FULL METAL JACKET (1987) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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Man, when she immediately seemed bummed about them losing their hair... I knew it was going to be a hard one for her to experience.
so when did you receive your military haircut?
I was actually worried about her when I saw she watched this movie.
@@davisworth5114 January 4th, 2001. I remember like it was yesterday. 6 swipes and they were done.
@@davisworth5114 March 2nd, 1996. There was a lice outbreak in my school. Cried like a child.
@@davisworth5114 July 5th 2011... Legend has it that the great lakes dragon lady who cut my hair in a matter on seconds is still there to this day
"This is an exaggeration, right?" No. The boot camp portion of this movie was 99% accurate." This from a Marine 1979-85. The only inaccuracy is that rifles are kept locked up when not in use.
I read a comment under a video of the boot camp portion, it said something like "It was pretty accurate but the drill instructor was too nice."
@@jakester455 I had four years of military school before the Marines. On the advice of my recruiter, I kept that to myself, until my senior DI wanted to know why I was drawing corporal's pay and he outed me in front of everyone. My DI's didn't faze me, I'd seen worse and they knew that, so they enlisted a DI from the adjacent platoon who looked and sounded like the original Frankenstein monster (minus the green skin). This man came over several times a week and just messed with me. I'd taken martial arts and there was a possibility I might have been able to take him, but I didn't want to risk that, or the repercussions.
Can confirm, for the most part. Marine from 01-05 but at that point the physical violence from Drill Instructors was no longer allowed. Still had the insults which really helped pass the time. Everything that happens at Boot Camp is 100% necessary.
The only thing in the boot camp part that was different from my recruit training is that none of us shot our Drill Instructor. Otherwise, it was like seeing flashbacks of MCRD San Diego.
@@SirWilliamsHand _"Everything that happens at Boot Camp is 100% necessary."_
You know who else said something along those same lines? Members of Charles Manson's cult who were pissed on, publicly raped and otherwise broken and humiliated, only to be "built back up" with the cult as the only support structure. It's "necessary" to ensure absolute loyalty and obedience... right?
Sorry, you are very likely unable to see it, but your mind has been messed with horribly, just as the minds of those cult members. Which may actually be the bigger tragedy... 😢
Retired Marine and Drill Instructor here. Gunny Ermy was a well respected Marine. This is the most accurate depiction of Marine Boot camp that civilians are alowed to see. Especially when I went through and when I was a hat. We will never show you everything, nor can you ever experience it without actually being there. This is Hollywood, but a well made and authentic movie. Semper FI
It’s based on a very very good book, the Short timers.
Written by a Marine based on his experiences, intense book.
I'd say the movie stepped back from the intensity a bit as there were not 2 or 3 other DI's in their face at the same time.
@@chappy48i remember when people were getting chewed out they would have 3 DI’s in their face and only one of them would actually be speaking words and the others were just straight up screaming in their face for the sake of causing chaos🤣
I was army Airborne Ranger then tier 1 operator went in in 86" They could still hit you back then and they did. We had the confidence course at ranger RIP they used to throw the company mascot sherman shepards cleaned up dog shit into the low crawl water mud pit I always wondered what was hitting my face crawling through it..until one day I saw a guy picking up the dog shit and dumping it in the Gig pit. lol
Parris Island grad here. 100% agree. My only nitpick about its depiction are the knots in those damn ropes. Ain't no damn knots...those were there because the actors couldn't complete the obstacle without them.
Your reaction is exactly why this is such a great film. It makes you feel icky because war is horrible and disgusting. That's the whole point.
super overrated movie
@@lessankey5287 I mean that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.. but I think this is a great film about a horrible war!! Yes it's hard to watch.... as it should be!!! but overrated it's not.
@@lessankey5287wrong
Definitely not...
@@lessankey5287
This movie tears at the soul and gives nothing in return. Not what I'd call a great film. I watched it many times(back when movie channels were limited) and hated it as a kid. Couldn't understand why everyone wanted to watch it all of the time after we graduated boot camp. The same "fans" never mentioned an interest in it again after 9/11.
The yelling is for desensitization, both to feelings (hurt feelings don't matter when people are trying to kill you) and to external stimuli (war zones are loud, messy places). It is also designed to curb a recruit's sense of self importance. This is all reinforced with other aspects of training, but definitely has a specific purpose.
EDIT: Cassie literally asked why he was yelling. I helpfully explained. So far a dozen people have told me to leave her alone. SMDH.
You forgot the most important part. By making them hate him, he is making them bond. Team building
I was called a waste of oxygen, and choked out as part of a demonstration on how to do it correctly.
@@godmagnus Never met anyone who has served that regrets what they learned in basic training.
@@CarbonPixel78 Truth
@@godmagnus It's a movie big guy.
R. Lee Ermey was a really nice person. He used to shoot with us at our monthly (civilian operated) rifle matches at MCB Camp Pendleton in the 2000's and was approachable by all. RIP Ermey.
Ever watch Mail Call and Texas Chainsaw?
He definitely was not anything like his movie portrayals. Always enjoyed spending time with him.
His grandson was in my bootcamp platoon. He was at my graduation. Super cool dude
@@coyotefever105 A big reason why that Texas Chainsaw remake is my favorite version is because of R. Lee Ermey's performance. Edit: It would absolutely traumatize PIB badly.
They renamed Ave. N in Palmdale, CA to R Lee Ermey Ave.
“Why do you have to be so cruel? So horrible?”
They’re going to see their best friend’s guts. Mean words is the least of their worries.
This chick is clueless lol, she lives in a world of rainbows and unicorns
Mean words and abusive superiors won’t help them either.
@@Apfelkind4000 As a person who has gone through both Basic Training and been in combat, what are you basing your opinion on? I am asking because Basic Training is essential to be horrible and cruel. It is meant to prepare you for combat. Think about it this way. If you are weak and so soft you can't take a little pain and people yelling at you while calling you names, you are DEFINITELY too soft to be my battle buddy when my life is on the line in a hot AO. I would rather find out you can't hack it in Basic than in combat.
Edit: Instead of punching recruits, they now make them do pushups and flutter kicks which actually makes the recruits stronger while inflicting physical pain.
@@brianeleighton
My opinion is based on 12 years experience as an army officer.
@@Apfelkind4000 Ah yes, an officer. The perfect person to teach enlisted men. Sergeants run the military.
28:33, my dad was a Ranger in Vietnam and it really messed him up. Some of the stories Dad told me of what he saw over there were seriously shocking. I used to think he was telling tall tails.
When my father passed away a few years ago, three men from his unit came to the funeral. I met them and they told me about who he was in the war. One of these men let me know that my dad wasn't exaggerating and my father had saved his life.
