So, THIS is where music is at in 2023... unfortunately!
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- Tonight we're taking a look at playing lots of songs with just 4 chords, in relation to a recent advert!
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0:00 Intro
1:08 Performance
1:33 Subject Matter
2:31 The Theory
7:30 The Controversy!
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At this stage I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that "real" music flaws & all is largely a thing of the past, with some notable standouts.
Hallelujah for my CD collection 😂
Some noteably genuine and honest musicians to see live…Joe Bonamassa, Marcus King, Eric Johnson.
Check out Eivor Palsdottir of the Faroe Islands: one huge talent.
Weren't your parents saying the same thing about the hideous racket you were listening to when you were you were young? Mine certainly did. All the best music has been outside the charts for a long time now, over 45 years that I know of (I'm 61). I just let the kids enjoy their thing while they're young enough to ( It won't be long before they're saying the same thing about what their kids are listening to), stick my headphones on and get jiggy with some Psychedelic Furs, Hanoi Rocks and Ramones.
Flaws are what makes music alive.
@@mitabpraga7487 what's being said here is that the human element was contained in previous music styles, whether you liked those styles or not. Now you're listening to a machine,and at the moment,one that doesn't apparently work very well.
When I was leading choir at church we had a pianist who could transpose songs to whatever the choir need the song in. That's a beautiful thing to have someone that can do that.
I was so privileged once. I returned to school to study music. I am a true low bass; the "low voice" repertoire (read: baritone) is high voice to me. I was losing my voice (partly because my technique was still imperfect). I asked the school accompanist if he could transpose my recital piece down a M3 or m3. He was a perfectionist and politely declined, since we would not be able to rehearse it before the performance the next morning. When I showed up the next day, he said he would do it. He transposed it in his head, flawlessly. He was a Ph.D. in piano who once represented the USA in competition, but he was a humble man, and never properly appreciated by the academic egomaniacs who populate taxpayer-funded schools.
The very commercial interrupted the video while I was watching it 🙃
I see it everywhere-guy must be making bank 🏦 to have non stop ads- when he slams the piano cover - hate it
That’s hilarious! 😂
SAME
That’t the ‘Algo-rythm’😂
Thank god I'm a nostalgic person who prefers looking back in time rather than at the current stuff. Give me old school musicians/singers any day over what we have today.
"One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it. Three chords and you're into jazz." Lou Reed
I have always loved going to small clubs to listen to bands. Even not-so-good ones are better than listening to pitch corrected music. Thanks, Fil. this was most interesting!
Analysis videos are SO much more enjoyable than "reaction" videos. I always feel that I learn something, here.
Amen to that!
Most reaction videos are nothing but a bit of a con to get clicks and likes. I've watched a few and some of them don't know what they're even talking about. One I watched, the so-called "voice teacher", did not know who Simon & Garfunkel were! 😱😤
@@bruceringrose7539 I've avoided reaction videos for quite some time. I did see one awhile back of a guy who claimed to be a jazz drum instructor who when queried (by me) said he had never actually Buddy Rich play...ever.
Reactions are for the LAZY with no talent!
@@bruceringrose7539 DOH!
I can barely believe that somebody had the gall, in 2023, to base a monetized course around the famous “Axis of Awesome” comedy bit (so famous that the I/V/vi/IV chord sequence is colloquially called “the Axis of Awesome chord sequence” after the comedy group), and act as if HE thought of it.
"Everything you see, you have to question...". Indeed so. And that 'filosophy' can be applied broadly to almost everything. We are in a really weird place these days.
Amen to "Fil-osophy!"
Wow! If you’re *just* finding that out, you are WAY behind the curve. It’s *been* this way for a while. It just keeps getting deeper and deeper into *Everything* in the culture.
The first time I heard about the "4 cords" thing in popular songs was from a comedy act over a decade ago. The joke has now become music fact.
Axis Of Awesome they'd called themselves, I think 😊
@@mightyV444yep and theyrr from melbourne ausyralia...
And... it was also a joke in a Cheech and Chong song back in the 70s, only then it was 3 chords! I think it was from "Earache my Eye "
That piano guy uses even the same examples as AoA.
It was music fact years ago. The joke came afterwards.
