Why The Ending Of Wano Was So Controversial
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Leaving behind Law, Momo, and Kinemon was harder then I expected. They were with us since Punk Hazard, and are basically considered Strawhats in my eyes! Even though I know we'll probably see these characters again. Sad Yamato couldn't come 😢. Can't believe Wano is really over, we've come so far 💯! Love the parallel between Whitebeard and Oden and Luffy and Momo. With Whitebeard seeing Oden as his younger brother and Luffy who also considers Momo as his younger brother 🔥.
They literally have been more with Luffy than jimbei 😂😂😂
Let's be honest. One piece is the most overrated anime. It only got famous because of these UA-camr "theorist". I remember them saying Wano would be the best arc but it turns out to be so disappointing. They probably worship the writer like their God because let's face it, there is no anime currently worth watching atm with the same caliber as the original DBZ, Yuyu hakusho, Rorouni kenshin, Inuyasha,, etc. One piece before time skip is great including the tv show, now the animation is just too dark, over coloured, boring and less frameset, and no context or humour at all. The writer also changes a lot of elements and plot which makes it more worse. The company is just milking money from baby millennial adults.
@@MB-gl3cj give ur fav anime then we will see if ur worth me partaking in arguing with you over the internet
@@MB-gl3cj Ur opinion is garbage
@@MB-gl3cj how was Wano disappointing? Just because there might be something you dont like doesnt mean it was bas
When you think about how she was an outcast all her life, she couldn't make friends or interact with the people of Wano, she really had no ties other that her Oden obsession to stay in Wano, now after obtaining her freedom and finally being able to interact with people and travel the country she spend her entire life in, maybe she decided to take some time to finally enjoy her time in Wano. And to guide Momonosuke about his dragons powers
But I like her gazongas ☹️
Still that wouldnt explain why even introduce her in the first place if she affects in no way the story other than being manpower for the strawhats
@@Hanandro-C yes 👌🏻
Maybe she wants to explore it more so that she can better understand Oden's care for this country.
@@Hanandro-C some people brought some perspective on that, if you think of her as the rebellious princess like vivi or Rebecca, who don’t join the story after but affect things in a wider scale later on there will probably be a larger meaning or purpose for her later on.
One of my favorite moments in Wano was Nami and Franky declaring that Luffy would be the pirate king. It warms my heart to see the straw hats declare their undying belief in Luffy and his dream.
The way I read the Hiyori scene is more as if it was a play that changed how the story is told to make the current shogunate look more heroic and validated. Similar to how Kaido's crew told their story in a way that made them look more favorable. But in this case I don't think it's necesarilly Hiyori herself that wants to give that message, but the people of Wano themselves. I saw it as some sort of commentary on how history is often told with just blacks and whites so it's easier to digest.
this is also how i read it
It's not that Deep, it was a weak attempt to show her character development as she wasn't the same at the beginning
The problem is that because it is shown with such beautiful art and dramatic flourish without any other contrasting commentary, it is not wrong to believe that Oda sees nothing wrong with that message. It directly contradicts Robin’s, Ace’s, and the Fishmen’s direct themes of their respective arcs.
“Thank you for loving me” is a cry worthy moment bc Ace was told all his life that he was “born to burn” by society just because he happen to have Roger as his bio dad.
Exactly , it was also a callback to her dad's final words "it's not ODEN if..."
@@raider_reaper_4194 yeah, in the anime it was muuuch more clear
Well Yamato did say “I’m staying behind, I’ve already talked to Luffy and the others about it”. Wouldn’t this imply that there was some discussing between her and Luffy regarding joining the Strawhats? It’s likely that she will join after taking care of some things. Probably shows up later in the story to save the day. Making her joining that much more impactful.
I like to think that Yamato's decision was a form of character development that is gonna be shown in a greater moment in the future. I think he stayed behind to protect wano, differently from Oden. Not protecting wano and leaving to fulfill his selfish dream was a flaw of his part, his failure, as he himself says even though he doesn't regret his decision. Yamato saw this and realized he has to do it differently (keep in mind that Yamato read Oden's journal), deviating from Oden's path and that's probably what he talked about with Luffy but cannot talk about with momo, for if that was the reason why Yamato wants to stay then Momo simply wouldn't let him. That one line from Luffy saying "I'll leave it to you now, Yamato" is a bridge open for that to be shown in the future. The way Yamato was built was almost a complete opposite from Vivi's, but although opposites, different sides of the same coin, so for the end to be the same for them would be a classic Oda move,. There's much more to it than "i just wanna do what Oden did" and it's something much more immediate than is Vivi's case. I think Yamato is gonna join very soon, it's not gonna take too long and he is gonna have a integral role along with momo/zunesha/pluton.
just like jimbe
like jimbe
Also there's the fact that if Yamato joined now, they would steal all of Jinbei's thunder as the new straw hat.
Ah yes, the Jimbei approach
Honestly I don't even bother that much about Yamato, I am more confused about the holes in the story that we were left with. Same as you said, Zoro backstory/lineage plus the consequences of the drug and the Grim Reaper, both defeated Yonkos are just there resting in the middle of the island?, and what about their respective crews?, Kaido's lackluster flashback, and all that to end in a few chapters just for the sake of rushing the ending of OP. I mean.. i still believe that Oda won't finish it in the next 4 or 5 years, and for sure he might tired of all this and just wants to end and enjoy his life a bit. I get that, but I doubt that he would risk ruining his own success story just because he wanted to rest a bit and enjoy life. The fans are more than happy to let him off for a few months if that means the story has no major plot holes
I agree
Totally agree
I don’t think zone Piece will have any plot holes at the end.. Oda will certainly explain everything.. It’s just, too much info has already been spilled in Wano.. I’m sure we’ll know of all these things later.. Like even their bounties aren’t shown yet, yk
I like this kind of storyline better, instead of explaining every plot hole in wano arc, oda will surely includes flashback in the future arc to clear things about all this plot hole one by one at the right time. It just add to the moment when something epic in the future happens, and oda includes flashback to explain certain plot holes that just connected well. I can just imagine every one reaction when oda explain it later, it will just make total sense later on. Trust the process, oda is not an amateur
Agreed 100%. Oda could go on a full year hiatus and I’d still rest well; give me time to read the manga from the start considering I binged the anime to 966 and then starting reading the manga around chapter 1000.
After your explanation Hioris dark twist reminds me to Fisher Tiger.
He also was raised by hatred and discrimination and couldn't let it go even it had save his life.
Hiori was the most time in this suppressed country by the side of Kaido and furthermore Orochi. Her hatred grew at this time and even after her revenge she couldn't let it go.
