I agree with fleur, hes just a great and versatile unit in general for single/2x2 bosses, also great that he has a global sniper chain, never regretted him since the moment i got him, worth all those 100 pulls :'>
A few things: 1) Eicy: should emphasize that the DEF ignore component of her equipment allows her to do respectable damage for a converter against higher DEF enemies and keeping her relevant for a long time to come. Also, she can proc her equipment twice with Istvan 2) Hiiro does well as an off-color captain because other elements also have enhanced tiles through A3 upgrade of their 5* 4-tile converters. It doesn't have to be green. The active skill is especially good in thunder team since Gronru and Beverly doesn't convert green and so her active can be used to tweak their path and/or set up a follow-up strike during cooldown rounds. Her main issue should be her relatively low base ATK stat 3) Because Michael does % current HP damage, it might not be desirable to put her in the last spot. Sure you get higher combo counter off her normal attacks but you lose out on the % current HP of the stack. If the boss has a lot of HP, 2nd slot should be the spot outside of captain. 4) I should remind you that Bethel exists for water and she doesn't have the weird combo Sharona has + those Frankels do a lot of damage and you can use them to launch long-range attacks against enemies during cooldown rounds by chain combo into them.
I don't have bethel, but I sure like her compared to Sharona. Sharona is such a good utility yeah, that tp is very nice, but outside of that I really hate her because of her chain. Why water have such a weirdass cc shape 😢
Fire: Eicy, Faust, and Charon/Sinsa. Forest: Nikinis, pact, and Hiiro/Areia. Thunder: Gronru, Beverly, and Michael. Water: Sariel, Kleken, and Carleen/Sharona (Replaceable with Regal later down the line).
Hell yeah Fleur is awesome. Being a sniper who's good at dealing with both single tile and 2x2 enemies, that makes him extremely versatile overall. He's also the best captain for auto teams imo.
Found your guide yesterday (the 'worthy low star unit' one) and love it so much! Instantly subs :). You're one of the most detailed / logic-based AS UA-camr out there IMO. On the side notes, it is a heartbreak hearing that Frostfire is the worst Old Seal since I like her art soo much and she's the reason I started this game TvT. Gonna continue aiming for her tho..
I normally support "just use who you like" but with Frostfire it's a bit different because it takes so long to unlock a legendary and the other three are so strong. I really hope they consider buffing her a bit.
You're the first Alchemy Stars UA-camr I've watched, and the videos out so far have been really informative and I like your style of commentary. Thanks for the guides btw, I just got back into A.S and man do I have a lot to catch up too lol
would also like to add for forest that migard is also an insanely good unit having the second highest attack stat behind mythos and is a very well rounded character (although i am biased as she is my favourite) she does have some downsides of course being that her teleport range is small however its only a 2cd active and does insane amounts of damage especially on single targets. definitely a good damage dealer to consider besides hiiro imo
Migard is fantastic damage with a bit of teleporting utility. Very very strong! I feel that Hiiro wins out just by a bit because of how detonator damage works and how many strong enemies take up multiple tiles, but I would definitely recommend people roll on Migard banners as well! I wanted to keep this video down to one strong unit for each element or else it could easily become 40 minutes to an hours lol. I might do a follow-up recommendation video sometime though because Fire has other units worth mentioning as well like Gram and Novio.
For Sinsa VS Charon i will say it simply like this Sinsa is built for pure damage and in semi contrast Charon has his utility due to his Tile reset and Push and pull
Haven't gotten Sinsa, but I make ample use of Charon. I'd say he's a better unit against bosses because of his extra def-ignoring damage on noral attacks, his 2-cluster detonator chain and his ability not only dealing good damage but also resetting tiles on the way, which can be helpful when dealing with locked or broken tiles.
i really like hiiro.. she's my converter detonator captain.. just really adds versatility and makes me connect to the tiles away from the tiles im on.. i dun have many aurorians currently but with her, i dun need to teleport and just do with what i have on the board..