I have a very eclectic taste in music. As a child of the 70s/80s and then teen/early 20’s by the 90’s, my musical taste actually ranges from the 1940’s through today. Though there are very few musicians or sounds that impress me today. I can’t imagine hearing Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole, the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Smoky Robinson, Carole King, Freddy Mercury, Bono, Sting, Stevie Nicks, Whitney Houston, George Michael, Steve Perry and so many more from other decades and genres using pitch correction or auto tune. These were just people whom has God given talent and worked hard at perfecting their skill. They paid their dues to make a career for themselves. There are so few artists of today that impress me. Even someone like Taylor Swift, who at my age, I actually like, when you hear her sing live, her voice is not perfect, and it’s refreshing. No lip syncing when live. But anything recorded, by nearly anyone, to me is false talent….and I use the word talent lightly these days. Long gone are true musicians and singers.
Fil, you're killing my dream! I had an hour blocked out this weekend to learn those 100 songs. What will I do now?
Lol 🙂
In the 50s, C, Am, F and G7 were used in many of the popular songs of the decade. Using those 4 chords helped define the music of the decade, but all of the songs tried to be unique and there was no autotune/pitch correction.
This advert is the most annoying advert on youtube. I found the singing a bit odd at points and too 'in your face'. Now I know why, it is pitch corrected and he does not take a breath between talking and singing. I am glad you have dissected it. Great short video.😀
It's an example of an old show business trope: "If you can't be good be loud".
And I only recognize 1 song, lol.
Oh, bliss Fil...absolute bliss ! This advert has been getting on my t**s for months. So glad that you spent a little time here explaining things. Also, you did it in as polite a manner as possible, implying no disrepect to the 'artiste'. I have many friends who are professional pianists and vocalists in the jazz and classical fields, who spent decades learning their craft and will be gently smiling at this analysis. Many thanks indeed.
I thought it was just me who was getting turned off by this advert. I've taken piano lessons and college music courses. I agree that Fil presented this in a polite manner without disrespecting the artiste. Arguably there are songs that utilize 4 chords and even 3 chords but not the same exact chords advertised nor in the same manner. Fil's analyzing this kind of led me to wonder if the presenter could be putting his reputation on the line.
@@glamgal7106 Yes, I'd agree with that glamgal - especially the last sentence. What amuses me is how he describes himself as a concert pianist of 9 years standing. Really ? Like Vladamir Horowitz or Oscar Peterson ? I don't think so...
Hearing pefect vocals these days saddens me. What often made Robert Plant stand out was his non-perfect vocals which, strangely enough, worked for him. The imperfections of Michael McDonald, David Ruffin, Joni Mitchell, Aretha Franklin...it's what made them sound human. And when they nailed it, it was pure perfection! To this day I still get goosebumps when I listen to Ruffin hit "SOOOO" in My Girl. If everything is perfect, then nothing is outstanding.
Listening to imperfect humans reach for the stars and occasionally grabbing a handful of stardust is glorious!
I agree, but I consider there to be one exception to that general rule: Karen Carpenter of Carpenters. Her perfection, in pitch, in phrasing, singing (and playing drums) for her brother's nuanced arrangements was entirely authentic and human, and their music was therefore engaging and enduring.
Another comment.
Pitch correction is to music what photoshop is to photography. But it is much deeper than that. And continues to get deeper. And, oddly enough, it is all based on mathematics. Computer computation to be exact. I’m an old guy born in 1950. I grew up listening to 45rpm records of good old rock and roll. I went to school and learned drafting as a trade and spent many years honing that craft. I also took some photography courses in college and spent a lot of time taking pictures and processing them in the darkroom. At the end of my career, all the drafting was done by computer. Drawing are all extracted from a 3D model. There are no more “draftsmen”. Pictures are digital and can be manipulated. You don’t need to actually be a good photographer. Music is digitally created or manipulated. You don’t need to be a good musician or vocalist. AI is to a point where a complete person can be generated to appear real in a movie. In the work of music and entertainment and visual art, is anything real anymore?
Everyone seems to want the quick way to success. Life is a process that is a fantastic journey. Thanks for not selling out Fil.