Yeah but that is still a massive departure from the kind of message Oda usually gives. Nami was equally brought up in a hateful and discriminatory environment, yet went on to reject it, adopting none of those personality traits. Same with Chopper, he was abandoned by everyone, but it didn't affect him beyond a bit of social anxiety. Sanji was also brought up in a similar, elitist and immoral household, again, didn't become a hateful person himself.
@@naturbursche5540 Kawamatsu mom was stoned, he, Inu, and neko were almost killed for being different... Maybe Oda is going somewhere with this, or It is just as simple as you say, they are scumbags :v
If Oda still has plans for Wano, I hope it’s what u mentioned. That the land of Wano hasn’t learned their lesson about discrimination and this could be a plot that ties into Yamatos devil fruit where it’s the guardian of the land and a guardian’s job is to protect and what she needs to protect is the people from themselves. Once the people stop the cycle, Yamato’s job is basically done and that could allow her to join the others.
That’s what I’m thinking of.
It still has. Caribou knowing that Pluton is there is one.
Megumi Ishitani gonna have some choice words for how her Episode 1,015 Yamato buildup got offscreened...
Ohara was THE FIRST PERSON I thought of when i read Yamato saying she is staying in Wano.
I was like dam " Ohara is not gonna take this well"
Ohara forgot this. Yamato or any character can express their desire non-stop in joining the crew isn't a guarantee that they're in. To be officially part of the crew, it must come from Luffy's mouth. That's how it always will be.
In addition, Luffy rejected her earlier when she asked to join the crew. Everyone forget that part.
IT WAS ROGERBASE FOR ME.....lol he was so happy about Yamato joining....oh boy poor Roger
He deserves it ohara ohara nomi user
@@solenyadnapa8191 He bet his channel on it 😂😂 Not even sure I want to watch his reaction, it’s gonna be brutal
@@frank-nx6vj today in "things that never happened"
I'm seeing Luffy's goodbye to Kin'emon, Momonosuke and Yamato feels more like the farewell to Vivi and all the other "Straw Hats in Name Only" characters they say goodbye to after every major event. Makes me even more confused about Yamato's role. So damn frustrating.
I have a feeling Yamato is a character that has been introduced as another 'flip side of a coin' that Oda loves to do. Just like Luffy is the light when Blackbeard is the darkness, Yamato is empathetic and loves the Samurai when his/her father opressed them. The plan for Yamato is definitely something to do with the final war: if Ace was the reason for the Paramount War, then it is likely Yamato (who wanted to set out to sea BECAUSE of Ace), will be a pivotal figure in that saga/arc.
Where do you find these episodes I am at the 1034
@@Faxeditz-_- its on the manga
@@susuuwu where do I buy manga?
I really didn't see Yamato's wanting to go out to sea with the straw hats as a dream, it was more of an obsession, and the character clearly needs to grow out of this before joining the crew. It would be kind of equivalent to Bartolomeo joining the crew but that would just be weird
I said that on Reddit months ago but no one believed that Yamato wouldn't be joining, somehow I predict things accurately then they happen just in different ways than I predicted.
I think most people forget that characters have emotions and reasons for doing things
You would think people would be more in tune with who joins the Strawhats because we didn’t get a new one for YEARS, so Oda is very particular about it. Personally never thought Yamato would join right after. Didn’t feel right.
I wasn’t surprised to know Yamato is staying. Ever since the reveal of her devil fruit is the guardian deity of Wano I keep suspecting that in the end she will want to stay.
That’s not the reason she staying tho
that makes no sense momo exists. i think oda just wrote her slopply so she couldnt join without a real good reason
Nope
She will definitly join but After She Discover full Wano
Yeah it’s not that she stayed behind it’s just the way Oda wrote it, saying every other chapter “IM GONNA JOIN” and then at the end being “JK” just felt odd
@@skullx7871 It sort of it
The worst sin of these 'celebration' final chapters was WE NEVER GOT TO SEE JINBEI'S TOAST!!!
I never thought Yamato would join this soon just because Jimbei had joined in the same arc. Having two characters join the crew in the same arc just didn't sit right this late into the game
man stop lying to yourself
@@syfall2p304 im not
@@syfall2p304 what are you talking about ?🤣🤣 make you re own opinion puppet
@@mrmo4569 I thought jimbei joined in the whole cake island arc.
@@leonglitch you're right. looking back on it i have no idea why i thought jimbei joined in wano. did i think wci and wano were the same arc? i feel like that's what i thought at the time, otherwise i dont know why i would have thought this.
thank you Ohara for concentrating my thoughts in this video. I am a fan of OP since 1999 when i was 8 years old and i really worry about the story for the first time. Last chapters were biased and the pacing was rushed. Usage of Shanks and Green bull just for promoting the film , while we have so many wano plots incomplete. I cannot imagine what will happen to Elbaf and the rest of OP if Oda seriously thinking of finishing this in 3 years. :(
I barely know the one piece plot, is it bad if it finished in 3 years? I thought this was the final arc, unless it would take that long to finish it
I completely agree with this. 3 years is around 150 chapters. I just can't imagine how Oda could finish One Piece in that short amount of chapters. There are so many mysteries that are left open and need closing and I don't see that happening in less than 200 to 300 chapters, so 4 to 6 years
@@Shaarae less than 150 chapters if you count weekly jumps and regular Oda breaks. Oda is just saying ideally he’d like to finish in 3 years. But he’s not planned the details of the chapter that far out. So most likely the story will force it to exceed 3 years
Can't believe Oda spent all this time hyping up Yamato to join only for her to not join in the end
yeah he overstretched the "subversion of expectations resource" This was a braking point for me, One Piece lost at least 10 points.
@@juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454 shush
Because she’s not that great of a character
Spot probably saved for Vivi
@@remkye yea same here I am looking forward to see her once again in the Thousand Sunny
The end chapter wasn't bad (although there were still some loose ends they didn't really wrap up like: Drake, Hawkins, Apoo, (assuming Marco flew back to Sphinx), the former Emperors & their crews, and etc.), [Also, looking at the chapter's flashbacks up to now that was shown of their journey together made me realize that a lot of Momonosuke's interactions with Luffy was generally mainly the two of them yelling at each other a lot], but not gonna lie I'm sad about Yamato not coming. If she wasn't gonna join, then what was the point of introducing her like this with her intent to join Luffy's crew anyways?! [Especially with all that promotion appearances for her like in We Are One and/or the 1000 EP We Are Opening special and etc.!!!!] Specially as well as all the great parallels (like her actually filling the "Oden position" in the Next King of the Pirates crew; Luffy-Roger, Zoro~Rayleigh, and Sanji~Gaban [and I guess maybe Jinbe~Sunbell]) and possibilities with the crew; especially with all the setup that they did for her for more than Momo, Kin, and even Carrot. And even if after her tour of Wano, how in the world is she going to find Luffy & the crew in the first place?
