I'd love to see a dedicated video explaining what classes counter each other with the current meta, and how to class swap based on both team comps. Maybe an example of a few games where you felt pressured to swap classes based on comp would help.
The sad thing is, that anet wont understand why certain classes are underperforming in order to buff them where its needed. Instead they will just patch random bullshit that makes the class even worse, or they will buff some things into enternity to make it broken... Just frustrating after more than 10 years :(
Here it is. S through F. Left to right. S- Catalyst, Tempest A- Guardian, Spellbreaker B- Berserker, Druid, Daredevil, Chronomancer, Holosmith, Scraper C- Virtuoso, Deadeye, Untamed, Soulbeast, Weaver, Vindicator, Herald, Reaper, Harbinger D- Specter, Willbender, Necromancer, Dragon Hunter, Scourge, Thief, Ranger, Warrior, Renegade, Revenant, Mirage, Mesmer, Bladesworn, Mechanist F- Firebrand, Engineer, Elementalist. Also... This list really depends on skill, I can change the outcome of a match on most of the classes that are anywhere from C-F tier. Know your class, and play what you can do best with.
Thank you! I’m legally blind and having the list written out helps since I use screen reader and the pictures in the video are tiny for me. Wish that guild wars 2 would enable some sort of screen reader in game because trying to zoom in to read skills and what they do is sometimes impossible
Thank you for this, I've been looking forward to it. Seeing it now it just seems to confirm what I've been feeling of late about PvP - leaving aside the usual (and persistent) population issues, there just seem to be much fewer specs that stand out as having a tangible impact in a match these days. Like everything is just average at best, barring standouts like Ele and Core Guard support.
I play alot of deadeye, daredevil is a hard-counter and anything that destroys projectiles or reflectiles like you said. You also need alot of open space to really take full advantage of your range with shadowstep
Hey Zentzu! Yes, daredevil has been good into deadeye historically but with the removal of stealth on steal and other changes to shadow arts, deadeye seems to be able to handle the matchup a lot better than it used to. Hope you liked the video! Thanks for the support :D
@@OleksandrProkhorovskyi I played deadeye only so just deadeye in solo queue for about 50 games and I actually used the most common DPS build for PvE with the m7 proc, I used shadowstep, haste, stealth heal and basilisk venom instead of power and meld and I only managed to just get into platinum, I only lost a 1v1 to one other deadeye who ran a counter to my build but got cyber bullied by every daredevil you open at 1200 range, they close the gap, you blink away from them 1200 range, they close the gap, you blink away again… throw a couple stealth jukes in there, and your rotation is up you spend so much time finding the perfect opportunity to kill the target, so many obstructions, reflects, blocks etc and then you have to kill the downed to reset your mark problem is in solo queue your team flames you for not decapping etc which is expected cause your a ‘thief’ but deadeye is built for teamfights not solo for many reasons but one is simply that thier daredevil is gonna bully you
In Metabattle, Condi Chronomancer Bunker is meta RN. But in this list, I think it could be at least A tier since the Chronobunker enables Guardian which makes them a great team.
I once heard someone say that for solo queue pvp the best class is one that is more of an "all-rounder" (was it you that said that? I can't remember). Just curious, but which classes are considered all-rounders, and are there builds that specifically tailor them to that all-rounder playstyle?
Hey Jason! Yes, I was the one who said that on stream. All-rounders tend to do quite well in ranked because you can be useful no matter where you are or what role you need to fill. Anything that has decent/good dueling potential, ability to contribute in a meaningful way in team fights, and be able to pick kills like a roamer and/or match/get decaps consistently would count as an all-rounder. Some examples would be power druid, fresh air catalyst, nade scrapper, and power vindicator. Hope that helps! Thanks for the support :)
Actually, support capabilities such as protective boons, AoE healing, condition clears, stun breaks, and rez power are all valuable assets to have in your arsenal. For example, the specs I provided all have access to at least one form of support on this list. While all-rounders may not excel in a specific category compared to a specialized spec, the ability to adapt and maximize the value of the tools they have available to them is what sets them apart. By utilizing all of their abilities effectively, an all-rounder can shine in any situation. I hope that provides some clarity :)
Should I play fresh air tempest in SPvP? I still don't have the weaver down yet and I've also never tried any support classes. If support is the only viable option that isn't weaver then I'll try and learn that.
