Investing Won't Make You Rich (Probably)

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    Also two points to clarify:
    1) By "rich," I mean the excessive disposable income promised by the investment ads I've seen (fast cars, private jets, etc.).
    2) I don't disagree that investments are vital to growing your wealth (I do run an investment channel, after all), and you can make you a lot of money investing WHEN it's combined with a strong savings program. The point is to highlight that investments ALONE cannot make you rich (i.e. you can't put aside a few thousand dollars and expect to hit a million in a few years).
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    This channel is for education purposes only and is not affiliated with any financial institution. Richard Coffin is not registered to provide investment advice and as such does not provide recommendations on The Plain Bagel - those looking for investment advice should seek out a registered professional. Richard is not responsible for investment actions taken by viewers.
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  • @ThePlainBagel
    @ThePlainBagel  5 років тому +1447

    Hey everyone, three points I want to clarify:
    1) by "rich," I am referring to the excessive disposable income flaunted in the trading advertisements (i.e. fast cars, private jets, etc.). I do believe long term (with the help of compounding) you can make a lot of money investing, hence my specification of "investments won't make you rich, probably...at least not in the short-term."
    2) Regarding the wealth survey, I should have highlighted that these people got to where they are by saving AND investing. The point I was trying to highlight was that they didn't get there by investing ALONE (i.e. like the example, where you invest 10K once and never again) but rather used disciplined savings to fuel their investment returns.
    3) I believe investments are VITAL and that over time they can earn you a lot of money when combined with a strong savings program. Sorry if the video came off as anti-investment; I promise you that it is not.
    Sorry for any confusion, one of the problems with making an unscripted video!

    • @ce2958
      @ce2958 5 років тому +26

      The Plain Bagel I made over 7 figures in 4 years getting in before the Canadian MJ legalization, still in my 30’s. Mostly with Canopy Growth Corp, but others in the Canadian sector. Timing and knowledge about what your investing in was key. I’m sold completely out and invested in guaranteed investments for the time being, waiting for the incoming economic downturn.
      I do agree that being disciplined and savings are very important BUT those savings need to be placed in the appropriate sectors during growth periods to maximize your time. I’m in my mid 30’s.
      The secret to good investing is finding undervalued sectors or individual stocks.

    • @Luis-bk9jn
      @Luis-bk9jn 5 років тому +5

      Doesn’t saving count as an investment tho? I still agree with you tho

    • @ThePlainBagel
      @ThePlainBagel  5 років тому +22

      @@Luis-bk9jn Technically some people distinguish between saving as in keeping money in an account and investing as holding securities (i.e. money is either SPENT, SAVED or INVESTED). Making this video though I was using the terms interchangeably.

    • @saltyplayer7704
      @saltyplayer7704 5 років тому +22

      i agree with you. people who i know didn't like stock market, they said is rigged, is evil, is gambling they even claim i will lose all my money one day. i told them this isn't winning lottery this is investment in (1 to 10 years) this isn't turn you into millionaire. and yet my friend still claim that i gamble with my money and they refused to learn. but the irony is they go to casino and gamble their money which they claimed it's for fun, it's like donation (if i lose i pretented to be a donation to the casino after all i only lose couple hundred dollar how bad can it be?) people have "get rich quick" mind is really are something.

    • @MichaelReed609
      @MichaelReed609 5 років тому +5

      The reality is if you're not a rich person when you start investing you're barely going to have unrealized gains above inflation by the end your life. I mean that with no malice.

  • @nickspeelman9174
    @nickspeelman9174 4 роки тому +2961

    There's only one way to get rich quick: Selling get rick quick schemes.

    • @Marks_Piano
      @Marks_Piano 4 роки тому +123

      Also: dealing drugs.

    • @nickspeelman9174
      @nickspeelman9174 4 роки тому +93

      @@Marks_Piano I don't know. In my very limited experience selling drugs, it was a lot more work than they made it sound like in DARE.

    • @mariokarter13
      @mariokarter13 4 роки тому +56

      If everyone that watched this video gave a mere $5 dollars, I'd be a millionaire.

    • @kingvt817
      @kingvt817 4 роки тому +14

      Yea i love rick quick. Smart guy always scheming

    • @wearewon
      @wearewon 4 роки тому +8

      @@mariokarter13 where do I sign up?

  • @jamesminor1325
    @jamesminor1325 4 роки тому +1886

    "If they had a strategy that earned above market returns, they'd sell it to a hedge fund, not you through a UA-cam ad." Very true, many people need to hear this.

    • @miguelcastillo1742
      @miguelcastillo1742 4 роки тому +99

      Just the other day, there was an ad of Investor Business Daily on Facebook offering its premium tools for $34 a month, and there was a comment: "if your tools are that good, why aren't you using them to make money instead of selling a monthly subscription?"
      I was laughing so hard because it is true lol

    • @onee
      @onee 4 роки тому +61

      No they won't sell it to a hedge fund. Only a moron would. They would start their own hedge fund instead.

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 4 роки тому +18

      @onee If they weren't already rich then selling it would be the most surefire way to get a lot of cash to start off with. THEN they could start their own fund

    • @anirudhpokharel1489
      @anirudhpokharel1489 3 роки тому +23

      @@onee well it's not that if you sell the strategy to a hedge fund, you no longer will have that strategy. The hedge fund that buys the strategy will never share that strategy to anyone for obvious reasons. And teh only two people who know the strategy will be you and the hedge fund and you can still make money using that strategy. You will get 100 millions or even half a billion for giving a strategy that brings 'guaranteed' 30 % return. So you will actually be better off selling it to one hedge fund and using that money to continue investing with that strategy.

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 2 роки тому +3

      @@anirudhpokharel1489 There's one problem. No one will buy it without a proof, and when you manage the proof, it's already late as markets have moved on.
      If you have perfect strategy, you use it, and technically only other way to profit would be to sell it to suckers who buy anything.
      For the record I'm not defending those scammers, which is what most if not all of those marketeers are, just pointing out theoretical parspective to it.