{Since we're in the final arc, if Yamato was to join the Straw Hats, now would have been a good time so that we get solidified time with her and the crew together before the final times truly draws near; just like Jinbe will now (and it wouldn't have been bad to have her join the same time after Jinbe officially joined cause the same thing happened with Franky & Brook)}
Bon-chan was a better candidate for joining the straw hat crew. I don't think Oda could have created a better character even with his magnificent mind.
I believed Yamato would stay, but I thought it was going to be someone pointing out that Oden leaving helped lead to the downfall of Wano and she should fight that urge for the time and make sure a newly freed Wano would stay safe.
AS FOR YAMATO
The whole "Being Oden" thing fell flat in the execution. It became annoying & glad that Oda picked this up too & can now, develop her character in the back ground before reintroducing her back into the story as a Straw hat. Yamato is adorable, minus the Oden thing.
Yea man I never really saw her as “oden” just some fan girl who could kick ass. But I think she needs to lose the oden obsession or trying to be oden and that will give her some good character development.
only thing is, theres no time to get her back into the story. If shes thrown out here, then shes out until the end. its just a big ass waste the whole thing. One of, if not the best arc in One Piece. and one of the worst ending of an arc in one piece, ever.
@@thelegendoflink9140 really overexaggerated
man she needs to stop copying someone and get a real personality she is starting to sound like dream stans
I'd have to agree there.
The Hiyori line is incredibly mistranslated imo. It says 燃えてなんぼの!! 黒炭に候っ!!! exactly like Oden said it. It doesn't mention family or clan or anything so I think it's meant to be singular for specifically Kurozumi Orochi as a pun on his name. I don't think it's actually calling for genocide
Yeah but you should only read the part about Kurozumi burning.
But don’t they say that line, then say the line people are talking about?
Ohhhh wow that's the only explanation I've found that made it seem better to me, because tbh, the line ruined the Arc for me. But what you're saying is she said it more of like "Coals wouldn't be coals if they weren't burned", right?
@@YourBlackLocal you know how Oden says, it wouldn't be oden if it wasn't boiled? the way i understand it ,Kurozumi can also be translated in a way where it can mean he was borned to burn, thats why in the panel you see orochi's head burning alongside Oden being boiled
@@emmettfrancione9468 Yeah, it's exactly like that. It reads like "The thing that makes it charcoal is that it's burned." It doesn't read very well in English but it's definitely not a bad line.
i kinda have a prob with the end because the ending doesn’t necessarily say they’ll go back to wano, it says, that’s all the time we have for today, while our ways might part for now, someday somewhere, may our paths cross again, my guess is after they sail all 3 islands and get to the closest one to wano they may go pick yamato up
I feel you misinterpreted the way "burned" was used. Saying they're born to burn can have a negative meaning, but it also can mean to give light or shine brightly changing it from a negative to positive use. It would be like saying they meant to shine bright or light the path. When I read that, I didn't get an ignorant vibe as if they didn't learn anything after 20 years.
I have hope that Oda-Sensei will deliver
Bro you delivered
Agreee😁
Deliver what? The arc is done
@@dansheshe8039 idiotic question
Feel like Yamato will go through the part of The Oden Experience™ where Oden joins the Pirate King towards Laugh Tale
I really got the same vibe from luffy this chapter when he was talking to momo like shanks gave off at the start of the series. Beautiful moment to see how far our Crew got in all this time :)
But man, Yamabro not coming along hurt me deeply...
It'd be hard for oda to write crew dynamic with an additional character.
Luffy rejected her in the first place when she asked to join. Everyone forget that part. Lol
@@Sky-bz2vq he also said he'd find her whenever she wants to join..
I literaly here to cry about yamato not joining
Thank you for putting into words my feelings about this chapter. As much as I want to believe in the great picture to come, I can't help but feel robbed after this last chapter.
I had thought that Oda had said that no one from Wano would be joining the crew. I thought I read a short time after Oda said there would be one more Straw Hat. Did I imagine that?
I had a different take on Yamato. I thought he was introduced to give Momo someone who could be fatherish and protect him, but who also has the love of Oden to share. I feel like the Red Scabbards are really too old to connect with Momo the way that I think Yamato could.
i optimistically hold hope that this ending to wano was simply to cap off the tale of the wano arc itself. as for the other plot threads, i could easily see them coming back into play going further. maybe big mom and kaido play a role during the final war. maybe zoro's grim reaper encounter will have affect on the next meeting with mihawk, maybe it has something to do with zoro's missing eye during his training. oda's set up plenty of threads before that still haven't been answered, so let's just see where he takes us.
Sure! A lot of intrigue at the end of wano, with things unfinished. Another thing that could conclude differently is the education that seems to follow in Wano of the cycle of hatred, perhaps it is resolved in the final war when, by losing the government for example, some countries like Wano want to "burn" the celestial dragons. Perhaps a great speech will help some countries to realize that enough is enough, that it is not about continuing with the chain. Its logical and natural that not all the liberated people go to have the good mentality as soon as Luffy saves them. At least, its what I like to imagine and hope for in the future
@@mostacho8251 i think that could also be where vivi comes full circle in the story. she's always trying to resolve conflicts as diplomatically s possible. also with coby wanting to minimize violence. i do have iffy feelings about yamato though. i think characters like her and carrot were kinda rushed outta the main plot to simply save oda some time now that he's entering into the finale.
if oda wants to finish it soon he will probably have some kind of montage and its gonna be garbage but at least the nostalgia will be there
I mean, Hyori had to endure the horrors of Orochis rule for twenty years, and himself directly for 8 years or so. (Remember, her disguise was that of an Oiran.)
Her developing a hateful and narrow-minded mindset in regard of the Kurozumi wouldn't be that far out the window.
Sometimes history repeats itself in the worst possible way.
Not to mention, Orochi is responsible (w/Kaido) for the deaths of both her parents when she was just a child.
Kurozumi means “black coal”.. she means this, not that the clan should burn.
Yeah, realized that myself by now.
Also that Hyori actually never said that, it was said by the narrator of the play for the citizens, and definitely an exegarration.
I absolutely LOVE Hyiori's line. It's absolutely understandable and to be expected that she'd think like that. And also for the citizens. It's the obvious thing to think. And that's why Momo has so much, so so much work to do. That's why he'll become the greatest Shogun ever. He'll be the leader to heal Wano's heart, he's certainly learned it from Luffy.
Ikr
Yea his whole “The people of Wano should feel bad for still discriminating” take was pretty dumb imo. They suffered a shit ton for over 20 years because of the Kurozumi. It’s kinda like how people today are “discriminate” towards Nazi’s
@@BallKnower except Nazism is a political ideology/belief system (something you have a choice of following), not a family (something you have no choice in deciding) - so no its not okay.
