Heromarine and sOs played eachother twice in the group (two Best-of-3s in the starter and decider match) - I watched all the games and highlighted the 3 best/cheesy ones. This is why the score is not corresponding correctly.
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much like proxy nexus its meant to throw off Terran builds, mess the placement of the terran wall to allow Adepts to shade in and steal mining time to get slightly ahead. Its not meant to win the game and yeah its a terrible build.
I loved that series so much. Jeff and Adam arguably had better chemistry than Artosis and Tasteless. Still watch their stuff, the Technical Alpha Podcast is quite good!
sOs wasn't playing to win for himself, he is playing for the protoss race. He successfully cultivated another seed of mental stress so that other protoss may beat heromarine.
While I'll never be as good as a pro, I don't understand sOs's thought process. He didn't cancel the proxy gates that were nearly dead from scv attacks and tried to build stuff out of it wasting more resources. Also, he threw that 2nd game so hard. It looked he just gave up and didn't care anymore.
Sometimes protoss get an advantage and go full zerg (very eco heavy) but it is risky. He had much more eco, but "weak" army or more like few military units.
How can anyone applaud SOS as a talented top end sc2 player.... The control and decision making of a donkey. How he blew that void ray match was comical. I see protoss players diamond in NA who blow leads like that. The skill gap between this guy and parting/trap is immense!! Kudos to heromarine for the calm management of such potent repetitious cheese loool
Yeah that first game was just a really stupid opening that Heromarine just dealt with and ended the game with a counterattack and pressure. The void ray cheese... he literally just let all his void rays die to marines when he basically had the game almost won.
@@andreasfritz723 I doubt we'll get 2 more global finals, mostly because the player base is shrinking since most people don't want to play against OP builds like this.
It seems sos doesnt care honestly cz sc2 is on a decline.. so making sm shit out of nothing is content.. + every sos game at these moments are only troll or cheese games.. if he plays his original game which was infact better than parting at many points, he wud rek many.. its just that i dont think he feels winning it anymore.. just waste
because it's a different match if you look at the text above the mini map, the first game says groups stage while the second and third game says decider match perhaps the second group stage match is not as fun as these ones, therefore SC2HL didn't include that
Not really, at 3:03 Protoss is only 2 workers ahead, which is considered little as protoss can chronoboost and should usually have at least over 5 workers more at that point. The SCV pull did cost him alot of mining time, but the proxy barracks, pylons and zealots cost even more. Although not by much, Terran with mules was definitely ahead in eco when the proxy is over, not to mention Protoss's tech was behind. sOs only managed to stayed in the game for that long because Heromarine got impatient and tried to counter attack attack which sOs defended perfectly. But after Heromarine build a much bigger army than his opponent, sOs simply couldn't hold and still lost.
Crazy behind in tech though, Terran is getting Starport while Toss is still on gateway tech. Also their worker count is even, and if P is even with T in workers they are behind economically. Sos is 100% behind from that position.
Yep, A move Voids - oh shields are done- click back - Autorepair - A move And he still managed too loose his void rays because of being too greedy. I guess the micro is ridiculous..
@@fckudave1 Yea.... after he became 2 times champion - Mother was re-worked and deleted, his builds - nerfed. And so on... Its just americans want to put their people ahead for a decade, but without success.
Imagine a terran dropping 3 barracks and 2 depos in the opponent's base, losing all the buildings straight away along with some produced units, and not insta "GG'ing" + quitting the match, but staying in the game for God knows how long. This shit is fucking broken, you have to be blind to not see it.
Bro what? He was crippled from failing the all in and then took a greedy 3rd with no infrastructure. Of course the terran wins that. Do you think just building based means you automatically win or something? If so just make like 10 at the start of the game with no units and see what your win rate is
*1 adept + shield battery > 6 marines and a helion XDD.* You has a lil protoss brain Luke, you don't get it but it's fine, you are just naturally lacking braincells like all the protoss.
