Why INDIAN TRAINS are NOT AERODYNAMIC ?
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2023
- why Indian trains don't seem to have a sleek and aerodynamic design like some modern vehicles
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Pointy is scary... square is not scary 😂😂😂
Where is nuclear nadal
@@ajatashatru4198 you already executed him
Scary for the passengers because more illiterates feel like throwing stones
@@accesskarthik1 you didn get the joke lol
@@subhrasankha6468no he is alive and ran away to USA, don't you remember that you executed you executioner before 😂😂😂
Make it pointy, Point is scary
-General Aladeen
Was looking for this one Keyboard effort.
i guess the train speeds were not that high so flat surfaces didnt make much of a difference.
also flat surfaces are easier to clean and they also provide a more clearer view to the loco pilots.
now with increasing speeds, the aerodynamic structure will be required to reach and maintain higher speeds.
LoL that Thumbnail Tejas 😂😂 Glad we have Vande Bharat now.
Thumbnail not matter info matter 😁
Agar congress hote tho Tejas ko he vande Bharat ka nam deke bhagate😂😂😂😂😂
@@nature.951 har jagha politics acchi nahi lagti
@@IRRFAYUB77Are bhai yeh sacchai hai🤣
@@IRRFAYUB77 politics or sacchai me farak hai abdul.
Some steps I believe are required to be taken in order to improve the railways :-
1. Track Upgradation
2. Efficient and Timely departure and arrival of trains
3. DFC’s
4. Track Doubling
5. Improved Railway Stations
6. Improving Ticketing System Overall
7. Separate lines for Cargo Trains and Passenger Trains
8. Better looking and aerodynamically shaped coaches!
9. 100% Electrification
10. Logistics cost should be reduced to a significant amount to improve earnings
11. Proper fencing around all railway tracks to avoid cattle
12. Skilled staff and skilled workers to be hired
These are some steps which can highly improve the efficiency of Indian Railways! And according to me these should be implemented by the 2035 in order to become highly self reliant and to have a improved system of Railways in India!
Besides all these older coaches and engines should be retired finally these are some of the powerful coaches but it’s time to increase the frequency of the trains rather than carrying 1000’s of passengers at a single time! Quality over Quantity is required now!
I don't think we will give any importance to quality.
And maintenance of tracks and platforms by keeping it clean.
Charge hefty fines for spitting and littering.
How about adding double decker coaches to our inventory list a lot of european trains have these kind of coaches and it is very much practical for our situation , as there are some instances when the trains are cancelled and the ticket checkers take in bribes to add extra people into the normal sleeper coaches.... if it was double decker it would be better not only for this situation but also for general compartment , who have to travel in horrible conditions .......
@@krug3588that happens only in big stations. In many stations, people spit and litter on the tracks.
Agree to all but Diesel engines should not be discarded with 100% electrification. In times of war it could be a bad idea.
@@aakudev 100 % percent electrification is a bad idea anyway
vande bharat has the scope of covering the undercarriage. if done there would be some reduction in drag and help in increasing speed and efficiency
Maybe we need a dictator from Wadiya to make it pointy🤣🤣
dildo😂
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RRTS also luks aerodynamic like Bullet train.
A legend has once said *"Round is not scary.pointy, is scary.!!"*
I still remember when we used to cross railway lines ..and when we saw the trains coming ..it felt scary ...it dosent matter whether it is square OT pointy
@@GalaxyImpact200it's a reference from a movie called the dictator
@@GalaxyImpact200whoosh
I always had this question in my mind. Thank you for uploading this video.
Another reason is Open Door and Windows which can create vortex during high speed if engine are made Streamline
#AskPT isn't most of locomotive around the world are like that with little to less incline, the locos of america and Europe are same as the Indian locos but more sleek because of the better build quality.
Most of the aerodynamic trains are mostly high-speed trains like shinkansen and vande bharat, which are completely coupled to each other for better aerodynamics. There are train set with power cars at the end (TGV and Acela, they are not emus) but they are also completely coupled to the trains, so i think instead of wasting resources on aerodynamic locomotive we should have more EMUs like vande bharat.
video on Shinkasen train technology,please
The Chad WCAM3 at the start 00:01 made my day. The Toyotas of Mumbai Division of Central Railway. Robust, reliable, low maintenance, and go anywhere as long as the tracks are electrified, be it DC or AC. They'll always remain one of the favourite locomotives of Bombay Railfans.
Bro plzz make one video on green hydrogen
best topic discussed by this channel ❤
Also to add, extended nose would also work as a safety feature with crumple zones, and keeps the driver much away from the front, as compared to flat front.