I had two uncles in Vietnam. Both of them were never quite the same after it. One uncle ended up eventually drinking himself to death. (And he was a mean damn drunk). We used to share stories after I got out of the Marines. I think I was one of the very few people he would talk about his time in nam with.(and he was one of the few people who understood why i would wake up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep till I checked the house and yard, and I mean I was still doing it damn near a decade after I got out of the military) The other uncle spent about the next 25 years high as a kite till the cops told him If he got busted again he was gonna spend serious time behind bars....so he switched to drinking. He makes some damn good wine but I honestly liked him better high than drunk.
A close friend of mine, who was a Marine in the Vietnam war, said this movie was the most realistic rendition of what he experienced going through bootcamp as well as his time spent in Vietnam.
well the guy was a real drill instructor
He sure was, and it shows.
Crazy my father said the opposite and he was in the battle.
I went to Parris Island in 91 and when I finally saw this movie, I SWORE that someone bought a camera to Bootcamp.....realism 100%🎯
“I could have a private who can do nine pull-ups and damn it, when I'm through talking to him, he can do 12. Why? Because I've intimidated this private so severely that I've convinced him that he can do 12 or he's going to die. That's why.” - R. Lee Ermey
That opening barracks scene is legendary, never gets old.
Vincent D'Onofrio does such a great job as Private Pyle. The way he goes from innocent, to emotionless, to talking to himself and finally to crazy scary is... Scary.
At the end of the movie, when they are singing the Mickey Mouse song, it shows you how young these marines were and what they all had in common and hanging on to as kids...thats a great move by the director...It was meant to say that the soldiers in Vietnam were mostly just kids who werent supposed to be there to begin with
And it suggests that Disney Corp. is integrated into the death machine that keeps certain groups in power. As hard as that is to believe.
@@garki1369 ooh boy
It's not like he wants to say "these poor kids!". Kubrick has always been consistent and crystal clear of what he had to say about men's evil desires, from Paths to Glory, to Clockwork Orange, The Shining, and then to Full Metal Jacket. It's to show how naive being an immature manchild(ren) and wanting to subjugate others leads to devastation of themselves and people around them. Good example: They get wrecked by a child and a literal bunnie toy.
It's a very cynical scene.
Onward Children Soldiers,
@@agarlicsorbet6482 cringe
My father was a Marine at boot camp in the 60's. He said this was absolutely the most realistic depiction he has ever seen.
1984 here...I'll agree!
I was in boot camp in 1967. This was almost exactly like what I experienced including the blanket party.. 2 guys just kept fucking us all over by not being able to hack it.
My dad told me the same thing when he went to Parris Island
I went to military school for high school and even there we mimicked many of the things from this movie, including the occasional blanket party.
I knew a Vietnam veteran, a former friend of my dad's. He saw action, was permanently disfigured from a grenade. I asked him once which movie was the most realistic version of his experiences and he named this film as well.
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Rahhhhh
Thanks for your service and your reply here. My dad served too (USMC ‘67-‘71). He didn’t do so well following his experiences. He wouldn’t, and perhaps couldn’t,watch this movie. Too hard.
Semper Fi Devil Dog.
Thank you sir for your service to our country and your incredible bravery and medals ( Wow) we salute you . 🙏❤️👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
🙏 TY for your service sir 🙏
My Grandfather was in Vietnam. He never talked about it and I knew better than to ask. He's 87 now, and I can't even begin to imagine what he seen and went through.
My Uncle(Army infantry)was in Vietnam, and my father(Navy SeaBees) was among the first boots on the ground after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Neither one would talked about what they saw, and we all knew better than to ask as well. And I still shutter to think about what they went through to get back to us!
Not just what they went through, but also the things they did.
My dad was a instructor in the Marine Corps. He was just as brutal to the recruits that's in the movie. their jobs to break them down, build them up and hope they come back home alive. If you thought he was tough on those guys, you should've been a only son, he expect the same for me. My dad was in the Korean war and He went straight to Vietnam. He always said he would served four Tours in Vietnam from one in Korean War.
Former Marine here. I can confirm that this is the most realistic reenactment of Marine Corps boot camp I've ever seen.
I agree. for the time period. True for the 90s as well, except for maybe the corporal punishment. D.I.s aren't allowed to strike recruits. That being said, I'd rather have taken a beating now and then than to have spent 30 minutes on the quarter deck with a D.I. in my face. my heart about to burst, screaming about how I'm not running in place fast enough.
@@captzero007 quarter deck sucked, but the sand pit was hell. I remember having sand in my ears for days before feeling clean again only to do it again.
what year though?
When I watched this movie for the first time I laughed uncontrollably at the boot camp scenes. I had just finished basic and I was on boot leave.
@@captzero007 you joined a cult
USA is just a branch of the English empire.
Ultimately meaningless in the vast universe
Sergeant Hartman's job is to make sure that when his recruits get to Vietnam they remember their training and employ that training without a second thought. His methods are brutal, but the lessons he teaches can determine whether or not any of the recruits come back home alive.
Sure enough.
I spent 12 years in the Army and i was also in the Gulf War. Yes you are right. A drill instructor´s job is to get the Men trained and back home alive.
The German army, during World War I, followed the Prussian military doctrine.
They believed that soldiers should be more afraid of their own officers than of the enemy.
This caused a lot of 'fragging' incidents on the German side, long before fragging was made fashionable by the US armed forces in Vietnam.
Average drill sergeant.
Considering they had cut training time down to 90 days, there was no time to be nice. These guys would be in combat. Without their training they would come home in a coffin.
Vincent D'Onofrio (Private Pyle) is such an underrated actor, in my opinion. He is a method actor, and his preparation and immersion qualify him to be mentioned in the same breath as Cruise, Pitt, and del Toro. I just love him, he is 100% convincing in every role I ever saw him act.
I'm meeting him in a few months at a con in Vancouver Canada and I'm so excited I've heard from people who've worked with him that he's super funny.
When I was in basic training, my TI's said all the things R Lee Ermey said. My reaction up to the last scene in the latrine was humor, I laughed throughout remembering my days. Funniest thing I heard while our heads were being buzzed, one of the barbers asked the guy next to me if he wanted to keep his sideburns. Of course he said yes, the barber then handed him a mess of his hair and laughed. And as a sidenote, R Lees opening dialog is the longest ad lib scene in movie history. As a longtime resident here in the Antelope Valley, R Lee was a great human devoted to the veteran community. He is missed.
When a drill Sergeant spots a weak link in the recruits they double down extra hard.
Believe it or not it's actually compassion. If the weak link washes out of basic training because "they can't take it" then the drill sergeant has saved their life.
If the weak link makes it through basic training then they are no longer a weak link. And are ready to have the back of their brothers on the battlefield.
Hartman was a sadist and a racist and he drove Pyle to murder-suicide. Amazing all these commentors are taken in by Sgt. Hartmans obscene humor, he lacked the necessary insight to see that Pyle was out of shape and too immature for service. He should have been given a general discharge under honorable conditions.