Hi Fil: Speaking as someone who never caught on to musical chords, notes, reading sheet music, and all that, I find your analyses enormously enjoyable. I find ALL your content just wonderful. Wanted to let you know that. Looking forward to tomorrow's LS already! Take care; stay safe and sane, etc. 🙂 Rosemarie ❤
As an old (and lousy) piano player, these snake oil salesmen have been around for ever in one form or another with their "how to play the piano without having to learn to play or do any work" courses . For people who are suckered into buying these courses there are two results: first, they'll try it once or twice and then quit because they find they're really not learning anything, or they'll try the lessons and they'll be so quickly unsatisfied with the results because they want to learn to really play and they know they're not learning, and they'll go on to something where they really learn--which means they'll have to do the work.
There's no easy way to learn, especially an instrument like the piano. You either want to learn to play or you don't and if you really want to learn you're going to eventually have to do all the hard & rote stuff, like learning theory and scales and keys and all the rest. You're eventually going to want to learn to play songs that don't repeat the same 4 cords, and then you're going to have to start all over again because what you learn in a course like this is useless.
Amen to what you said about there's no easy way to learn. Having taken piano lessons and various music courses in college, I was really turned off by the advert. The fact that a "concert pianist" is trying to sell that somebody can learn how to play only four chords in the same manner and play many songs reminds me of the old phrase about someone having a bridge to sell you.
Assumptions make an ass out of yourself. I’m taking this coarse. I’ve been a musician for 53 years. And have had a hard time getting thru all the intros as it’s all just refresher for me. But once the actual lesson started , I found it’s a very comprehensive coarse. You still have to learn theory , scales, notes,and key signature. And how to read music in both clefs . Also still requires just as much practice. He does have a different approach that makes the learning much easier to understand . He teaches all the traditional terminology ,and then breaks it down into layman terms. That’s the biggest difference. He makes it understandable. Although that damn accent can get annoying. 😂
We shouldn’t be so quick to judge until we’ve done some research . Not just watched an annoying commercial.
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@@theofficialdiamondlou2418 What might work for some people may not work for others. I’ve been a musician for over 40 years. We have our rights to our opinions as well.
@@glamgal7106 yes but your basing your opinion on a commercial . As a 40 year musician you should be the last one to trash another musician without really researching the subject. My point ..
It’s NOT A scam … and it’s 1,000 times better than Yousicion ,or some old lady berating you once a week.
I don’t know maybe you like that sort of thing.
@@theofficialdiamondlou2418 I’m not trashing anyone. I’m simply stating my opinion. Let’s put a complete end to this discussion now because I’m not into arguing.
Ha ha Fil, I was waiting for someone to rip into that nonsense. Well done for keeping a "straight face' for some of it 😉
Fil is the man! So grateful for this channel and the message that you don’t need to be old to appreciate old school. Yet I have hope real musicianship will survive
I suppose if you play a line or two, you can play several songs with 4 cords or so. I don't care for auto tune or pitch correction as it just makes the voice sound unnatural, they just take away the beauty of the singers voice. Thank you Fil, for explaining this so we can understand things better, if it wasn't for you, a lot of us would be lost. You are amazing! 🙂
Hi tammy, wasn't there a way that "P"erformers could "P"revent the "P"o"PP"ing pee? Meaning, a long time ago B/54 those shields?
@@R.Akerman-oz1tfI don't know, lol. That was a good demonstration Fil did on those popping P's though. 🙂
Having actually experimented with autotune and pitch correction software, I found that it sounds progressively unnatural the more aggressively it's applied. With manual pitch correction software such as Melodyne, I suspect many flatten out the natural modulation. When I tried that on my own vocals, it sounded dull and nasal. They also tend to remove the natural slide between one note and another, and after doing all of that, it sounded just like the vocals on many a modern commercial recording, ie. awful.
Ridley is correct in principle. There ARE a lot of famous and popular songs you could play with just these four chords (for that matter, there are a lot of songs you could play with just three of them). The problem is he overstates the case by including songs that develop beyond this simple chord loop in later parts of the song.