Shadow I just came back to the game and subbed you as this is great stuff. I know the season is almost over, but would you please break down each spec for role? I don't need a tier, but if you can, just a list of all the specs in their respective roles if possible. Thank you!
Let's be honest. This all works if you play a duo with a very good partner. Solo is always a lottery, no matter how incredible a skill you have. Guild wars2 - True.
Looking at this Tierlist and other videos, it seems like a bad time to return to the game? Definitely considering I'd like to try the new builds from EoD and they all seem to underperform...
@@SirRichardGranger I see one thief occasionally but nobody on balance plays any amount to have an idea of what the meta is like and what needs fixing. They just ask a few select players in discord
I don’t think it’s that so many classes are underperforming as it’s a few classes cough ele are over performing. So do you buff 14+ specs or nerf 2? Cmon anet do the right thing.
@@MichaelS5400, agreed. Meta aside, you’d think they’d at least see the shortcomings of pvp in general. Matchmaking is horrendous, sometimes bugged (tourneys), etc… pvp needs a lot of care right now just outside of balancing classes. It’s rough.
I play bladesworn and in high gold. I feel like im doing fine. I like the build. I do 🤞 wish they would give it some more Stability without making it broken. But whatever 🙄
I really want your virtuoso build to pop off to counter the ele meta a bit. Projectile denial uptime is a bit too strong especially when you have 3 eles running focus on a team. If anet addresses that uptime many of these go up a tier or 2
I'm on low Tier plat and I consistently do as a Bladesworn like 25% of team damage and 45-60% of team healing (usually 2-3 or 4 top stats) (i mean shoutsworn). Is it that so underperforming?
What a time to be Main ele, i left the Game one month before eod release and i come back and now ele súper broken and ppl insults me for playing broken class xd
omg i have never seen a condi vindicator, can you show the build, i do not need a video, just see what type of build you run. i been wanting to play condi heral, since shortbow revenant is gutted now.
You overrate projectile reflect. It‘s strong obviously but it‘s not like people can spam it. There are windows of mere seconds where you can‘t apply pressure but in5v5‘s there is enough time to play around it.
You ever played against core guard+aurashare tempest? I mean ones that actually know how to play... Let's take only tempest: Overload earth, aftershock, overload air, earth focus 5, air focus 4, magnetic shield 3, mag shield 5, second mag shield 3, second mag shield 5, Unbound. Unless you play sth with unblockables, you are not putting a dent into this. But okay, okay, let's be the devil's advocate. Let's take just some of these skills. Real life scenarios are dynamic, right? Aftershock>overload earth>mag shield>someone picks mag shield>unbound This is 25 seconds of non stop magnetic aura generation ALONE. This does not take into account personal blocks, invulnerability, AOE projectile denial etc.
Great tier list! I’d put scrapper a little higher, biased cause I’ve been playing a lot, but I get rid of my nades and explosives trait line if I see a tempest. I trade this for blast gyro which gives you another stun break and tools- giving you stealth reveal and great condi cleanse. Although I don’t have the nade pressure- I can still do massive 12k-15k bursts. If I see a thief trying to get away I just chase them with my spin gyro and supper speed and the gyro alone is enough to drop any thief not running carrion or marauder. The size of the gyro aoe’s def should be nerfed 😅 Amazing content as always!
Any tier list needs to be taken with a grain of salt. First of all most people don't play every single class equally. And then there will be better classes at certain skill brackets. Just because a class is easy doesn't mean it's S tier, and a hard class is D tier. There are easy classes that are D tier, and really hard classes that most people think are bad, but are actually highly competitive. With that said I have played every class to at least the bottom end of platinum and generally end in the top 100 somewhere. Maybe you're in top 10 and the meta is different, or you could be lower who knows. But a couple things stand out to me in my own opinion. Willbender is not below average, so it should be C tier at the very least. Herald and reaper are very strong and at the very least B tier. And scrapper being on the same tier as daredevil and holosmith can't be right. There may be a lot of noobcrushers running around with meme 1 shot builds on scrappers, but it's not going to win you any tournament. It's at least C or probably D. Core warrior is pretty strong right now with taking strength/def/disc because of the stability and quickness uptime so it's probably C. And chrono is probably S or A tier, it just takes an exceptionally good player to reach those levels. Shortbow renegade got some buffs and may be more viable now, but it's hard to say as it's not one of my best classes. Untamed was not hurt so bad by that one nerf and is still one of the better power damage classes. And finally dragonhunter is potentially higher, but we will have to wait and see. I can see one coming to this conclusion when you select each class 1 by 1 and decide. But if you go through each row and compare them to each other and to the ones above and below you'll see some thing's just don't make sense when looked at from that angle.