The problem is I think Pyle was there as part of McNamara's Project 100,000 program so he couldn't wash out. Otherwise, Pyle would've been thrown out on his ass by the entire company. Hartman would've gone to his superiors and expressed how necessary it was to get him out of there.
There's just something about watching one of the sweetest women in the world (you're in direct competition with your sister) watch Full Metal Jacket. It's almost heartbreaking.
It kind of reminds me of Leeloo in 'The Fifth Element' learning about war.
As much as you hated watching it we loved watching you hate watching it.
It's why I hope she never watches We Were Soldiers. It would destroy her
No it’s annoying as hell.
@@wayfarer4578 Why is it annoying?
This was a VERY accurate portrait of marine recruit training during Vietnam. Most of the harsh treatment was discouraged and some of it even forbidden. However, the training was accelerated during Vietnam and upper ranks knew this type of thing was going on and they allowed it. They had to break everyone down to the same level. To shed any pride or other bad habits from civilian life. Then they could train them starting with a clean slate. It wasn't pretty and it was often harsh. But they weren't being trained to bake cakes.
My dad was in the Marines during Vietnam and when he seen this movie I asked him why they treated the new recruits like that. His reply was they not want to only make them physically tough but mentally.
I’m also a veteran. I felt so bad watching your reaction to this film. You have a very kind heart but like they said “The Marine Corp. doesn’t want robots. The Marine Corps wants killers. The Marine Corp. wants indestructible men, men without fear.”
@@darthorion2002 da marin crops
'the marine corp wants killers' , person with legal record of killing applies and will get immediately turned down .
Doesn't make much sense when you realize robots are all of the above honestly
I get the notion, but I've always been a bit confused as to why someone would willfully subject themselves to that in order to become something so simple and single-mindedly devoted to their efficiency at committing acts of extreme violence. Maybe, MAYBE I could see it if you were fighting for a government whose motivations are clear and noble, but our own government's motivations are a very far cry from either of those two things. I know that a lot of people join up because of a vague notion of glory, duty or patriotism and I get that, but if such is the case it seems like you have a lot more work to do in figuring out who you are and where you should stand on the geopolitical issues of the world before you make such a commitment.
@@jackrussell1232 You are so right, this is a book written by a retired U.S. Marines general,: ua-cam.com/video/ej7FdCDmW6A/v-deo.html it speaks the cold facts and makes for very interesting reading. I mysel am an honorable A ndischarged U.S. Army veteran deported to Mexico since 1997, one last thing I would like to mention that the Government turns you into a klling machine to serve their purpos, but after the war the NEVER provide any assistance ro guidance as to adapt to returning to civilian life after the war!!! And I would like to commend you on speaking your piece of mind God knows that takes a lot of courage!!!
The drill sergeant is R. Lee Ermey, who was a real life sergeant who served in the Vietnam war. He improvised over half of all his lines, so the shock on the recruits faces were real reactions lol. He may seem like a heartless person in the movie, but he was a kind man in real life. So sad that he passed away a few year ago :(
He even made Kubrick stand to attention.
If I remember correctly he wasn’t the first choice for drill. The first guys lines were all scripted but it just didn’t flow right so that’s when he came in.
@@ryanhampson673 I believe the Helo Door Gunner was up for it as well
@@swdist68 yea that's the guy
Instructor.
R. Lee Ermey, who plays GSgt. Hartman, was a real life drill instructor. He improvised his entire performance with the exception of a few scripted lines. He should have won the Oscar for best supporting actor.
One of the most amazing things about this movie was the whole film was done within 50 miles of London, England including all the Vietnam scenes.
Having served myself domestically and in combat zones within the last 15 years, the reason you treat new recruits like 'maggots', as he put it, is to breakdown any and all of the ego they came into the service with. People come from all walks of life, often with misguided notions about what it takes to be a U.S. serviceman. The idea is that by making everyone equally worthless and open to ridicule, you break down who they were before they came in and build them back up by teaching them that on a battlefield, each and every one of them is equal--metaphorically (rank still exists). The man to your left and to your right is your brother, regardless of any past prejudices or notions you might have had about them. You eat together, you train together, you sleep together and you suffer together until a bond forms that teaches you to willingly give your life for the man next to you if necessary.
Unfortunately, sitting people down in a room and trying to get them to harmonize under normal circumstances just doesn't work. You can look at the state of the world and how people treat each other to get a notion of how well that would go over. By inducing stress and shining a light on the reality of what they're entering into, you get people to look past the superficial and work together to come back home safe. It's a necessary evil. Any dead weight or anyone who doesn't comply to this new way of life is likely to be the guy that gets you or someone you know killed when it counts most.
Scoop out the brains and identity. Fill the vacuum with patriotism and propaganda.
A necessary evil indeed. Makes for good soldiers, which is the goal of this machine.
This
Yes is exactly like this and in only one word it is called CAMARADERIE
@@cristianbuttafuoco9876 The horrible misconception is that US soldiers fight for country. They don't. We fought for our brothers, even those we could not stand. "I'll screw with my little brother as hard as I want...You?...You keep your filthy hands to yourself or you deal with me..."
Another way to call this is conditioning - break someone down, and then form him or her into the machine you want to get out of this training. In the end it is not about ideals, but about a militray machine that relies on orders and discipline - the definition of unquestioned hierachy. The machine has to work, so cogs have to be produced that fit in that machine. This conditioning produces not "better" men, but just functioning ones for the purpose of the military. Everything else spun around this method is maybe good for morale, or self worth - but in the end fiction.
One tiny detail really drives home the duality of man that Joker represented. Look back at the scene when Joker shoots the sniper. As he points his pistol he turns very slowly and, as he turns, the peace symbol is eclipsed by the collar of his uniform. As the peace symbol disappears, the duality also disappears, leaving only "Born to Kill" on his helmet. It is at the very instant the peace symbol is completely hidden that Joker fires, killing the sniper. After the killing, the peace symbol returns along with a good man that is now deeply damaged by the war... Kubrick was the man.
"This is my rifle, this is my gun". Recruits kept calling their RIFLE a 'gun' which is a civilian generic term for any firearm. This was part of getting them to 'join the program' by using the prescribed terminology.
Personally i think the first 40 minutes is the funniest shit ive ever seen, and you're crying at it!? LMAO
My dad was a Marine in Vietnam. He told me this was accurate, but the most accurate movie he had seen about the war was Hamburger Hill. RIP Dad. 1946-2021.
My respects to your dad. And Hamburger Hill was a brutal depiction.
