Why I Don't "HODL" Bitcoin

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • First thing’s first: no, it’s not a typo
    Secondly: Bitcoin's back to an all time new high, but I'm sitting out. In this video I explain why.
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  • @huli566
    @huli566 Рік тому +893

    This aged well

    • @MiroslawHorbal
      @MiroslawHorbal Рік тому +23

      Very well indeed

    • @videobenny3
      @videobenny3 Рік тому +69

      Two months later, and it aged VERY well.

    • @huli566
      @huli566 Рік тому +16

      Love the follow ups when it got wrecked yet again

    • @LuisLopez2
      @LuisLopez2 Рік тому +25

      This aged even better.....oddly enough, faster too.

    • @TemplarLove
      @TemplarLove Рік тому +12

      Still continue to age like a fine wine

  • @kevinalbora562
    @kevinalbora562 3 роки тому +2158

    If his assessment offends you, you are emotionally attached to your investments. Never a good thing.

    • @Kenny-tl7ir
      @Kenny-tl7ir 3 роки тому +44

      Have fun staying poor.

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 3 роки тому +30

      @@lrayo do you even know what a Ponzi is?

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 3 роки тому +19

      @@deadgorgeousrecords4396 losing money feels good because its an opportunity to see where you fucked up. It only feels bad once you find out you lost because some stupid news headline or tweet manipulated the sheep.

    • @varunsharma9238
      @varunsharma9238 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed

    • @ericp1139
      @ericp1139 3 роки тому +21

      @@pluto8404 no, losing money feels bad regardless. Maybe you can learn a lesson from it, but if you take pleasure from losses, then I’d imagine you’d balance to be $0.

  • @JamesJani
    @JamesJani 3 роки тому +1191

    Gem of a channel for actual analysis, and less hype 🙏

    • @ThePlainBagel
      @ThePlainBagel  3 роки тому +80

      Thanks James, that means a lot coming from you!

    • @AJ-iu6nw
      @AJ-iu6nw 3 роки тому +5

      @@ThePlainBagel why, who he?

    • @hoaxbusterhodler9676
      @hoaxbusterhodler9676 3 роки тому +2

      And fud.

    • @Xx1papercut1xX
      @Xx1papercut1xX 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed. Very refreshing to not have another UA-cam that focuses on just hype.

    • @stevenandersen6989
      @stevenandersen6989 3 роки тому

      @@ThePlainBagel Wait, wasn't HODL something idiot's did back 4 years ago?

  • @omarsabih
    @omarsabih 2 роки тому +290

    There's a Schrodinger thing about Bitcoins-- It will have value (and worth investing in) only if it becomes a usable currency. But for it to be a usable currency, it cannot have the wild volatility that the investors love.

    • @fahadalghamdi9316
      @fahadalghamdi9316 2 роки тому +59

      Finally! Somebody points that fact out. That stuff is NOT currency. It is the best example of people "investing" for price rather than value. If you choose to invest for price, then you only have yourself to blame if things go horribly wrong.

    • @JHEVR
      @JHEVR 2 роки тому +3

      It's a digital asset as gold, but there are other cryptocurrencies, it's volatile, but it's just the beginning of crypto

    • @67kingdedede
      @67kingdedede 2 роки тому +3

      @@fahadalghamdi9316 its meant to be more of a store of value than a replacement to the dollar. that will come as a coin in another name.

    • @jurado1010
      @jurado1010 2 роки тому +12

      For future reference: the paradox you’re describing has a name, it’s “catch-22”. Another example is “I can’t get a job because I don’t have experience, but I don’t have experience because I can’t get a job”.

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 2 роки тому +2

      Reminds me of how Nano is trying to cut away from the crypto space and instead of adopting the hated NFTs are trying to partner with actual companies, its advocates often make apps and programs that aren't just trading alone and are even aiming for the prestigious space in Forex. However, since they are still not used by that many people their prices (so most of their ups and downs) still adhere to Bitcoin (despite trying to do the opposite of what standard cryptocurrencies would do).

  • @f.r.2275
    @f.r.2275 3 роки тому +1635

    I do not understand the downvotes and I own crypto. He explained his view in a polite way and he has some good points. I do not agree with him and I will continue buying crypto. No big deal. He is free not to buy, I am free to buy, everybody happy.

    • @prodeaalex7025
      @prodeaalex7025 3 роки тому +71

      I do not find his arguments good and in my opinion he doesn't undestand how the Blockchain Technology works, for ex:Private Key/Public key where he explains the danger of losing all your Bitcoins, when you forget your password. You can still have a middle man (exchange) for your BTC if you want (for the Grandmother). Talking about something without making a deeper Reasearch is misleading. People are waching and trying to educate themselfs so I find it correct to downvote something bad.

    • @Martlns
      @Martlns 3 роки тому +222

      ​@@prodeaalex7025 If you lose your password and keys the coins are gone. Where exactly is he wrong in this?
      And promoting exchanges is just funny, since all bitcoin hypers do is say ''not your keys, not your coins''.
      So which one is it then? And if you allow the exchange to hold your coins, how is it ANY different than letting a bank hold investments/money, just without the government backing you up if the bank goes under?