  • @rockyn191
    @rockyn191 3 роки тому +224

    “2018 was a crazy year”
    😂😂 just wait 2 years

    • @Mind_Elasticity
      @Mind_Elasticity 3 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @gerry8381
      @gerry8381 3 роки тому +4

      2020 says "hi" 🤣

    • @kyubre
      @kyubre 3 роки тому +2

      That was literally prophesy!

  • @StephJ0seph
    @StephJ0seph 4 роки тому +1505

    0:12
    "2018 was a crazy year"
    _Me in 2020:_
    *LOL*

  • @GrahamStephan
    @GrahamStephan 5 років тому +4005

    Seriously good video, very well said!

    • @davidh3396
      @davidh3396 5 років тому +119

      you both are true heroes.

    • @kreteman7779
      @kreteman7779 5 років тому +53

      david h Hero's? Wow, you have a low bar.

    • @dwafieuafoa7272
      @dwafieuafoa7272 5 років тому +21

      Hey Graham! I'm not sure if you remember me from your channel! Can't believe I saw you here.

    • @vjbragae
      @vjbragae 5 років тому +24

      Wasnt expecting to find you 🤔

    • @jajasmile4473
      @jajasmile4473 5 років тому +16

      Graham Stephan there's a vast difference between investing and active trading he is mixing to two when they are different . The trading strategies is calling studying all weekend long for a year or two that's the strategy .

  • @timetoreflect1394
    @timetoreflect1394 5 років тому +1263

    You are a not salesman, you're just too honest.
    This says a lot about your character.
    Thank you, just subscribed.

    • @malpurrs
      @malpurrs 4 роки тому +4

      Time To Reflect I just subscribed too

    • @mitchgilbert6894
      @mitchgilbert6894 4 роки тому +5

      Honesty, ironically, makes the Greatest salesman.

    • @Heligoland360
      @Heligoland360 4 роки тому +3

      @@mitchgilbert6894 True, but only if what you are trying to sell is actually worthwhile.

    • @Raz0rIG
      @Raz0rIG 3 роки тому +2

      Mitch Gilbert honesty is one of the hallmarks of a great salesman but identifying needs and communication of an idea and the being able to articulate why it benefits them is essentially what sales people do. Requires active listening skills even to what’s not said. You could have the most honest person but that doesn’t automatically that person make sales

    • @Raz0rIG
      @Raz0rIG 3 роки тому

      @TailsEngineUnited I never claimed a salesman should tell you every detail. But they should be transparent to the degree that is not cheating them. The same way you wouldn’t tell a girl you’re dating all the unnecessary details of your life. That’s not being honest that is just over sharing unnecessary details.
      However there is a boundary that you should keep in that you don’t mislead or be dishonest with your customer and is not to be conflated with having to tell your customer unnecessary details. When you frame anything in sales or in life you put your best foot forward obviously but to be a salesman with integrity you still are honest.
      If you feel that your industry has to cheat or mislead people to get sales perhaps it’s a dying business and/or illegitimate business model. Not everything is profitable in business. You would not accept a doctor telling you they push pills just to juice their customers of revenue instead of actually caring and fixing the root cause of their Heath problems would you, morally speaking. You’d tell them they should either change their business model or stop cheating people and killing and stealing their life with pills.
      If you don’t value integrity then this conversation is a lost cause.

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky 3 роки тому +289

    Plain Bagel: "Investing won't make you rich. Probably."
    Me: "Excuse you?"
    Plain Bagel: "At least, not in the short term."
    Me: "Ahhhh! Carry on."

  • @Taylormiller1300
    @Taylormiller1300 4 роки тому +52

    You know. I’ve never commented on a UA-cam video before, but today that changes. Thanks for doing what you do. I’m completely new to the world of investment and I can already tell as a visual learner your channel is going to be my saving grace. You make this fun and easy. All while being up front, honest, offering data backed evidence, and your own level headed logic in a field that is so often shrouded in deceit or mystery. I wish you continued success!

  • @Olav3D
    @Olav3D 4 роки тому +314

    “Spend $500 on my course and learn how to play in a zero/negative-sum game and become a millionaire like me. Oh, how did I make my money? Selling courses” -Every financial youtuber ever

    • @subscribetomyyoutubechanne1543
      @subscribetomyyoutubechanne1543 4 роки тому +14

      10000000% agree
      Every one is scammer on UA-cam in the matter of courses specially Tai Lopez & Grant Cardone

  • @hwang1607
    @hwang1607 4 роки тому +909

    i WILL be a millionaire someday, even if It costs me billions to get there

    • @user-tm8rc2qu1r
      @user-tm8rc2qu1r 3 роки тому +3

      why ?

    • @sbusisompanza2321
      @sbusisompanza2321 3 роки тому +2

      😹😹🤘

    • @brownpunk1794
      @brownpunk1794 3 роки тому +14

      LMFAO..good one

    • @ArtHoward
      @ArtHoward 3 роки тому +12

      "I got holes in my shoes
      I got holes in my teeth
      I got holes in my socks
      I can't get no sleep
      I'm trying to make a million"
      -- Bon Scott, AC/DC

    • @deevog
      @deevog 3 роки тому

      Your awesome

  • @SwordCurseTv
    @SwordCurseTv 4 роки тому +129

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it -Aristotle
    Just putting this up here in hopes that you will never be discouraged in posting these kinds of videos :) You are truly a genuine good person, I hope your videos like this will inspire a lot more people to have the same character and pureness like you or even greater :D
    Clearly you already have inspired me :)

  • @whoeverwhoever400
    @whoeverwhoever400 4 роки тому +170

    then 51 yrs later, the $1M you dreamt of when you were 15 would probably be only worth $500K.

    • @hoster-ph5ru
      @hoster-ph5ru 3 роки тому +17

      Probably less

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh 3 роки тому +9

      Inflation

    • @FractalNoize
      @FractalNoize 3 роки тому +27

      that's why you always calculate the average inflation when you are planning for financial freedom or just good survival income during that age.

