@@carlwilson5339 the most ironic thing is, Johnny Depp is a good deal older(he was) than Dillinger (31),but doesn't look it, while Warren Oates looked older(he was) than Dillinger, who after all, had just done 10 hard years for a petty robbery.
and he nailed DILLINGER, though Oates was a good deal older, JD was aged because of doing 10 years starting at age 19, so that slipped by the audience. great gangster film. and partly because of his resemblance to the man. he said earlier in his career, that he would like to play him. the first scene, where the idol/folk hero worship starts, as he announces who he is, w/ a smile, is my favorite scene. Richard Dreyfuss does a great job as Lester 'baby face Nelson' Gillis.
I live near the Biograph. This is wrong. The alley is east of entrance. Dillinger would make a left turn not to his right. Weird how close the Biograph is to theSt. Valentine’s Day massacre are within walking distance to each other. Welcome to Chicago
Warren Oates wasn't like Dillinger, based on what I read. He was a more cool, laid back character and not a loud mouth who constantly shouted, "I'M IMMORTAL! I'M JOHN DILLINGER!". Depp portrayed him more accurately. Warren Oates looked like him but didn't act like him. Great performances by the two leads though (Oates and Johnson).
Warren oates looked a lot more like dillinger than Depp but Depp most definitely did a better job in public enemy but I still enjoy this film but I love Ben Johnson and Warren oates when they're together
yeah, that's Milius getting a little carried away. Gene Teirney (tho it isn't his fault),portrayed him in the '40's, as a sadistic bastard. which he was NOT.
@@tonym994Yup. John Dillinger was an every day guy who refused to rob from the poor and smiled at everyone he met. But on the other side of the coin, when cornered he would put a bullet in you to get away. Lotta reading. Lol.
yeah, and I can't see him working w/ Nelson, if he (Nelson) was as bad as it is said. Willie Sutton really was the best, because , aside from stealing a silo full of cash & jewelry, he saw to it that nobody was hurt (even a baby crying would cause him to abort a job), and in one such instance, he simultaneously noticed a huge sky lite in the ceiling, which he returned to, and burglarized the Bank, for one of his biggest profits (he was originally trained by 'Doc' Tate as a burglar, strictly breaking and entering). he had more brains than brawn, for sure. he even claimed that his Thompsons and .38's were never loaded, and nobody would challenge him on that, as Tommies were just too intimidating. he was quoted as saying "you can't rob banks on personality and charm alone." despite his non-violent inclinations, he was heavily armed, but was so non-violent that when he broke maximum security for the 3rd time, on the run for 5 years, cops would rule him out of being a suspect for robberies where violence was used ,even idle threats. he was after money, and nothing else. no bio-pics have been made on him 'cause of his aversion to violence, having never fired a round in a Bank. he and JD would've made the best Bank robbing team ever, 'cause they were thieves, not psychopaths. and they both loved baseball.
really fouled up the ending .it was in the middle of a Chicago heat wave, in July .these guys are walking around in overcoats. the FBI story(1959)ironically, got it accurate. this was otherwise a hell of a movie.
@@elaineewalt8137 that's because great minds think alike. John Milius made a good film, but went out of his way to screw up the ending. I'll never get it.
Over 60 cops were needed in the ending. Tells a lot about Dillinger. And them, too... At least that`s how it really "ended". Not for Dillinger. the 60 + cops are forgotten by us. Dillinger will stay in public memory ...
@@wolfganghasenmaier8350 in the book ,John Toland's 'the DILLINGER Days' the Indiana State Police make the newspapers believe he was the leader of the gang, but he was still learning the trade. they did it to create jealousy inside the gang. it didn't really help matters any. and because Banks were not popular, to say the least, he was seen as a man of the people. tho this was before FDIC, so (correct me if I'm wrong) the working man and the farmer lost any money they had in there. but folks would rather see it in JD's hands than the bank's.
@@tonym994 Wow!!!! Very enlightening... Thed "look at me" jealousy/contest does not work ooutside the Italo mob... Did he give some of his stolen money to the poor?
@@wolfganghasenmaier8350 no, but the scene in 'BONNIE & CLYDE', where Clyde lets a bank customer keep his own money (nice of him )is based on a real story, from a DILLINGER job. but the bank's money wouldn't be lying around, would it? but the best of all time was Willie 'the actor' Sutton.
Read a little more about Dillinger, I thought Warren Oates was good in the movie but John Dillinger was not at all like Oates' portrayal. Dillinger also done a bad job at depicting Purvis. Dillinger was more like he was portrayed in Public Enemies.