My uncle was a Gunnery Sergeant in the Marines who served multi tours in Vietnam and also said the same about Hamburger Hill, and my uncle was also a DI and he spoke to us just like R.Lee, in fact my uncle would’ve busted me down just for calling the Gunny by his name “That’s Gunnery Sergeant Ermey, Numbnuts”
My dad was airborne in Vietnam. He too thought boot camp was accurate as well as the movie Hamburger Hill. He died before We Were Soldiers came out- Would’ve loved to know his opinion on that movie. He was very particular on movies about Vietnam. Especially with uniforms and if patches, ribbons, etc were authentic. Even the landscape had to be accurate.
The Hamburger Hill scenario was not typical for the average Vietnam experience of the regular US soldier.
It feels more like Korea War or even World War I, except they didn't have all that air support in those wars.
And that is why they didn't have as many friendly fire incidents.
To me, Platoon gives a better view of what the average combat soldier experienced day by day.
Not saying the big battle at the end was experienced by every US soldier but the part of trudging through the jungle, setting up ambushes, going into suspected villages, searching for weapons and VC, etc.
Semper Fi.
More often than not, people say that they much prefer the first half of the film over the second. I myself love both halves about equally, but I get why people favor the first half, especially seeing as that contains the phenomenal performances of R. Lee Ermey and Vincent D’Onofrio as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman and Private Pyle respectively.
The movie was meant to smear the USA, a nation of liberators. Ermey was so good, as he did it for a living, it stole the show. And everyone that has gone to South Carolina or Georgia knows why recruits are treated that way. And it did not reflect poorly like Kubrick wanted. I'm stating my convinced opinion, as Kubrick nor any of them in Hollywood will admit it.
I'm similar I liked how different both parts were and I enjoyed it as a whole.
/\ what you said 👌
R. Lee Ermey actually was a drill instructor before his acting career
Yeah, I'm of the opinion that the first half is almost perfect. I think it could have been perfect if the whole movie was just boot camp.
Most of the drill sergeants at the time had to look at casualty reports from Vietnam. They were used to seeing recruits that they trained on those killed in action lists.. They were hard on them in an effort to save their lives.
I just watched a recent bit about Robert McNamara. Sec of defense who sent men with various severe mental handicaps to Vietnam. Many of those men had the mental capacity of child and died horribly.
God Bless America
I had the pleasure of meeting R. Lee Ermey twice. The first time he sat with me and a few other Airmen in a bar in Omaha for about an hour telling us stories about shooting the movie. The second time was a year later in the Kansas City airport. Both times he was kind and generous with his time. He loved his fans and couldn't have been nicer.
RIP Gunny
Good to know.
Anyone I know who met him at gun shows, on the street, restaurants, etc- everyone of them say he was the sweetest person you’d ever meet and very humble/appreciative of his fame and fans. I won’t rehash how he got the part- But find it amazing how he could flip the switch and get in Marine mode. Many of those people begged him to “be a drill instructor for a moment”- and have him put them down with a line or two so they could say “Gunny ripped me a new one”. But all of them I know said he super kind at all other moments.
It was wayyyy more complicated than just “north communists, south not, send help USA.” The country had been invaded and occupied and existed in a state of war for many decades before we ever got there. Ken Burns’ documentary about it is incredible if you’re curious.
Damn that’s right! Didn’t Vietnam ask Woodrow Wilson for help?
Actually, when people do their research, you can thank the french for getting us involved in Vietnam.
I'll second the recommendation of Ken Burns' Vietnam Documentary and, although it doesn't directly cover the Vietnam War, I also recommend Oliver Stones' "Untold History of the United States for some true US History.
Vietnam will always have my respect
They fought off China, France, and the United States.
No one is taking that country
The Vietnam Wars, 1945-1990 by Marilyn B. Young is an informative read. Really depressing though.
The first part, Basic Training is to show you HOW they train and condition recruits to handle such horrific stress. The system weeds out the weak. Combat is the ULTIMATE stress, IF you can't handle basic training stress, you'll NEVER handle real combat.
i went to marine boot camp in 2002 and my experience was almost exactly as this movie depicts no exaggeration.
My recently deceased Great Uncle was a Marine. His drill instructor was literally R. Lee Ermey. Glad to say my Great Uncle Jim was an extremely sweet, good natured man.
R.I.P. sorry for your loss 😢❤️🙏. I Thank him for his service
Even R. Lee wasn't as bad as he portrayed himself in this movie. He was an actual Drill Instructor that they brought in to be a consultant and eventually they decided he was a better fit for the role than the guy they had gotten to do the character originally. I think even back then if a Drill Instructor got signs that someone was going to become a Section 8 they would have booted them once they broke down enough.
"...literally R. Lee Ermey"? Like LITERALLY literally?
@@jscan4442 It's possible, Ermey was an actual drill instructor once.
Oh yes, Gunny was a D.I. for a time.
A few Marines who went thru Parris Island while he was there were asked if R. Lee Ermey was actually like that in real life.
To a man, they said: "Nope.... he was WORSE."
Your reaction is exactly what Kubrick was going for. He wanted to make a movie that demonstrated the dehumanization of war, and show all of the contradictions encountered by those who fight in it.
You couldn't explain the Vietnam War if your life depended on it.
@@davisworth5114 are you volunteering to explain the Vietnam war? If you can, the floor is yours
Well said. The fact that Cassie felt uncomfortable with most of this movie is exactly why it's so good. There is nothing good about war. It's a dirty, terrifying business.
For me the first part is what works best, in the part, after the chilling bathroom scene, I already lose interest in the movie a bit, this is ok it is the second part in the war, but there are much better second movies to show The war part is better.
@@davisworth5114 Go on then. Back up your unnecessary negative comment and blow our minds with education and humility....I'll wait.
1st 50 min of that movie is just epic and the best part most of this was not scripted, R Lee did an amazing job with this one . R.I.P R Lee
Ermey was originally hired as a consultant, but they loved him so much they gave him the part.
Yes, the Drill Instructors HAVE to be like that. A civil Drill Instructor is doing the recruits a disservice.
When they disobey to go and save each other at the end - I made the connection that this was derived from the guilt/loyalty that is instilled in training for your fellow solider.
@GreenRiver72 Guilt?
You are so full of it's coming out of your ears.
The smile when Cassie realized that Animal Mother was Jayne was great.
"I was gonna get me an ear, too."
Every guy I know loved the first half of this movie. It was interesting to see how much different your experience was watching it.
Yes. Everything in the boot camp segment is very necessary. DIs are training young men not just to kill but to survive.
The guy playing the drill sergeant is R Lee Ermey, he was an actual Marine drill sergeant during the Vietnam War. He was just supposed to be a military advisor on set but he was so good they decided to cast him in the role of drill sergeant. I think he made up a lot of his lines on the spot.
was not playing a drill sergeant. nor was he a real drill sergeant...what an insult!! he was a Drill Instructor! Get it right maggot!
Easily the most visceral reaction to this movie I've seen, this why I love this channel so much.