    • @JustATotalNerd
      @JustATotalNerd 3 роки тому +15

      Still a hell of a lot better than the 0 plus hundreds of thousands of debt a lot of other people will have

    • @theone9791
      @theone9791 3 роки тому +2

      @@JustATotalNerd Bruh u realise the avarage person in th US is networth is around 400k meaning after all that ur still the same as somone who worked at an insurance company

  • @AwesumBear
    @AwesumBear 4 роки тому +1176

    here's how to become a millionaire through investing: start with 2 million

    • @lumberjackbjh
      @lumberjackbjh 4 роки тому +37

      Awesum Bear or invest $800 a month for 30 years

    • @WitchLuw
      @WitchLuw 4 роки тому +6

      @@lumberjackbjh a good day trader

    • @TheBlueMember
      @TheBlueMember 4 роки тому +2

      But you still should be rich enough to have that capital or income per month. So the claim for poor people that investing won't make rich probably is way more logical and understandable than a claim given by the UA-camr who has many more subscribers for what reason.

    • @maximax2397
      @maximax2397 4 роки тому

      ahahhaahhahh Nice one ,Bear

    • @salmaanbhimji5771
      @salmaanbhimji5771 4 роки тому

      Haha ok warren

  • @jaygeeth341
    @jaygeeth341 4 роки тому +248

    Finally, someone spoke the truth. Thank you. People need more of this and less of how to be a millionaire before 30 with $100.

    • @mynamejeb8743
      @mynamejeb8743 3 роки тому +8

      sickens me how many brokerage companies try to pull this b.s

  • @jrkc9218
    @jrkc9218 4 роки тому +18

    I appreciate the ACTUAL good faith you put in people. Protecting us against the "get rich quick schemes" Very much appreciated. Thank you for keeping me level headed.

  • @SwordCurseTv
    @SwordCurseTv 4 роки тому +10

    That was so sincere and well said. You are such a pure and wholesome person. I hope you a lot of people are grateful for what you do.

  • @fitrianhidayat
    @fitrianhidayat 4 роки тому +292

    This is a rare channel. Most others will sell you dreams, but not this guy, he's telling the truth.

    • @blixx87
      @blixx87 4 роки тому +6

      Meanwhile I’m bitcoin rich

    • @zType2
      @zType2 4 роки тому +5

      Shit it aint gonna make you rich but it will make you a free man/woman if you start early.

    • @Steve-jobs-died-of-Ligma
      @Steve-jobs-died-of-Ligma 4 роки тому

      Fitrian Hidayat
      I want to like but it’s at 69

    • @burkles4456
      @burkles4456 2 роки тому

      And now I’m depressed :D

    • @lucianocastillo694
      @lucianocastillo694 2 роки тому

      @@burkles4456 don’t be, dreams will keep you learning, working.

  • @plumbaic1376
    @plumbaic1376 4 роки тому +387

    I don't usually comment on videos but this is really true. Especially in this world full of ads and instant gratification mentality.
    “Investing should be more like watching paint dry or watching grass grow. If you want excitement, take $800 and go to Las Vegas.”
    -Paul Samuelson

  • @Imposter135
    @Imposter135 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for this, really hammered the idea of there are no shortcuts without side effects. Love the well needed dose of honesty.

  • @jgkgintx
    @jgkgintx 4 роки тому

    Very well done, you make a number of good points. I am more than tired of "Click below to get my top 3 stocks." When you do that, they ask for your email, and then they and their cohorts bombard you with all kinds of get rich schemes, etc. I spent a solid hour today "unsubscribing" from various and sundry emails related to investing. Think I'll keep watching your videos. BTW, I'm a brand new subscriber after watching only two of your videos. You're very honest and open, good qualities to have and to share. Keep up the good work.
    John (in Texas)

  • @jayhay1237
    @jayhay1237 5 років тому +853

    Nice dose of reality in a world of overselling. Always remember: if you invest $2 and suffer a 50% decline (=$1), you're portfolio must return 100% just to break even! Investing is like building muscle; slow and steady growth. Beware of the steroid shortcuts and all associated side effects.

    • @thingshappen9199
      @thingshappen9199 5 років тому +24

      I could sell my house, my car, my tv, my wife and invest it all.....and then get a regular full time job paying $11/hr and start leaving in a $700 / mnthly rent room and also live frugally so i can also invest some of my paycheck. Wait 10 yrs and i'm rich!!!!!!

    • @kenvischi1047
      @kenvischi1047 4 роки тому +2

      love the analogy

    • @m.morininvestor9920
      @m.morininvestor9920 4 роки тому

      @@thingshappen9199 DO IT

    • @Chrisss6311
      @Chrisss6311 4 роки тому +1

      Jay Hay123 or you could look at that as an opportunity to dollar cost down

    • @rogjerr
      @rogjerr 4 роки тому +2

      If you dip 50%, why keep holding to $0 ?? Learn to cut your losses.

  • @seattlegrrlie
    @seattlegrrlie 4 роки тому +546

    It's a long game. I started investing when I was 24 and currently have about half a million. Plenty of years until I retire. During that period, I've heard so many people tell me life is short, spend it, you might not live, what if you die, etc etc. Patience is the key (and patience saves you taxes too)

    • @kin4608
      @kin4608 3 роки тому +27

      wow thats impressive, if you don’t mind, how much money did you start with and how old were you? I just want to have a similar amount

    • @kin4608
      @kin4608 3 роки тому +3

      @Vivek Ghosh You asking me?

    • @kin4608
      @kin4608 3 роки тому +1

      @Vivek Ghosh 20...

    • @namesplease4350
      @namesplease4350 3 роки тому +11

      Puerto Rico can save you taxes too lmao

    • @westside786asy
      @westside786asy 3 роки тому +1

      How much did you start with?

  • @zethbanta2120
    @zethbanta2120 3 роки тому +155

    The Plain Bagel: "2018 was a crazy year"
    2020: aM I a JoKE To yUo

  • @mbeeck
    @mbeeck 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent video. True gem. Congratulations for opening up these thoughts. They might prevent some people from going through financial hardships or "expectation hangovers".