Only thing that was credible and true in that ending, was the women that realised that it was dillinger would grab their handkerchiefs, dip it in the pool of his blood and take it home as a souvenir. The rest, was inaccurate. As if he screamed out 'Johnny!' lol.
Though inaccurate as hell still one of my favorite films.But who were the bad guys?Lol but my main beef with this underrated film was the ending. No cold or wet but hot steamy in July.Oh well can't have everything I guess.
@TheKenny1209 This is the definitive version of Dillinger. Johnny Depp was a poor choice to cast as him. This was done by AI at a fraction of the cost, but is superior in many ways. It is by now means a factual account, but there many parts that ring true. This movie shows how a good script and casting can make a movie.
I have to disagree with you The actor who play Dillinger in this film did a terrible portrayal of John. it wasn’t accurate at all. It’s been told that John Dillinger was laidback and wasn’t loud mouth and didn’t shout like he’s some god “im immortal im John Dillinger. In Chicago in July there was a heat wave and it was 110 degrees that night. Dillinger wasn’t wearing a suit, it was way too hot for that. He look ridiculous. Melvin wasn’t the one who killed John, and Melvin was young not old. He did light up the cigar, he also never shouted John’s name. That’s also not how he was shot. Public enemies was very accurate and they also used the exact movie theater biograph. John Dillinger turned left when he exited the theater not right.
@@NC1195_ This movie is entertaining. It was made about six years after "Bonnie and Clyde", to entertain audiences at drive-in movie theaters. It is not a factual account. Also, it does not ever get to 110°F at night in Chicago. The actor, Warren Oates, bears a strong resemblance to Dillinger, and delivers a great performance. Other notable actors include Ben Johnson, Michelle Phillips, and Harry Dean Stanton. The movie was distributed by American International Pictures, a low budget (e.g. Corman) outlet.
Not very accurate. They are all all decked out in suits and overcoats but at the time it was hot and steamy in Chicago the main reason Dillinger was at the theater. It's known Dillinger was wearing a straw skimmer at the time and casual clothes plus he was shot and killed from behind.
Totally Agree Dillinger was cool, smooth and extremely gutsy and daring but not a loudmouth braggart, It was his daring that got him killed perhaps .....Pub enemy #1 go's to a public theatre ?
Well, the optimist in me says that the person the gmen killed that night outside the theater was a decoy cleverly set up by JD and the real Dillinger got away. The people who knew the real JD & the cops knew he had "steel gray/blue" eyes & the man they gunned down that day had dark/brown eyes. (Can't change your eye color.) :P Unable to catch the real Dillinger, the gmen staged a cover-up. Anna Sage being deported anyway, after that night supports that theory in my eyes.
Lol...... JOHNNY!!! But it would've been even more inaccurate if melvin screamed johnny then john dillinger replied "Yeah?!" and turned around and was only shot by melvin instead of winstead.
NOT how it happened. Johnny turned LEFT coming out of the theater, walked half a block, saw the cops, started to duck down the alley, cops had that covered from the back, turned around, got shoved down on the ground AND THEN WAS MURDERED BY THE PIGS.
He wasnt MURDERED BY THE PIGS !!! I HOPE THAT YOU NEVER HAVE ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW GET SHOT BY A MURDERING CRIMINAL LIKE DILLINGER !!! JOHN DILLINGER...LIKE ALL THE REST OF TBE GANGSTERS FROM THAT ERA. HATED ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT...& OFTEN HAD NO REMORSE IN KILLING ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE THAT THEY CAME ACROSS !!! THAT GOES FOR MR DIILINGER,BONNIE & CLYDE,HOMER VAN METER,HARRY PIERPONT,PRETTY BOY FLOYD,BABY FACE NELSON,ETC....THEY ALL KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM EVENTUALLY !!! THEY ALL EXPECTED TO DIE AT THE HANDS OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY !! THEY CERTAINLY HAD NO INTENTION OF SPENDING THE REST OF THEIR LIVES IN PRISON !!!
@@michaelwernimont4410 Oh i see! They all EXPECTED to die at the hands of the pigs so it's PERFECTLY OK to MURDER them! I bet you're OK with ABORTION too! My what a simple-minded world you live in.