Just as a tangent to your quote. Popcorn girl. You're not meant to like this. That's whole point.
I watched it recently & forgot that the 1st hour is basically just Hartman screaming at them & Pyle & I winced the whole time lol
Absolutely love your videos. Like LOVE them. I don’t watch many reaction videos of any kind but your reactions are so good and I love how you edit your video. I’ve legit used your videos to watch movies I wouldn’t watch on my own or to rewatch movies I love. 😂
My dad was Navy, on a Destroyer in Nam, he said for people that could not cut it, they got the bar... The instructors were tough on these guys, because the environment they were going into was worse. I will forever love all those folks, all Branches of the US Military for doing what a lot of people don't have the brass to do... 🇺🇸
(1:29) Yes, this is required. It’s called the Induction Cut, or Induction Haircut. Originally one of the reasons for this haircut was to reduce the chances of diseases like head lice spreading among recruits in close quarters. The induction cut also serves a psychological purpose as it strips away the individuality of the recruits, promoting the mentality that they are all part of the same team. This haircut is usually performed within minutes or hours after arriving at boot camp, so it’s widely seen as a rite of passage for male recruits during basic military training.
(9:41) Do you remember Hacksaw Ridge? The Captain of that unit mentioned Section 8, “psychiatric discharge.” This was a practice of discharging personnel from the US Armed Forces who were deemed mentally unfit for service.
(11:00) Fire Watch simply put is Guard Duty. You work in shifts making sure that everything is secure, everyone is accounted for, and you often conduct chores and administrative tasks for the unit.
(13:24-13:51) You remember back at book camp, Joker was assigned to be a military journalist as his occupational speciality. Now he’s in Vietnam working as combat correspondent with the Marine Corps. They are just like regular journalists, except they are members of the US Armed Forces. The job of a correspondent is to provide a fresh, up-close, and personal account to what’s happening in the field. So here they are discussing their news coverage of the war in Vietnam. When the Lieutenant talks about a “Search & Destroy” Mission, those were common operations carried out by US and Allied troops to seek out and destroy communist forces in South Vietnam. The idea was to use overwhelming firepower to kill as many enemy as possible to the point where the Vietcong and NVA would be unable to continue fighting the war. Basically what the Lieutenant is talking about here, is the public relations effort to help win the war.
(15:06) It’s a slang term. The Americans called the Vietcong “Charlie.” The Vietcong or VC were a communist guerrilla movement in South Vietnam that was being supported by North Vietnam with the ultimate goal of uniting the entire country under communist rule. Fighting alongside the Vietcong in this war were the North Vietnamese Army or NVA (16:52). These were professional soldiers from the standing army of North Vietnam sent down to help the Vietcong drive out the Americans and overthrow the government of South Vietnam.
1968 represented the peak of the American war effort in Vietnam. For both sides the war had become a bloody stalemate, leading to the signing of the Paris Peace Accord on January 27, 1973. While this brought an end to American military involvement in Vietnam, it didn’t stop the fighting. In the spring of 1975, the NVA and VC launched a full scale offensive which conquered all of South Vietnam.
@Daniel Ramos You forgot another aspect of the cut. It saves the government money, since they literally charge recruits for the cut and deduct it from their pay. At least they did in the Army.
@@jippy8976 Yep When I went into the army in the 00s it was $7 for that haircut
Small correction: the VietCong never actually existed except in propaganda. It was completely integrated into the North Vietnamese military and controlled from Hanoi.
Simply put, the United States of America absolutely lost the Vietnam war.
I was an Infantry Drill Sergeant for 3 years in the Army. There are instructional and psychological reasons for the cruelty. Helps to quickly break down who they were and try to replace it with a different value system where they might have to follow an order that could lead to their death without hesitation.
And he says it like it's a good thing...
@@Warentester it is. Hesitation in combat leads to not only you being possibly killed or injured but those around you as well. The difference between now and then is the draft. Our Army, including combat arms, is entirely volunteer, so no one has been forced into a combat heavy field in over four decades. If you feel the training is cruel or unnecessary simply don't walk into your local recruiting station, problem solved.
@@Warentester Thats what soldiers are made to unfortunately, they go to kill and die, world saw what happened in WWI and they realized that you need senseless killing machines to fight a proper war, most people would never go to war if they weren't brainwasher by some shit power hungry government
@@Warentester, good, bad, or indifferent, it had to be done in order to get people in a state of mind that would raise their chances of survival in high pressure situations.
@ Jeremy Bland What do you think of the quality of your recruits?
3:48 In the old days, it was mandatory for boys over the age of 18 to participate in the war, also because some companies asked them for a paper proving that they at least did military service to be hired; clearly most didn't want to be there.
Charlie is Viet Cong (Victor Charlie in the military alphabet)
Fire Watch - guard duty(once upon a time, someone had to keep a fire + control it to keep tents from burning.. now it's night duty)
My dad is a Marine Vietnam vet. We've watched this movie together. He told me that this was exact experience. This is a rough movie to watch but also an important movie to watch. Thanks for this.
My buddy was a sniper in Iraq, then assigned to
Guantanamo Bay and said the same thing.
@JoKeS Why are you saying that? You know that isn't what he meant.
Because the guy was lying or exaggerating
The first time my father and I discussed this movie he pulled out his photo album. The city in this movie (destroyed) was a near match for the photos in his album. Great movie, but the sets are what makes it for me.
@@docsavage8640 What was your experience in the USMC?
Welcome to the next edition of "Let's traumatise Cassie!"
But seriously, I really appreciate your willingness to open yourself up to movies that can be difficult to watch.
She still havn't seen Se7en... ^^
@@zephyr30 🤣
As long as they are movies that should be watched, I think it's OK to slowly build her up.
@@zephyr30 And anyone that votes to make her watch it is sadistic. And probably a truly terrible person at heart.
@@LaserWombat i don't vote for anything.
It's one of the best movies ever, from one if not the best director of his generation.
R. Lee Ermey was actually a Gunnery Sgt. In the USMC. He was only meant to be the technical advisor for this movie but they liked him so much. And the reasoning behind all of the yelling and screaming during training is to mentally break the recruit, this way they can mold them into the Marine they want to be.
I'm a Marine from 1984-1988, close enough to the war that most of my Staff NCO's and Field Grade Officers had one or more tours in Vietnam. Most of them were still sore about how it all went down. I can tell you that the boot camp footage was almost 100% accurate. Very, very accurate indeed. I believe the combat and in-country footage was made to be as "real" as possible so that people could appreciate the price that our veterans pay for all of our freedom. I believe you are a good hearted, intelligent young woman and I could see how confusing and hurtful all of this was for you to watch. It is important and meaningful that you made that effort to see, feel, and understand this. The simple truth for everyone who has served, in any branch at any time in war or in peace is that none of us are unscathed by our service. All have given some...and some have given all.