  • @apope06
    @apope06 4 роки тому +767

    9.8% can make you a millionaire it just takes decades.

    • @TheMystery51
      @TheMystery51 4 роки тому +134

      And a higher initial investment. It takes money to make money. A 9.8% return will only make the rich richer. The poor, less poor.

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 4 роки тому +91

      I've never seen anyone say their investing strategy is putting aside 10 000, never saving anything again and then becoming rich off of that 10 000 in a few years. I'm sure foolish people like that exist but most people that get into investing know it takes time and consistent saving

    • @melonusk6120
      @melonusk6120 4 роки тому +16

      millionaires in decades then mean nothing cuz inflation and lose of money worth

    • @stephencardone7549
      @stephencardone7549 4 роки тому +35

      Your right man. What are you 30 years old? If you buy a $3000 car and get rid of that 300$ per month car payment, you could invest that $300 at 9.8% and have 1 million dollars when you retire. That's starting from 0$. If your 25 you'll have 1.6 million. This youtuber is wrong.

    • @gerRule
      @gerRule 4 роки тому +25

      Stephen Cardone the point is you’re not getting 9.8% and if you did that’s before any of those monthly fees and the capital gains tax when you finally sell

  • @seendoo8393
    @seendoo8393 3 роки тому

    Man, you are the best. If you look up investing on youtube a bunch of ads come up. Thank you.

  • @MrBardug
    @MrBardug 3 роки тому +1

    I really understand your point, tried before to follow someone with his unique way of investing and lost some money, you said that if someone can sell his strategy to a hedge fund he would do that and not trying to sell it to everyone else with a youtube add, that is obviously correct and I didn't think about it until now.
    thanks - just subscribed to your channel.

  • @GeraldDeBelen
    @GeraldDeBelen 5 років тому +53

    TL,DR: Investing ALONE won't make you rich. It is the regular SAVING habit to increase your capital for INVESTING.
    Good insight, Richard! Some people want to get rich by investing alone but don't want to be fiscally sound in their personal finances which in turn can end up any rich man broke.

  • @tobago528
    @tobago528 5 років тому +398

    You already have my respect, don't worry your IKEA furniture doesn't throw me off, it shows that you are not trying to act rich to get attention. And with that mentality you it makes me more confident that what you say is genuine and reliable information. Thank you for yourself :)

    • @ZacharyBittner
      @ZacharyBittner 5 років тому +12

      Yeah, I actually found this channel because I was looking for accurate academic investment and financial information and avoided those guys with fancy things and empty promises like the plague

    • @raventhorX
      @raventhorX 4 роки тому +4

      Have you seen how expensive IKEA furniture is despite how fragile it is?

    • @21khaila21
      @21khaila21 4 роки тому

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    • @21khaila21
      @21khaila21 4 роки тому

      22

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      @21khaila21 4 роки тому

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  • @forrestspellman
    @forrestspellman 4 роки тому +2

    Phenomenal video, I love the idea of acknowledging that the more I learn about investing, the less I truly know. So great to hear someone ground that into reality.

  • @honlee9853
    @honlee9853 3 роки тому +1

    One of the best and honest videos on investing I’ve seen in awhile. Thank you sir.

  • @RamTalks
    @RamTalks 5 років тому +165

    Lots of these gurus take advantage of the lack of knowledge and despair that reigns the vast majority of their followers. They know how to coax and win over them to stack up fast throughout marketing techniques, good results and vivid speeches that turn these people to make emotion-driven decisions.
    Yet, they will never show you the relative frequency of losers with respect to winners. They frame down the few ones whose success is merely decent and subsequently magnify it. That´s a shame. As you mentioned in the video, the game is not about getting rich quick or being a millionaire, but about setting up strategies to attain our financial goals. Thank you for being so real, Richard! Peace out.

    • @HowMoneyWorks
      @HowMoneyWorks 5 років тому +2

      Hence my suggestion, to make a video on why those day traders who use technical analysis mostly under perform compared to the index (S&P 500). I'm tired of the Tim Sykes and the likes coercing people into buying their programs. Buy SPY shares (*not official investment advice*) and sit on your ass.

    • @wanashthegash
      @wanashthegash 5 років тому

      @@HowMoneyWorks most do, but not everyone, its just because they are overtrading, and also overanalysing what they are buying, and also buys shitty companies.
      SPY is gonna correct, and probably in for more downwards movement, better getting out of spy, dont wanna sit thru a correction, of course, it will get up again, but it could take YEARS, better of selling when you are in the green and buying in lower when its done correcting.
      Just buying SPY shares is not that good of an advice either, maybe for the average person who dont care, and just want to put there money somewhere.

    • @libertarian4323
      @libertarian4323 4 роки тому

      @@wanashthegash There are plenty of multimillionaires who do nothing more than invest steadily in index funds. Market timing doesn't work.

  • @Marc-uw4lw
    @Marc-uw4lw 4 роки тому +131

    "admit you're a terrible investor". My favourite thing I've heard about investing recently. Great video and impartiality

  • @abdullahalmosalami2373
    @abdullahalmosalami2373 3 роки тому +7

    Ok. This is one of those videos everyone getting into investing must watch. I am very thankful for watching this.

  • @brahmcasual8554
    @brahmcasual8554 4 роки тому

    You did a really great job in this video explaining about forming expectations from investing..
    Very few UA-cam channels are that much honest .👏👏👏

  • @ChocoOrange1
    @ChocoOrange1 5 років тому +97

    Actually, your IKEA furniture is what inspires me to invest!

  • @beaviswealth
    @beaviswealth 5 років тому +299

    Important vid. Great to keep it realistic for beginners!

    • @rinseco
      @rinseco 5 років тому +1

      I'm just getting started in investiments, i intend to do kind of what warren buffet did, like, Buy and hold for 15+ years.... do you think it's a good strategy for begginer?