Was looking for this comment. Bethel’s two Frankels that aoe/single target with each active skill cast, on top of them attacking when she chains as captain, make her unbelievably bursty. Full chain she dumps hard on bosses, moreso with characters on low active CDs. Definitely an underrated 6 star
:) started the game 2 days ago ^-^ rerolled for 1 hour and got very lucki :) eicy + charon and faust ^-^ theeen realized sinsa banner comes up xD ... after getting HIIRO XDD as pitty... ( the best pitty you can get i know xD ) i got Sinsa xD ... now stacking up my reccources for a uriel/novia or gram and ye just enyjoing the game i like it very much xD and i am very happy cuz i think i got one of the best starts a player can get xD rocking now Sinsa/Charon/Faust/Eicy and Brock ... and also got Hiiro/areia uriah and i think 1 more but i forgot her name xd so getting Pact now so i have a functionating Forest team for the future
@@kuronia6698 At 50 pulls, if u haven't gotten a 6*, the percentage of obtaining one increases by a 2,5% every single pull. So, at your 60 pull you should be at 27% chance of pulling a 6*. No matter if you do multis, the percentage applies only to one 6* (no way of getting more 6* by pulling multis at a high percentage amount.) New pity system now guarantees you to get a featured 6* after getting two off banner 6*. That pity carries to the next same type of banner that appears (ex: featured banner pity carries to the next featured banner (or banners, if there's more than 1 featured banner they both will share the pity and percentages system.) So, pity is: two off banner 6* (if you lose the 50% of featured twice), the third will be a guaranteed featured 6*.
Adding on to this, examples of teams? As is, who are the BEST DPS units for each element and what characters synergize well with them? I'm having trouble doing so. Also, what do I prioritize doing with my prisms?
@@instantwong early game I would suggest building a solid single team to carry for content and events. Outside of that work on equipment, a lot of players under level their equips and it is a mistake. Then anything leftover farm for exp mats in resource or farm stages for higher rarity ascension drops if you have plenty of nightium/exp/sublime. I should say that until your colossus is maxed I would farm for that first. Good luck!
What I love about AS is that the challenges really encourage creative team-building to overcome them and even your core teams of each element will have a bench of three to five units that you swap in and out depending on the situation. Some units have team synergy like Hiiro with enhanced tiles or Bethel with low cooldown skills, but more often you're looking at the enemy abilities and trying to counter those. If you haven't seen them yet I have a guide to strong 4 and 5 star units that would pair well with these units: ua-cam.com/video/ncd8Uf1T0as/v-deo.html and a team-building guide to understanding the roles in a well-balanced team: ua-cam.com/video/FeZTzfdfSFo/v-deo.html Hopefully they can help you work with what you have!
I currenty rerolled three times in the game. First account got Gronru and Leona. Second one got Eicy and Schuarz(the old cool guy). The third one got Sariel and Hydrad. I'm planning on sticking with the Water one since all of the units I got there including the 4 stars are all water. Or should I reroll and try to get another unit? Any tips would be helpful!
Yes looks like a promising start for water Invest in vice as she is very good Invest decently in sariel and hydrad Invest a minimun in mrs blanc until you finish stage five where you can get the cross converter for water(Barton) As for your captain who you will need max investment normally would be any good 6 star detonator (If you don't get any, max invest on vice then use chloe until any other alternative)
I don’t have Charon but I do have Sinsa and I love him. I originally wanted Eve when they still had both on the same banner (thank god that went away) and I was initially disappointed to get him over her but several months later I am very happy with how that ended up. I chose requiem first to pair with Michael and now I’m working on Regal. I have Hiiro at BT3 and she might be my favorite unit secondary to Gronru… Christmas skin may never come off my home screen…. Good video keep it up!! Side note: did you do any reviews of the collab units or the free unit from the last event? Seems there is a serious lack of content for some of this stuff.
I haven't been doing reviews yet, but I might in the future. I work full-time and so I can't always keep up with time sensitive content at the moment. Even this video took a bit of extra focus to make before the Sinsa RRR banner started lol. The community is still young so hopefully more content creators start popping up.