Open windows, Open doors, gap between coaches cause much more drag than locomotive front. Just fixing these issue might result significant improvements in fuel efficiency.
Surface finish also needs to reduce the viscous drag.
@PowerTrain bhi agar hum locomotive ke sath kuch naya try karte ha Jaise WDG-5 (Bheem) ya WAGC3 to hum unka mass production ku nahi karte (Locomotive ki problem solve karne ke baad)
Brother would you say the which background music u use in ur vdo
Nice video sir ❤❤❤❤
Its not only about aerodynamics on the Loco, the Airflow along the entire consist must be fixed i.e. there are be wind vortex between the bogies which needs to be fixed.
Dont forget aero wash from the wheels, panto's and underbody drag
Modern high speed trains look sleek, but our Indians locomotives look badass and powerful...🔥
Cope, they look trashAF
Not really, they look dirty and old
True bro
They look clowm
@@Cage66666just like you ?
#AskPT I have heard many times that we don't have the tracks to run high speed trains, we need advancement in tracks. I want to know what type of upgradation we actually need. Since every other country has the same type of iron made tracks, concrete made sleepers than what we need actually???
The difference isn't that big actually. Most of India's railways have broad gauge tracks, to support more space and weight. Meanwhile in Europe, they use standard gauge tracks, which allow trains to travel at higher speeds. Along with that is the maintenance of the tracks. Since India has the 3rd largest railway network, it would take decades to upgrade the tracks, whereas European countries have small landmasses, so maintenance isn't as expensive or expansive. I can say this as I currently live in Germany, and have travelled in bullet trains of Germany, Spain and Italy.
Welded tracks with no gaps in between to reduce wear & tear of wheels. To prevent buckling due to thermal expansion in summer the tracks should be per-stressed. Moreover angular joints to be provided at places.
Also, high speed rail network is made without any curves, so a straight line. Also they are made in a separate rail track in Japan which also had a different rail track before bullet train ( narrow gauge). We need to build a completely separate track for high speed that is why it is always expensive and takes time. Europe and Japan built theirs decades ago and hence we can now see their extensive network.
@@adityachauhan5781 Track gauge doesn't have much to do with speed, other countries use standard gauge for compatibility.
Jai Hind Vande Mataram⚔️🙂🙏🚩
Kind request to add Subtitles , your information are so great, please add Subtitles
Why Tejas locomotive does not use in Tejas express ?
Thumbnail op 🔥🔥🔥🔥
1:53 what is this contraption 🤮🤮🤮
Very good videa
I was going to ask this question
Mumbai it city me kis rank pe ati hai
Bro we have many vandebharats and rrts is ready
actual body/part of the video starts from 3:30.
This guy is the type who writes long introductions but mid sized body in his school essays
As long as Indians appreciates the flat square face.... Indias train development will never change.
bro its happening with vande sadharan
For Indian railways hamari trains eak barme 1 to 2K passanger leke ja shakti he because of 20 24 coaches at max speed of 110 to 130 kmph bas existing max speed ko kisi tarah se 160 180 kar diya jaye to bohot bade level pe faida hoga speed badhega transportation badhega flexibility badhegi bas sabse phle double line sections banao or jaha phle se double he waha or double banao esh se traffic bohot reduce hoga trains ki avg speed 50 se sidha 80 90 pouch jayegi or shari trains consistent 160 180 kmph chl payege or baki existing tracks he unko upgrade karna jaruri he aerodynamic is good but our Indian Locomotives are flat & baddas powerful they are still enough to run at 160 kmph easily they need this basic improvement infrastructure which i said okay they need to work one single to double double to quad line sections low traffic double speed than current everything is going to fine
If Indian Railways improve their signaling system in a way so that the trains don't have to slow down/stop every 10-15 min, that itself would reduce travel time drastically. So rather than focusing on aerodynamic trains, IR should first make it possible for trains to run at 80-90 kmph (with required speed reduction at curves) for at least 40-45 minutes.
do you know why train delays happen?
Almost all our tracks if not all have gone above and beyond their train capacity.
Some lines have gone as much as 150% the amount of trains the tracks were built to handle.
Thats why govt is building seperate tracks just for goods train. Average speed of goods train in our country is 25kmph.
Usain bolt's top speed is 43.99 kilometers per hour. Almost 2x the speed of our average goods train. Its a joke currently.
Passenger trains are given priority whenever there is no place for goods train to run so sometimes goods trains stay on side tracks for 2 days.
I extremely suggest you to watch the video about "Why is Indian logistics failing against China" By Think School. Most of these things are from that video, I follow other railways content and i think this video is most relevant for this topic.