I love how I have 5 classes with a certain spec that I somewhat know how to play and every single one of them is underperforming in PvP every time someone ranks them. I don't know if this game is just very badly balanced or if I am just super unlucky with my picks.
Really hope they nerf pvp tempest tbh. The tempest is one of the simplest specs to play. It literally requires minimal tap targetting and the auras are too op for pvp. In addition to that, the revive skill is also a joke. Tempest is literally a win condition and it seems that in soloq if your team lacks a tempest, it sometimes feels like you automatically lose
Damn, really thought Reaper would be something like B tier. Anyways, do you recommend Greatsword for reaper in sPvP? I've found for me that axe+focus and dagger+warhorn works the best.
Idk why ppl treat DH so badly... Most ppl probably don't know how to play around it's weaknesses. I do carry a lot of games playing DH and i have a lot of fun with it. Maybe if you're strictly talking about higher elos i guess.... But silver and gold it shines!
Skipped over condi soulbeast entirely - it's a really solid sidenoder with almost enough mobility to be considered a roamer. Not the best burst, so weaker in teamfights, unfortunately
Hey Leo! Personally, I would only completely avoid F tier. Even then, every spec (including the ones in F) are playable in plat if you're good at them. Make sure to listen to my explanations for each spec and tier! Hope that helps. Thanks for the support :)
The amount of classes in D tier shows just how bad the devs are at PvP balance. I believe last year it was exposed that the devs outright ignore feedback and don't bother to even play some of the classes.
Not the same people that are doing the balancing atm(anet recently changed their Balance team). Before throwing shade u might wanna double check ur Information.
The reality is that for most people though it's not that relevant. Why would they balance around higher tier games anymore, there is no real competitive scene so I can imagine they balance more around the average ranked game, which is gold. Below plat you can play pretty much any spec, and people regularly get into high ratings on random specs. So long as there are no ridiculous gamebreakingly OP easy specs, mid/low ranked PvP will be the same as ever xD
I was a plat player DD thief build. after playing DD thief its not what it used to be, you got classes that have same mobility as thief, do better burst and live and also be immune and ignore cc chain and also give them selves insane boons (chrono) thief I'd say is litreally bottom C. The nerfs gotten to the class too big and its not fun playing this class man. 0 fun. Hasn't been the same for years. and necromancer is dog sht too the other class I used to play. like man this game exists to nerf and ruin classes I enjoy. really sht PVP like lost ark. its either you make all broken or nerf all. they don't do either so thats why this games pvp wont be ever peak ever again. Sht balancing + you got tons more people afking in Ranked for the chest, trolls and the top 2 players are boosters. Guild wars 2 PVP is dead go pickup a new hobby lads.
oh nice the only class i was going to get into this game and buy expansions for is C tier(deadeye) now i can just not do that and play something else so thanks.
Hey Nasty! I would put deadeye above daredevil as long as you're not fighting against a bunch of focus eles. Hope that helps. Thanks for the support! :)
since skill precedes 9/10 skills can make most anything work ...if 1 class or 2 is meta hows matchmaking not doomed? none of these tier things r even remotely accurate ppl just don't explore possibilities to dominate with builds across all classes You essentially eliminated 2 classes of the 9 for reasons of NOT fun- as if the other 7 "only" makes for a good time in pvp. Cmon. you know hammer existed on core war, lol..? if its the weapon n not the spec say it😂 its 10x better on core than bersi anyway....if core guard gets A tier willbender and firebrand still has more utility and are better. curious where youre gonna put reaper n scrapper the 2 least utility profs. Dh i agree. core engi no1 plays right ..whats meta shouldn't be based off of proj reflect exclusively..since deadeye or even ranger does it better than harbinger.. in all scenarios im having trouble figuring out how ud even enjoy the game tbh. who plays under these parameters of bottlenecks ranked matchups? core necro just deletes minions or not.