I'm 1-week player and so far have been focused on building Forest team up. However I do want to be on the lookout for outstanding non-forest units to build around eventually. Charon is upcoming and he's community favorite. But do you think I should just save for Sinsa? I mean even if I do get Charon, I won't use him anytime soon. As f2p it'll take me a while to build Forest as it is, but I don't want to skip on outstanding units, but at the same time I don't want to pull for units that will be less effective over time (due to power creep/better alternatives/etc). Recommendation?
I always recommend that any new accounts roll on any and every decent banner so you can build up your collection of strong 5 stars. Charon would be a great banner to roll on even if you won't use him right away. You will use him eventually and you'll get other units, heartstones, and star gems along the way. I feel general account building is more important than specific unit targeting until you have a decent team of each element.
Preempt behind MBT is the norm for great converters like column converters and Irridon tho. Even if you're a f2p, saving up yellow flares for irridon/Carleen/Hedy MBT is worth it imo, IF said converter is your main color converter. If not, don't bother and just pulls for units that you lack. It is simply because converters like Irridon and Carleen/hedy are just that strong at preempt.
Maybe I should have been clearer but I was reviewing the breakthroughs not as part of the overall unit review but so people could make educated choices on when to pursue dupes. Mbt pre-emp does hurt Sharona because you'd really like that on her, but mbt Michael hurts a little less because her bt3 is so good.
@@rayneforresy640 certainly it's part of planning, I just personally dislike gating great upgrades behind dupes. I mean there's no pvp so it's not like it's gonna affect the experience as significantly as a game with pvp. And don't get me wrong, I love alchemy stars and even with that flaw (in my eyes), I'll keep playing and maybe even spend for skins xD
@@bondboy8 ah man it wasn't a knock on your video, sorry I should have said that xD I just personally dislike gating good stuff behind dupes. But no pvp so it's no biggie. Love the game and I enjoyed your video.
No no no it was a great point to bring up and these kind of discussion are good to have. I've only played two other gachas and I am glad this system is somewhere between Arknights (where dupes meant almost nothing and felt bad to get) and Genshin Impact (where some units were only good with multiple dupes) but it's a hard system to balance out so that everyone has a good experience. I believe that for all non-convertor units, dupes just let the unit do what they already do better, but there may be exceptions like Michael whose bt3 adds a whole new mechanic. Pre-emp is really really nice, don't get me wrong, but it's maybe one more use of the ability overall and mostly just helps out timing the ability with others. Breakthroughs are massive for conversion units though because an extra tile or one less turn of cooldown can add multiple additional aurora times to a run.
Hiiro isn't that much more. Grass has: better detonator's like Beryl, a Lot of snipers better like Paloma, Migard and Mythos (The stronger of The game), lots of suply fantastic like Louise and Lucoa, and incredible converters like Hedy (that converts, teleport and do so much damage than Hiiro), Sikare and Gabriel. If you plan to have one of The bests in your team of ALL kinds, whats The position of Hiiro? Exactly... None.
Interesting, I'm not sure why. All I can think is that they both do % current HP damage and so whoever goes second would do less overall damage, but it's still %hp which is massive damage versus certain targets like bosses.
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I agree with fleur, hes just a great and versatile unit in general for single/2x2 bosses, also great that he has a global sniper chain, never regretted him since the moment i got him, worth all those 100 pulls :'>
A few things:
1) Eicy: should emphasize that the DEF ignore component of her equipment allows her to do respectable damage for a converter against higher DEF enemies and keeping her relevant for a long time to come. Also, she can proc her equipment twice with Istvan
2) Hiiro does well as an off-color captain because other elements also have enhanced tiles through A3 upgrade of their 5* 4-tile converters. It doesn't have to be green. The active skill is especially good in thunder team since Gronru and Beverly doesn't convert green and so her active can be used to tweak their path and/or set up a follow-up strike during cooldown rounds. Her main issue should be her relatively low base ATK stat
3) Because Michael does % current HP damage, it might not be desirable to put her in the last spot. Sure you get higher combo counter off her normal attacks but you lose out on the % current HP of the stack. If the boss has a lot of HP, 2nd slot should be the spot outside of captain.
4) I should remind you that Bethel exists for water and she doesn't have the weird combo Sharona has + those Frankels do a lot of damage and you can use them to launch long-range attacks against enemies during cooldown rounds by chain combo into them.