00:18 samstipur railway station???
While our locomotives look dirty, they give powerful looks, we need some changes in color otherwise they are sigma locomotives.
Powerful looks? 😂
strong, potent, mighty, formidable, commanding, influential, robust, authoritative, vigorous, overwhelming, dominating, puissant vibes i guess🥶@@dv9239
All Indian trains should be aerodynamic.
Whatever it is... Indian railway is an emotion... ❤
Pointy or not but these locos look powerful & intimidating 🔥🔥🔥
Your title is wrong! This should be "why indian train WAS not aerodynamic in the past" as now trains are becoming aerodynamic but still some partswere e left as it is.
His title is absolutely right. 18 vande Bharat didn't make all thousand of them aerodynamic
WAP7 HS Locomotive need to conversion Tejas type AERODYNAMIC 🚂🚋🚃🚋🚃🚋🚃
Vande Bharat 😊
There is a aerodynamic version of wap 5
At the present speed, I don't see a point taking a train over the plane. If the train price is 2/3rd a plane's price, why should I take the train ? The only way to beat it if you have high speed trains which is priced as 2/3rd a plane's price. There has to be a time : price balance. Currently the trains are all super slow , even the so called premium trains.
It's not 2/3rd of a Plane's price.
Someone who doesn't have the urgency can pay 1/3rd of a plane's price and can travel long distances
Train ka average speed ghatia hai. Maine SMVB express ka ticket kiya hai, 60km/h ka average speed dega wo hi time pe chala to joki kabhi bhi nahi chalta. Speed kab badhega 😭
Bro not any train in India is running on 140 maximum speed limited to 130 cause fencing is not done yet it will take almost 2 more years to reach the goal of 160 and square boundary locomotive are also capable of 160
Subscribe karne se motivation milta he ..😂😂 is baat ke pichde pese ka khel he bhai😅😅
Because of Typical Indian mentality of cost cutting and jugaad.
railway is already loss making fyi
I think our recent Wap 5 and Wap 7 locos look modern enough compared to other countries. We just perceive them that they don't look that good because we compare them with High speed trains and not semi high speed trains.
Pointy, is scary! Indian Trains are not scary! 👽
मैने भी हमेशा नोटिस किया जब भी रेल को देखा
They usually have very less avg speed around 50kmph so having good aerodynamic design is just a waste of money 😅
3:47 Yea bauhat hi galat vaktavya hai har ek cheej joh 100 above jaa sakti hai use Aerodynamic hona hi Chaiey tum apni car ko chalao 100 pe aur Windows Khol Do even aisa kahate hai k jaise hi gadi 50+ 60 + jati hai vaise Hi Saari Windows Close Krne ko kahate hai uska bhi yahi karan hai
Abhi Wap 7 me hai aur abhi Vande Bharat me hai Aerodynamic design
Brakes at every 15 minutes or 10 does aerodymic model matters ?
Thumbnail reminds me of "The Dictator" 😂
If it becomes points it will stick to something
ah a doubt is do u think in the the future vande bharat trains will replace all the current trains ?
Well, it will replace, that's the main reason for producing so many vande bharat trains at record speed.
thank you @@pokemoner_365
Bullet train ayega toh major cities hi connect honge baki ke liye toh vande Bharat hi kaam ayenge
They are all changing now by vande bharath 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩❤❤❤❤
You are comparing Indian locomotives with trainsets from other countries like ICE, TGV, Shinkansen, etc. These are EMU like trainsets with traction motors on multiple coaches (much like our own VB trainsets). High speed trainsets generally have aerodynamic design, sealed gangways, etc which are not possible in a locomotive hauled 20 coach train like we have here in India.
Check out some Deutsche Bahn locos: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deutsche_Bahn_AG_locomotives_and_railbuses
DB 101, DB 143 (DR 243) haul passengers. They don't look too much different from out own WAP-4, 5, 7 locos, and are definitely not very aerodynamic.
Some from the UK: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Rail_modern_traction_locomotive_classes
Class 67, 68 haul passengers (68 looks sleek and aerodynamic tbh)
Yha train h vo hi bdi bat h
Our Vande Bharat is stupendous ❤
150kh/hr? fr?..japan 605km/hr
@@rajlahadke1784so Indians should not celebrate any achievement ? Was japan ruled by any country ? Logically Their progress will be faster than us… no ?? Aim should be 650-700 but that milestone will only come if you keep your motivation and celebrate your each achievement towards it. If normal citizens of india except u & ur type are enjoying the new service & feeling happy + motivated for future - let them be it. Japan also took majority of tech from Germany - india will also move towards it. Don’t try to ride high horse by comparing blatantly & getting a high by killing happiness of others.