You can play any of the specs in D or above pretty comfortably in plat if you're a good player. Keep in mind this video is from 2 pvp seasons ago when certain meta classes had permanent single target and/or AoE projectile denial/reflects. So, if you were playing any class that relied heavily on projectiles to deal damage, you wouldn't be able to hit anything except yourself on both the side nodes and team fights. Berserker gets stronger burst skills than core warrior does so your claim that hammer is better on core than berserker is inaccurate. Core guard is one of the top 2 support builds at the moment. Willbender still isn't self sufficient and firebrand is severely underpowered after the changers to tome skills. This tier list takes into account counter specs, matchups, and how often you would have come across those builds in the meta back in season 36. With that being said, this is a tier list for ranked PvP. Feel free to play whatever you have the most fun on.
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I'd love to see a dedicated video explaining what classes counter each other with the current meta, and how to class swap based on both team comps.
Maybe an example of a few games where you felt pressured to swap classes based on comp would help.
dude I just made a similar reddit post.
The sad thing is, that anet wont understand why certain classes are underperforming in order to buff them where its needed. Instead they will just patch random bullshit that makes the class even worse, or they will buff some things into enternity to make it broken...
Just frustrating after more than 10 years :(
Here it is. S through F. Left to right.
S- Catalyst, Tempest
A- Guardian, Spellbreaker
B- Berserker, Druid, Daredevil, Chronomancer, Holosmith, Scraper
C- Virtuoso, Deadeye, Untamed, Soulbeast, Weaver, Vindicator, Herald, Reaper, Harbinger
D- Specter, Willbender, Necromancer, Dragon Hunter, Scourge, Thief, Ranger, Warrior, Renegade, Revenant, Mirage, Mesmer, Bladesworn, Mechanist
F- Firebrand, Engineer, Elementalist.
Also... This list really depends on skill, I can change the outcome of a match on most of the classes that are anywhere from C-F tier. Know your class, and play what you can do best with.
Thank you! I’m legally blind and having the list written out helps since I use screen reader and the pictures in the video are tiny for me. Wish that guild wars 2 would enable some sort of screen reader in game because trying to zoom in to read skills and what they do is sometimes impossible
@@VisualRift glad I could help! 👍
Thank you for this, I've been looking forward to it. Seeing it now it just seems to confirm what I've been feeling of late about PvP - leaving aside the usual (and persistent) population issues, there just seem to be much fewer specs that stand out as having a tangible impact in a match these days. Like everything is just average at best, barring standouts like Ele and Core Guard support.
If everything was S tier it would feel the same way. When nothing feels over impactful, the game is well balany
Yeah, just means it's well balanced
I play alot of deadeye, daredevil is a hard-counter and anything that destroys projectiles or reflectiles like you said. You also need alot of open space to really take full advantage of your range with shadowstep
Hey Zentzu! Yes, daredevil has been good into deadeye historically but with the removal of stealth on steal and other changes to shadow arts, deadeye seems to be able to handle the matchup a lot better than it used to. Hope you liked the video! Thanks for the support :D
whats your rating btw?
@@OleksandrProkhorovskyi I played deadeye only so just deadeye in solo queue for about 50 games and I actually used the most common DPS build for PvE with the m7 proc, I used shadowstep, haste, stealth heal and basilisk venom instead of power and meld and I only managed to just get into platinum, I only lost a 1v1 to one other deadeye who ran a counter to my build but got cyber bullied by every daredevil
you open at 1200 range, they close the gap, you blink away from them 1200 range, they close the gap, you blink away again… throw a couple stealth jukes in there, and your rotation is up
you spend so much time finding the perfect opportunity to kill the target, so many obstructions, reflects, blocks etc and then you have to kill the downed to reset your mark
problem is in solo queue your team flames you for not decapping etc which is expected cause your a ‘thief’ but deadeye is built for teamfights not solo for many reasons but one is simply that thier daredevil is gonna bully you
Dragonhunter is actually an amazing noob stomper. It is probably C-D at higher ranks, but in silver it is crazy strong.
In Metabattle, Condi Chronomancer Bunker is meta RN. But in this list, I think it could be at least A tier since the Chronobunker enables Guardian which makes them a great team.
what is the best build for thief in arena¿ tellme plz
Hey Manel! D/P Daredevil and Deadeye are both good options depending on what you're facing. S/D is also viable at the moment.
I once heard someone say that for solo queue pvp the best class is one that is more of an "all-rounder" (was it you that said that? I can't remember). Just curious, but which classes are considered all-rounders, and are there builds that specifically tailor them to that all-rounder playstyle?