    • @aris13pat1
      @aris13pat1 3 роки тому +98

      @@prodeaalex7025 It does not matter if he understands Blockchain Technology in the greater scheme of things. It's a detail that very few people truly understand yet they invest no matter what. And yeah sure you can have a middle man trading for you. But here is the catch. If the middle man desides to take your Bitcoins and leave you a goodbye note you can do exactly nothing because Blockchain Technology does not allow payment cancelations. Pretty cool right?

    • @MrDaCynic
      @MrDaCynic 3 роки тому +31

      @@aris13pat1 also it's just kicking the can down the road. The middle man can 'forget' the password all the same and you have no recourse to get it back.

    • @alexfosterroman
      @alexfosterroman 3 роки тому +12

      @@Martlns the difference is it has a limited supply and not getting inflated away at unknown quantities. Also, it’s not for everyone. If you want the privilege of total control over your wealth it comes with responsibility. Just like how you get home insurance you take the necessary precautions to not lose your keys or diversify on wallets etc.
      However, I will grant you that the barrier to entry is a challenge for those less technologically inclined.

  • @spicex4k901
    @spicex4k901 3 роки тому +1304

    I own bitcoin because I think it's dumb but I want to hedge against me being dumb.

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 3 роки тому +38

      Shouldn't you short it then to even out the dumbness?

    • @iamFegor
      @iamFegor 3 роки тому +39

      That's not what a hedge is

    • @jeevanv8631
      @jeevanv8631 3 роки тому +8

      Smart man

    • @m2redshirt
      @m2redshirt 3 роки тому +83

      @@iamFegor well he did say he's dumb...

    • @chartabona
      @chartabona 3 роки тому +20

      @@tomlxyz That's not evening out, that's doubling down.

  • @bvm437
    @bvm437 3 роки тому +281

    Never invest in something that's being sold to you. I like that.

    • @uneverknow8154
      @uneverknow8154 3 роки тому +16

      Okay, so you won't ever invest in anything because you can't buy something that must be sold to you. I hate when people are thinking in category of slogans repeating someones words as you don't have own opinion without these "wise" slogans. Slogan using people are easy to control. Buy/sell is the market so c'mon yall will be spreading that nonsense slogan to look like you are smart people saying so.

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 3 роки тому +15

      @@uneverknow8154 "if you buy bitcoin that isnt sold to you, you stole it" - Benjamin Franklin

    • @pluto8404
      @pluto8404 3 роки тому +11

      "Only invest in things that have a higher future value than the present value" - high iq bot

    • @uneverknow8154
      @uneverknow8154 3 роки тому

      ​@@pluto8404 nah, I just mined that bitcoin

    • @floxy20
      @floxy20 3 роки тому

      Especially the ads which say "send us your money and we'll send you our gold..." [because they say gold is more valuable].

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever 2 роки тому +85

    "Only a sith deals in absolutes"
    That's an absolute, Darth Bagel!

  • @OmarExplains
    @OmarExplains 3 роки тому +1598

    Damn.. My boy Richard here didn't invest in bitcoin...
    He invested in the gym! Look at them biceps :D

    • @pnkrckmom
      @pnkrckmom 3 роки тому +12

      Right??!!!

    • @frankmysterious4410
      @frankmysterious4410 3 роки тому +17

      In this video you can't tell much, but he's got some nice pecs too

    • @obctt017
      @obctt017 3 роки тому +68

      Its from all his arm movement when talking

    • @phenry1984
      @phenry1984 3 роки тому +1

      He sure did. He gave this a good try with Bitcoin.

    • @heitormoreira8167
      @heitormoreira8167 3 роки тому

      Ikr?! This guy is a living legend

  • @seanji
    @seanji 3 роки тому +335

    with all the cult-like sentiment in crypto, your realistic opinion is a breath of fresh air.

    • @terrorbear7
      @terrorbear7 3 роки тому

      H

    • @kallsin4617
      @kallsin4617 3 роки тому

      A

    • @brandonderrick006
      @brandonderrick006 3 роки тому +8

      Cult-like sentiment in every top asset silly point.

    • @mikejazz3001
      @mikejazz3001 3 роки тому +1

      Brandon Derrick No not really, no one is their life settings on VT.

    • @Tymegum
      @Tymegum 3 роки тому +1

      lol everything have a cult when it comes to investing

  • @laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
    @laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 3 роки тому +33

    this is the most compelling video for being cautious. not just the points of view presented but the WAY you've presented it. you're a very personable youtuber, so it sounds like a friend talking to you about it.

  • @marcusaureo
    @marcusaureo 5 місяців тому +7

    Everyone gets bitcoin at price they deserve

  • @nelsonang
    @nelsonang 2 роки тому +5

    all the negative comments aged really well…

  • @zechariahlevi2310
    @zechariahlevi2310 4 місяці тому +6

    You seem smart, you'll buy Bitcoin eventually

  • @manjinderdhillon705
    @manjinderdhillon705 4 місяці тому +5

    Increase your time horizon... Boom, bust, repeat. Higher lows

    • @manjinderdhillon705
      @manjinderdhillon705 4 місяці тому

      Also you marked the bear market bottom lol. Going to keep an eye on your videos to signal the top and bottoms. 1-2% of your portfolio will outperform the rest of your assets

  • @xixxloly7333
    @xixxloly7333 Рік тому +18

    This aged like fine wine

  • @bogeybichon7000
    @bogeybichon7000 3 роки тому +140

    GREATLY appreciate the "low-key" approach to your channel and the fact that you turned down "promotional money" from bitcoin advocates gives you even more credibility.
    Thanks for being impartial in a sea of hype.