I think everyone should watch this movie even though it's hard to watch. As someone that served 20 years in the military, I believe the media, politicians, hollywood, etc tend to romanticize war. Hope this makes people understand how horrific war is before deciding to send young men and women off to war. I also served as a drill sergeant for 3 years and can explain to you the "why" behind some of the things the DI was doing if you'd like.
Probably the most surreal movie watching experience of my life was in 2006 when I was sent to Iraq as a civilian contractor. There I was, embedded with the Marines at Al Asad Airbase in western Iraq, and they pull out this movie. They could recite every word from the film.
Hollywood has to cater to the D.O.D.'s requests before they get cooperation and equipment. So I think a lot of the "romance" is at the D.O.D.'s insistence to prevent people from *not* enlisting. I knew before SAVING PRIVATE RYAN from reading veteran memoirs that my clumsy ass had no place in the armed services and war should be avoided at most costs.
I highly recommend to watch 1985 'Come and see'. One of the scariest war movies ever.
I've never served, but I 100% agree with your sentiment.
Appreciate your service. I did twenty-eight years myself (plus time downrange as a contractor), and I appreciate that the film gives a glimpse at how basic training had been once upon a time.
When I returned from the First Gulf War in '91, I visited my high school history teacher, with whom I'd maintained a friendship since I graduated ten years prior. He invited me to speak to a couple of his classes about the war, which I did.
I'd gone into Kuwait during the ground war. I described in graphic detail what it was like walking through a field littered with destroyed Iraqi bodies - a torso here, a leg and head over there - as well as the smell of rotting corpses.
With the country having been shown CNN footage of the precision munitions hitting radar sites, bridges, and buildings, I wanted the high school kids to understand that for all the hi-tech marvels of stand off weapons, there is a gritty and horrific side to war that many people don't see/hear about.
Cassie seems like such a gentle soul. I'm uneasy thinking of how this reaction will go.
A scarred mind?
maybe it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.
@brucefale6132 it will go is just takes time not an easy one to watch
Cassie, my heart broke for you as you watched this one. this is a tough movie. your sensitive heart wasn't prepared for this one. you are amazing.
As a Marine Veteran with service in Iraq, I usually tear up along with you and some of these movies you react to like The Patriot and LOTR. This was one of the few times I was laughing uncontrollably at your reactions (bootcamp, not Vietnam).
It did give me a different perspective and set me back a little though. Like maybe I shouldn't be laughing at these bootcamp scenes. I also got the chance to meet and talk with R. Lee Ermey in Okinawa. He's a good actor, not a real jerk.
"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it" ~General Robert E. Lee
"Give him a second."
You don't get a second on the battlefield.
My dad was a dust off medic in Vietnam and he wouldnt watch this movie past the boot camp portion. He said that portion was hard enough for him to remember and that the second half of the movie brought back too many bad memories and he would prefer not to remember. He said this movie was too accurate
My brother was a USMC station at Paris Island he told me about a blanket party they used pad locks instead of bars of soap.
Young lady you have a lot to learn.
Two points about the training sequence. The Drill Instructors had an incredible responsibility preparing young men for combat. Anyone not properly trained would not only run a higher risk of getting themselves killed, but their mistakes would get other killed around them. This was made abundantly clear during the Vietnam War when Defense Secretary Robert McNamara lowered military recruiting standards as part of a program called Project 100,000. Its goal was to recruit 100,000 men each year who were otherwise mentally, physically or psychologically under-qualified for service. From the Project’s launch in 1966, through its termination in 1971, it allowed 354,000 previously ineligible men into the military. These young men who should have never been pressed into service suffered disproportionately heavy combat losses combat In Vietnam.
Well, we know McNamara was a war criminal and he as much admits it in his book. Some one tried to throw him off the Marthas. Vineyard ferry in the early 70s but he fought the guy off, I met McNamara on his book tour in '95, he gave off a palpable strong but evil vibe, I was shocked. His kids really suffered because they were in college at the time.
I read about McNamara seeing things about the after effects. The 'morons' as they were called said the training helped but the statistics say otherwise when compared to likewise low IQ civilians. Then the questions becomes how do normal IQ civilians compare to war vets who end up dead, make it home with PTSD and drug use and homelessness? Would those civilians likewise be better off it not more so than an average war vet from Nam, especially with those ratios of McNamara types in comparison? Because the way the statistics are always twisted when asking a base question you have to be sure what is compared and who asked it. Compare ratio to ratio to see what the outcome really is.
Still 'wrong' since nobody had a choice in the matter, to be pressed into service. Draft is still there for emergency use but we see how 'emergency' always gets abused. But science is science and has nothing to do with morality.
"McNamara's Morons", they were called. Forrest and Bubba in Forrest Gump are implied to be examples.
faaaccckkkk... just running the number.
I served in the Marines early 2000s. Boot camp was no joke. Even today, Marine boot camp has kept its standard as being the toughest basic training in our military. The actor who played the drill instructor. R. Lee Ermy, was a real Drill Instructor, hence the amazing performance he died in 2018. Most respected Marine of our time
is that true though, the hardest
I think Chesty Puller's fame exceeds "gunny". Then again - Puller was the kind of man, that when shown a flamethrower for the first time, he asked "where do you mount the bayonet".
I dunno--I think that whole "it's the hardest" is mostly hype nowadays. Sure you guys do water training, but other than that, your boot really isn't that much different from ours (Army).
@@energeez It was once, but now it's just hype.
@@coqueslammwell6198 I'd say it's moderately harder...you guys don't get slayed or hazed quite like we did. But bootcamp is easy anyways. Recon school was several times harder (more comparable to RASP)
My father was a drill sergeant in the Marine Corp during the Korean War and this is the most accurate depiction.My father was not a very loving man but what little he told me about him being a drill sergeant is that you had to completely break his will and his pride,because if you did not they would not come home from war.You built them back as killers
Basic training is designed to break you down so you just reflexively respond. You reflexively do what you are trained to do. Once you start conforming to that mindset, training you to do other more advanced skills becomes easy.
As a former active duty Marine myself, I can tell you the first half of the film centered around Basic Training was likely a tame version of what happened in the 1960's at Parris Island. One thing all new recruits go through is shaving the head. It serves several purposes, from being easier to clean for hygiene purposes, to uniformity. There is a saying in the Corps that there are no individuals, everyone is "green", just varying shades of it. Having gone through boot camp in the 1980's for 12 weeks, it was a non-stop mind game of yelling in your face, physical punishment in the form of PIT time (Platoon/Personal Incentive Training), and given impossible tasks that could not be completed resulting in more verbal abuse and punishment. But there is a reason for this: battlefields or chaotic by nature, and if you can't take someone screaming at you, you're going to panic under fire which is bad, and is going to get others killed. The 2nd half of the film centered on the Battle for Hue City. Kubrick took a lot of creative liberty and tossed in lots of stereotypes of Marines. But Hue was unique for the Marines because they hadn't been trained in urban city fighting, so casualties were high. It's a misconception that the US did poorly, or "lost" in Vietnam. They won every battle they fought against the NVA or the VC. But politicians controlled every aspect of the war, limiting which targets could be hit, tying units down into static positions only to win the objective and leave for it to be re-occupied by the NVA/VC, so it had to be re-taken again. When the US casualty count began to rise, politicians feared for losing support from their constituents, and the decision was made to pull the US out of Vietnam leaving the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) to stand against the North. They were overrun and surrendered. Oh, and in to clear up some confusion about who or what "Charlie" is, its a military adaptation of the phonetic alphabet. Viet Cong forces were called VC, or Victor Charles, shortened to just "Charlie".