@@theartfuldodger935 NOT QUITE !!! I am very much opposed to abortion.!!!! I have been opposed to abortion all of my life !!! John Dillinger & the other gangsters from that era did not want to spend their lives . Or any portion of their lives in prison .. So they knew that they would likely be killed by law enforcement or a posse at some point. They are just some of the people who were part of the old saying You live by violence,you die by violence.. That is the life or matter of death that they chose. They made that decision.. No one made it for them. Same thing goes for terrorists,members of drug cartels,Mafia members,etc.
Michael Mann's version is better,Depp an Bale's performance was alot more realistic plus this movie got the ending wrong,he got shot in the back of the neck through his face....
The movie wasn’t accurate at all. Terrible portrayal. It’s not how John Dillinger acted. Also not how he died, and it wasn’t Melvin who killed him. Melvin was young not old. Dillinger turned left when he walked out the theater not right.
That was an execution.
That's my Dad who's the cop pushing the crowd away at the very end.
At least Oates look like Dillinger. He looked more like him that anybody else whose played him did,so at least they did that right.
Johnny Depp,. No pirate,, no native, no Dillinger
I've often wondered what Dillinger the movie fan, would think of this. I think the opening scene would win him over.
@@carlwilson5339 the most ironic thing is, Johnny Depp is a good deal older(he was) than Dillinger (31),but doesn't look it, while Warren Oates looked older(he was) than Dillinger, who after all, had just done 10 hard years for a petty robbery.
and he nailed DILLINGER, though Oates was a good deal older, JD was aged because of doing 10 years starting at age 19, so that slipped by the audience. great gangster film. and partly because of his resemblance to the man. he said earlier in his career, that he would like to play him. the first scene, where the idol/folk hero worship starts, as he announces who he is, w/ a smile, is my favorite scene. Richard Dreyfuss does a great job as Lester 'baby face Nelson' Gillis.
Some of you were in law school when I started chasing this one? lol, Dillinger was only on the loose for 13 months.
2:01 although he played this role well Purvis was actually young in real life.
And much shorter...
I live near the Biograph. This is wrong. The alley is east of entrance. Dillinger would make a left turn not to his right. Weird how close the Biograph is to theSt. Valentine’s Day massacre are within walking distance to each other. Welcome to Chicago
North Clark Street, right?
All hats and gloves and coates. It was 110 degrees the night he got killed. Oates made Dillinger look ridiculous
They purposely left it kind of unclear if that really was Dillinger that was killed. Kept his face obscured.
Well it was in the 90°s and humid on the actual night.....these guys are dressed for November
Warren Oates wasn't like Dillinger, based on what I read. He was a more cool, laid back character and not a loud mouth who constantly shouted, "I'M IMMORTAL! I'M JOHN DILLINGER!". Depp portrayed him more accurately. Warren Oates looked like him but didn't act like him. Great performances by the two leads though (Oates and Johnson).
This version made Dillinger look ridiculous.
Warren oates looked a lot more like dillinger than Depp but Depp most definitely did a better job in public enemy but I still enjoy this film but I love Ben Johnson and Warren oates when they're together
yeah, that's Milius getting a little carried away. Gene Teirney (tho it isn't his fault),portrayed him in the '40's, as a sadistic bastard. which he was NOT.
@@tonym994Yup. John Dillinger was an every day guy who refused to rob from the poor and smiled at everyone he met. But on the other side of the coin, when cornered he would put a bullet in you to get away. Lotta reading. Lol.
yeah, and I can't see him working w/ Nelson, if he (Nelson) was as bad as it is said. Willie Sutton really was the best, because , aside from stealing a silo full of cash & jewelry, he saw to it that nobody was hurt (even a baby crying would cause him to abort a job), and in one such instance, he simultaneously noticed a huge sky lite in the ceiling, which he returned to, and burglarized the Bank, for one of his biggest profits (he was originally trained by 'Doc' Tate as a burglar, strictly breaking and entering). he had more brains than brawn, for sure. he even claimed that his Thompsons and .38's were never loaded, and nobody would challenge him on that, as Tommies were just too intimidating. he was quoted as saying "you can't rob banks on personality and charm alone." despite his non-violent inclinations, he was heavily armed, but was so non-violent that when he broke maximum security for the 3rd time, on the run for 5 years, cops would rule him out of being a suspect for robberies where violence was used ,even idle threats. he was after money, and nothing else. no bio-pics have been made on him 'cause of his aversion to violence, having never fired a round in a Bank. he and JD would've made the best Bank robbing team ever, 'cause they were thieves, not psychopaths. and they both loved baseball.
really fouled up the ending .it was in the middle of a Chicago heat wave, in July .these guys are walking around in overcoats. the FBI story(1959)ironically, got it accurate. this was otherwise a hell of a movie.