@@BallKnower damn, people legit defend this line and Wano's backward mentality. Stop saying that Wano citizens become a bunch of bigots because of their 20 years of suffering. They wiped Orochi and Kanjuro's family along with every other Kurozumi they happen to see. They crucified Cat, Dog, and Kawamatsu for no reason other than their appearance. All of these happened before their enslavement by the way. It's almost like they didn't learn anything after they created the villain that is Orochi with their own hands.
@@boboyogo485 No shit, the point is Nazi’s aren’t accepted just like how the Kurozumi clan isn’t accepted in Wano. I never said what they were doing is right I’m just telling you how it is
And here I thought Yamato might join the Straw hats and end up meeting Ivanko and taking her Oden persona to the next level.
I think the way the Kurozumi have been treated by Wano will be a plot point later in the story. The prejudice against them directly created Orochi into what he is, so the effects of the prejudice are definitely felt in the world. Can't wait to see how Oda is gonna address this.
But, barring any sort of secret clan member we don't know about, all of the Kurozumi clan is dead...
Yeah like that despicable Otama girl befriending a bunch of Beast Pirates. Burn her at the stake, kill that Tengu for helping a child. WTF Oda?
Can't wait to see IF Oda is going to adress this. A notion I'm all too familiar with.
Wano is over, it's too late to adress it now. Let's stop the coping and admit the "we'll get it in the future" argument is bs at this point.
@@emmettfrancione9468 brago made a good point when he said that orochi was 100% using his shogun status to lay some pipe to the women of wano and if there were to be some random kurozumi’s running around it would make sense
Yamato not joining the crew honestly came out of nowhere and it really broke my heart i really wanted her on the sunny
We got blue-balled by oda this is so sad lol
So is carrot going to shirk her duty?
I may have forgot but wasn't there supposed to be one more straw hat after jinbe?
@@dudeistpreist5721 yes we have to wait for 1058 but it very likely she'll stowaway due to her inconclusive ending with the minks.
@@stephno13 Blue balled LOoooooL
@@dudeistpreist5721 jinbei the last one
RIP To everyone who didn't get to see the end of Wano. We did it we made it!😢💖
I agree completely about the "play" and the message of "the kurozumi's will always burn" but I wouldn't count Yamato out yet. Either Oda forgot to show us her changing her mind or she actually didn't change her mind. I believe she want to leave Wano the same way Oden did, by jumping the last minute aboard the Thousand Sunny and then declaring that she will join them once again. Luffy, unlike Whitebeard, has already accepted her so it wouldn't be a problem but I can really imagine Yamato who really is the ultimate Oden fanboy doing that just to feel a rush of enjoyment for doing what Oden did.
Personally I never loved Yamato THAT much. I think she was an amazing character that was beautifully developed but I felt that Carrot was somewhat more goofy and would pair better with the Straw Hats. That being said, even though I prefered Carrot as the new Straw Hat I also believed that Yamato would join and I still believe it. I even believe that she will try to replicate Oden's feat by being dragged by the ship but obviously failing because she has eaten a devil fruit.
Anyway, amazing video with real and mature concerns without bitterness or blind passion but don't count Yamato out yet
I think its possible that the reason that the wano arc feels incomplete is because it is. I think after the strawhats get to laugh tale they will have to sale back to wano when the boarders are being open and the ancient weapon is activated. Unlike most of the other islands in the series Oda has made it clear that not only Wano will continue to be very important in the story but also that we will spend more time there in the future. I also think this is when Yamato will join the crew and we may get more backstory on Kiado because its important for the future plot.
If any consolation perhaps the anime can expand on the fallout of Wano; perhaps they'll hear some of the complaints trying to modify it to fit the story flow better.
@@calebmaybin6896 I was thinking that usually I hate the slow pacing of the anime but for the end of Wano they might nail it.
maybe the issues still in Wano mentioned by Ohara could put the country into a dark era in which have things that still need to be fixed. Then due to the civil corruption effects Momo in his young mind and he becomes some form of corrupt leader. Then the secrets revealed at Laugh Tale could send the Strawhats back to Wano to retrieve Pluton and through that return, Luffy can help get Momo and Wano on the right track again in addition to opening the borders. (maybe forming some reflection to Kaido and his rule over Wano, but the sides have changed as to who is in power.)
Factual
Luffy also officially claimed the island as his territory, that’s another reason for us to return there
A lot of weird decisions in this chapter imo.
Yamato not joining the Straw Hats to see Wano, passing up the opportunity she saw as her primary goal without a good reason , nor learning to be her own person rather than being Oden. (Still assuming she will join eventually, though!)
Hiyori (or at least her proxy speaker) teaching all of Wano to repeat vicious cycles because some families are just evil, apparently.
Carrot not even getting a goodbye or even being mentioned. Further compounded by the baffling decision to leave her to rule Zou.
The Straw Hats attempting to leave Wano without saying Goodbye?
Oda is preparing a return to wano, you can write my words.
@@Gabriel-pk8lw Oh wow what a surprise.
The Straw hats weren't going to leave without saying goodbye. They were waiting for Momo and Kin'emon. Luffy even had the flag ready for them
@@Gabriel-pk8lw THANK YOU lmaoo that's what I've been sayingg this isn't our last time here dunno why everybody treatin OP so stupidly
@@neinja66469 Pluton is there, were definitely going back to Wano
You know things are bad when even Manu starts to be pissed. 🤣
didn't you answer it yourself? Yamatos dream would already be fullfilled if she joins now and goes out to the see with the strawhats, while everyones else dream would only be fullfilled by the end of their journey.. I think she will join later on, on their way to Laughtale
Semi English major here wanting to explain yamatos path of following oden, so in the west we value individualization, our writing is our own individual exploration, in old Japanese literature and culture there is a value in following the footsteps of those from the past. You will see in writing that the writer is following the steps of a writer before them, viewing the same places, ect, and this cultural aspect is part of why Yamato is written to be someone following in odens steps. It doesn’t necessarily mean literally copying him, but a deeper cultural thing that ties with the Japanese culture of wano. Yamato is the Japanese soul and cultural soul wano is representing.
Oh my the damage control, even Japanese people don’t like the Yamato Oden thing because it’s WAY too overdone, so this whole culture thing is irrelevant
never liked English, felt like religion that you can say anything to make it mean anything
@@DXXD_ yes 👍🏻
@@DXXD_ something can be annoying and done for meaning, Im not trying to defend *yamato* to clarify I’m pretty neutral about them. Im trying to help bring understanding/knowledge to a concept that may not be known and would add perspective to an otherwise confusing situation.
@@cherryblossomqueen4481 yesss
i hear someone said that in japanese, it was much clearer that hiyori was talking about orochi in particular when she said that the kurozumi were born to burn
Yamato changing her mind reminds me of myself. I spent my whole life saying my dream was to live in Germany until I changed my mind at the last minute after going there for the second time and being horrified about all the "enrichment" Angela Merkel did, which got really worse after 2020. I wanted to live among Germans and now there are barely any of them anymore, even in Munich, a more conservative place for a big city.