I believe you are right about USMC basic at Paris. My dad went there for basic in ‘67, boy did we hear hard stories from him about that and more....
I just woke up and learned something new. Didn't know why the US army called the Viet Cong Charlie
Semper Fi I was at San Diego 1991 1st RTB Plt.1110 Bravo Co.
And as the Charlie thing my dad did 2 tours in Vietnam with the 1st inf division and the 9th inf. And he didn't call them Charlie he called them gooks.
Kubrick was one of the few film makers to have the guts to make a film like this. Marines are wired very differently from from normal people. That rewiring is not an easy process, and it’s more difficult to rework.
Btw, the boot camp scenes are very close to the real thing. Today, DIs can’t legally strike a recruit. But accidents happen.
I couldn’t agree more with you. My dad (USMC ‘67-‘71) was wired very differently from anyone else I’ve ever really known.
I think its necessary to change normal boys to this kind of Men for to survive in a War. In that way the Gunnery saves the lifes of many young Soldiers.
@@drhkleinert8241 yeah but still, you turning men into mindless robots. At my time in the German army, we worked with stationed American soldiers, and they were behaving like little dogs. They did nothing without command. It was creepy to see
@@iamthewalrus4998 That may be. Your soldiers lost to our soldiers...TWICE...so there is that...
Rewiring, otherwise known as brainwashing. Yes, it is likely necessary but let’s call a thing what it is.
The most sheltered girl in existence.
Seen this movie when I was 12 years old. Was on the edge of my seat the whole time didn't say a word. Still iconic to me this day at age 34
I was a drill sergeant from 2013-2019 in the Army Reserves. I have 13 complete BCT cycles, including 2 complete years on the trail from 2016-2019. The majority of my time as a Drill Sergeant was spent at Fort Leonard Wood.
A lot has changed since the 1960’s, but this movie is not far off.
I could have a VERY long discussion about the why and how of Basic Combat Training. And you would be surprised at how effective our tactics are in training recruits.
Fun Fact, Lee was a family friend for years. My family worked on his show Mail Call through its entire run, and later on Gunny Approves.
I did BCT at Leonard Wood in 2010.
I was a Drill Sergeant at Fort Leonard Wood from 1989-1992 with B & C Companies 87th Engineer Battalion. I remember getting troops ready for Gulf War 1 in 1991. When a cycle graduated separated the Active Duty personnel and marched them to their waiting buses with them all knowing where they were heading to. Guard and Reserve separated into another section and getting on buses to go home and telling them that they will be in the Gulf soon enough. Repeat for next cycle.
I went through Basic in 1981 and Drills were doing their best to keep from smacking trainees up side the head but - yep - it DID happen. Fortunately I did not get smacked.
@@jamesbednar8625 no offense, but who cares if you get smacked
Booooooooot
Thank you for your service.
My uncle served in the army at Vietnam. He couldn’t watch this movie all the way through. One thing that is very true is that stare. I asked him once about the war when I was little. He talked for a little bit and then just started staring into space. Freaked me out. Can’t imagine what he really went through. I never asked him again. RIP uncle Joe
Fascinating story.
Maybe some things are better left unknown
The USMC are (generally) volunteers, since the Army gets the draftees. The Marines are used to dealing with difficult enlistees, but not a lot who never wanted to join. The North Vietnamese Army (NVA) were nicknamed " Mr. Charles", while the Viet Cong (VC) were just called "Charlie" (formal vs. informal)
R. Lee Ermey (the sergeant) was an actual Marine. He knew what it was like being in boot camp.
Regarding why the initial training scenes were so brutal, as you said: they’re being prepared to go into the worst situations they will hopefully ever experience. Subjecting them to stress of any kind will help to prepare them- if they can find ways to push past it in training they will be better prepared to push past it in combat. Ok the flip side, if they cannot push past it, it would be better if they break in training then if they break in combat. Well… most of the time, anyways.
The US Army recently banned "Shark Attacks" because Recruits couldn't handle people yelling at them.
Lol.
If you think this training is bad look into special forces Seals SAS in the UK and others its even more brutal
@@wolf99000 oh I’m aware. Just giving an explanation.
That’s right, and also, during this time period of the Vietnam war, the drill instructors were given a VERY shot window to train the men that were drafted..they had to squeeze 12 weeks of training into 8 weeks…(I’m just a civilian 🤷🏾♂️.. correct me if I’m wrong) 8 weeks isn’t enough time to get a soldier ready for war
That's totally what they thought. But it turns out that it's a shitty way to prepare people and you end up with worse soldiers than if you'd skipped all the sadism and screaming.
Movies by Kubrick are always profound. They leave you asking questions. He was a master filmmaker.
Nothing profound about Eyes Wide Shut. The only question it left me with was "How could Kubrick make a film this awful?"
@@DavidBrown-ke8cb Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion man.
@@DavidBrown-ke8cb Lol true, Eyes Wide Shut is terrible. That name is reference to how the script was written
I mean,
2001 has never been finished by anyone who ever watched it.
Eyes Wide Shut was AWFUL.
And The Shining was NOTHING like the book.
Yeah only the millions of people who consider 2001 the greatest film ever made.
Wildest part of this movie: All of the Vietnam stuff was filmed in East London
The haircuts aren't necessarily aggressive, just indifferent. Thousands of recruits go through processing every day, and the barbers cut all of their hair so their job is to do it as quickly as possible. Your comfort is not their concern. And yes it is a little painful, and if you have a mole or something on your scalp, they will cut it right off. Happened to a couple guys when I went through lol
I went thru Parris Island in the 80's (Plt 3037 Lima Co 3rd BN) and this movie comes closer to showing what it was actually like than anything I've ever seen. Semper Fidelis on Memorial day to all my Marine Corps brothers!!!!!
1987 PI 1046 Semper Fi Brother.
1984 was my year & this movie nailed it.
Plt 2087 D Co 2nd Bn Parris Island 1986 Semper Fi!!!
Platoon 1058, Delta Company 1st Batallion 2000. Semper fi devil dog.