I thought the same dang thing! Lol! 😂😆
@@elaineewalt8137 that's because great minds think alike. John Milius made a good film, but went out of his way to screw up the ending. I'll never get it.
Filmed in cold ass November in Oklahoma City! Ridiculous. Alley he shot still exists folks
@mexicotri You are absolutely right, The were called G-men.
5:10 My uncle's one line "Break it up! Brea- Break it up!" :)
"Get the police, get the police!", that woman was at the bank robbery too, HaHa
Over 60 cops were needed in the ending. Tells a lot about Dillinger. And them, too... At least that`s how it really "ended". Not for Dillinger. the 60 + cops are forgotten by us. Dillinger will stay in public memory ...
Why was Dillinger regarded a hero by many Americans in that era? Curious for your take.
@@wolfganghasenmaier8350 in the book ,John Toland's 'the DILLINGER Days' the Indiana State Police make the newspapers believe he was the leader of the gang, but he was still learning the trade. they did it to create jealousy inside the gang. it didn't really help matters any. and because Banks were not popular, to say the least, he was seen as a man of the people. tho this was before FDIC, so (correct me if I'm wrong) the working man and the farmer lost any money they had in there. but folks would rather see it in JD's hands than the bank's.
@@tonym994 Wow!!!! Very enlightening... Thed "look at me" jealousy/contest does not work ooutside the Italo mob... Did he give some of his stolen money to the poor?
@@wolfganghasenmaier8350 no, but the scene in 'BONNIE & CLYDE', where Clyde lets a bank customer keep his own money (nice of him )is based on a real story, from a DILLINGER job. but the bank's money wouldn't be lying around, would it? but the best of all time was Willie 'the actor' Sutton.
@@tonym994 Wheew, I will google that guy. :) Thank you so much.
Read a little more about Dillinger, I thought Warren Oates was good in the movie but John Dillinger was not at all like Oates' portrayal. Dillinger also done a bad job at depicting Purvis. Dillinger was more like he was portrayed in Public Enemies.
At the end of the movie during the credits there is a song playing called Honey how can I get that song?
m.ua-cam.com/video/FpbbP0_fleM/v-deo.html
Only world classic 🌍❤
Only thing that was credible and true in that ending, was the women that realised that it was dillinger would grab their handkerchiefs, dip it in the pool of his blood and take it home as a souvenir. The rest, was inaccurate. As if he screamed out 'Johnny!' lol.
Did he even light his cigar?
public enemies has a better ending
I get the feeling Purvis wanted to make sure Dillinger was dead - looked like he shot him lying on the pavement.
Yes but keep in mind that Dillinger was shot in the face, that can darken your eye color I think.
Johnny depp not johnny deep
4:10 im waiting for you dillinger
i thought the FBI werent called that yet during the 1930s
Cool but purvis didn’t kill Dillinger
its funny cause in real life when dillinger walked out of
the theater he turned right not left
Though inaccurate as hell still one of my favorite films.But who were the bad guys?Lol but my main beef with this underrated film was the ending. No cold or wet but hot steamy in July.Oh well can't have everything I guess.
You'v never been in Chicago in July?
@TheKenny1209 This is the definitive version of Dillinger. Johnny Depp was a poor choice to cast as him. This was done by AI at a fraction of the cost, but is superior in many ways. It is by now means a factual account, but there many parts that ring true. This movie shows how a good script and casting can make a movie.
It’s completely inaccurate
I have to disagree with you
The actor who play Dillinger in this film did a terrible portrayal of John. it wasn’t accurate at all. It’s been told that John Dillinger was laidback and wasn’t loud mouth and didn’t shout like he’s some god “im immortal im John Dillinger. In Chicago in July there was a heat wave and it was 110 degrees that night. Dillinger wasn’t wearing a suit, it was way too hot for that. He look ridiculous. Melvin wasn’t the one who killed John, and Melvin was young not old. He did light up the cigar, he also never shouted John’s name. That’s also not how he was shot. Public enemies was very accurate and they also used the exact movie theater biograph. John Dillinger turned left when he exited the theater not right.
@@NC1195_ This movie is entertaining. It was made about six years after "Bonnie and Clyde", to entertain audiences at drive-in movie theaters. It is not a factual account. Also, it does not ever get to 110°F at night in Chicago.