Hey Jason! Yes, I was the one who said that on stream. All-rounders tend to do quite well in ranked because you can be useful no matter where you are or what role you need to fill. Anything that has decent/good dueling potential, ability to contribute in a meaningful way in team fights, and be able to pick kills like a roamer and/or match/get decaps consistently would count as an all-rounder. Some examples would be power druid, fresh air catalyst, nade scrapper, and power vindicator.
Hope that helps! Thanks for the support :)
@@Shadowfall_TV Ahh so not necessarily also contributing to support/healing. That's where I got confused.
Basically a DPS/Roamer/Duelist package!
@@Shadowfall_TV this really helps especially that it was an hour ago and im recently looking to get back in to gw2 pvp
@@Shadowfall_TV like, still replying to comments on a 1 month old video, thanks bro
Actually, support capabilities such as protective boons, AoE healing, condition clears, stun breaks, and rez power are all valuable assets to have in your arsenal. For example, the specs I provided all have access to at least one form of support on this list.
While all-rounders may not excel in a specific category compared to a specialized spec, the ability to adapt and maximize the value of the tools they have available to them is what sets them apart. By utilizing all of their abilities effectively, an all-rounder can shine in any situation.
I hope that provides some clarity :)
Should I play fresh air tempest in SPvP? I still don't have the weaver down yet and I've also never tried any support classes. If support is the only viable option that isn't weaver then I'll try and learn that.
Glad to have you back. Thanks again.
Shadow I just came back to the game and subbed you as this is great stuff. I know the season is almost over, but would you please break down each spec for role? I don't need a tier, but if you can, just a list of all the specs in their respective roles if possible. Thank you!
Any insight on what spec would be the easiest to play when starting in pvp?
He just dropped a video with that info.
I love that my build is in F and it Fucks up everything.
Apparently mine is in D even though I slay all game. Almost like the people who make this don't know shit about half the classes.
Let's be honest. This all works if you play a duo with a very good partner. Solo is always a lottery, no matter how incredible a skill you have. Guild wars2 - True.
That's how it feels being a solo queue player.
Looking at this Tierlist and other videos, it seems like a bad time to return to the game? Definitely considering I'd like to try the new builds from EoD and they all seem to underperform...
Me, a new player who decides to main guardian, who then likes the firebrand elite spec the most and invest all his time and effort into learn it: ._.
Condi vindi build? Would love to try this😮❤
HAHA awesome. I remembering asking if your other tier list was still relevant in your live chat. "Merc_ghoul"
So nothing really changed from last season. Welp time to get cc'd to death by spell breakers and sent back to respawn in .5 seconds by catalysts
Lets go Blinside!!!!
ive had my scrapper 1-2 shot by untamed hammer from stealth..scrapper on nades isnt scrapper .. its just an engi on grenades
is condi mirage not a thing anymore? sadge
Sweet, woke up to a new Blindside video
Good imfo,. I shudder to think of the eventual gutting of Cata :(
Good video.
I'd love to see some guides on how to play these.
so sad so much stuff is just under performing
Devs don’t care about pvp
@@MichaelS5400 agreed. It’s weird because I sometimes see a Dev or two playing and in the Mists area :/
@@SirRichardGranger I see one thief occasionally but nobody on balance plays any amount to have an idea of what the meta is like and what needs fixing. They just ask a few select players in discord
I don’t think it’s that so many classes are underperforming as it’s a few classes cough ele are over performing. So do you buff 14+ specs or nerf 2? Cmon anet do the right thing.
@@MichaelS5400, agreed. Meta aside, you’d think they’d at least see the shortcomings of pvp in general. Matchmaking is horrendous, sometimes bugged (tourneys), etc… pvp needs a lot of care right now just outside of balancing classes. It’s rough.
I play bladesworn and in high gold. I feel like im doing fine. I like the build. I do 🤞 wish they would give it some more Stability without making it broken. But whatever 🙄
I really want your virtuoso build to pop off to counter the ele meta a bit. Projectile denial uptime is a bit too strong especially when you have 3 eles running focus on a team. If anet addresses that uptime many of these go up a tier or 2
Willbender not doing well??
how about WvW?
I'm on low Tier plat and I consistently do as a Bladesworn like 25% of team damage and 45-60% of team healing (usually 2-3 or 4 top stats) (i mean shoutsworn). Is it that so underperforming?
What a time to be Main ele, i left the Game one month before eod release and i come back and now ele súper broken and ppl insults me for playing broken class xd
is tempest doing damage or support?