  • @samuelmcginnis969
    @samuelmcginnis969 5 місяців тому +4

    Plain bagel always ages well.

  • @jaekyungseo5720
    @jaekyungseo5720 2 роки тому +5

    Lol this vid got so many downvotes by cryptobros. Yet it aged so well.

  • @jukesduck9363
    @jukesduck9363 Рік тому +11

    Richard, your channel has been a godsend, and so enjoyable to watch as someone just getting into investment banking.
    Thank you!

  • @kingtut4734
    @kingtut4734 3 роки тому +104

    This is why you are one of the very few financial advisors that I trust.

    • @taikamiya8214
      @taikamiya8214 3 роки тому +2

      Yes "don't buy Bitcoin just after a halving" is some trustworthy advice.

    • @Ravi-xf8dw
      @Ravi-xf8dw Рік тому +14

      @@taikamiya8214 lol how is your bitcoin going?

    • @taikamiya8214
      @taikamiya8214 Рік тому +1

      @@Ravi-xf8dw Fantastic... I got rid of my bank account in 2018.

    • @nabicx
      @nabicx Рік тому +6

      @@taikamiya8214 so you havent cashed out... you gained nothing

    • @taikamiya8214
      @taikamiya8214 Рік тому

      @@nabicx What do you mean "cash out"? I don't have a bank account, I don't use fiat. I've only been spending Bitcoin since 2018.

  • @mihailomaksa2184
    @mihailomaksa2184 3 роки тому +283

    Everyone buys bitcoin at the price that they deserve.

    • @phenry1984
      @phenry1984 3 роки тому +23

      You are so fucking right. Best sentence I have read all day. Thanks man.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb 3 роки тому +23

      Everybody sells BTC at a price they deserve

    • @Riley-Thurm
      @Riley-Thurm 3 роки тому +1

      How do I favorite a comment?

    • @BeC0o1
      @BeC0o1 3 роки тому +3

      Literally applauded. One of the best remarks about bitcoin I’ve ever seen

    • @loron259
      @loron259 3 роки тому +3

      Isnt that true for anything tho ?

  • @matthewmadden8943
    @matthewmadden8943 Рік тому +5

    This vidoe aged like fine wine.🍷

  • @Ricardo-vm3jl
    @Ricardo-vm3jl 2 роки тому +8

    This is aging very well.

  • @cnavarrete1999
    @cnavarrete1999 3 роки тому +19

    This is a guy who fully understands what investment really is

  • @RedOneM
    @RedOneM 3 роки тому +64

    Oh boy, can't wait for the video about GME

  • @MainstreamMoviegoer
    @MainstreamMoviegoer 2 роки тому +19

    this aged really well 👌

    • @MC-nf3js
      @MC-nf3js Рік тому +1

      For now. It will age badly soon.

    • @TemplarLove
      @TemplarLove Рік тому

      @@MC-nf3js aged well, not badly

    • @tomelima4496
      @tomelima4496 Рік тому +1

      @@MC-nf3js then you are proving his point: Bitcoin is an almost purely speculative asset that was wild, unpredictable swings.

    • @isaiahtraben1429
      @isaiahtraben1429 4 місяці тому

      Did it really though?

  • @terryleong7
    @terryleong7 2 роки тому +4

    and today you are proven right

  • @sal_strazzullo
    @sal_strazzullo 3 роки тому +244

    When even Graham Stephan bought it, that mean fomo is going crazy

    • @hungpham4615
      @hungpham4615 3 роки тому +1

      Did he mention how much he bought?

    • @haosmark
      @haosmark 3 роки тому +75

      After seeing one of Andrei's latest videos where he shares his net worth and distribution of assets, it hit me, that most of these finance channels don't even believe in what they are talking about. All of their investments are likely conditional payments for doing promos. I'd be amazed if it isn't the same with Graham. These people just talk at their audience and cash in on ad deals from whoever pays the most. Richard looks to be one of the ethical ones. I have yet to see anything sketchy from him.

    • @kvikende
      @kvikende 3 роки тому +17

      @@haosmark Ofc not, what they do is create content to get income. They often even have a patreon and some sob story so millenials and zoomers that should focus on paying down their student debt and save for a home can send them money instead and feel like they're "helping". It's *very* exploitative.

    • @nvnnyz
      @nvnnyz 3 роки тому +4

      It plummeted just as he bought

    • @ArsenicApplejuice
      @ArsenicApplejuice 3 роки тому +5

      @@hungpham4615 he said he bought $100k

  • @Psiconauta-cabalista
    @Psiconauta-cabalista 3 роки тому +218

    Man, great video. Im still bullish on bitcoin long term and love my portfolio being 10% crypto. But we do need rational arguments on this topic. I appreciate it. Love your content my man.

    • @littleredpony6868
      @littleredpony6868 3 роки тому +7

      You’re right that we need rational arguments about bitcoin. I do see the value bitcoin and other crypto currencies have, at the same time we’re still figuring out where it should be valued at. Bitcoin transactions have gone up drastically in places that have had a currency collapse like Venezuela and Argentina, but at the same time they’ve had a rise in the use of the US dollar and gold and silver as well. I’m trying to remember which one of the 2 are using their own currency only for small purchases and the dollar for larger purchases like a car and a house, and is headed towards a complete switchover to using the dollar for the majority of transactions.