Exactly,speed and face design is Embarrassing😅😅😅
@@DeepakYadav-qw1om ♥️ atleast some people can see ig
@@rajlahadke1784dude there are no intermediate stations at short distances,
In india we have cities for every 50km or so,
So that much top speed is not needed for us
Then what is vande Bharat ?
Sleek nahi banana lekin atleast Colour Scheme toh aachi rakhein aur Saaf bhi rakhein .
VB Sleeper train election ke pahle launch hoga😅
THERE'S CONCEPT OF AERODYNAMIC IN INDIAN RAILWAYS DICTIONARY
What I dont understand, get the nose-cone manufactured by Tata and Mahindra... kya dikkat hai.. just look at how easily they have mastered the craft of making aero cars, similarly they can also design the loco / train noses ...already FRP nose of vandebharat is being manufactured by a polymer manufacturing company.. where is the issue?
Bhai ye Kya Baat Hui. Aap ne toh aaple ko kele se compare kardiya. The comparison of alcos with trainsets. Not correct isn't it. Have you observed the electric locomotives of IR and compared it with let's say Siemens vectron, or Russian made locos or Abb locos? They have similar front design. On the other hand if you have seen locos of GE or EMD used in USA, they have flat face. Why do you think, having so many resources and money why did they not switch to aerodynamic design?
to think about aerodynamics you need to have a considerable speed....
Explain in English or english subtitles plzzz
Why think aero if the max speed is 130kmph?
Best answer is track acha bano fir train bhago sleek kya keroge indian railway ko dekte tho bohot purane zamane ka lagta hai stations trains even track society ham log still a developing country agar modi ji ke bat sach hote hai aur indian 2047 tak development nation hogaya thk shayad ye sab change hoga
Vande Bharat to hai aerodynamic
Your Thumbnail reminds me of a scene from "The Dictator" movie. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Vande bharat 🚩🚩
Elon musk logic on the thumbnail tho 😂☠️
Thanks to substandard Indian railway engineers
What they are going to do? Do you have any idea how much money govt allocated railway for any R&D?
Considering the ammount of shortage of engineers and how they weren't replenished since 2019, it's these "substandard" engineers keep Indian railway running against all odds
Non-Aerodynamic loco be like :- jalva Hai hamara
*Indian railway drivers need excellent visibility of the railway track. Otherwise accidents will happen.*
Let’s at least have an upper middle incone economy before comparing with upper income wealthy developed economies…
Perfect example of baat ghumana English bolke
Hamari trains niche se khuli kyu hoti he? Jab ki dusre deso ki trains me Aesa nahi hota vo trains niche se coverd hoti he Aesa kyu?
Public - Make it pointy.
Scientists - Why?
Public - it doesn't look scary/speedy 👻 pointy is scary/speedy, sqare is not scary👻
Bhai pehle koi ise trainset ahr train engine me difference samajhao
I generally consider Indian locos as ugly. It's not abut aerodynamics, but railways haven't heard the word aesthetic before Vande bharat. It wouldn't cost much for IR to build locos in the same proportion of LHB coaches with aerodynaic properties. Even Vande bharat trains run on regualar speeds, so there's no point in investing some 300 cr rupees per trainset when they can build push pull trains with LHB coaches with Vande bharat features and beautiful looking locos on each end. Many European countries still doing it.
Aerodynamic locomotives or trainset looks like dolphin or shark face 😂. Jokes apart but we don't need them now until speed upgradation
bhai yeh Indian trains k bogies and locomotive niche aur side se covered kyun nahi hote aur overall design 1960-70s ka kyun hai 😒.
Agar bullet train aya tho sab kuch change ho jayga ye tho sure hai ye possible hai
2:46 mein woh train sutta maar raha hai
I think india should focus on freight train that this fancy thing
So do we abandoned passenger trains
By considering the speed of railways, it will take next 50 years to completely change to Bullet Train infrastructure. Meet you to 2073😂
But isn't WAP-5 and WAP-7 aerodynamic. I mean we did make it after transfer of technology from Switzerland.
Those locos look Aerodynamic.
Older electric locomotives and diesel locomotives are non aerodynamic
Frieght engines can't be arerodynamic
@@manmohanmishra5301they can be but no use as they are made for traction Power not speed
Indian Railways speed ke mamle me baki duniyaa se bahut piche he, Humko ab speed pe jyada dhyan dena chahiye, kya pata fir Modi jesa prime minister mele na mele
🛑🛑why don't we run ac local instead of metro so that we can carry more people at a time 🛑🛑
Thanks to the current government now we have new and modern rails 😊