t get to start as a rookie, so he won’t go through the growing pains early. Then they’ll trade him or start him in two or three years, he’ll have to go through his growing pains, and they’ll say, “He’s been in the league for 5 years-why isn’t he better!” Then he’ll get benched, bounce around, and end up a backup somewhere
Kurt cousins is a mid level qb who’s 36.
How can you be mid-level and leading the league last year before he got hurt? And remember young guys get hurt too
What the f*** is shady smoking😂
Fr, bro saying he aint have a wr1 when he had Fitzgerald and Dhop😂
Shady is full of himself. He always stankin things up😒
As an Eagles fan not being biased towards my team, the Steelers killed the draft. A lot of good talent just went to Pennsylvania. Go Birds! Stay blessed chat.
Raiders are preparing the team for the next future QB next year. They are doing the smart thing, and covering all the holes. They’re looking into the future rather then now. By next year the team will have a year of experience with the new structure. From there they can go all out on a future QB.
Why does Dave keep saying he like Michael Penix over and over and then turn around and say that Vegas had him going pick thirteen and he agreed with it? Is it up to Vegas to dictate because if another team would have grabbed him before that, he would still be upset. Now if he turns out to be one of the better Qb's he gets to continue to vomit at the mouth and not be held accountable
Fields>Minshew for best backup
Saw one in the pro bowl and the other one ran out of town
steelers found 3 immediate starters too if those are the parameters...
As a raider fan I don't like that. We didn't get one of the quarterbacks, either. But I disagree with your statement, ocho. we all watched a phenomenal backup quarterback Nick Fole's win a Super Bowl with a stack team. I'm not saying we're going to do that, but I'm saying we can compete with Gardner. With a stacked roster, I think that is the goal as an organization right now until we can identify franchise quarterback
They can replace Acho with Dave …and keep james jones ! Acho isn’t authentic at all. Now I see why she’s always attacked
Acho is so annoying
Joy was on point, we couldn’t move up and AP refused to settle on someone that they didn’t love.
They actually need to make a call to Pittsburgh for Fields or make a call to Atlanta to trade for Penix even now if possible . Knock on the door and see if they answer .
Y’all always down on the Raiders. You think the falcons blowing their pick had anything to do with us not getting a QB?
If Atlanta don’t draft penix at 8 he was definitely gonna fall to the raiders at 13
How many times is Acho wrong
Just about every time his mouth moves
He ain’t wrong though. You can have all the best weapons you want but if you have no legitimate QB to get the ball to the receivers, it’s a wrap. You really think Minshew is capable of dethroning mahomes? I get that the chiefs are your rivals but cmon man be realistic.
@@bly7181 And McCarthy or Nix are? Rattler or any of the other bottom of the barrel QBs in this draft? None of those guys are much better, if at all, compared to Minshew or AOC to waste draft capital.
@@jmcg9329 But that’s a risk you have to take. You have no franchise QB, haven’t won a playoff game in years, you have nothing else to lose. How else do you find a franchise QB if you never draft one? You already know what you’re getting out of Minshew and Aoc. Why not risk it on a QB? What if JJ becomes a stud? What if Nix succeeds? Well then you missed out by not drafting a QB. The raiders are practically admitting defeat by drafting a TE and getting ready to draft a QB next year.
@@bly7181 This is why those who win at gambling don't make those kinds of uncalculated risks. If JJ and Nix are that good, then why didn't the Giants draft them? Or the Titans or Jets? Maybe are looking to run Daniel Jones out. One can argue that Levis isn't good (AOC started 1 more game than Levis and had 400 more yards and 4 more TDs than him). How long is Aaron Rodgers going to last?
Just because you don't have a franchise defining QB doesn't mean that reaching in the draft for whatever one is available is a good idea. Look at the Redskins back in the day. They traded the farm for RGIII and have been trash ever since. Maybe Daniels can change their fortunes, but they just got him at the pick they did. Look how Trey Lance worked out. If it was any other team other than the 49ers, it would never be talked down as the worst draft trade in history.
We don't have a team like the 49ers. We can't just burn away 3 first round picks and be alright in the end. Draft picks are your assets. If you throw them away when you don't have other assets to prop you up, you will be set back for many years, maybe even decades.
If Minshew and AOC are trash as many people like to think they are, well then we are in good position next year to get an actually good QB prospect without wasting years of the draft away. There's less competition for QBs next year.