    • @SivalinPuthery
      @SivalinPuthery Рік тому +5

      Ka-boom...

    • @swissarmyknight4306
      @swissarmyknight4306 Рік тому +4

      You really need to consider the opportunity cost of putting your money in digital monopoly money. 10% of your money was in a pump-and-dump scheme.

    • @Psiconauta-cabalista
      @Psiconauta-cabalista Рік тому +1

      @@swissarmyknight4306 you aint wrong buddy. But i really see value in crypto. I also believe more and more ppl will wish for approaching sovereignty over their money. If thats the case we should have another bull run. But yeah, im willing to loose 10% if im mistaken.

  • @whatisheartscont2be645
    @whatisheartscont2be645 Рік тому +6

    If any business tries to tell me that BItcoin has a P/E ratio, I would run away.

  • @carey-gregory
    @carey-gregory Рік тому +136

    This is the second video of yours from a year ago that I've watched in the last two days, and it's the second video of yours from that time that has aged very well indeed. BTC currently down 65% from where it was when this video was made. Thank you for the cool, reasoned, educated assessments.

    • @ondrejbronec837
      @ondrejbronec837 Рік тому +7

      The inflation part didn't age as well though...

    • @mediokurgamers8433
      @mediokurgamers8433 Рік тому +9

      @@ondrejbronec837 which I think is a good point to be wary of anyone who claims they can predict the future

    • @danb8606
      @danb8606 Рік тому +1

      Of course the crypto market is down right now. Our macro markets, like the S&P500 and gold, is down. Until the big boy markets improve, crypto isn't going anywhere. The Crypto market is extremely small compared to the macro markets. Not even a blip on the radar.

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas Рік тому +4

      @@mediokurgamers8433 He didn't claim there wouldn't be high inflation in this video though

    • @mediokurgamers8433
      @mediokurgamers8433 Рік тому

      @@1queijocas the point isn't whether or not someone did predict, the main point is that you should be wary of anyone who says they can predict the future with any sort of accuracy

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 3 роки тому +11

    It is very hard to trace, it has high liquidity, wide accepted, and used by criminals around the globe. Yes, I am talking about paper currency.

    • @sparcx86channel42
      @sparcx86channel42 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah Hahahahahah

    • @nbkw48
      @nbkw48 3 роки тому

      Don't be disingenuous. Who tf seriously fights for paper currency. What about digital fiat? Digital wallets holding various currencies?

  • @qidewen
    @qidewen 3 роки тому +68

    I don't hodl Bitcoin either.

    • @Andriak2
      @Andriak2 3 роки тому +3

      Dogecoin on the other hand...

    • @kipras7114
      @kipras7114 3 роки тому +2

      @@Andriak2 Dogecoin is literally the worst coin that ever existed lmao

    • @Kenny-tl7ir
      @Kenny-tl7ir 3 роки тому

      How old are you ?

    • @aienbalosaienbalos4186
      @aienbalosaienbalos4186 3 роки тому

      @@kipras7114 you’re missing out

    • @jeanbonneau6711
      @jeanbonneau6711 3 роки тому

      Great for you. The price is 30% higher now.

  • @DamienTalksMoney
    @DamienTalksMoney 3 роки тому +1

    Always enjoy hearing your perspective on things mate.

  • @TheIcelandicInvestor
    @TheIcelandicInvestor 3 роки тому +80

    Richard is one of the few voices of reason on this platform 😎

    • @blakemorgan8450
      @blakemorgan8450 3 роки тому

      I think he could have gone further with the inflation argument. Why buy Bitcoin if you're worried about inflation? Just buy a REIT. REITs are better than crypto in every measurable way as an inflation hedge. The debt of the REITs gets devalued as inflation rises, the property values increase, and rent increases which increases your distributions funded by cash flow.

    • @greghelton4668
      @greghelton4668 3 роки тому

      @@blakemorgan8450 he doesn’t embellish or hype matters. Very level headed.

    • @littleredpony6868
      @littleredpony6868 3 роки тому +1

      @@jasonbadua3454 bitcoin transactions have gone up in places like Venezuela and Argentina that have had a currency collapse. Then again transactions with the US dollar along with gold and silver have gone up in those places as well. If you’re worried about inflation it doesn’t hurt to have some of bitcoin, gold and silver as insurance against the worst case scenario. Granted I do consider bitcoin to be more speculative than gold and silver, but it doesn’t hurt to put a small amount into it or other crypto currencies, just in case.

    • @blakemorgan8450
      @blakemorgan8450 3 роки тому

      @@jasonbadua3454 I never said REITs were a safe haven asset. I said they were an inflation hedge. Yes there are situations like COVID where people can't pay rent which can hurt returns. Bitcoin is NOT a safe haven asset either. Bitcoin crashes each time the stock market crashes. If you want a perfect safe haven inflation hedge without risk, buy TIPS. Otherwise, REITs and the Materials sector are great hedges against rises in prices.

    • @ZaDowlan
      @ZaDowlan 3 роки тому

      Definitely not

  • @gt0703
    @gt0703 3 роки тому +16

    Bitcoin 101: Once you buy Bitcoin you join the marketing team - you will tell everyone else to buy and HODL it - that's the only way the price will go up, i.e. increase demand (market it to your friends and family) and limit supply (HODL). Never mind its just a string of characters which can't be used for anything except to give to someone else.