@@CrankCase08 Precisely! With the key part of your comment being "the more aggressively it's applied". Fil has mentioned that, sometimes, an artist will use pitch correction creatively, in a very limited fashion in order to create an artistic illusion within a part of a song. Sorry, I can't remember the video or song Fil used to illustrate this limited and artistic use of pitch correction.
That guy must've been inspired by videos of the Australian trio called _Axis Of Awesome_ , who'd done the exact same thing of playing oodles of songs' verses or choruses over these same four chords - just _without_ this ghastly-sounding pitch correction and in a humorous way 😊
AoA ftw! Their medley was top notch.
My reaction as soon as I saw the video title
Absolutely he hijacked this from Axis of Awesome. He does the songs in the exact same order! If you're doing it for comedy that's fine, but using it to sell something makes him a charlatan. Ugh.
@@bwelaj Are you sure he's serious? Or is his version also a joke?
@@Baribrotzer I haven't done any research, I'm just trusting Fil and it seems like the guy was trying to sell piano or music lessons? If it's just a joke then why? He's literally copying Axis of Awesome which is not cool.
So his target customer base is people who want to learn to play piano without all that annoying hard work? 🙄 I hate to think of a world where no ones cares enough to try and play as well as Roy Bittan or Amanda Kramer. The only way I, or anyone else, ever became a competent electrician was to learn electrical theory, common point troubleshooting, motor controls, conduit bending, test procedures, lockout tagout and a shitload of other things, detecting and correcting errors as we went along and taking note of what didn't work. There is no one week or 30 day spin cycle method to learn any but the simplest disciplines. Thanks for another interesting video Fil.
So happy you're taking this one on 😂 the audio composition of that commercial feels like someone's yelling at me
I never really noticed it before, but your videos have made me able to actually hear pitch correction now lol. It's everywhere!
Fil has me doing the same: I'm hearing pitch correction too.
So true 👍
Yes... and now that I can more easily recognize auto tune, it seems to bother me more.
Yeah, I guess it's the same 4 chords if you only play one or two lines of the song...🙄 Thanks as always for your explanations!
I'm so glad you've made a video about this. This sorry excuse for an ad has been irritating the crap out of me for months, and you're pointing out with great eloquence all the annoying things that are wrong with it. Thank you.
You see ads? LOL! Noob.
Hi Fil,
I think these kind of things fall into the Get Rich Quick schemes and I want it now, I don’t want to work for my money. And the thing is you can’t play the whole song, it won’t sound right! That would just drive me crazy…!!! Lol… but it also takes away from the little nuances and embellishments you could add in a song to give it some interest and texture and make it your own. Again as you always say practice and more practice is key to build muscle memory and skill. Great analysis with many different musical aspects to consider. You Are The Best! Debbie☮️
I was surprised to hear he is a classical musician because the way the video is set up with the lighting, his jacket, and the false sounding snippets of songs, he has a "lounge lizard" kind of vibe. I hate to see young people drawn into this when it is not the best way to learn music.
Sort of a Noel Coward groove sans the talent.
I don't believe that guy is a classical pianist for a second. :)
Well said - I had exactly the same reaction when I saw that ad. It encapsulates everything that's wrong with 'modern music'. Not that there's anything wrong with that particular chord sequence - it's been used for a very long time. But the idea that it's something to aspire to, to be able to only have to learn four chords and you 'got' music under your belt? It says a lot, and not much of it good.
This is the musical version of having those "perfect body" models on mag covers all those years ago. DI the photos to the max. Even tiny skin blemishes are airbrushed. They look so uncanny valley. This is the same thing, only for audio
_Axis Of Awesome_ did great medley of these 4-chord songs.
One of my favourite songs is "Pictures of Matchtick Men" by Status Quo, id love you to analyse that as a rebuttal of the "3 chord Quo" reputation they got.
I didn't know what I was missing by having YT Premium. When he yelled out "same chords" and "exact same chords", then continued singing, I was done...🤣🤣 Maybe his course should be called "How to Play the Verse and Chorus of 100 songs Using the Same Four Chords...And, Oh, By the Way, Every Song is Going to End Up Sounding Exactly the Same". There we go...I fixed it for him.👍
Yeah, this was bad. What I don't understand is that he's a concert pianist, so I'm assuming that he loves playing the piano...the whole piano, using, you know, all the keys...and doesn't spend 2 hours entertaining an audience with this crap. So why teach a course like this, that dumbs down what he does? Why not teach a course that really teaches people to play the piano? It will certainly take longer than it would to learn 4 chords, but isn't it worth the time? As you said, you spent every day for 2 years training your voice...if a thing is worth doing/learning, then it's worth doing right, and it''s worth it to put in the time and the effort needed.