I don't have bethel, but I sure like her compared to Sharona. Sharona is such a good utility yeah, that tp is very nice, but outside of that I really hate her because of her chain. Why water have such a weirdass cc shape 😢
Great additional information! Thanks! I had Bethel about on par with Sharona in my mind, but I might have to reevaluate her.
Fire: Eicy, Faust, and Charon/Sinsa.
Forest: Nikinis, pact, and Hiiro/Areia.
Thunder: Gronru, Beverly, and Michael.
Water: Sariel, Kleken, and Carleen/Sharona (Replaceable with Regal later down the line).
Hell yeah Fleur is awesome. Being a sniper who's good at dealing with both single tile and 2x2 enemies, that makes him extremely versatile overall. He's also the best captain for auto teams imo.
Found your guide yesterday (the 'worthy low star unit' one) and love it so much! Instantly subs :).
You're one of the most detailed / logic-based AS UA-camr out there IMO.
On the side notes, it is a heartbreak hearing that Frostfire is the worst Old Seal since I like her art soo much and she's the reason I started this game TvT.
Gonna continue aiming for her tho..
I normally support "just use who you like" but with Frostfire it's a bit different because it takes so long to unlock a legendary and the other three are so strong. I really hope they consider buffing her a bit.
You're the first Alchemy Stars UA-camr I've watched, and the videos out so far have been really informative and I like your style of commentary.
Thanks for the guides btw, I just got back into A.S and man do I have a lot to catch up too lol
Tourdog has said they have plans to make the past event cutscenes available for review. Hopefully they do that soon so you can catch up on the story!
would also like to add for forest that migard is also an insanely good unit having the second highest attack stat behind mythos and is a very well rounded character (although i am biased as she is my favourite)
she does have some downsides of course being that her teleport range is small however its only a 2cd active and does insane amounts of damage especially on single targets.
definitely a good damage dealer to consider besides hiiro imo
Migard is fantastic damage with a bit of teleporting utility. Very very strong! I feel that Hiiro wins out just by a bit because of how detonator damage works and how many strong enemies take up multiple tiles, but I would definitely recommend people roll on Migard banners as well!
I wanted to keep this video down to one strong unit for each element or else it could easily become 40 minutes to an hours lol.
I might do a follow-up recommendation video sometime though because Fire has other units worth mentioning as well like Gram and Novio.
For Sinsa VS Charon i will say it simply like this
Sinsa is built for pure damage and in semi contrast Charon has his utility due to his Tile reset and Push and pull
And 2 cluster chain. Charon's the only one who have 2 cluster chain out of fire DPS trio. Fire is just obsessed with radial chain lol
Why not use both? I'll even add Gram to the team with MaxBT Maggie + Ishtvan
This is a pretty damn good video for beginners, using this video to teach some of my friends on who they should invest. Keep up the good work m8!
Haven't gotten Sinsa, but I make ample use of Charon. I'd say he's a better unit against bosses because of his extra def-ignoring damage on noral attacks, his 2-cluster detonator chain and his ability not only dealing good damage but also resetting tiles on the way, which can be helpful when dealing with locked or broken tiles.
i really like hiiro.. she's my converter detonator captain.. just really adds versatility and makes me connect to the tiles away from the tiles im on.. i dun have many aurorians currently but with her, i dun need to teleport and just do with what i have on the board..
I don't know why people trend to foget about Bethel! She's really a greate unit!
She's great! But, I still didn't feel like she was equal to the other three. Definitely comparable to Sharona though.
I think Bethel is great with other units that has low cd active skills.
It procs her frankels a lot. ^^
Was looking for this comment. Bethel’s two Frankels that aoe/single target with each active skill cast, on top of them attacking when she chains as captain, make her unbelievably bursty. Full chain she dumps hard on bosses, moreso with characters on low active CDs.