Always faithful brother.
Gotta say, I never expected this movie to show up here. Every reaction was pretty much what I thought it would be though, and they're genuine too. Never change hon, never change.
I think they're trying to break her. At least start out with some of the softer stuff before going FMJ.
@@Jsingle911 she's seen Schindler's list so where's the in-between she should start out with lol
Yeah the reaction felt pretty close to what I expected.This movie though is quite out of a lot of peoples comfort zone if they aren’t used to war movies. This shows the more honest cruel truth of what training used to be like in the US Army. At least that’s what I’ve learned as someone from the UK.
Nah, she does need to change. She's so soft a table corner could pop her.
@@kevinbaconwasntinfootloose1742 Well you've got me there lol
4:26 The “Rifleman’s Creed”; very real.
They shortened it there, or maybe that’s the way it was in the Vietnam years, but regardless it was a requirement that we memorize it. To this day, I can still recite it.
9:45 - you can see his magazine still had live rounds in it. That is how he was able to get the bullets back into the barracks
I knew this movie would be difficult for you to watch because you're a kind and sensitive soul, but I appreciate you going through it. Sometimes we need to go outside of our comfort zones. Your reactions are always genuine and I appreciate that.
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I agree. Also, I don't think Kubrick is an exploitative film-maker. But I like how delicate and decent Cassie is and I don't want her to ever lose that.
@@chubbrubb72 do you think kubrick or tarantino films are darker
@@harveybeck8452 I'd never considered that question. Now that I have I can't decide.
@@chubbrubb72 sorry I know is six months ago like a few days ago we think like kubrick just like dark sex and horror then tarantino
Originally, the actor who played the gunman in the helicopter was to play Hartman. R. Lee Ermey was a technical advisor. Kubrick was so impressed with how Ermey was with the other actors in rehearsal that he asked Ermey to play the part.
This actor apear in Apocalypse Now in one of the helicopters
Not surprising since R. Lee Ermey was actually a USMC drill instructor.
Ermey was in a bad car accident during filming and stayed at Kubrick's house while he was recuperating where Ermey worked on his Dialogue for the movie
They guy they originally cast as the gunnery sergeant got the consolation prize role as the helicopter gunman shooting the farmers in the field.
Actually Ermey was there on the set to help out with the army stuff to make sure the actors where on the right path, and suddenly he thought i want the drill instructor part and went to the producer and said to him that he wanted that part. i saw that in a intervieuw somewhere.
12:55
Vincent D'Onofrio (Private Pyle) was also in adventures in babysitting the same year as this, he was the thor mechanic
Matthew Modine (Joker) is also in a WWII movie, The Memphis Belle. I'm not on your Patreon, but I am confident you'll be glad you watched it. It is very inspirational, and it is a true story. My grandfather was a mechanic at the airfield where the story takes place and he remembered the plane.
Oh yeah thats a good movie!
Great film, one of my favourites, as it uses actual planes and practical effects instead of cgi, and it also includes a young Sean astin (Sam from LOTR) too alongside other great actors !
And ironically, the airfield the Memphis belle bomber flew out of in England was bassingbourn which turned into a British military camp after the war, and was also the camp they filmed the basic training at in full metal jacket.
It's been a while since I've watched Memphis Belle. Good movie! 👍
I love that movie!
As many Marines will tell you. It's pretty accurate, at least for its time. Nowadays the drill instructors can't really touch you, but there's just as much yelling, name calling, and of course being worked into the ground everyday for 3 months.
I did the 13 week "Summer of Love" in 1991. They were phasing out "hands-on correction" but there were a few Drill Instructors that hadn't read the R&I board for that just yet. Good times.
MCRD SD 1984 - DI's could not touch you then (at least not with malice) , but it certainly happened when no officers were looking. Every character in this movie had a counterpart in real life for me with Pyle being a composite of everyone's foul-ups in one character. One recruit messed up his request to use the head by saying "Sir, private requests head sir" rather than saying head call. The boot camp segment is very accurate and fact one could say partly toned down. I saw guys piss themselves in fear, on more than one occasion. The DI's were brutal, but they have to distress the recruits so they learn to function under duress. Push them past their own perception of physical limits but also to not exceed them and instill self confidence.
They weren't supposed to "touch you" then either, but they did it anyway.
@@michaelwoods9005 I never got head-butt, but I had the brim of the Smokey hit me on the bridge of my nose several times. Felt like it was reinforced with metal. Very effective "no touching" technique.
In 2001 I never got hit by my DIs. But I did "run into their fist" aggressively sometimes.
I went into the Marines in 1975. What you see in this movie in boot camp is real however they were not allowed to hit us or slap us around, but there was lots and lots of yelling, exercise and running. Also even though rifles were in the barracks, access to bullets was tightly controlled.
This is not an exaggeration, at least not from back in the 60's. My father served in the Marines and went through boot camp at Parris Island. When he saw this, he told me this was the most accurate depiction he has ever seen.
The training has to be brutal so that they can learn to function in extremely brutal and stressful situations. He is so mean to Pyle because he knows that in battle, he could be a liability to the rest of his platoon. Also, his treatment teaches the other privates to work together. If Pyle can't pull his own weight, people can die. If the team can't help him pull his own weight, people die. But if they can all learn to work together, they can learn to survive.
thats just terrorism my guy, its a anti war hero that shows how criminal the US is
Exactly! Look at what our military pumps out now. It's pretty embarrassing compared to just 10 years ago. I have respect for our soldiers. They go through hell to fight for our freedoms. But the soldiers these days aren't even familiarized with our constitution or rights! They're becoming as bad as... Well I won't go there. I respect our military err I mean our soldiers. Not all but most of our soldier of today... Lol nevermind.
@@L4ftyOne Lol what are you even talking about? What part of what I said is “terrorism”?
It has to be brutal because that's what's required for the brainwashing to set in. There's little difference between boot camp and a cult, except boot camp works faster.
@@Kaylakaze There's no comparison.
The actor playing the drill Instructor was actually a drill instructor during Vietnam all of his dialogue was add libbed every bit of it was stuff he said to recruits when he was a DI
The guy who was the gunner in the helicopter was originally cast to be the drill instructor with R. Lee Ermey only working as a technical advisor, but he couldn't pull off the speed of duologue, so Ermey took over the role and turned in a truly masterful performance.
R.I.P R. Lee Ermey
Kubrick had never heard the term 'reach around' which Ermey used in one of his many diatribes to the men. A crew member had to explain its meaning to the celebrated director.
And he's also briefly in Apocalypse Now as a pilot 😀
He also played the Sergeant in The Boys in Company C.
As a n RAF pilot [helios], I thank you for your respect and empathy for we who serve. Love your channel and will continue to watch as my situ allows xx
Had the privilege to serve, Parris Island 75, this is the most accurate depiction of boot camp..