Enough of this. I'm off now to teach myself how to play 100 songs on the piano, and I've only got a week!!🤣🤣
You can learn the four chords in 15 minutes. Then it's "Now what?" You're going to get pretty bored of those 4 chords and 100 songs that sound all the same and you're either going to quit or you're going to have to go to a different course. And by the way, you don't have to pay to learn the four chords. Just type "4 chords hundreds of songs" into UA-cam and a hundred videos will come up and show you the same thing for free.
Yeah. I don't have UA-cam Premium, and it's been a thorn in my ear for months now. My wife has probably been wondering why I keep shouting, "IT'S NOT THE BLOODY SAME CHORDS!". If he's a concert pianist, I'm Kily Minogue ..... and I assure you, I'm not. LOL
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10:10 to 10:22 ... tooooooo funny 😂! Thank you for making my day, Fil!!
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I appreciate this video. There's no such thing as quick mastery of a musical instrument, as you well know. It's a discipline that takes commitment and lots of practice. Fast food, fast fashion, fast music???
Phil good evening, being of certain age I'm pretty much an analog man in digital world. I enjoy good organic music of different genres of music, but I don't like electronically corrected voices. Thank you for your insights on this new techniques on learning how to learn to "play" different songs with some basic cords.
The best thing about today’s music is that it’s pretty easy to avoid the dross if you want to, and my god there’s a lot of it to avoid… 🤦♀️😊
Go back to the 1950s and early 1960s followed C Am F and G7 - (1, 6, 4 and 5/dom7) - or their derivatives and nothing's new. That's why the Beatles learned or knew all their augmented and diminished chords, major 7ths, min 7ths and relative 6ths etc.
A lot of songs today are built around 1, 6, 4 and 5/dom7 or 1, 3, 4 and 5/dom7....etc
funny enough the "under the bridge" part actually starts on the e maj for guitar and the chords hes playing fit over "i could die for you" where frusciante actually goes from a to e in the chord progression
4 chords, one more chord than Johnny Cash needed for about 100 songs including some huge hits. 4 chords and a capo covers a lot also.
Ah yes, the ol three chord progression trick. Absolutely true for most country .. and .. western music. Urban country not so much.
Status Quo,
This is one of you best analysis with an excellent explanation on why only 4 cords can fit a medley of songs without playing each song in it entirely. excellent job Fil. 👍
My Mom used to sell pianos and organs back in the 60s and 70s. The organs were the hot sellers, with the cheesy rhythm accompaniment buttons on the left panel being the main selling point. Most non-musicians are intimidated by what they consider the "magic" that is music. The idea that they can press one key with their left hand, and then one key with their right hand, and have it come out like a semblance of a song is unimaginably attractive for people. It's the sonic equivalent of "Paint by numbers". This guy in the ad seems to be mining that same shaft, as he makes music seem inclusive and simple for the non-musician.
On the flip side, I have had the experience of showing non-musicians that their "Genius" artist is actually doing very simple things. This never goes over well, as they prefer to think of their favorite artists as untouchable Gods. Personally - and being self-taught - I find that discovery is one of the biggest joys about any subject. Every time I learn something new on the piano or guitar I feel like I'm 5 years old on Christmas morning again. I've been opening presents every day for 50 years!
You are a Breath of Fresh Air! Unassuming, Honest and Talented with the Ability to Connect with Your Audience! A Rare Bird, Indeed!!
Very insightfuly done.
A clear example of how, devoid of ANY real musical talent, anyone can now lay claim to artistry.
But it's the resultant 'crowding out' of real talent that irks me the most.
Thanks Phil.
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Give Pokey la Farge a listen . A true musician . Will knock your socks off !
I have just been listening to the Moody Blues, saw them around 1972 in concert, haven’t listened to for a while, fantastic.