Let me tell you that if you can cheese, fail and come out of it without a penalty to your eco, compared to your opponents screwed eco, something is not right Blizzard.
If you can auto repair a unit forever that is fast and extremely powerful, while the other guy, has to micro his ass of, something is wrong as well. And if that build is being used in all leagues because its so easy and effective, something is defenetly wrong. When a GM just manages to defend with insane micro + the toss was being too greedy, how should ppl below GM or M defend that?
How much skill does it take to cancel your proxy building in time when you have no units, and no macro going at all?? sOs is a fucking cheese joke of sc2, put him in any other race, and he would be down to silver league. Getting flashbacks of how he lost a bunch of 10 stalkers by literally shutting his brains off in the mid-game of being down 0 - 1 in bo3 against Dream
¿Pero por qué coño cortáis el video cuando se debe ver cómo sale de su base, y lo ponéis en el minuto 10 de partida cuando ya ha sucedido eso? Qué puto asco dais. Voto negativo por eso. :(
Heromarine and sOs played eachother twice in the group (two Best-of-3s in the starter and decider match) - I watched all the games and highlighted the 3 best/cheesy ones. This is why the score is not corresponding correctly.
Should probably pin this comment so that everyone can see it
I was so confused until I read this.
Would be nice if you could make highlights and not just replay games.
the sos posture is how i imagine all my protoss oponents.
Only in PvZ :)
They just have better tools
sOs dropping the ball so hard that the announcers also drop their mics.
announcers?
@@krioni86sa an·nounc·er: One that announces, especially a person who introduces programs, reads announcements, or provides commentary
thesaurus: presenter, newscaster, reporter, commentator, broadcaster, newsreader, anchor
Looks like someone needs some announcing
@@krioni86sa you okay dude?
22:04
Just browsing around the old videos trying to find one I hadn't seen yet, and boom, new upload. Thanks for reading my mind.
Honestly same
i legit am curious what a successful version of that build looks like. seems like an scv pull shuts that down handily, didnt even need the bunker
I guess these are the most successful ones out there already lmao.
@@Moe3ter lmaoo parting said on stream today he tried the build and it sucks
@@luxon4 basically betting on the opponent panicking and doing something absolutely stupid
@@hritabanroy6911 but this pro level sc2 there is no way sos is hoping for gabe to make a blunder
much like proxy nexus its meant to throw off Terran builds, mess the placement of the terran wall to allow Adepts to shade in and steal mining time to get slightly ahead. Its not meant to win the game and yeah its a terrible build.
If I didn't know better I'd swear I was watching some oldschool "When Cheese Fails" on LAGTV. That's what it LOOKED LIKE anyway lol.
I loved that series so much. Jeff and Adam arguably had better chemistry than Artosis and Tasteless. Still watch their stuff, the Technical Alpha Podcast is quite good!
Cool avatar! Loved that Eureka Seven show.
SOS just casually giving his opponent an ongoing heart attack from the comfort of his gamer chair. #JustProtossThings
sOs wasn't playing to win for himself, he is playing for the protoss race. He successfully cultivated another seed of mental stress so that other protoss may beat heromarine.
Watching sOs throw away that Void Ray rush was just painful. Like bruh, yer gonna win, just be patient and keep squeezing.
While I'll never be as good as a pro, I don't understand sOs's thought process. He didn't cancel the proxy gates that were nearly dead from scv attacks and tried to build stuff out of it wasting more resources. Also, he threw that 2nd game so hard. It looked he just gave up and didn't care anymore.
That massive throw :facepalm:
Interesting games! A bit of a bummer with the Terran win icon in the mouseover preview though...
That first game was wild! GG
who needs any alcohol when you can watch has and sos play Protoss.
Why the first game was not count ?
They played each other twice in the group.
So basically Heromarine and sOs played eachother twice in the group (result: 4-0) - I highlighted the 3 best games from the games they played
"Daddy immortal"
That was stressful to even watch, damn
0:39 Why don’t you just go for the pylon instead? Even if the gateways go up they won’t be able to produce anything if they are unpowered right?