    • @jldstuff393
      @jldstuff393 5 років тому +1

      Not just for beginners... Equity fund managers could learn from this video.

    • @jldstuff393
      @jldstuff393 5 років тому

      ​@@rinseco Warren Buffett gives a lot of advice for beginning investors. Google quotes by him, it's really helpful. Also I think he would say buy and hold SPY forever. That's actually his instructions for his estate for after he passes-- to not actively manage his money, just put it in SPY.

    • @huyduong5716
      @huyduong5716 5 років тому +1

      Very honest. I’m a subscriber here. 👍👍

    • @lancefisher8392
      @lancefisher8392 5 років тому

      @@rinseco Your arsolutrey right. Warren Buffett is a good example for all

  • @stephenbutzler285
    @stephenbutzler285 3 роки тому

    Thanks dude. Covering the entire range of investing acumen is important. Saying something obvious to some people is saying something new to others. And I appreciate both the reinforcement OR hearing it for the first time.

  • @oscarcamacho5407
    @oscarcamacho5407 4 роки тому +4

    I got into investing in stocks in 2018 at the age of 18. I started with only a few hundred dollars and everything stated in this video has been nearly 100% accurate with my own experience. I became naive with the tech stock rally and thought they could never have a bad week. Then I sold when the market tumbled in Nov. 2018 and cashed out at a loss because I needed the money. I spent 2 years staying away from the market and decided to give it another shot. Now with some lessons to learn from and a slightly better understanding of finance through this channel and through my university courses. You have no idea how badly I needed to watch a video like this and I didn’t even know I needed it.

  • @hobbesthebrainslug12
    @hobbesthebrainslug12 5 років тому +243

    I dont particularly care about being rich, I just want to live a decent life without having to work a third of my time away for it (to make someone else rich)

    • @diogofarias1822
      @diogofarias1822 4 роки тому +9

      Same here.

    • @orangeVSappel
      @orangeVSappel 4 роки тому +60

      Really.. my financial goal is to be able to generate just enough passive income that covers my most basic bills so that I won't have to worry much about housing, car, and food.

    • @gabrielprelaz1290
      @gabrielprelaz1290 3 роки тому +11

      THATS THE GOAL BOY

    • @edward279
      @edward279 3 роки тому +9

      Finally someone said it. I just want enough for food, bills, cheap car and small home. Not these mansions with like 20 bedrooms and 15 bathrooms and a sports car with a rocket booster 😂

    • @ravisingh-jk1yp
      @ravisingh-jk1yp 3 роки тому

      That's what riches mean

  • @Gamefox0
    @Gamefox0 5 років тому +80

    I feel your frustration. I’m new to this game and since watching videos like yours I’ve noticed a significant spike in “those” ads. It’s really easy to see how these aggressive tactics can manipulate people. Almost enough to explain the Lamborghini in the background... Your knowledge is helping those you reach. Don’t be disheartened.

    • @gerRule
      @gerRule 4 роки тому +1

      Same here, every ad is about getting rich quick, one ad i seen yesterday was just some guy driving fast to everyplace he needed to go in his obviously rented Lamborghini

    • @gerRule
      @gerRule 4 роки тому +1

      He used that lambo in every shot as if he wanted to get his money’s worth from the rental price 🤣

  • @FootyFinnTV
    @FootyFinnTV 4 роки тому

    Working my way back over some of your videos and I have to say this one was exceptional.

  • @anthonyquintanilla6033
    @anthonyquintanilla6033 2 роки тому

    Really love hearing you call out the shitty ads promising financial freedom / trading strategies that make a lot of money and then get multiple ads saying the same exact thing. Spot on!

  • @ThePlainBagel
    @ThePlainBagel  5 років тому +43

    Happy Friday everyone! Interested to see if anyone has ever tried one of the mentioned trading programs; what was your experience if you have? Also curious if people agree or disagree with any of my points.

    • @jonass9347
      @jonass9347 5 років тому +5

      I agree, i am saving 10% of my total income after taxes no matter what happens or what wishes i might have.
      I am happy with anything that is higher than 4% profit anyday.
      Investing is just like a savings Account for me, 3% is meh - 4% good and 5% i am happy.
      And investing wont replace ur work, if you are a average Joe inregards to ur capital.
      My believes, but hey I am young and might naive - but this way i am happy and stay sane.

    • @deinekes9
      @deinekes9 5 років тому +8

      Bless you for telling the real hard truths. Honesty is the best thing you can give people. People ought to be instantly suspicious of any get-rich-quick scheme salesman.

    • @BoutiquedasLampadas
      @BoutiquedasLampadas 5 років тому +2

      Hi, I really like your videos.
      I keep hearing about , this strategy where you invest let's say 300 $ every month in index funds and you never sell. I have read this strategy in a some books. What you think about it ?. I hope my explanation is good enough. Keep up with the good work

    • @murarikaushik33
      @murarikaushik33 5 років тому +4

      @@BoutiquedasLampadas Excellent. If you follow this strategy (putting away as much as you can), you'll be more than satisfied in 30 years' time. Don't forget to re-invest your dividends.. that's where the majority of long term growth in your Portfolio will come from.

    • @leylinsigma9423
      @leylinsigma9423 5 років тому +1

      You sound like Martin shkrelli. UA-cam channel on investment.

  • @CommandoMaster
    @CommandoMaster 5 років тому +84

    Compound interest is amazing! If you invested your money at 7% per year, you would double your initial investment every 10 years.