    • @robobrain10000
      @robobrain10000 3 роки тому +3

      Ye. Just get out while you can. Being too greedy and expecting it to hit 200k is going to burn a lot of people. Once people start cashing out their BTC to buy their yachts and buildings, it should fall from there then. I can't see BTC reaching those prices, unless the yacht company starts accepting BTC and pays their employees in BTC and pays their taxes in BTC.

  • @s1351-null
    @s1351-null 2 роки тому +19

    As a Bitcoin 'hodler' I liked your video and you've gained a subscriber. And although I see a bright future for Bitcoin, it is for sure a very high risk speculative asset, other crypto are even worse. Also, never invest more in Bitcoin/crypto than you are willing to lose!

    • @troykerrshredz8193
      @troykerrshredz8193 Рік тому +2

      hows that going for ya? millionaire yet?

    • @msalas5963
      @msalas5963 Рік тому

      Well I hope you're okay losing your bitcoin investment!!!
      😂😝😛😛🤣
      Truly agree with the 4 reason but should also have a discussion of the IMPORTANT FIFTH REASON... THAT BITCOIN IS HISTORICALLY INVOLVED IN SCAM!!!
      😂😝😛😜🤣
      There have been a lot of ACTUAL CASE that it has been involved with the owner running away with all the money and another case involved in some form of pump & dump scheme!!!
      There's no REGULATION & SECURITY that any bitcoin creator can easily get any people money then waste it on fancy partying!!!
      THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING IF A BITCOIN IS BEING USED TO STEAL DUMẞ PEOPLE'S MONEY!!!

  • @krzysztofmarynowski3870
    @krzysztofmarynowski3870 2 роки тому +5

    Just 9 month and argument about inflation aged so bad

  • @robel1992
    @robel1992 2 роки тому +6

    This is a very US centric view on cryptocurrencies - in Ethiopia when your Birr has lost half of it's purchasing power in 2-3 years BTC starts to look very nice.

    • @ivan200804
      @ivan200804 2 роки тому

      They have a huge war in Ethiopia, there is no coverage in the US at least.

  • @alwynjohn-thesimpleinvesto4730
    @alwynjohn-thesimpleinvesto4730 3 роки тому +4

    Keep up the grind, love your vids!!

  • @CaribbeanCryptoTips
    @CaribbeanCryptoTips 2 роки тому +2

    I had to delete my old comments on this video...they were so cringe and biased. Glad I took a second take on this video.

  • @devendrakumardave
    @devendrakumardave Рік тому +3

    Aging like fine wine so far

  • @MoritzAdler
    @MoritzAdler 2 роки тому +69

    Man, I can't believe how well this video has aged. Well done and thanks for this!

    • @MrMan-dy7sg
      @MrMan-dy7sg Рік тому +4

      What are you smoking? Video has aged fairly badly.

    • @MoritzAdler
      @MoritzAdler Рік тому +9

      @@MrMan-dy7sg in what sense?

    • @Skipahhhh
      @Skipahhhh Рік тому +15

      @@MrMan-dy7sg Bitcoin is down like 50% since this video came out.... How has this aged badly?

    • @AlexOnFinance
      @AlexOnFinance Рік тому +2

      @@Skipahhhh This video ages well & badly depending on where you are along the BTC cycle (for as long as it lasts; if it lasts). Crypto is utterly speculative (likely 99%+ of the 21K+ coins will eventually go to 0 but some have genuine use cases). Certainly NOT for the faint of heart, and definitively NOT something anyone should go all in on; unless they like living in a cardboard box if they bet on the wrong one.

    • @justcommenting4981
      @justcommenting4981 Рік тому +1

      @@MrMan-dy7sg cope harder

  • @mirzah.5821
    @mirzah.5821 3 роки тому +7

    One two half two donut is back! :)
    Edit: That Sith remark had me spit out my coffee just fyi. :D

  • @MikeNardiTV
    @MikeNardiTV 2 роки тому +2

    Great video man! I’ve always been sceptical on crypto but couldn’t really articulate the feelings I was having about it. This video pretty much summed up my uneducated opinion lol, thank you!

  • @kylecorbett3191
    @kylecorbett3191 2 роки тому

    Thank you for all your videos! I love how you deliver the info and very calming to listen to.

  • @Flying_Scorpion
    @Flying_Scorpion 3 роки тому +12

    "Not Bill down the road who works at the mechanic shop, who's been watching a lot of Austrian economics UA-cam videos lately." hahaha that was me 12 years ago :) (AND I was a lube technician at a Ford Dealership HAHAHAHA)

  • @akaxia9572
    @akaxia9572 3 роки тому +12

    I invested in Bitcoin with a mindset that there is a 90% chance that I will not get my capital back

    • @akaxia9572
      @akaxia9572 3 роки тому

      @CMS Roanoke they all closed sadly.. so i have no choice

    • @akaxia9572
      @akaxia9572 3 роки тому

      @CMS Roanoke wkakwakwa you got my point bruh, Bitcoin is my religion right now xD

  • @gregpreteseille845
    @gregpreteseille845 3 роки тому +1

    I love what you said at the end about being sold on something and ignoring it. Will definitely try to keep this in the back of my head

  • @Apchenail
    @Apchenail 5 місяців тому +2

    This aged well.