Lol I love SoS
How did sos lose that second game
Sometimes protoss get an advantage and go full zerg (very eco heavy) but it is risky. He had much more eco, but "weak" army or more like few military units.
sOs' posture the entire time should be enough to show you how fucking OP Protoss is
you saw that he lost all the 3 games, right?
wow nicely played, gabriel
Big Gabe big cheek claps!
Why are game starts cut out?
Second game blew my mind the most!
Unfortunate the video cut out the part where HeroMarine actually breaks out, that would've been pretty educational
How can anyone applaud SOS as a talented top end sc2 player.... The control and decision making of a donkey.
How he blew that void ray match was comical. I see protoss players diamond in NA who blow leads like that.
The skill gap between this guy and parting/trap is immense!!
Kudos to heromarine for the calm management of such potent repetitious cheese loool
Ger 2 Times sc2 worldchampion and then you can throw shit at sos.
Yeah that first game was just a really stupid opening that Heromarine just dealt with and ended the game with a counterattack and pressure. The void ray cheese... he literally just let all his void rays die to marines when he basically had the game almost won.
@@andreasfritz723 I doubt we'll get 2 more global finals, mostly because the player base is shrinking since most people don't want to play against OP builds like this.
It seems sos doesnt care honestly cz sc2 is on a decline.. so making sm shit out of nothing is content.. + every sos game at these moments are only troll or cheese games.. if he plays his original game which was infact better than parting at many points, he wud rek many.. its just that i dont think he feels winning it anymore.. just waste
Nothing pleases me more than watching Protoss cheese get stuffed
I wonder what building sOs hasn't proxied yet in the enemy base
Sos use these games as practice , he wanted to test proxy and cheese. Don't think he was even taking hero marine serious.
Alternate title: Don't try to cheese Heromarine.
What's up with the score? Why HeroMarine's first win didn't count?
I was wondering this too!
because it's a different match
if you look at the text above the mini map, the first game says groups stage while the second and third game says decider match
perhaps the second group stage match is not as fun as these ones, therefore SC2HL didn't include that
i have very little idea of what is going on, but for some reason I've been watching a lot of starcraft games.
damn bro, proxy 3 gate inside opponent base and is pretty much still ahead in eco.
Toss
Not really, at 3:03 Protoss is only 2 workers ahead, which is considered little as protoss can chronoboost and should usually have at least over 5 workers more at that point. The SCV pull did cost him alot of mining time, but the proxy barracks, pylons and zealots cost even more. Although not by much, Terran with mules was definitely ahead in eco when the proxy is over, not to mention Protoss's tech was behind. sOs only managed to stayed in the game for that long because Heromarine got impatient and tried to counter attack attack which sOs defended perfectly. But after Heromarine build a much bigger army than his opponent, sOs simply couldn't hold and still lost.
Crazy behind in tech though, Terran is getting Starport while Toss is still on gateway tech. Also their worker count is even, and if P is even with T in workers they are behind economically. Sos is 100% behind from that position.
I don't understand. It's a bo3 so why after second game, HeroMarine doesn't win?
Check the pinned comment!
@@SC2HL Oops, I should have read before writing! Thank you.
SoS' micro is ridiculous
Yep, A move Voids - oh shields are done- click back - Autorepair - A move
And he still managed too loose his void rays because of being too greedy. I guess the micro is ridiculous..
@@theabstract100 I referred to the first game, where he fended off the first push against huge army with pick up and immortal micro
s0s is old. Also, they nerfed Protoss 2 times, because of Him :P
I guess he can experiment as much as he wants, also, who has the guts to do that?
Well, he is retired as of today, so I guess this was the last of his crazy build that we are going to ever see.
@@tigera6 Really? Didnt know that :P
Nothing got nerfed because of him. He is not that old, he is just bad
@@tigera6 glad to hear
@@fckudave1 Yea.... after he became 2 times champion - Mother was re-worked and deleted, his builds - nerfed. And so on...
Its just americans want to put their people ahead for a decade, but without success.