    • @Block_BB
      @Block_BB 5 років тому +12

      I agree, it is amazing. But it will never make you rich, which is exactly the point of this video. Then, of course, it depends a lot on what you define as "being rich". If you take his example: you invest 10k today. You say that with 7%, every 10 years you double your investment, which is correct (slightly less if you do the math). So given these numbers, after 10 years you earn 10k extra. It is amazing because it is "free" money, but I think we all agree that 10k more in your bank account after 10 year has nothing to do with the idea of "getting rich". Plus you need to consider inflation, which is usually 2%, meaning 10k more would be actually worth 8.33k in 10 years (remember that inflation compounds too). Then if you want to be millionaire out of your 10k investment, you will need 95 years (considering inflation). Good luck with that! Finally: we are assuming you constantly get 7% every year for 95 years, which is impossible. Several years you are going to lose money because that is how the market works, so it is likely to require more than 95 years in reality. In addition to that, inflation is very likely to be much higher than 2%. The average annual inflation rate in US over the last 20 years was 3.22%. Bottom line: you are more likely to die much before you make 1 million.
      I love this video because it forces you to think, be a bit realistic and realize how many lies and scams are written and told around. All these "get rich quick" schemes work only to the seller, who gets money from books, online courses, youtube videos and other marketing tools. If somebody has a magic recipe to get rich quick, I bet he will spent all his time to use it for himself, rather than using up his time to make videos, prepare courses, writing books, etc. I agree with every point of this video, which is summarized by the title: "Investing won't make you rich (probably)". The word "probably" makes sense because you have a very little chance to be extremely lucky and make some real money out of an investment, but it is like winning a lottery. The reality is that you won't. You want to be rich? Do as he said: save! The more you save, the more you can built wealth. Then you slowly invest part of your saving (expecting normal market-like returns) and you slowly built wealth. That's recipe. You are not going to be rich tomorrow, but if you focus more on saving (meaning increasing your incomes and decreasing your expenses), than you are very likely to make one million in one or more decades.
      Great video by the way.

    • @guyshipman6646
      @guyshipman6646 5 років тому +11

      The “rule of 72” - Divide the interest rate into 72 and the answer will tell you how quickly your money will double. IE: 10% interest rate into 72, your money will double every 7.2 years.

    • @ChimpRevolution
      @ChimpRevolution 4 роки тому +2

      @@Block_BB well that more of assumes you never put anymore money in it takes like 40-50 years but you can make over a million just takes long

    • @Block_BB
      @Block_BB 4 роки тому +1

      @@ChimpRevolution I agree. My point is that 50, 40 or even 30 years is not a "get rich quick" recipe, but it is what honestly takes to built wealth and what we should focus on. Part of the real recipe, as you write, is to costantly invest money, ideally every month. But first you need to save every month :)

    • @ChimpRevolution
      @ChimpRevolution 4 роки тому +1

      @@Block_BB yeah of course I understand it's not a get rich quick. I currently have a emergency fund setup and about 1000 dollars in my brokerage account however every month I add $100 to it plus if I'm under budget I invest what I saved

  • @rrralpop157
    @rrralpop157 3 роки тому

    this is one of the most sincere sharing i've ever see. I thank you for that.

  • @mr.c6674
    @mr.c6674 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent and straight forward video. Thank you for making it. You helped push my current investing ideas back to reality. I'm 53 (2021), and wish I had invested when I was younger. Unfortunately for me, it's a bit too late. I'm not broke. Just wish I had more to do any and everything beyond the basics.
    Younger viewers, invest safely, but do it NOW, and don't expect $$$$$ in just a couple of years. Be patient.

  • @garysimpson7326
    @garysimpson7326 4 роки тому +59

    Look dude … I've been investing for 30+ years. It works. It takes time but it works. But to get things started, you must live beneath your means.

    • @austinchaney3041
      @austinchaney3041 3 роки тому +2

      Gig em

    • @TheVirtualStealth
      @TheVirtualStealth 3 роки тому +20

      I think he just worded the title very poorly in an attempt to get views. He knows investing works but what he's trying to say is that investing won't give you the MTV Cribs lifestyle unless you make a lot of money and put it to work.

    • @maryamm8379
      @maryamm8379 3 роки тому

      Yeah that’s what he said

    • @aqwandrew6330
      @aqwandrew6330 3 роки тому +2

      You need capital...

    • @somregularguy
      @somregularguy 3 роки тому

      But that’s not at all what he said, it’s true you can definitely get lucky and do so well that you retire at 30, but that’s most likely not gonna happen and that’s what he said, if you do it right you’ll still make some money like the example he gave you invest $1,000 and make a 100% return... that’s great but $1,000 profit doesn’t make you rich, it works and it’s something everyone should learn about and try

  • @andresj.s.3568
    @andresj.s.3568 4 роки тому +21

    Your honesty is priceless. Everyone should watch this video. Loved it!

  • @shafiqkarim2207
    @shafiqkarim2207 3 роки тому

    you are the man. the first financial advising channel i have ever subscribed( and indeed this is not the first video of yours that I have watched)

  • @joakin88
    @joakin88 4 роки тому

    I absolutely love your total sincerity backed up by what Jack Bogle called the relentless rules of humble arithmetic. Great channel. I'm in.

  • @aexiong1190
    @aexiong1190 5 років тому +59

    This man speaks the hard truth! Keep up the good work!

  • @ken_yap
    @ken_yap 4 роки тому +8

    You’re doing a great service to people who watch this video. You’ll probably save hundreds of people from being scammed by those scammy “I will teach you to be rich” programs and people from being burned and losing money in the stock market just because the mass media keep telling us that we can become rich from investing so we jump head first into stock investing when in fact investing is just to maintain (from inflation) or probably increase just slightly one’s wealth. Love this kind of videos and keep up the great work! 👍🏻🙌🏻

  • @SwissSareth
    @SwissSareth 3 роки тому

    Can I just say it's a pleasure to listen to somebody reasonable, for a change, while everybody is going crazy, right now?
    I know you made this video a year ago, but it's still nice to hear it.

  • @n0MC
    @n0MC 3 роки тому +2

    Love the honest, down to earth reality check. keep making those mate

  • @lfndias
    @lfndias 5 років тому +14

    the video everyone should watch. you had my attention, now you have my respect, sir.

  • @goofmonkey7325
    @goofmonkey7325 5 років тому +81

    Thk man im 17 and I've been learning about stocks through your video's i really like your content 👍

    • @elmateo77
      @elmateo77 4 роки тому +3

      Start early, invest in index funds through a tax-exempt account (Roth IRA or 401k if you're in the US). When you're retirement age you'll be glad you did.