The joy for me is that, as a professional musician, in 50 years I have yet to sing the perfect phrasing or play the perfect melody...which keeps me honing my craft, and brings me great joy ❤
This transition with pitch correction and AI...where will it all lead?
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I feel like pitch correcting and A.I. sucks the life, joy, and character out of the music. That's just my opinion though. Keep honing your craft, my friend! 🙏
Hi Fil: I've seen this advert before. Having taken formal piano lessons and many music courses in college such as ear training and improvisation, I found the "Learn the same 4 chords and play many songs" advert to be questionable and suspicious. Yes, there are 4 chord and even 3 chord songs that arguably aren't difficult to learn. As you mentioned, it's a matter of putting in the time to practice and learn. I hope you don't mind me mentioning this: A good example of a 4 chord pattern would be I VIm IV V which was popular in 1950s rock n' roll. I loved the excellent points that you brought up in how the advert was presented--kind of like a Swiss cheese with too many holes in it. I agree infinite percent that people get suspicious, especially as you pointed out in the "Under the Bridge" example where there's a chord change and 4 chords don't suffice. Personally, I wonder if Stephen Ridley isn't putting his reputation at risk by this "come on" of an advert. Thanks for bringing this to light, Fil!
Your thoughts on pitch correction remind me of a thought a friend of mine passed on to me about 35 yrs ago. He was a guitar player in a small band, and a fairly good one at that. But he could not sing. He knew it and literally kept his mouth shut. He also told me about recording studios, and how, at that time, the music was manipulated, he believed then, as I do now, that live is the only time one really gets to hear a person sing or play an instrument. I would rather listen to a medium talented performer or, for that matter any performer, any day over a electronically corrected version of their music.
I've had that ad come up so many times but never before listened long enough to hear him sing 😂
Thanks, Fil! This ad comes on constantly when I am watching stuff....so appreciate knowing this about it.
“I thought I was playing jazz,(writing?). Turns out it was the same 4 chords I always use.” John Prine
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Thank you Fil! You're a sweetheart! And, you've really got a lot of patience!🌷
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The easiest 4 chords in this pattern for me as a non-musician for both piano and guitar is: Gmaj, Dmaj, Emin, Cmaj.
Hi Fil, Great interesting video AGAIN! After watching your video I picked up one of my old easy play music books (very basic melody and chords ) I opened the book at random and counted the different chords in the song " Lollipops and Roses" there were 16 different chords and 33 chord changes ,remember this is a very basic music book even the melody notes are lettered. I think this proves your point made in your video. The chords change in the middle eight as you said . Keep them coming !
i got that advert 3 times in 10 minutes just after youtube pulled their "only 3 more videos then your banned" stunt. ad block working again now though🙂
Thank you Fil for your explanation and guitar demonstration. Great analysis as always! 😊🎸🎵
Lemmy was only joking when he said, "We only know four chords, but we arrange them pretty well." Blues musicians use nearly all the same chord sequences, and The Inkspots started EVERY song with the same guitar intro, but those people STILL managed to sound original and interesting song to song. The simple answer is, STOP LISTENING TO THE POP CHARTS. There's plenty of great music by less popular and independent artists, better than any "hits" of today.
"Hits", an anagram of what today's "pop music" is.
This guys is why the "Skip Ad" button is your friend. Edit: "Save Tonight" is about the only song that doesn't change the 4 chords.
Pete Townshend, for one, might have been pleased with the current technology, when he had to record Oliver Reed’s vocals for the movie version of Tommy’s Uncle Ernie: “I did two or three weeks in the studio with Ollie, who was great fun to work with, but couldn’t sing a note. We had to do it line by line and sometimes word by word, and I’m not exaggerating. The weird thing is that once he’d done it by bits, he could do it live.”
Thanks Fil. I thought it was too good to be true. But I do know lots of 12 bars can played in 3 chords too. Cheers 🎸🎸🎸
The day the music died...again.
All the truly great rock is coming out of Japan these days Band Maid in particular. Best live bands best song composers.
Great job of calling out yet another UA-cam shyster! Thanks for your analysis & opinions, Fil!