Yes.
Totally agre with this one
omg i have never seen a condi vindicator, can you show the build, i do not need a video, just see what type of build you run. i been wanting to play condi heral, since shortbow revenant is gutted now.
I have a better one, condi support vindi ^^, minimum A tier
You overrate projectile reflect.
It‘s strong obviously but it‘s not like people can spam it.
There are windows of mere seconds where you can‘t apply pressure but in5v5‘s there is enough time to play around it.
You ever played against core guard+aurashare tempest? I mean ones that actually know how to play...
Let's take only tempest:
Overload earth, aftershock, overload air, earth focus 5, air focus 4, magnetic shield 3, mag shield 5, second mag shield 3, second mag shield 5, Unbound.
Unless you play sth with unblockables, you are not putting a dent into this.
But okay, okay, let's be the devil's advocate. Let's take just some of these skills. Real life scenarios are dynamic, right?
Aftershock>overload earth>mag shield>someone picks mag shield>unbound
This is 25 seconds of non stop magnetic aura generation ALONE. This does not take into account personal blocks, invulnerability, AOE projectile denial etc.
Great tier list! I’d put scrapper a little higher, biased cause I’ve been playing a lot, but I get rid of my nades and explosives trait line if I see a tempest. I trade this for blast gyro which gives you another stun break and tools- giving you stealth reveal and great condi cleanse. Although I don’t have the nade pressure- I can still do massive 12k-15k bursts. If I see a thief trying to get away I just chase them with my spin gyro and supper speed and the gyro alone is enough to drop any thief not running carrion or marauder. The size of the gyro aoe’s def should be nerfed 😅
Amazing content as always!
it this list still viable?
Any tier list needs to be taken with a grain of salt. First of all most people don't play every single class equally. And then there will be better classes at certain skill brackets. Just because a class is easy doesn't mean it's S tier, and a hard class is D tier. There are easy classes that are D tier, and really hard classes that most people think are bad, but are actually highly competitive.
With that said I have played every class to at least the bottom end of platinum and generally end in the top 100 somewhere. Maybe you're in top 10 and the meta is different, or you could be lower who knows. But a couple things stand out to me in my own opinion. Willbender is not below average, so it should be C tier at the very least. Herald and reaper are very strong and at the very least B tier. And scrapper being on the same tier as daredevil and holosmith can't be right. There may be a lot of noobcrushers running around with meme 1 shot builds on scrappers, but it's not going to win you any tournament. It's at least C or probably D. Core warrior is pretty strong right now with taking strength/def/disc because of the stability and quickness uptime so it's probably C. And chrono is probably S or A tier, it just takes an exceptionally good player to reach those levels. Shortbow renegade got some buffs and may be more viable now, but it's hard to say as it's not one of my best classes. Untamed was not hurt so bad by that one nerf and is still one of the better power damage classes. And finally dragonhunter is potentially higher, but we will have to wait and see.
I can see one coming to this conclusion when you select each class 1 by 1 and decide. But if you go through each row and compare them to each other and to the ones above and below you'll see some thing's just don't make sense when looked at from that angle.
I love how I have 5 classes with a certain spec that I somewhat know how to play and every single one of them is underperforming in PvP every time someone ranks them.
I don't know if this game is just very badly balanced or if I am just super unlucky with my picks.
Really hope they nerf pvp tempest tbh. The tempest is one of the simplest specs to play. It literally requires minimal tap targetting and the auras are too op for pvp. In addition to that, the revive skill is also a joke. Tempest is literally a win condition and it seems that in soloq if your team lacks a tempest, it sometimes feels like you automatically lose
Please it's nothing compared to spell breaker. It's spear attack can burst, pulls and absurd defense
Damn, really thought Reaper would be something like B tier. Anyways, do you recommend Greatsword for reaper in sPvP? I've found for me that axe+focus and dagger+warhorn works the best.
Definitely not greatsword, it’s too slow at the moment :/
@@SirRichardGranger ok thanks for the input
I like great sword...why play reaper if you don't use great sword...but it's hard to play because how slow it is...
actually I changed my mind a bit - staff + axe/focus works the best for me now. Very good contribution in teamfights.
Idk why ppl treat DH so badly... Most ppl probably don't know how to play around it's weaknesses. I do carry a lot of games playing DH and i have a lot of fun with it. Maybe if you're strictly talking about higher elos i guess.... But silver and gold it shines!