Oda in his studio: "Gotta keep them guessing, never let your next move be expected"
Ayo it went from a happy arc ending to disaster.
But tho i think momo was crying because he still doesn't trust himself to be able to protect wano and yamato noticed it this is why she stayed.
translation: if momo wasnt such a bitch yamato would join
True Luffy did say he left everything to yamsto
She was gonna stay before that moment lol
@@dansheshe8039 i know that yamato was gonna stay before momo "crying" what i meant is that she noticed from the moment he fought ryukugyou (if i remember) that he doesn't have self-trust and doesn't know what to do .
Same thoughts. She actually took over my favorite character in One Piece. I can say many people loved her as well. So I am quite disappointed that she did not join the crew. Although I am still clinging to the idea that she will jump in Oden's fashion and follow the ship the moment Luffy, Law, and Kid's ships jumped out of Wano
Even though I don’t the execution of this chapter was the best for Yamato, there was some set up for Yamato’s decision to stay in wano to make sure momonosuke was ready.
For example, before the climax at onigashima, momonosuke confides in Yamato that he doesn’t want to open the boarders due to the nature of the outside world, this idea is expanded upon further during the battle against green bull where momnosuke insists that Yamato should retreat.
Again I agree that 1057 could of hit the nail on the head better, but I do think there was some logical sense with those previous moments In mind.
My theory on why she was left behind was
That she wants to be Oden and Visiting wano then either chasing Luffy's crew or protect/bring Pluton.
And maybe Kurozomi constantly disturbs the hierarchy. And maybe the discrimination will be lost after the walls are broken and finding out Kurozomi and Kozuki build the Pluton together. But probably Kurozomi Backstabbed them and thus the hatred against them started and maybe just maybe Toki is from Kurozomi. (I dont read SBS so idk Ok)
Very cool idea, about toki tho, we already know she was amatsuki, which was a wano family supporting the Kozuki and disappeared after Kurozumi took over it seems?
Kurozumi means “ black charcoal” so Hiyori saying they deserve to burn is also based on the irony of the meaning just how Oden ( a type of one pot food) was boiled to death.
Is so racist about kurozumi clan 😢
@@welcomeindarkside6648 racist isn't the word you are looking for.
@@welcomeindarkside6648 discrimination the word you should be using
@@vincentsudario3322 exactly.
@@welcomeindarkside6648 Hitler is a surname too but its fine to use it to describe evil people but not Kurozumi. the hypocrisy is amazing
that was the most unsatisfying chapter i've ever read.
The point with Yamato is, I think, that it was not the island that hold her prisoner, but her father. Now with kaido gone, she realises that her heart IS free, regardless of her location.
You literally freed me from my thoughts of regrets😭😭
..... Huge thanks man
That’s actually stupid. And if its free regardless of location then that means she could have left
To me this chapter illustrates my main issues with Wano arc as whole: The off screening of important events and how some plot threads ended up being just ignored.
Sadly i don't see Carrot happening, just like Yamato's choice to stay behind was off screened, i don't see why Oda would not just off screen the Strawhats saying goodbye to Carrot as well. I sure hope i'm wrong on this one.
IMO this was the last arc to get a new crew member since the next saga is the final one, i don't see them coming back for Yamato unless it happens REALLY fast.
I think Blackbeard is on his way to Wano to take pluton so i think the next ark the strawhats go visit ace's grave hear of blackbeard on his way to wano then set off to intersect fend off BB's crew but then it is revealed Shiriyu snuck in and stole pluton blowing open the borders than BB's crew retreating
didn't they already talk about carrot staying on zou as Minkleader
@@kysa3535 Yes, but we never heard her answer.
I'm really worried about the whole "3 years" thing. It is way to short to wrap everything up...
They just have a new member of the crew hiding on the ship
Since Caribou heard about Pluton and him being an agent for yet an unknown force, i'm sure that only the ancient weapon being protected until luffy gets it is the solo only reason for her staying in Wano as a guard.
Broke my heart honestly, I mean I have a feeling that Yamato will be back later (before the final war or maybe after). But the fact that they said that they wanted to leave to go out to sea, only to stay even after Momo said he didn't want to taint Yamatos fairwell just really upsets me.
I mean, if Yamato really wants to complete The Oden Experience™, joining the Pirate King's crew only after joining another rival crew sounds like the way to go
Don't get me started on Momonosuke bawling when Luffy has to leave when he knew it from the start. Its ok to cry, Luffy cried when Vivi or Bon Clay left. Just don't tell him to stay!
I am heart broken. I was hoping Yamato would add to the fire power of the crew to the point where we wouldnt get to see Liffy getting too much stronger. I want to see other character development more.
I really like Yamato and not even gonna lie I’m still devastated that she stayed 🫠 but oh well what’s done is done. I feel like the last chapters were a bit meh, could’ve ended better but we’ll see what’s next 🙌🏾
My theory is that Luffy has all the old Yonko crews by his side in the final battle, each led by a child of the old generation Yonko.
Whitebeard -> Marco
Big Mom -> Katakuri
Kaido -> Yamato
Shankes -> Will probably die and his child will stand by Luffy's side
This would allow Oda to show that the old generation has died out, but is behind Luffy.
I feel like Goda will address the gripes of the fandom in the next chapter. REALLY looking forward to what happens or what lore drops will happen next chapter. I WILL BE A BIG ONE BOYS!!!
Here's the list of what I'm looking forward to next chapter:
the conclusion of what happened to Kaido and Big Mom;
the other straw hats' bounties;
the next destination; hopefully ELBAF;
Jimbei's official toast to joining the crew;
explanation about the ongoing war between the Cross Guild vs the Marines/World Government;
The Gorosei's reaction to Luffy being a fully fledged Yonko;
Imu's reaction to Luffy being a Yonko;
if the gorosei actually has an idea that Pluton is in Wano;
Who Greenbull actually is;
what happened to Fujitora;
what is happening with Blackbeard's crew
At this kind of pacing, it may be feasible to expect to be able to get most of my questions answered in the next 1 or 2 chapters.
I don't think we'll just go to Elbaf… I think we'll go to a "filler" island first, but then Luffy will go all the way back to save either Vivi or Shirahoshi. We need some government action to prepare for the final showdown. We need to see Vegapunk and their new robot army, etc… If this doesn't happen now, it will feel too rushed seeing new enemies with new powers just showing up for the final battle without explanation.