The most annoying part of the video is that it shows "day 1" and then "day 14" and then "day 30", etc. In all cases, Steven Ridley is the one playing. I kept thinking, that's not day 1, it's year 30.
There's a reason I enjoy pub sings, and other informal events where people sing together.
In addition to the social companionship, you get real, uncorrected voices - can't really get anything else!
Are the people who sing with friends as good as professional singers? No, but most people who attend are better than you might think. People who can't sing don't attend. [Except me ... I'm in my "learning to sing pitches accurately" phase. I can usually manage a harmony, so I don't lead. ]
I loved going to pubs for live music(though I don't drink) and open mic nights. Sometimes I participated in open mics. You're right, you'd get social companionship and real, uncorrected voices. Unfortunately, it seems like there's less of that nowadays--at least where I live--thanks to 2020.
@@glamgal7106 I was moderately active in the Boston scene, I know that's still going on. I moved away a few years ago, and haven't found if/where the locals gather to sing.
Interesting hearing topic in analysis switch from use of four chords to use of vocal pitch correction.
(No surprise!)
So I actually paid for this coarse .. and I’m taking it. It’s actually a VERY GOOD coarse. Although a bit expensive around $1,300 US. But they are real good about financing. My cost is $99 a month. Now all that said. It’s a bit slow starting ,as he really goes in depth on the basics. But once you get started it moves pretty fast. I highly recommend it if your interested in learning piano/keyboard.
As a guitarist for 53 years , there are many songs that use the same chords. Heck just look at the blues.
Glad you brought this up fil.
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PS:the coarse does include a vocal coarse and many other things. But I agree why the AT ??
Thank you, I never heard the pitch corrected singing, because I always close the ad before it, this is funny indeed.
Thanks Steven but no, I learn to play piano, I like a lot the major 7 chords, there is no way I would like to limit myself to 4 chords, singing over and over the first 4 measure of every possible song.
Oh, and as an amateur singer too, learning to sing since 1999, I don't see the point in using pitch correction just to go faster. The fun thing in music is not only the result, but also the process, and enjoying it. I'm happy to hear that my voice is still getting better after all these years and I enjoy the fact that there is no end to it. I expect the same with the piano. Where is the joy of learning, if you can have everything, right away, without any effort, but through the use of softwares? It won't be " your progress".
Same with languages. Yep, you can give the illusion of knowing almost perfectly a language, using a limited set of "most used" vocabulary and sentences, that you've learned to say with the most correct accent possible. But you won't be able to really understand people anymore, as soon as they will start to use the REAL daily language at normal speed.
Yep I confirm, this was RHCP "Under the Bridge", and the chords change a bit later is exactly what makes this song special.
I'm froom Memphis annd I write my own song, and they have more than 4 chords. And they have high notes to sing.
It's a sham let's face it. I'm so happy I grew up in the late 60's and 70's when music was music :)
Your understanding of music AND the music recording industry is just amazing. You have exposed me to an aspect of the audio world I did not know anything about. I have been recording music (onto my real-real tape deck from the early 70's. So, not only do I find your analysis of famous singers terrific and enlightening, you also show over and over again the underlying technology. Your videos are just amazing.
I was suckered by the "you only need four chords" claim. There's also 12 keys, so there's combinations of different hand positions (on piano). You'll also be modifying chords with sus, 7ths and 9ths etc. Then you have inversions and secondary dominants and other borrowed chords. Not to mention jumping across the keyboard in time with the music and playing different rhythms with each hand.
and so on and so on.
Not only do I enjoy your videos, but I learn things, too! Thank you, Fil! 🤟
In my mid-youth, though well after I began singing in earnest, there was a similarly themed song from “The Sound of Music”, “Do Re Mi”, which taught a generation solfège. To our knowledge, Julie Andrews never used pitch correction.
It would do my head in playing the same 4 chords for 100s of songs over and over.
loving this near-obsession with pitch correction. So interesting.