  • @liquid_shadow8690
    @liquid_shadow8690 Рік тому +5

    Video aged like fine wine. I didn’t invest in crypto because of these reasons. I missed the chance to buy bitcoin around $100 and kicking myself. But glad i HODL on to my money.

  • @HydrogenAlpha
    @HydrogenAlpha Рік тому +4

    Like a fine wine, this has aged to perfection.

  • @marcuscicero5033
    @marcuscicero5033 28 днів тому +2

    Bitcoin was $33K USD at the time of this video. It's now $68K USD.

  • @andrewb2156
    @andrewb2156 2 роки тому +2

    How good did this video age!
    Thank you

  • @mathewcargill7854
    @mathewcargill7854 2 роки тому +3

    Well this aged well...

  • @user-wk5yy5dx9k
    @user-wk5yy5dx9k 2 роки тому +3

    just one year later...

  • @olugbemimoronfolu8157
    @olugbemimoronfolu8157 3 роки тому +2

    i like you plain bagel - discovered you yesterday and I love it

  • @eduardolopes762
    @eduardolopes762 3 роки тому +2

    Nice gains man, looking sharp!

  • @anderspekkarinen7244
    @anderspekkarinen7244 Рік тому +3

    One year later bitcoin is 71% down.

  • @junkman7426
    @junkman7426 3 роки тому +18

    I am new to "investing" and started reading "The Intelligent Investor" several months ago. I was having trouble understanding quite a bit of it so I started looking for some UA-cam help to get the basics of the basics. Your videos have been very helpful. Interestingly, your advice very often lines up with this book.

    • @Bowserfuzzi
      @Bowserfuzzi 3 роки тому

      That book is wonderful. There is infinite wisdom inside!!

    • @Frankcapasso
      @Frankcapasso 3 роки тому

      That is a great book.
      I feel it is worth its weight in gold. Stay with fundamentals.

    • @klppdc
      @klppdc 3 роки тому +2

      It’s not a book for beginners. I would recommend Buffetology.

    • @DragonZombie2000
      @DragonZombie2000 2 роки тому +2

      That book was useful 30 years ago. Have fun buying your 5:1 PE ratio stocks like Intel with 1 percent yearly dividends while avoiding Shopify and apple with their 30:1 ratio

    • @junkman7426
      @junkman7426 2 роки тому

      @@DragonZombie2000 hahahaha, that so true.

  • @zachhunt123
    @zachhunt123 3 роки тому +7

    Funny how we determine a crypto currency's value by how much it's worth in governments' currencies, while it's simultaneously supposed to be replacing those currencies.
    I'll make a bold prediction: The US government will never adopt a crypto currency to replace fiat. Why would a government like the US financially cripple itself with an artificially scarce currency, when it already has the ability to create as much of its own currency (USD) as needed?

  • @omzy24
    @omzy24 Рік тому +2

    The integrity of this man 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 I’ve watched a few of his videos. This is a great channel!

  • @josephgordon1269
    @josephgordon1269 2 роки тому +31

    As a person new to investing I to thank you for your grounded, and logical perspective. 👍

  • @Tsakaman
    @Tsakaman 3 роки тому +4

    Subscribed. Good analysis. From a portfolio perspective, a small allocation (in the 2-5% range max) to cryptos can work to deliver some returns (essentially as an "alternative" to alternative investments, which are usually difficult for retail investors to get to). Assuming of course one understands that there is no real fundamental driver for its price and are willing to accept wide swings in value.

  • @Baranoeda
    @Baranoeda Рік тому +2

    Most Plain Bagel videos seem to age well. Like fine vine. And remarkably, he never ask for "THE PLAIN BAGEL INVESTMENT COURSE, ON DISCOUNT ONLY TODAY", like he might have had if he called himself "Meet Bagel".

  • @terdsandwich1121
    @terdsandwich1121 Рік тому +2

    When I first started investing I did not appreciate Plain bagels calm demeanor and lack of hype.. because I was an idiot who wanted to hear bullish things all the time. Now, i think plain bagel is 1 of top 3 finance channels on youtube

  • @alexfosterroman
    @alexfosterroman 3 роки тому +30

    I appreciate the measured approach to the asset. I would be curious to know your strategy for handling the likely dollar crisis. Especially for those that are not wealthy enough to hold real estate, fine art, etc. I think it’s easy to dismiss it as someone who understands assets and is part of the rich get richer side of the population.
    I also think comparing it to gold market cap is useful along with the stock to flow model. Saying it’s a short get rich quick speculative binge ignores its 12 year history. I guess time will tell but the longer it exists the better the network effect.

    • @blakemorgan8450
      @blakemorgan8450 3 роки тому +8

      You can hold real estate with less than $50. Just buy a REIT. REITs are better than crypto in every measurable way as an inflation hedge. The debt of the REITs gets devalued as inflation rises, the property values increase, and rent increases which increases your distributions funded by cash flow.

    • @alanlee6676
      @alanlee6676 3 роки тому +3

      Bitcoin is the only 100% fair asset. However fair doesn’t mean equal. The way bitcoin worked is they never had an initial purchase. Like with a home there is 2 ways to get a home you can buy it or build. It. Same with bitcoin. Yes you can buy it. And you can mine it. The people who supported the bitcoin network are rewarded with bitcoins plain and simple. Fair to everyone but not equal. To those who only view bitcoin as an invest are not thinking big picture.