Definitely an underrated 6 star
:) started the game 2 days ago ^-^ rerolled for 1 hour and got very lucki :) eicy + charon and faust ^-^ theeen realized sinsa banner comes up xD ... after getting HIIRO XDD as pitty... ( the best pitty you can get i know xD ) i got Sinsa xD ... now stacking up my reccources for a uriel/novia or gram and ye just enyjoing the game i like it very much xD and i am very happy cuz i think i got one of the best starts a player can get xD rocking now Sinsa/Charon/Faust/Eicy and Brock ... and also got Hiiro/areia uriah and i think 1 more but i forgot her name xd so getting Pact now so i have a functionating Forest team for the future
Wait, can i ask you something? how's pity works in alchemy stars? Do you have to pull like 100 pulls and the pity reach or what?
@@kuronia6698 At 50 pulls, if u haven't gotten a 6*, the percentage of obtaining one increases by a 2,5% every single pull. So, at your 60 pull you should be at 27% chance of pulling a 6*. No matter if you do multis, the percentage applies only to one 6* (no way of getting more 6* by pulling multis at a high percentage amount.) New pity system now guarantees you to get a featured 6* after getting two off banner 6*. That pity carries to the next same type of banner that appears (ex: featured banner pity carries to the next featured banner (or banners, if there's more than 1 featured banner they both will share the pity and percentages system.) So, pity is: two off banner 6* (if you lose the 50% of featured twice), the third will be a guaranteed featured 6*.
I already have a good account but the last time i played was when fleur got released so i really want to start fresh
i dont think old seal should be included in reroll guide but its helpful anyway, thanks
I think migard is one of the best units because she is basically a 6 stars mythos and one of the best damage dealer in the game
Can you Do Team Buildings Guide maybe a round those units and if there can be any substitutes for the unit's if not owned for now?
Adding on to this, examples of teams? As is, who are the BEST DPS units for each element and what characters synergize well with them? I'm having trouble doing so. Also, what do I prioritize doing with my prisms?
@@instantwong early game I would suggest building a solid single team to carry for content and events. Outside of that work on equipment, a lot of players under level their equips and it is a mistake. Then anything leftover farm for exp mats in resource or farm stages for higher rarity ascension drops if you have plenty of nightium/exp/sublime. I should say that until your colossus is maxed I would farm for that first. Good luck!
What I love about AS is that the challenges really encourage creative team-building to overcome them and even your core teams of each element will have a bench of three to five units that you swap in and out depending on the situation. Some units have team synergy like Hiiro with enhanced tiles or Bethel with low cooldown skills, but more often you're looking at the enemy abilities and trying to counter those.
If you haven't seen them yet I have a guide to strong 4 and 5 star units that would pair well with these units: ua-cam.com/video/ncd8Uf1T0as/v-deo.html
and a team-building guide to understanding the roles in a well-balanced team: ua-cam.com/video/FeZTzfdfSFo/v-deo.html
Hopefully they can help you work with what you have!
People who didnt watch the vid:
"Oh those 2 are good!"
At least someone will think they are good ;-;
I currenty rerolled three times in the game. First account got Gronru and Leona. Second one got Eicy and Schuarz(the old cool guy). The third one got Sariel and Hydrad. I'm planning on sticking with the Water one since all of the units I got there including the 4 stars are all water. Or should I reroll and try to get another unit? Any tips would be helpful!
Yes looks like a promising start for water
Invest in vice as she is very good
Invest decently in sariel and hydrad
Invest a minimun in mrs blanc until you finish stage five where you can get the cross converter for water(Barton)
As for your captain who you will need max investment normally would be any good 6 star detonator
(If you don't get any, max invest on vice then use chloe until any other alternative)
sinsa is better than charon if u look for raw dmg. he shreds armor. pick charon if u look for utility and tile reset. i have both of them.
is there a website you use for quick easy access to a chart of all the character in game?
I don’t have Charon but I do have Sinsa and I love him. I originally wanted Eve when they still had both on the same banner (thank god that went away) and I was initially disappointed to get him over her but several months later I am very happy with how that ended up. I chose requiem first to pair with Michael and now I’m working on Regal. I have Hiiro at BT3 and she might be my favorite unit secondary to Gronru… Christmas skin may never come off my home screen…. Good video keep it up!!
Side note: did you do any reviews of the collab units or the free unit from the last event? Seems there is a serious lack of content for some of this stuff.