This is a really xommon thing that I have seen in recent years, and its funny how many people are "amazed" by this. One example that comes to mind it Ed Sheeran, he has done this during a few performances, and uses the exact same key to play parts of songs. There really isn't anything that incredible about it, as it's something that can be done pretty easily. And as for the pitch correcting, it has an attraction because it gives it a "pop" sound and makes it seem more commercialized. I prefer raw, authentic talent. Great videos and explanations though, man! I appreciate what you do. 🙏
He was funny & partally accurate. Many bands played simple chords/music for sure. Thanks Fil for another fun analysis 😊🌃🎸🎼🎵🌛⭐️
I’m a guitar and ukulele novice but to play most songs you need to know a lot of chords. An exception would be Knocking on Heaven’s Door G D Am7 C. Tom Dooley can be played with D and A7. These are good for beginners. I get my chords from a chord app Tabs. They have versions of the chords and you have to experiment with what sounds best. Most songs need a lot of chords. You have to find your own level. I find that the Ukulele chords are much easier to learn. You can play a lot of chords and many songs. The autoharp is also a good alternative. Mine has 19 chord buttons that are available. The challenge is to work on learning which finger should be used for a given button. Also you use picks on each finger to do the strumming. That take some practice. There’s lots of introductory books which helps you along. My autoharp has 36 strings that make for a rich sound.
Fil, John Sebastian of The Lovin Spoonful uses an autoharp to play Do You Believe in Magic. That would make for a good analysis. There’s a live version on UA-cam.
Thank you, Fil. Glad you are pointing this out. I just don't understand why they do all of this "correction". It takes all of the beauty out of the music.
I love the way you take apart the tune and give the listener insight. I would be very curious to hear your take on the looney operatic devil work of King Diamond and his band Merciful Fate. Lady in Black, Father Picard, Gypsy are definite mode jumpers to my ear. I'm hearing all kinds of strange mode changes but you be the expert.
Thanks Fil for all the work you put in explaining what is going on in these videos. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
The slippery slope kicked off in the classical sector 30 odd years ago when solid state recording enabled easy insert editing of single notes. One of the journals, it may have been the Gramophone, printed a picture of a page of score with the edits marked. It wasn't just one or two.
As a palate cleanser, please check out the wonderful Carson McKee!
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There was a comedy bit by Axis Of Awesome that did this EXACT same thing, the EXACT same songs in the EXACT same order.
We have become artificial and poseur - where is the authentic music, the heart & soul of music? This is what you are saying, and I ask the same questions Fil!
I always pass these ads by. I write my own songs. When I do covers, I use UA-cam if I don't know the music well. I also will use a couple of guitars, if I don't want to finger pick the song. It usually turns out much better, soundwise and it sounds original. People should experiment and make the song their own. I can see using this stuff if they want to play medley, but that is still limited.
We used to be able to buy books: 300 hits with simple chords etc. I had one of 'Heavy Metal Hits'...with open chords and no riffs ! Useless then and useless now...happy days.
If you want real music get down to the pub or local music club, or the opera house or concert hall.
Keep it live !!!
I really enjoy your channel. I’m not a professional musician or anything. Just a life long drummer and consummate intermediate acoustic guitar player. You present an interesting side to music that, most of the time, is not too far over my head technically. Thanks!
Yes! Their are a saying: find 5 right things that is right. And you picked out it every great in this video 13:58
Man I love this channel!
Hey Fil.
Check out Graham Bonnet with Blackthorne singing We Won’t Be Forgotten in an acoustic session in the early 90’s man.
One of me fave performances.
Cant send a link but the video duration is 5:28 if you wanna do a quick search for it
And also. You should show the channels’ viewers a 1999 song by Bonnet called “Killer”
INSANE vocals in that one man!!
Keep up the good work dude! 👍🏻
'Axis of awesome' did this 10 years ago
Randy Jackson to singer Haley Reinhart six years after she appeared on American Idol:
"You are one of the ones that I really thought would have a career because doing that stuff you do with the jazz stuff is not easy. It's hard to do, and you sing it with more melody than a lot of the songs on the radio today. Some of them I love, but they're like four chords. So with four chords your melody is always going to be limited. With the jazz stuff, it's about singing through multiple chord changes. It's a very different thing, so your ear has to be trained so accutely, and then you also love the rock side..."
Yes, that video advert is driving me mad ...four chords is one too many! I just don't dig jazz.
Perhaps he needed pitch correction because the transposition of the keys of the songs put the melody outside his vocal range. (Great work Fil, as ever).