    • @alexfosterroman
      @alexfosterroman 3 роки тому +1

      @@blakemorgan8450 this is true good point 👍 I own REITS for that reason. Although admittedly the potential upside is way less than btc

    • @bigpep7987
      @bigpep7987 3 роки тому +7

      @@alanlee6676 Just like every other dumb money individual in BTC, you've managed to write a paragraph without saying anything substantial at all about the topic at hand. Just "Bitcoin is future, bitcoin is everything"

    • @alanlee6676
      @alanlee6676 3 роки тому +1

      @@bigpep7987 if you can’t see what’s going on maybe it’s a good think you don’t own any. There isn’t enough for everyone anyway.

  • @calypso2nd
    @calypso2nd 2 роки тому +5

    Wtf is it with the downvotes? I have >70% of my portfolio in cryptocurrency, and I love the fresh view from him. I'm a new subscriber, and will be a subscriber of his for a long time. I've been enjoying his other videos too, they're very informative. He just has a different view on cryptocurrency, that is all. Nothing more, nothing less. Keep up the good job, my friend!

    • @RyanPridgeon
      @RyanPridgeon 2 роки тому

      People can tend to be butthurt bitches

    • @asteelcup859
      @asteelcup859 Рік тому

      How's that 70% going for you now lol

    • @calypso2nd
      @calypso2nd Рік тому

      @@asteelcup859 Been going great. I'm a damn good trader.

  • @profanddevplaygames
    @profanddevplaygames 3 роки тому

    Appreciate the smart, focused videos on this channel that avoid hype. I have folks that keep trying to sell me on crypto, and I stay away for many of the reasons you mention.

  • @boogernosetv
    @boogernosetv 2 роки тому

    Very interesting video! I like the way you deliver it!

  • @youtuber-ov6px
    @youtuber-ov6px 3 роки тому +4

    It's easy to make pile on videos like most youtubers these days so I always like your perspective

  • @andreidoanca4262
    @andreidoanca4262 3 роки тому +4

    this guy gets it! I feel the same and always felt the same things about Bitcoin as you

  • @DrHughMonguscoque
    @DrHughMonguscoque Рік тому +2

    welp not saying hes right but this video aging pretty well in 2022

  • @codenameexoliby6020
    @codenameexoliby6020 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for being honest about the marketers trying to buy you out. Just confirms my suspicions that All these other financial channel youtubers are selling us something instead of being authentic like you. Thanks brother for not selling out

  • @CalSticks
    @CalSticks 3 роки тому +56

    I don’t mind at all if you want to republish this video every week. Really helps with the FOMO

    • @enriquellerena4779
      @enriquellerena4779 3 роки тому +1

      You could also buy like 100$ of bitcoin more or less. If it goes up you got a free big mac and if it goes down it’s just 100$.

    • @CalSticks
      @CalSticks 3 роки тому +4

      @@enriquellerena4779 You could also bet $100 on red and get a whole stack of burgers or lose $100.

    • @ph_hacker_d
      @ph_hacker_d 3 роки тому +7

      @@CalSticks this assumes that bitcoin is nothing more than pure gambling/speculation. Multi billion dollar institutions/companies wouldn’t simply gamble with money on their balance sheets

    • @alexfosterroman
      @alexfosterroman 3 роки тому +6

      It’s a risk but it has an a-Symmetrical upside.

    • @lacunaarchaea
      @lacunaarchaea 3 роки тому +2

      @ph_d_hacker
      I mean, they literally do that all the time though. Banks, for example, do that all the time. That’s why they hire so many mathematicians and statisticians. They basically want to be like card counters in black jack. There’s still a lot of luck and speculation involved when making investments, but if you develop a solid method to make sure you turn a profit in the long term and you have enough capital then ideally it would all just be a matter of time. Hedge funds do the same thing. Many large corporations dabble in FOREX with their profits to try and maximize their purchasing power when and where they need to reinvest them. Unless you are the one building the company you have stock in, all investing is essentially gambling, but-at least in theory-there’s no “house” to rig the games in their favor. This is also why diversification is important: you don’t want to lose the whole pot on any one bet. Just like you don’t go in on any one dice roll or roulette spin.

  • @DilupthaPerera
    @DilupthaPerera 3 роки тому +25

    Bitcoin's P/E ratio?!
    Benjamin Graham would be turning in his grave...

    • @boombalabo
      @boombalabo 3 роки тому +2

      Hook him up to a generator and maybe we could offset the energy consumption of all the bitcoin mining!

  • @julioarcaiko
    @julioarcaiko 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful breakdown of the risks. I appreciate the fact that you’re very respectful with your point of view and don’t berate people who chose to invest. I actually think you would enjoy other Crypto projects considerably more than Bitcoin. Still speculative but the use case and potential is incredible.

  • @moonsettler7537
    @moonsettler7537 3 роки тому +1

    good point about the risk btw! when something has in-proportionate returns for the risks the market rushes to restore balance before you can blink.
    something that has 360% annual return historically has to have some serious systemic risks.

  • @javagoblin1585
    @javagoblin1585 2 роки тому +34

    Watching this video now, as BTC peaks at like 67k is refreshing.