  • @ericandersen612
    @ericandersen612 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation. A lot of us have heard these pints before but it is always good to have a reminder to not allow your expectations and dreaming of hitting it big to get in the way of making smart decisions. You also said it very well.
    Thank you

  • @justicedtson9021
    @justicedtson9021 3 роки тому

    I’m two videos in and I’m pretty sure we would get along really really well. You’re saying almost exactly what I’ve been saying to new investors for years. Definitely get the subscribe

  • @Juan_Hernandez_Jr.
    @Juan_Hernandez_Jr. 5 років тому +6

    I gave you a thumbs up because I appreciate the information. People need to realize that ther is no "secret" to getting wealthy. I will also say that just because you "may lose", doesn't mean you shouldn't invest.

  • @BAIGAMING
    @BAIGAMING 4 роки тому +63

    4:10 But man, a million from nothing is amazing even though it takes like 5 decades. Now imagine if you combine some income with that savings and how quick you can get that to a million.

    • @FractalNoize
      @FractalNoize 3 роки тому +23

      thats is called proper financial planning for the old age.

    • @avarice4556
      @avarice4556 2 роки тому

      I can barely invest where I live

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 2 роки тому

      @@FractalNoize Is all retirement funding in US entirely optional, or why is everyone so worried of their old age income there?
      Living in Finland there's a slice of every paycheck you get going into retirement fund, whether you want it or not. So when I retire, assuming I keep my house and job, I should be able to live at least decently without any optional savings from my part.
      Sure I do save money, but not for old age. I don't think I will be able to enjoy much of riches at 70... Not at least if I don't change drastically my lifestyle in next 20 years.

    • @LucaPizzoplus
      @LucaPizzoplus 2 роки тому

      @@jhutt8002 don't know much about the US but in Italy there's a mandatory retirement fund too, the problem is that it won't be enough if you want to do exciting stuff, travel and other. The key is understanding how much you are willing to sacrifice for your retirement, you don't want to live like a cockroach the majority of your life or youth just to have money when you are 70 but you don't also want to spend your last days in a miserable way

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 2 роки тому

      @@LucaPizzoplus I must say I've never thought of that.
      My view of perfect retirement would be to just stay at home doing all those fun hobbies I never have time now: Play and compose music, hunt, write a book, play games, fix cars, watch all those movies on my list and listen records I've meant to... etc...
      I don't need money for retirement. Just enough to pay food, house, and few bits and parts now and then to maintenance my stuff.

  • @tjd321654
    @tjd321654 3 роки тому +2

    Hey Plain Bagel, what you said is true and perhaps worthy of many people to pause and think. Please continue to educate and share your ideas, in a world filled with instant gratification and short term mindset, we need many many voice like yours to break through the fog and guide. Cheers!

  • @lisoulja1
    @lisoulja1 3 роки тому

    @ The Plain Bagel, I appreciate suggestion.
    I have struggled recently deciding on parting with stock investment or not. Obviously need alternatives, but simply saving is foundation.

  • @panico9114
    @panico9114 5 років тому +4

    Loved it! This is the exact same argument that I have with my friends that are uneducated in finance

  • @nathanielcodina4056
    @nathanielcodina4056 5 років тому +5

    Great video. I think it’s about time someone talked about this. I view investing as a way to make my money growing for the future but realistically I know I won’t get rich off of it. One more thing I view saving money and investing as intertwined. I can’t invest if I do t save my money.

  • @abhinavdwivedi2678
    @abhinavdwivedi2678 3 роки тому

    Omg you are soo honest dude i just loved the way you exposed those fame gurus literally hats off to you. Someone is still making educational content and not looting people. Respect sir.🥺🥺

  • @cobyd8490
    @cobyd8490 3 роки тому

    I'm glad I waited till the end of the video to comment. I see exactly what you're saying now. Thanks for the perspective.

  • @dwalsh5925
    @dwalsh5925 4 роки тому +15

    Feel like he’s talking to me, “the little guy”....and doing a good job of it. He’s helping me get a good foundation in the basics of the financial markets and the inner workings . This episode certainly laid the correct “expectation mindset” to us 401k participants.... i.e. we’re not day traders! But that doesn’t stop us from learning as much as we can.

  • @Swoldridge
    @Swoldridge 5 років тому +6

    Great video. More people need to see this video. Sharing to everyone I know that invests.

  • @andrewdussault2315
    @andrewdussault2315 3 роки тому +4

    This is my second time watching this. It autoplayed today, after I got pretty excited/emotional looking at stocks over the past couple days. I think I should watch this every couple of months or so to keep me sober.

  • @relaxmate7153
    @relaxmate7153 3 роки тому +2

    Very good of you to educate the masses so they don't get scammed as easily, thank you sir you're doing an amazing job!

  • @TajBanana
    @TajBanana 5 років тому +4

    Very surprised that your channel has only 30k subscribers. What you say is true for majority of investors and people always think that they can out perform the market. Keep up your good work and continue educating people!

  • @apnasapnamoneymoney1606
    @apnasapnamoneymoney1606 5 років тому +16

    I can say this is one of the best video on investing

  • @JimmyJoseph1295
    @JimmyJoseph1295 4 роки тому

    Thank you for being honest. First video I've watched and have subscribed and continue to hear more. You still know more than me about investing😂

  • @shoaibyounus
    @shoaibyounus 3 роки тому

    Thanks for setting up right expectations for people. Really appreciate an honest opinion. I think, investment can be considered an account where you keep adding frequently over time and you will gain some reasonable appreciation + dividend and it can accumulate over time to make you some good amount but certainly its not a get rich quick thing. It will take time guys, probably a lifetime to get have some handsome amount saved and accumulated.