I haven't been doing reviews yet, but I might in the future. I work full-time and so I can't always keep up with time sensitive content at the moment. Even this video took a bit of extra focus to make before the Sinsa RRR banner started lol. The community is still young so hopefully more content creators start popping up.
For my 6 stars I have Michael, migard, beryl, and nikinis. Should I have micheal as my captain?
I started the game 3 days ago.. Idk what I’m doing lmao
I'm 1-week player and so far have been focused on building Forest team up. However I do want to be on the lookout for outstanding non-forest units to build around eventually.
Charon is upcoming and he's community favorite. But do you think I should just save for Sinsa? I mean even if I do get Charon, I won't use him anytime soon. As f2p it'll take me a while to build Forest as it is, but I don't want to skip on outstanding units, but at the same time I don't want to pull for units that will be less effective over time (due to power creep/better alternatives/etc).
Recommendation?
I always recommend that any new accounts roll on any and every decent banner so you can build up your collection of strong 5 stars. Charon would be a great banner to roll on even if you won't use him right away. You will use him eventually and you'll get other units, heartstones, and star gems along the way. I feel general account building is more important than specific unit targeting until you have a decent team of each element.
Having a great mbt for a 6* is a negative imo. It's basically whale territory or lucksack. Preemptive behind mbt for 6* is just yikes.
Preempt behind MBT is the norm for great converters like column converters and Irridon tho. Even if you're a f2p, saving up yellow flares for irridon/Carleen/Hedy MBT is worth it imo, IF said converter is your main color converter. If not, don't bother and just pulls for units that you lack. It is simply because converters like Irridon and Carleen/hedy are just that strong at preempt.
Maybe I should have been clearer but I was reviewing the breakthroughs not as part of the overall unit review but so people could make educated choices on when to pursue dupes. Mbt pre-emp does hurt Sharona because you'd really like that on her, but mbt Michael hurts a little less because her bt3 is so good.
@@rayneforresy640 certainly it's part of planning, I just personally dislike gating great upgrades behind dupes. I mean there's no pvp so it's not like it's gonna affect the experience as significantly as a game with pvp. And don't get me wrong, I love alchemy stars and even with that flaw (in my eyes), I'll keep playing and maybe even spend for skins xD
@@bondboy8 ah man it wasn't a knock on your video, sorry I should have said that xD
I just personally dislike gating good stuff behind dupes. But no pvp so it's no biggie. Love the game and I enjoyed your video.
No no no it was a great point to bring up and these kind of discussion are good to have. I've only played two other gachas and I am glad this system is somewhere between Arknights (where dupes meant almost nothing and felt bad to get) and Genshin Impact (where some units were only good with multiple dupes) but it's a hard system to balance out so that everyone has a good experience.
I believe that for all non-convertor units, dupes just let the unit do what they already do better, but there may be exceptions like Michael whose bt3 adds a whole new mechanic. Pre-emp is really really nice, don't get me wrong, but it's maybe one more use of the ability overall and mostly just helps out timing the ability with others.
Breakthroughs are massive for conversion units though because an extra tile or one less turn of cooldown can add multiple additional aurora times to a run.
Video title 'Who Should I ReRoll for'
Thumbnail 'Wrath' 'Connolly' 🤣
the ol' switcheroo
@@bondboy8 Found the Kleken!
atleast I got the best support sigh
Hiiro isn't that much more. Grass has: better detonator's like Beryl, a Lot of snipers better like Paloma, Migard and Mythos (The stronger of The game), lots of suply fantastic like Louise and Lucoa, and incredible converters like Hedy (that converts, teleport and do so much damage than Hiiro), Sikare and Gabriel. If you plan to have one of The bests in your team of ALL kinds, whats The position of Hiiro? Exactly... None.
Rerol on Connoly ¦)
Michael and Schwartz aren’t good together on a team I think they cancel eachother out rather than working together or something
Interesting, I'm not sure why. All I can think is that they both do % current HP damage and so whoever goes second would do less overall damage, but it's still %hp which is massive damage versus certain targets like bosses.
This game's 6 * gotcha rate it horrible! 6*10 pull, none!!
2% is pretty good tbh with early pity