    • @pokiblue5870
      @pokiblue5870 2 роки тому +8

      This did not age very well…..at the time he posted this video bitcoin was at around 30k-32k…..he obviously doesnt understand bitcoin and the halvings on the long term.

    • @byroncanty8986
      @byroncanty8986 2 роки тому +1

      @@pokiblue5870 guess he's just not investing in something he doesn't understand. he is all about stocks normally and I know lots of Stock crazy people getting 12% a year but think Bitcoin is a scale with 300% yearly

    • @DougalYoung
      @DougalYoung 2 роки тому +1

      @@pokiblue5870 he is a stock analyst. I think he has a point. Also want to note I do invest in crypto and think that you have a point too.

    • @pokiblue5870
      @pokiblue5870 2 роки тому

      @@byroncanty8986 investing in crypto is a one life opportunity. If ur not scared to see 20-50% drop then crypto is for you, because at the same time it can go up 20-50% 😎

  • @whiteeye2121movalik
    @whiteeye2121movalik 3 роки тому +20

    I searched "Dragon_Slayer64" in the comments section

  • @egth1300
    @egth1300 2 роки тому +2

    I prefer btc atm over etf's but you have good arguments and concerns, thanks for the content.

  • @D3cast
    @D3cast 3 роки тому

    I think its a great video! I really liked it. Thank you!

  • @UnbearableYT
    @UnbearableYT 3 роки тому +49

    "Only a sith deals in absolutes"
    That's an absolute...

    • @davidcurameng
      @davidcurameng 2 роки тому

      When someone makes an absolute statement about an opinion absolute, this makes that specific someone dealing in an absolute. 🥴🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @jns6971
    @jns6971 11 місяців тому +3

    "When did people start caring so much about their ledgers?" 2008 ring any bells?
    Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin in 2009 as a direct response to the 2008 financial crisis.

  • @bilalahmedkhan5876
    @bilalahmedkhan5876 Рік тому +2

    Aged like fine wine.

  • @BURGATRON
    @BURGATRON 3 роки тому

    Clear points that are very calmly explained. Great video.

  • @internetceo
    @internetceo 3 роки тому +58

    There is just 1 incorrect amount of Satoshis to have: 0.

    • @BarnacleBoy42069
      @BarnacleBoy42069 3 роки тому +4

      True. Lots of people hate on BTC but what's the harm in putting 10 bucks into it just to get a feel for it?

    • @markdonald6115
      @markdonald6115 3 роки тому

      Hello mate, leave me your email address i have something that will interest you

    • @internetceo
      @internetceo 3 роки тому +15

      @@markdonald6115 how@about.no :)

    • @conorm2524
      @conorm2524 3 роки тому +11

      @@internetceo
      Can I interest you in some free malware?

  • @JackDuffley
    @JackDuffley 3 роки тому +104

    My favorite absolute statement is "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

    • @1titans
      @1titans 3 роки тому +1

      I'm Darth Titan

    • @jcbatz87
      @jcbatz87 3 роки тому +2

      A statement like that is an absolute so I guess the jedi do too. Lol

  • @willdehne1
    @willdehne1 Рік тому +2

    Another good call to your credit.

  • @ImMigrant98086
    @ImMigrant98086 2 роки тому +1

    Someone told me they are holding bitcoin at 60k for the "long term". I told them "what long term?", we don't know where it is going. Take your 100% profits and don't be greedy

  • @Frankcapasso
    @Frankcapasso 3 роки тому +3

    I think this man is extremely sharp.

  • @prasoongupta12
    @prasoongupta12 3 роки тому +47

    Man I just want to say I really appreciate you giving all this valuable advice to financially illiterate people like us.
    May god bless you with double digit returns!

    • @arthurdiamondhands474
      @arthurdiamondhands474 3 роки тому +1

      double digits! Ha! when you want to make some real money buy bitcoin

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 3 роки тому

      @@arthurdiamondhands474 no. Buy 0dte far otm options.

    • @swissarmyknight4306
      @swissarmyknight4306 Рік тому

      @@arthurdiamondhands474 Comment aged so well. Double digits in the wrong direction.

  • @pvpv9344
    @pvpv9344 2 роки тому +2

    7:20 here we are 10 months later with the highest inflation since 1980s :)

  • @connor8018
    @connor8018 3 роки тому

    really enjoy your videos very informative and balanced. Hey can you do a video on whatever the heck is happening with gamestop stock? I've been trying to follow it and its interesting but a confusing. also if your looking for another 5 minute history idea I suggest the puerto rico debt crises. It has everything lots of bonds and legal court cases and obscure laws and nobody has done a good concise video on the topic.

  • @tripleeyeemoji2685
    @tripleeyeemoji2685 3 роки тому +3

    I can’t wait for the $GME episode

  • @FusRoDah-Dovakin
    @FusRoDah-Dovakin 2 роки тому +3

    Fast forward 1 yr… Why didn’t I watch this earlier?

    • @hazzdazz
      @hazzdazz 4 місяці тому

      how much did you lose?

  • @anon746912
    @anon746912 2 роки тому +1

    Watching this video and reading these comments in mid 2022 with the market going down is just - * chefs kiss *

  • @carmasterz9733
    @carmasterz9733 3 роки тому

    Man, you are cool! Respect. Respect also for keeping your channel credible.

  • @BaMxDistortion
    @BaMxDistortion 3 роки тому +5

    Curious on what his points would be on Defi! ;)