  • @RoadToRetire25
    @RoadToRetire25 5 років тому +44

    I'm glad an instagrammer brought me to this vid. It's well-made and I enjoyed it. I pretty much treat my portfolio like an aggressive savings account with daily deposits. The act of putting money in for me is more important than the returns I'm getting. I'd rather gain 1% than spend my money on dumb items

  • @diegoben91
    @diegoben91 5 років тому +87

    Investing is for Long term and passive income . Hard to get rich by investing 😂

    • @MichaelReed609
      @MichaelReed609 5 років тому +1

      @Olivia P realized gains. Yes, welcome to a higher bracket. Give us more money.

    • @gerRule
      @gerRule 4 роки тому

      Monthly fees, capital gains tax, inflation, making stupid decisions and going backwards, people only focus on the financial gains that are not as quick as you’d hope but never on what it’s going to cost them in the long run

  • @bjornthorstefansson7345
    @bjornthorstefansson7345 3 роки тому

    I love how genuine you are, you really care about your viewer i feel.

  • @antonomaseapophasis5142
    @antonomaseapophasis5142 3 роки тому +7

    “I turned $12,415 into 7 figures.”
    Now ask me where I am putting the decimal point!

  • @SOMEONE-eq5bu
    @SOMEONE-eq5bu 5 років тому +4

    All your videos are perfect 👌
    Especially this one
    This video that you called unorganized
    it was more enjoyable cuz you were talking kinda informal
    Thanks for sharing all this knowledge

  • @wenl4901
    @wenl4901 5 років тому +5

    You’re good man! More young people need to have financial education:)

  • @brandonguillen3504
    @brandonguillen3504 4 роки тому

    I’m so great full for this video! Always looking for ways to build wealth. I started looking into investing in stocks etc.. but this clears it all up. I should be focusing on multiple ways to increase my revenue stream in a sustainable fashion, then save as much as possible. And probably invest it in less risky investments.

  • @TheJmdjmdjoe
    @TheJmdjmdjoe 4 роки тому +2

    Well said!! I was also getting frustrated with all this quick money advertising!!

  • @HowMoneyWorks
    @HowMoneyWorks 5 років тому +4

    Make a video on how day traders usually do worse than the S&P500 does passively (fees & overconfidence)

  • @tayatzmayes
    @tayatzmayes 5 років тому +4

    Great vid. Plain and honest. 👍

  • @Tgogators
    @Tgogators 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video! and a way to look at it too is that many people with wealth spend less AND have multiple lines of income, some of which are often (not always) investments. Some people think that if they invest $1,000 worth of shares and/or index funds that in a few short years (5 max. I've heard that number before) they'll be able to sell those and buy a 37 inch yacht with cash. It's being in it for the long term and willing & able to wait out the highs and lows of the market. Most quit active investing within 6 months and/or get too scared when numbers fall and begin selling.
    People also think that leaving cash in a jar for a few decades will add value when in fact it is very very likely slowly eroding in value.

  • @azharishahri
    @azharishahri 3 роки тому

    The best and honest explanation. Short and sweet. Makes things really easy to understand. Thanks. U just earn urself a fan!

  • @KingChocobo
    @KingChocobo 2 роки тому +8

    I can't stop laughing, there was 5 ads all about the type of ads he said to avoid and not listen too 😂

  • @kjmcf68
    @kjmcf68 3 роки тому +11

    Your intro saying "2018 was a crazy year, with things like bitcoin, the weed stock rally, tech stock rally" can be used again here in 2021!!

  • @serenadesilhout
    @serenadesilhout 4 роки тому +2

    I went to school for finance and have experience with multiple investment types and its refreshing to see someone give authentic advice with regards to investing. I try to caution people that investing is not a get rich quick scheme, its technically a savings strategy. Its good to see real financial advice for one.

  • @lambchop3916
    @lambchop3916 4 роки тому

    loved this video, just came off a binge of a bunch of your videos, just subbed.

  • @StoicAK47
    @StoicAK47 3 роки тому +21

    Bitcoin bag holder comment didn’t age well😂

    • @IrelandVonVicious
      @IrelandVonVicious 3 роки тому +2

      Yet.

    • @yashbhatt6720
      @yashbhatt6720 3 роки тому +1

      @@IrelandVonVicious checking in 2 months later when 1 btc is in the 50-60K range

    • @IrelandVonVicious
      @IrelandVonVicious 3 роки тому

      @@yashbhatt6720 It was same price when I made the comment.

    • @lilsaint91
      @lilsaint91 3 роки тому +1

      Checking in 3 months later when 1 btc is 36,500

    • @jimjon5083
      @jimjon5083 3 роки тому

      China is messing with bitcoin saying they'll remove it from circulation and regulate it to make it a non currency, to be obsolete.

  • @ahmadsarwar6814
    @ahmadsarwar6814 5 років тому +3

    Dang! I’m 18 and I just started investing in stocks last week. So glad I saw this video. Helps a lot.

  • @BeastTalksTelugu
    @BeastTalksTelugu 3 роки тому

    you got some good content bruh....i love your knowledge and passion .....just loving it....

  • @Alexthebrokkie
    @Alexthebrokkie 4 роки тому +1

    oh man ! that " am near akea forniture trying to tell you how to invest " made me become a petreon supporter , Thanks for you video mate , they're very helpful for a new entry person .

  • @alexgutierrez1962
    @alexgutierrez1962 3 роки тому +4

    this is one of the most valuable videos i've seen in this area. this reminds young people like myself to invest in what has been proven to give steady returns over time rather than just investing in something because it's trendy. and it's sad to say this but for most areas in life--including investing--what most people are doing is exactly the opposite of what you should actually be doing.

  • @JosiahTaschuk
    @JosiahTaschuk 3 роки тому +8

    The moment you said 'investments won't make you rich' I got an add from a man holding $10,000 telling me he could make me rich investing.
    Who could possibly say who is right or not 😅

  • @ImRichardShepherd
    @ImRichardShepherd 2 роки тому

    Solid video, you grumpy young guy! hahaha! I appreciate both the candor & information!

  • @teevee5233
    @teevee5233 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the info, like the topic and bringing us down to a real expectations.