@@alexmipego there's that too. But I don't think they will answer the vivi and shirahoshi situation yet, it feels like end game situations. We haven't even got a reaction from Luffy in regards to what happened to Sabo. For the Vegapunk thing, I think we will get something soon. It hss to be perfect though. Oda will tease us with that for a bit more, but no concrete answers yet.
I believe that the last part with Hiyori is part of Rakugo. The story tellers are so good that it makes you feel like they are the character they are talking about. Our story teller was talking from Hiyori's POV, thus why he said that. It's not that Hiyori was there to talk in front of everyone, the Rakugo guy is transmitting the story to everyone else in Wano. And as with any story, some things are not remembered right or lose their meaning
Kurozumi means “black coal”.. she means this, not that the clan should burn.
First time seeing Ohara feeling down from a chapter 😳
No matter ur position, Yamamoto not joining being this divisive just shows that she wasnt a properly handled at all
No- fan expectations is what kept it divisive. I’ll never question Oda’s decisions because he’s the one that knows his characters and story more than we do.
Oda is an even bigger troll than Tite Kubo.
After I read that chapter, I thought: "Oh shit. Ohara is gonna be sad about Yamato"
Maybe a preview for the end of One Piece: the walls of Wano are still up so they are still bound to their old way and old hatreds. Only when the walls fall can they be truly free and choose a new path and the same will be true for the whole planet: the Red Line must fall so the people can be free otherwise the circle of hatred and discrimination will continue forever.
Oda fumbled hard with Wano ending. Definitely was rushed and things got more confusing. Yamato not joining made zero sense. If that was the plan from the start she should not had so much panel time. Really hoping Oda doesn’t rush the ending of one piece…
My thoughts & opinions of the chapter:
Now I know that this may sound like Oda is wasting Yamato's potential, but I am getting the feeling that she will join the SH the same way Jinbe did when the crew headed to Onigashima!
If giving a copy of the SH's flag to Momo fully confirms that Wano is now one of Luffy's territories, will he do the same thing for any of the other places his crew has visited or ever will?
When I read the part about what Hiyori said to Orochi, I can't help but fear if she actually supported what the people of Wano did to him & his family, and doesn't believe that the people of Wano should take any responsibility for the 20 years of darkness that they've partially caused? If so, then I wonder what Momo, Sukiyaki, and the other vassels might do with it since they should try to avoid making that mistake again?
It is no surprise that the very next chapter will be the official start of One Piece's Final Saga, and I now want to know what you think the 1st chapter of the new arc will be about? Whether that be the SH going to a place similar to Jaya or Zou for more relaxation, some more reveals on what has happened to the people during the Reverie events, or automatically starting another Major arc that will go down in history such as Elbaf!?
If yamatos gonna join then why not join now
Yamato has no duties or any reason
@@itsjayh Maybe in the near future, we'll fully understand why Yamato isn't going to be an official SH for now. But I still believe that joining them in a Jinbe fashion will be worth it, and the same could be said for almost any future candidates who had a history with Ace.
@@dfile7598 idk bc since we're so close to the end, unless yamato joins like the next arc, then yamato wouldnt havr time to develope or even interact much with the shs
i don't think hiyori knows about what kozuki clan did to kurozumi. She might know about it in future
@@Green_piratr Maybe with the help of a less ignorant Sukiyaki, I hope so!
Some bad things don't erase the good moments we had through the arc.
But in the other hand, the lack of capability to close this properly, damages so much the story overall, because we had TONS of loose ends that without proper justification, become just asspulls (yes, I'm criticizing incoherent twists and plot holes from Oda, come at me).
This was the worst chapter ever in the series for me.
I'm aware every inconsistency in Wano isn't fault of this single chapter, but at the moment you end the arc, the possibility to fix them is closed. And it's the first time we close an arc with that much (not talking about mysteries, just plot holes).
And in a very personal level, the outcome of the Yamato character, was the biggest nonsense, just for the sake of forcing a plot twist... even worst than Carrot's from last chap. By far one of my favorites characters and the most hyped potential SH ever.
The whole Oden thing was a constant hindrance for her development, and it culminated with her giving up the only true desire of her own will, because in the end she had no identity at all (be said, Oden didn't even wanted to travel Wano. He left as soon as he had the opportunity, even against Shirohige's will). I just feel like, why the f she was even introduced and built up through the last 2 years just to be crushed in the end? the whole character lost the purpose of being introduced. She had more development than 2/3 of SHs since timeskip, just to become a powerful ally in a final battle.
Don't even want to talk about the resentment message Hiyori and the citizens gave us, because I was so pissed with the chapter at that point, that didn't even care about.
In the end, after being built up for 8~ years, Wano was a good arc that couldn't live up to expectations, because lack of consistency and pacing issues.
This 100%. Still in the comments you will find fanboys justifying everything Oda does, when it's clear that Wano had bad pacing, asspulls, plot holes and just wrong creative decisions. I hope Oda doesn't end the series badly thus damaging his entire +25 years of work just because he wants to end it quickly, I don't want another Game of Thrones situation.
@@SirCottiny why do you want everything to be spilled out. The story isn't over yet. GOT was best ehen it tried to keep secrets, also look at AOT. When the story completes, there shouldn't be any loose ends. And this story isn't gonna over for 4 to 5 years. So just chill bro
@@bikashit I wish you were right, but Oda said he wants to finish OP in 3 years. Of course that's not gonna happen, but if he speed things up and doesn't spend time on secondary plot lines like he usually does I could see it finishing in 5 years. We are nearing the end of the series and several plot threads opened in Wano have been left abandoned or unanswered, for instance Zoro's background (when are we gonna have a chance to end that plot point, are we gonna revisit Wano briefly?)
@@bikashit The story's not over, but Wano is. You can't just justify every loose end hoping to be tied in the end, because there isn't space to solve them all.
If you reveal mysteries a lot of time after being foreshadowed, it feels great and Oda's really good at that. But if you try to fill a plot hole, it just feels poor and out of place.
It's like trying to explain in Enies Lobby, Enel couldn't damage Luffy because he's made of rubber. You're just out of time.
And even if Wano doesn't have such an inconsistency like the example, there's a lot of small holes that if you have at least some criticism, I feel it tarnish the arc in some proportion.
'born to burn' can very much mean a lot of things. It can mean that 'being born like this sets us up for failure'
This had to be recorded and posted before chapter 1059 right because they explain the issue he has with Yamato not joining the crew. It's literally the same reason Jimbie stayed behind with the Sun pirates in Whole Cake.
At this point I will b never disapointed to oda's work. bcs at his level of storytelling, I believe that oda knows the best for one piece future compared to fandom with thier diverse ideology. so instead of using "disapointed" word I rather go with "confused". maybe oda preparing something bigger / unexpected in a good way for yamato, and u know that oda did this a lot of time and still amazed us.
Luffy becoming instantly matured after awakening makes me think that the Wisdom King of Sun God Nika has gotten into him.