The actor, Warren Oates, bears a strong resemblance to Dillinger, and delivers a great performance. Other notable actors include Ben Johnson, Michelle Phillips, and Harry Dean Stanton. The movie was distributed by American International Pictures, a low budget (e.g. Corman) outlet.
@@johnnystaccata did John Dillinger actual wear a full suit that night?
Bonnie Parker, Clyde Barrow & Dillinger, tous trois tués grâce à une traîtrise policière...
Quem escolhe a vida no crime, ou uma hora vai ser preso ou morto.
Love this movie, but years later, after seeing photos, that the real Dillinger look like a fatter faced version of John Travolta…..🇬🇧
John Dillinger was shot in the back of his head. Not as depicted here.
that true they had it all wrong the first shot was behind the neck and exited throught the cheek
Not at all how it happened
he did
Not very accurate. They are all all decked out in suits and overcoats but at the time it was hot and steamy in Chicago the main reason Dillinger was at the theater. It's known Dillinger was wearing a straw skimmer at the time and casual clothes plus he was shot and killed from behind.
Not how it happened
Johnny Depp is still a better Dillinger
I like this one better💯
Totally Agree Dillinger was cool, smooth and extremely gutsy and daring but not a loudmouth braggart, It was his daring that got him killed perhaps .....Pub enemy #1 go's to a public theatre ?
Well, the optimist in me says that the person the gmen killed that night outside the theater was a decoy cleverly set up by JD and the real Dillinger got away. The people who knew the real JD & the cops knew he had "steel gray/blue" eyes & the man they gunned down that day had dark/brown eyes. (Can't change your eye color.) :P Unable to catch the real Dillinger, the gmen staged a cover-up. Anna Sage being deported anyway, after that night supports that theory in my eyes.
Well you could tattoo them.
His his Audrey identified the body. We have photos of John Dillingers dead body, same exact face in his picture from wanted photos.
Lol......
JOHNNY!!!
But it would've been even more inaccurate if melvin
screamed johnny then john dillinger replied "Yeah?!" and turned around
and was only shot by melvin instead of winstead.
@TheKenny1209
I agree. I didn't like this one at all.
The allies on the wrong side of the 'biograph'. Thios aint chicago.
NOT how it happened. Johnny turned LEFT coming out of the theater, walked half a block, saw the cops, started to duck down the alley, cops had that covered from the back, turned around, got shoved down on the ground AND THEN WAS MURDERED BY THE PIGS.
He wasnt MURDERED BY THE PIGS !!! I HOPE THAT YOU NEVER HAVE ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW GET SHOT BY A MURDERING CRIMINAL LIKE DILLINGER !!! JOHN DILLINGER...LIKE ALL THE REST OF TBE GANGSTERS FROM THAT ERA. HATED ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT...& OFTEN HAD NO REMORSE IN KILLING ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE THAT THEY CAME ACROSS !!! THAT GOES FOR MR DIILINGER,BONNIE & CLYDE,HOMER VAN METER,HARRY PIERPONT,PRETTY BOY FLOYD,BABY FACE NELSON,ETC....THEY ALL KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM EVENTUALLY !!! THEY ALL EXPECTED TO DIE AT THE HANDS OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY !! THEY CERTAINLY HAD NO INTENTION OF SPENDING THE REST OF THEIR LIVES IN PRISON !!!
@@michaelwernimont4410 Oh i see! They all EXPECTED to die at the hands of the pigs so it's PERFECTLY OK to MURDER them! I bet you're OK with ABORTION too! My what a simple-minded world you live in.
@@theartfuldodger935 NOT QUITE !!! I am very much opposed to abortion.!!!! I have been opposed to abortion all of my life !!! John Dillinger & the other gangsters from that era did not want to spend their lives . Or any portion of their lives in prison .. So they knew that they would likely be killed by law enforcement or a posse at some point. They are just some of the people who were part of the old saying You live by violence,you die by violence.. That is the life or matter of death that they chose. They made that decision.. No one made it for them. Same thing goes for terrorists,members of drug cartels,Mafia members,etc.
Michael Mann's version is better,Depp an Bale's performance was alot more realistic plus this movie got the ending wrong,he got shot in the back of the neck through his face....
From my knowledge, this scene is completely inaccurate
One of the worst executions of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!
The movie with Johnny Depp was too Boring. This was a much better movie.
The movie wasn’t accurate at all. Terrible portrayal. It’s not how John Dillinger acted. Also not how he died, and it wasn’t Melvin who killed him. Melvin was young not old. Dillinger turned left when he walked out the theater not right.