Sos just played cheap quick and greedily. Sorry but you can't expect to win in 5 mins on each map, definitely a recipe for disaster!
I've done this already
Spend 500 minerals across the map
Do zero damage
No worries mate were Protoss 😅
Why dont Pro terran players just lift up and move their entire base if they're getting cannon rushed ?
Mucho cheese el Sos este, se nota que a macro pierde siempre con los grandes. Salu2
Hahaha. Se la mienta: 15:13
protoss whats wrong with you??
WTF was that triple gateway rush………..
Imagine a terran dropping 3 barracks and 2 depos in the opponent's base, losing all the buildings straight away along with some produced units, and not insta "GG'ing" + quitting the match, but staying in the game for God knows how long.
This shit is fucking broken, you have to be blind to not see it.
I should play toss but not really tho lol
Amazing duel. :)
Define cheese
sOs : Watch and learn
I was just about to be sad about sOs retirement until that second game with void ray rush. F*cking toss
You can do your cheese and win against zerg, but don't try it agains other races
Protoss is OP.
am i the only 1 who dun understand why not just scv the pylon? the amount pulled shud kill the pylon with ease?
not enough surface area, could only have 1-2 scv's hit it.
@@wgkgarrett lower the depo?
Micro outplays cheesetoss
herO: First time?
my name is Protoss-Im gay
my eye sucks just 4marine and 4scv can end up game but he didnt
2 base Terran > 3 base toss XD.
Bro what? He was crippled from failing the all in and then took a greedy 3rd with no infrastructure. Of course the terran wins that. Do you think just building based means you automatically win or something? If so just make like 10 at the start of the game with no units and see what your win rate is
*1 adept + shield battery > 6 marines and a helion XDD.*
You has a lil protoss brain Luke, you don't get it but it's fine, you are just naturally lacking braincells like all the protoss.
AHHHHHHHHH
Is Sc 2 HL affiliated with a professional business?
What are these terrible cheese tactics?
throw
the balls on this guy....
I hate the BS probe stuff in the beginning.
Jesus....
Scv riot!
i'm so glad heromarine stopped that bullshit voidray battery cheese. that bs had no right to win sOs a game.
HeroMarine is not having any of SOS's bullshit.
Let me tell you that if you can cheese, fail and come out of it without a penalty to your eco, compared to your opponents screwed eco, something is not right Blizzard.
If you can auto repair a unit forever that is fast and extremely powerful, while the other guy, has to micro his ass of, something is wrong as well. And if that build is being used in all leagues because its so easy and effective, something is defenetly wrong.
When a GM just manages to defend with insane micro + the toss was being too greedy, how should ppl below GM or M defend that?
@@theabstract100 are you talking about skill batteries?
@@theabstract100 yes it's terribly wrong. The sole fact that Toss buildings build themselves, that's the most stupid thing.
@@geuros yupp, the batteries are way overpowered BS, especially with overcharge
all these battle are the same these days sc2 need a shake up with like some new units
The anti cheese
Now if Blizzard could pay its female employee's equal and stop harassing them this video would be even better!
Even worse*
Didnt get u? What do u mean? Whats happening
Really?sOs is a pro player?
I mean bruh you have already won the game.Why giving up?
First !
The female commentator is really good.
Who did the stupid editing? Great games otherwise.
How much skill does it take to cancel your proxy building in time when you have no units, and no macro going at all?? sOs is a fucking cheese joke of sc2, put him in any other race, and he would be down to silver league.
Getting flashbacks of how he lost a bunch of 10 stalkers by literally shutting his brains off in the mid-game of being down 0 - 1 in bo3 against Dream
Well he does play protostars so suck it noob
@@zeejustin6 hes saying that protoss is ez
These announcers are effing annoying.
¿Pero por qué coño cortáis el video cuando se debe ver cómo sale de su base, y lo ponéis en el minuto 10 de partida cuando ya ha sucedido eso? Qué puto asco dais. Voto negativo por eso. :(