*chooses least safe route*
@@asdfadf1904 prolly currently developing and still has his childlikeness mindset 🤣
What has he done to make him matured
This chapter was my biggest disappointment ever.. ODA WHAT HAVE YOU DONE BRO....
About the line Hiyori delivers, I read on twitter how it's a bad mistranslation, the way oda wrote "burns" is only a way that refers to the burning of charcoal, which I believe they said kuroizumi is also a word for. So it's just a parallel with "Oden is meant to boil" - "Kuroizumi (Charcoal) is meant to burn". Also considering she says it straight to Orochi who is burning in front of her at that very moment kind of points that it's a line directed to him rather than all the kuroizumi people that have existed.
Glad I am not the only one that felt this pain since I got the spoiler. Couldn’t sleep for days. I guess I have came to the conclusions that Wano is far from over. It’s such a big and very important country that it need to partially complete for other things to happen. 3 major plot point that needed to be completed. Opening Wano, releasing Pluton, and the link to the void century. I believe ODA needed Yamato for the event to happen. In the mean time there will be a new straw hats, who will it be? Vivi, kings, or even Marco is a possibility.
I'm glad Kozuki Oden didn't join the crew, but I'll be glad when Yamato joins
Now that Wano has ended, can we expect the LURKING LEGEND to appear next chapter?
what a stupid reason it feels like she had a misunderstanding at the last second after all her life wanting to set out to see. that change of mind could have happened at anytime
I was really hoping Yamato would join them! Really appreciate all your hard work btw!
I really appreciate this honest review on such a controversial chapter. Keep doing what you do!
I’ve been in a bad mood since Yamato changed her mind. She became one of my favorite characters in the series so it stinks that we won’t be seeing more of her.
i was hoping tama would join the crew, but one thing i knew for sure, no way in hell yamato was joining, like there was 0% chance
Yamato not joining is heartbreaking personally but also so sudden and doesn't make sense for how the manga and anime have built her up. Also I need the official translations to clarify Hiyori's "let them burn" line about the Korozumi clan. If it doesn't that means I got to say Hiyori is a bigot, the people of Wano are not ending the cycle of violence, and Momo has his work cut out for him.
a tyrant family that had two members left orochi and kanjuro who murdered and betrayed her family. if you cant understand why she said that than you are a moron, She is no bigot. Those two deserved to burn end of story, going beyond that direct blunt statement is dumb.
It's a pun, Kurozumi mean charcoal and Hiyori made fun of how Orochi died just like how Oden make a pun about his death.
I thought Yamato staying in Wano would be controversial but Hiyori's speech was even worse.
I think people took it the wrong way thinking that Hiyori was indiscriminately saying that all Kurozumi should die.
That isn't the case, she was just doing a parallel to Oden and Orochi, and how he end up receiving the same ironic fate. Basically one last fuck off to Orochi... The catchphrase "Oden wouldn't be Oden if it wasn't boiled" doesn't mean that Oden deserved to die that way it was just ironic that it happen, it's the same with Orochi and the meaning of Kurozumi, it doesn't mean that the Kurozumi deserve to be burn, it's just ironic that in this case he deserved that fate for the 20 years of tyranny... It's just poetic that he receive the same fate as his archenemy Oden and the same fate as his family name meaning.(By the way Hiyori isn't acting this scene out, that panel is a flashback ).
But it definitely could have been worded better to be less confusing.
It’s probably just a scan mistranslation
it was worded fine. orochi and kanjuro were the only two alive and they deserved to burn. And a nation under that tyranny and suffering would hate them on a level that saying they were born to burn makes complete sense. No controversy to it,
Give her time. Shes just reacting to orochis. Last words.
let's see how official version is
Lmao Yamato going with the strawhats? Nah bro
Honestly, I didn’t want a gay on the crew. But if a gay was going to join, it should be someone who deserves that spot. Someone, who since day one deserved that spot. A certain gay old spice swan of a man that holds a special place in our hearts. Bon Clay
Du sprichst mir zu 100% aus der Seele. Mir fehlen die Antworten auf die ganzen offenen Fragen, es ist so seltsam, dass Yamato trotz all ihrer Aussagen nicht beitritt und es ist so krass, was Hiyori da fordert.. irgendwie passt das so gar nicht zu Oda..
I was never a fan of the idea that Yamato was going to join. I think a lot of the reasons people give doesn't really fit with Oda's style.
Oda never showed Luffy to care about strength, blood line, or infamy. Luffy has always cared more about the person and their friendship. Yamato literally had a third of a very busy arc to be introduced. Not to mention it would be odd to have a relatively new character join at the tail end of an arc.
I feel like most people put their personal feelings into Yamato joining and didn't think of any other way. People thought Carrot was an obvious choice, but look what happend there.
Same
I also thought the same. It honestly satisfying seeing these One Piece theorists that been simping for Yamato having a breakdown because she didn't join.
Bad take
@@enigmaarcs8559 man then it was just a waste of panels but like yeah its fine
I agree, it wouldn't make sense thematically. Luffy doesn't have a personal tie to Yamato. They have only met the crew sporadically and they only ever "hung out" with everyone while Luffy was unconscious. Yamato SHOULD start their own journey and set sail with a crew from Wano after they are able to help Momo and the scabbards get settled with running the country. Yamato would be a great captain and will probably make an amazing crew of their own! But as far as being a Straw Hat? They do not fit.
Wano took a long time, it actually felt like the whole series was just gonna stay at wano, now its gonna feel a bit weird when we enter a new arc, its gonna feel unusual since it isnt wano lol
Kaido is going to find Pluton while swimming in lava 😆
Kurozomi meaning in English is coal. What heori mean is coal meant to be born. Referring to the coal not the family it's self.
Honestly, I hope Yamato copies Oden, which the chain to the boat when everyone seemingly thinks theyre gonna stay, and tries to stay ahold on the chain for 3 days, even though the Strawhats would probably just want him to get onboard already
but since Yamato has eaten a devil fruit while Oden didnt... if he does try, the results could be...
not good to say at the least
nice idea a little problem
oden was a normal human
yamato is a fruit user
the moment she touch water she become if not powerless, extremely weak
i doubt we would a similar scene
Not happening
Didn't you see the curtain closing in the last panel
Arc is over
Her*/she*
My thoughts on the chapter:
Yamato not joining the crew feels natural to me. She did not really feel like part of the crew and she did not have any interaction with almost any of our main characters except Luffy. To me she was more of a callback to Ace and a strong character to assist the straw hats in this really tough fight, she played a pretty important role in the events of Onigashima. Also having the devil fruit of the mythic protector of Wano felt like her actual role would be to stay there and amend for her father's actions by protecting the new shogun and its people.