Skipped over condi soulbeast entirely - it's a really solid sidenoder with almost enough mobility to be considered a roamer. Not the best burst, so weaker in teamfights, unfortunately
bruh so many classes in D and C Tier!!! how the fuck is this supposed to be a good pvp game
I so disagree with this list but thanks for the trouble
I guess u never played elementalist.
So basically, 90% of the options aren't very good. 😢
Hey Leo! Personally, I would only completely avoid F tier. Even then, every spec (including the ones in F) are playable in plat if you're good at them. Make sure to listen to my explanations for each spec and tier!
Hope that helps. Thanks for the support :)
@Shadowfall Yes, I decided to try Scrapper. I'll keep watching your channel to stay up to date. 1st week playing GW2.
Daredevil better than soulbeast? I stopped watch here lmao
The amount of classes in D tier shows just how bad the devs are at PvP balance. I believe last year it was exposed that the devs outright ignore feedback and don't bother to even play some of the classes.
Not the same people that are doing the balancing atm(anet recently changed their Balance team). Before throwing shade u might wanna double check ur Information.
The reality is that for most people though it's not that relevant. Why would they balance around higher tier games anymore, there is no real competitive scene so I can imagine they balance more around the average ranked game, which is gold. Below plat you can play pretty much any spec, and people regularly get into high ratings on random specs.
So long as there are no ridiculous gamebreakingly OP easy specs, mid/low ranked PvP will be the same as ever xD
I was a plat player DD thief build. after playing DD thief its not what it used to be, you got classes that have same mobility as thief, do better burst and live and also be immune and ignore cc chain and also give them selves insane boons (chrono) thief I'd say is litreally bottom C. The nerfs gotten to the class too big and its not fun playing this class man. 0 fun. Hasn't been the same for years. and necromancer is dog sht too the other class I used to play. like man this game exists to nerf and ruin classes I enjoy. really sht PVP like lost ark. its either you make all broken or nerf all. they don't do either so thats why this games pvp wont be ever peak ever again. Sht balancing + you got tons more people afking in Ranked for the chest, trolls and the top 2 players are boosters. Guild wars 2 PVP is dead go pickup a new hobby lads.
oh nice the only class i was going to get into this game and buy expansions for is C tier(deadeye) now i can just not do that and play something else so thanks.
Hey Nasty! I would put deadeye above daredevil as long as you're not fighting against a bunch of focus eles. Hope that helps. Thanks for the support! :)
@@Shadowfall_TV you said ele is pretty much meta right so I'd always be fighting them lol
There's a lot more to GW2 than just PVP. Also being C tier doesn't mean much other than that you'll have to play a bit smarter and better
since skill precedes 9/10 skills can make most anything work ...if 1 class or 2 is meta hows matchmaking not doomed?
none of these tier things r even remotely accurate ppl just don't explore possibilities to dominate with builds across all classes
You essentially eliminated 2 classes of the 9 for reasons of NOT fun- as if the other 7 "only" makes for a good time in pvp. Cmon. you know hammer existed on core war, lol..? if its the weapon n not the spec say it😂 its 10x better on core than bersi anyway....if core guard gets A tier willbender and firebrand still has more utility and are better. curious where youre gonna put reaper n scrapper the 2 least utility profs. Dh i agree. core engi no1 plays right ..whats meta shouldn't be based off of proj reflect exclusively..since deadeye or even ranger does it better than harbinger.. in all scenarios im having trouble figuring out how ud even enjoy the game tbh. who plays under these parameters of bottlenecks ranked matchups? core necro just deletes minions or not.
You can play any of the specs in D or above pretty comfortably in plat if you're a good player. Keep in mind this video is from 2 pvp seasons ago when certain meta classes had permanent single target and/or AoE projectile denial/reflects. So, if you were playing any class that relied heavily on projectiles to deal damage, you wouldn't be able to hit anything except yourself on both the side nodes and team fights.
Berserker gets stronger burst skills than core warrior does so your claim that hammer is better on core than berserker is inaccurate. Core guard is one of the top 2 support builds at the moment. Willbender still isn't self sufficient and firebrand is severely underpowered after the changers to tome skills.
This tier list takes into account counter specs, matchups, and how often you would have come across those builds in the meta back in season 36. With that being said, this is a tier list for ranked PvP. Feel free to play whatever you have the most fun on.
Bruh, do you even play the game? What is this list.