In regard of Hiyori's declaration of hate, I believe that as a moral of the story it really missed the mark. But if you take in consideration the perspective of the character it's pretty logical. She has a deep hate for the Kurozumi and I do not really remember if she actually ever learned about Orochi's hard past. Her whole family was taken from her by the deeds of Orochi and on top of that he tried with his power to seduce her, basically tormenting her, her whole life. She as a character makes sense to bare that hate for the Kurozumi. And come one the word play with charcoal was pretty cool.
I think we can at least agree that Oda did a very nice job saying goodbye to our favorite characters from Wano and with the whole little brother relationship he established with Luffy and Momo. A relationship that really fits them.
Overall, personally I really liked the chapter and even though I agree that it wasn't the most satisfying conclusion to this Arc I also believe that whatever conclusion we got it would still seem imperfect and lacking.
More than that on Hiyori people seem to forget the culture and society surrounding Wano is based on the way of the Samurai around dying honour swords loyalty duty vengeance, the Kozuki rose from
The ashes and avenged their Lord, I mean makes sense 🤷🏾♂️
There was translation error in it. A Twitter user confirmed it. It is like Oden isn't oden if isn't boiled. So in that phrase she was only refering to Orochi.
@@60_trushitparmar79 yeah, and kurozumi means 'black charcoal'
the part of interactions with anyone except luffy, whats about robin then? after alabasta no one could expect her to be sh. but now for me its one of the most interesting and unique member
@@tradejobs3974 Yeah I wonder if it just means black charcoal hearted people are meant to burn or something like it.
I just realised why hiyori said that. I think it's a hint for her future partner being Zoro🌝🌚
Oda is smoking weeds while writing chapter 1057
I really REALLY hope that Oda doesn't rush things too hard or else it might actually worsen One Piece as a whole in retrospect. Everything build up throughout the entire Story left to hang at the end of it, just like it happened here in Wano. Wano took 4 years, it's conclusion about 10 chapter. One Piece started 25 years ago, to wrap things up in ~2-3 years can basically only feel just as rushed. I think alot of people will be dissapointed that some factions won't get as much screentime or even any at all and important fight of e.g. the revolutinaries or alliences will just happen of screen. Similar problem to Wano again.
Also yeah Hiyoris line got me fckd up too like girl this is the exact reason Orochi wanted to destroy Wano in the first place.
I mean, I think he’s earned finishing in 2-3 (which will probably be more like 3-5) when he’s already out in 25 years of work.
@@eduardom.8766 Of course he earned it. I wouldn't mind if he quit today and didn't draw another single page. Doesn't meab it wouldn't effect the quality of the series.
@@eduardom.8766 yea man but like if u gonN write a big story of years and not finish it off the way it should be and no rushes especially after keeping a fan base for 25 years then yea we have some right to be mad, a lot
Of us have spend our entire lives watching this show and would be very betrayed by oda if he ended it off on some bs after al the story bulding he did
I think it happened because he looked all his previous work and despite the fights the events etc. Wano is not Marineford and still is another island where the villain has to be defeated.So then he compared it to every other arc like that and he understood that he really jumped the shark and it has been too much of an arc.Perhaps he felt like the goodbyes would cost him 2 more manga comics so he just thought yeah , let's get this over with already.
But i'm hopeful.We're seeing Kaido again , definitely , he's a dragon , no way lava destroyed him and Big Mom thanks to having the most versatile fruit in the story definitely pulled off a trick to escape being burnt alive.Apart from that , Luffy beat Kaido like a Pokemon beating another battle by evolving in the process.Meaning despite the immense power Luffy got lucky and on top of that , he has not total control over Gear 5 or his awakening.Still both the Hito Hito fruit model Nika and the Uo Uo fruit model Seiryu are fruits powerful enough to easily lift someone to Yonko commander level at least.
We still have a ton of things to see and the future looks promising and prosperous.
I honestly thought that Wano will have a mini arc or a post-wano arc just like post-alabasta or post-enies lobby to just slowly end the arc and explain what will happen next or end some characters arc, but I'm surprised by the last several chapters that Oda didn't explain much about what happened to other characters like marco, big mama, kaido and what the heck is Shanks doing hanging around wano?? Is he just trying to stop marine from going to wano just like Admiral Ryokugu???
I think that Oda rush the ending of wano since it's a 3-part story setup (150+ chapters) and feels he needed to end the arc because how long it is and didn't want it to extend it more, and maybe explain in the next arcs about what happened to marco, big mama, kaido and shanks.
*but the real wtf is still why Yamato didn't join, it's like a wasted potential. A real bruh moment*
you know, 3 part story doesn't make sense. it would make sense if it was 4 part though. But last part being the biggest one is nowhere in any act structure. it is usually the middle one where all the drama happens. and last short parts are for conclusion.
If Carrot pulled another "zou" and we see her in the next chapter Yamato fans are going to be ballistic XD
I would love that. It's the most Carrot-thing she could do at this point.
She's not ready to lead her entire tribe. Especially not in the wake of Jack's holocaust.
The ending was probably a take to reflect on how Japan is still prejudiced against foreigners. How many countries over the past few centuries have become open yet they still keep outsiders in specific, controlled spaces. People they never bothered to truly understand.
Which set up against all the changes in the wake of the strawhats it makes sense to throw something out to counter the preceding ideals that have taken shape. To reinforce what everyone else has learned thus far.
The only way Oda can solve this issue with Hiyori in my mind is actually showing us later that everyone of the kozukis and red scabbard who stayed in wano for 20 year's had the time to build up their rage against the kurozumi and become more radical than momo or kinemon. And there will be a conflict between the 2 siblings. Momo wants peace but Hiyori has other things in mind. Ther was no time during the raid to address this because they all had the same goal. But now where everything has settled in, the true motivs come out and there could be a civil war(Avengers) type situation amongst the Kozuki and Yamato has to solve this problem, proving that she/he grew as a person and is ready to join the Strawhats.
This was my thinking as well. I know what alot of people want the story to convey based on the themes of the story but let's be realistic. Hyori's father and mother were both killed, she had to watch her people suffer in poverty, starvation, slavery, violence, and defective smile fruits. She then had to go undercover as a "call girl"and probably could rarely express her hatred for Orochi . Meanwhile she's forced to always play her father's favorite song for one of the people responsible for his death and the man she hates most. Most people would feel vengeful themselves after all of that for 20 years.
There is no issue with Hiyori. The scanlators mistranslated the scene by pluralizing the Kurozumi name. Hiyori was ONLY talking about Orochi, making this entire scene much more acceptable. Let's also not forget the scene is a narrated interpretation, and wasn't actually said.
@@szaxa272 also it’s the exact same phrase that oden says about being boiled. It’s a poetic play on words for a theatrical performance in the manga.
Kurozumi means “black coal”.. she means this, not that the clan should burn.